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02-15-25 18:38 #14130
Posts: 23Originally Posted by CCRider1008 [View Original Post]
2. When I contacted Hinata via LINE, I just asked her if she accepts foreigners and she said yes. I was able to book everything directly through her.
3. So I did a lot of research on this. My understanding is that the fee on the site is not the total fee, that's just what they call the "bathing fee". You can think of it as an entrance fee. The total fee includes the bathing fee and extras and probably a foreigner fee. There are posts about this on other review sites that break down the fees but I won't link to them because I'm not sure if that's allowed here. If someone can confirm that it's fine to link, I'll let you know where to look. And yes, I knew the price before booking. Hinata told me the total price before I confirmed.
4. Cordon Bleu and why-shirts. I'm not saying they're not great, just saying Etoile was the best. And someone may prefer the girls at the other locations. I'll post reviews of the other two soon.
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02-15-25 12:22 #14129
Posts: 6834Sexual Expressions
Really enjoy the insights by Traveler X and the other bros in this thread.
As I met and dated girls from different cultures, I found remarkable differences in their attitudes in and out of bed, to me driven primarily by exposure to religion beliefs in early life and culture in adult life. To qualify, I am really not a big researcher in religious beliefs and practices.
I had a couple ST and LT dates with Muslim girls from Jakarta, Java, Sumatra, Bali, KL and Southern Thailand. Girls from Muslim background are submissive to men, probably the most submissive in my experiences. They don't take initiatives in starting relationships, conversation, touching, fights or sex, just quietly make themselves available for any sexual acts without objection or resistance, absorb the pleasures without showing any expressions, seem shameful to enjoy sex. These girls were the meekest of the meeks hehe.
The Kazackh girl I met recently in Bangkok is from a predominantly Muslim country, but wore a small gold cross, so she's a minority Christian. She showed lots of loving and sexy expressions in anticipation of sex as I was embracing her tight spinner body, kissing her mouth, squeezing her exquisite boobs, groping her moist criotch. Her body was sensitive and aroused to the touches, vagina flowing wet at the first touch. She made a lot of sexy noise as I tried hard to penetrate her tight channel, reached up to kiss my mouth, squeezed me hard, then wailed out, repeatedly called out OMG loudly, buckingher hip as we fully engaged in deep motion. Sex with her was the most loving and satisfying.
Girls from Christian countries tend to be more open about their thoughts and feelings, openly let you know them without holding back. Viet girls are primarily atheists but with cultural influences from France, so they are open, loud and assertive. US girls would let you know what they like and dislike, fight viciously and show ugly emotions, but are more flexible and adaptable in attitudes. They could snuggle up to you after the ugly fights and say they are sorry in the sweetest ways. Just don't count on all US girls holding no grudges as a few ISG bros had the ugliest break ups.
Christian girls in the Philippines are meek but sweet and open about sex, quiet by responsive to pleasures. I popped 7 times with 5 girls in Manila the first day I arrived in Manila. A student in Manila said sex with me was so good, tried to revive my dick couple times at night to have sex, all BB. Christian girls in Argentina and Uruguay and are fun, helpful, open, honest and spontaneous. Girls in Paraguay are hardened and cynical. Girls in atheist China are not shy to tell you their feelings and when, where, how, how often they want sex.
But both Japanese girls I bagged in Tokyo this time also wore small crosses, and they were quiet and passive in bed, like they were still ruled by the Shinto warlords. So culture may have more influences than religions over sexual expressions. Like Traveler X posted, normal Japanese girls and women I met on in Japan and US are nice, approachable to foreigners, seem open, honest and very helpful without any prejudice. They walk the streets hands in hands with their friends, talk, smile in the most innocent ways. Perhaps non-pro Japanese girls would be far more responsive and expressive in sexual relationships?
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02-15-25 12:19 #14128
Posts: 6834Japan is bad for mongers
Japan is very expensive for paid sex.
Girls are not good-looking, responsive or expressive in bed. They were just laying there moaning. I like full kissing, got so aroused, in a hurry tp penetrate, forgot about the chitsu option.
I would go to Japan for food and sight-seeing, but not for sex.
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02-15-25 12:14 #14127
Posts: 6834She knew I wanted to fuck, doing CBJ to get me hard.
Looked like she was well rehearsed in squeezing money out of guys.
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02-15-25 12:12 #14126
Posts: 6834Extra with Nono
1. After foreplay, I pinned her down and penetrated her bare, half way in. She said vaginal sex costs 40 K why extra. I said 20 K, she agreed. I continued penetrating her. Near the end she did not want me to pop inside her so she brought out a pink condom, tried to put it on, but it was way too small for me. Finally she got it on, I continued to fuck her and popped in the condom.
2. I gave her the extra 20 K why, total 50 K why, at the end before we headed out to dinner.
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02-15-25 09:53 #14125
Posts: 39Originally Posted by BeWilder [View Original Post]
I actually still regularly see a girl who used to work there who then turned into an independent escort, who now no longer takes new clients. I might ask her more about the history one day.
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02-15-25 07:08 #14124
Posts: 1First Time Japan
Hello,
I see a lot of professionalism in this forum and I would appreciate for all your advice.
For the first and last (probably) time ever, I could get a vacation from my family and 1 guy traveling to Tokyo.
My main goal is traveling during days and mongering at nights.
I thought Shibuya area would be good enough, but when I go through the threads, I see the good locations are far from the city.
Any recommendations to the location for me to stay to meet all the desires?
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02-14-25 22:40 #14123
Posts: 6834Really enjoy the insights by Traveler X and the other bros in this thread.
As I met and dated girls from different cultures, I found remarkable differences in their attitudes in and out of bed, to me driven primarily by exposure to religion beliefs in early life and culture in adult life. To qualify, I am really not a big researcher in religious beliefs and practices.
I had a couple ST and LT dates with Muslim girls from Jakarta, Java, Sumatra, Bali, KL and Southern Thailand. Girls from Muslim background are submissive to men, probably the most submissive in my experiences. They don't take initiatives in starting relationships, conversation, touching, fights or sex, just quietly make themselves available for any sexual acts without objection or resistance, absorb the pleasures without showing any expressions, seem shameful to enjoy sex. These girls were the meekest of the meeks hehe.
The Kazackh girl I met recently in Bangkok is from a predominantly Muslim country, but wore a small gold cross, so she's a minority Christian. She showed lots of loving and sexy expressions in anticipation of sex as I was embracing her tight spinner body, kissing her mouth, squeezing her exquisite boobs, groping her moist criotch. Her body was sensitive and aroused to the touches, vagina flowing wet at the first touch. She made a lot of sexy noise as I tried hard to penetrate her tight channel, reached up to kiss my mouth, squeezed me hard, then wailed out, repeatedly called out OMG loudly, buckingher hip as we fully engaged in deep motion. Sex with her was the most loving and satisfying.
Girls from Christian countries tend to be more open about their thoughts and feelings, openly let you know them without holding back. Viet girls are primarily atheists but with cultural influences from France, so they are open, loud and assertive. US girls would let you know what they like and dislike, fight viciously and show ugly emotions, but are more flexible and adaptable in attitudes. They could snuggle up to you after the ugly fights and say they are sorry in the sweetest ways. Just don't count on all US girls holding no grudges as a few ISG bros had the ugliest break ups.
Christian girls in the Philippines are meek but sweet and open about sex, quiet by responsive to pleasures. I popped 7 times with 5 girls in Manila the first day I arrived in Manila. A student in Manila said sex with me was so good, tried to revive my dick couple times at night to have sex, all BB. Christian girls in Argentina and Uruguay and are fun, helpful, open, honest and spontaneous. Girls in Paraguay are hardened and cynical. Girls in atheist China are not shy to tell you their feelings and when, where, how, how often they want sex.
But both Japanese girls I bagged in Tokyo this time also wore small crosses, and they were quiet and passive in bed, like they were still ruled by the Shinto warlords. So culture may have more influences than religions over sexual expressions. Like Traveler X posted, normal Japanese girls and women I met on in Japan and US are nice, approachable to foreigners, seem open, honest and very helpful without any prejudice. They walk the streets hands in hands with their friends, talk, smile in the most innocent ways. Perhaps non-pro Japanese girls would be far more responsive and expressive in sexual relationships?
Originally Posted by TravelerX [View Original Post]
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02-14-25 20:20 #14122
Posts: 179Originally Posted by CaptainSolo [View Original Post]
You came from Bangkok to Japan. Same for me in March. I hesitate asking but did Japan live up to your expectation from monger perspective? I'm going to Japan mostly as tourist and have been to thailand 5 times now so I'm curious.
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02-14-25 20:13 #14121
Posts: 179Originally Posted by CaptainSolo [View Original Post]
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02-14-25 19:57 #14120
Posts: 179Originally Posted by CaptainSolo [View Original Post]
1. " I got so horny to penetrate her, completely forgot the 3 K Yen BBBJ option. She was so tight, took a lot of lube and work. Had a long, energetic session, popped big. ".
This implies you pussy fucked her. Correct?
2. " Gave her 20 K yens tip for extras, total $450 ".
So further implies FS chitsu fucking cost you another $200. Accurate? And was this BB or covered and was that your choice or her insistance?
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02-14-25 19:33 #14119
Posts: 179Originally Posted by AllTaken123 [View Original Post]
1. you said you booked through her line account. I went to their website and it did not show girls LINE accounts. How did you do that? It has some booking system that I couldn't access here in the USA when I hit the link so I'm curious.
2. etoile does not say it's foreigner friendly on website. How did you determine it was?
3. website says 33,000 yen for 120 minutes. You said 80,000 yen for 120 minutes. That's a pretty hefty foreigner tax if that's the differential. Did you know the price before booking?
4. what were the other 2 not so great soapies?
Thanks.
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02-14-25 19:09 #14118
Posts: 23Luxe Oppai Club Experience
Some background: I already posted one report about my experience at a high-end Soapland (Etoile) below. As mentioned in the report, I went to two other soaplands (Y-shirts and Cordon Blue) which I'll get to posting reviews of soon. What I didn't mention is that I went all out during this trip as this was my retirement-from-mongering trip. I saw four girls from Tokyo Hentai Club (one threesome) and three girls from Tokyo Amateur Escorts (one threesome) and I'll get around to posting those reports as well. This is my report on my experience at Luxe.
I preemptively thanked Traveler X prior to my trip and I experienced Luxe exactly as he outlined multiple times in previous posts. I went straight to the manzoku on a Thursday night, around 9 PM. I told the staff there that I'm a foreigner that doesn't speak much Japanese but that I'm interested in visiting an oppai club. They showed me a couple of options but I already knew Luxe was the one I wanted to visit. They told me they can get me in for 8,000 yen and I agreed. The staff called the shop to confirm, then escorted me to Luxe, which is just a few steps from the manzoku.
We went up the elevator and the "reception" is just outside of the elevator as you get off. I paid my entrance fee and the staff explained the system to me in English. The manzoku escort thanked me for using their service and left. I was then given mouthwash to rinse my mouth right there on the spot. I thought I would at least be able to use the restroom and rinse in privacy but no, they watched me as I rinsed. I walked in and my opinion is that the place looks like a nice lounge with some dark lighting. It's not too big and you certainly see other people sitting around doing their thing. I saw a few foreigners but it certainly wasn't crowded as I counted maybe 5-6 other customers. The next closest customer to me was probably 7 ft away. As I was being escorted to my table, I noticed the staff already had a girl waiting for me. But I wanted to use the restroom first so they had the girl wait as they escorted me to the restroom. The only reason I bring this up is because I'm positive that they counted my restroom use against my 10 minutes with the first girl. I only got about 7 minutes with the first girl and that's what I attribute the missing 3 minutes to.
I sat down with the girl and asked the staff for a beer. Draft beer in Japan hits different, it was delicious. The girl's face was natural but wasn't my style but she had a nice, natural body which I'm a fan of. Probably about 165 cm and a natural be cup. I'd rate her face a 6 and her body a 9. Her English wasn't great and we used Google Translate most of the time. But she had a really friendly attitude which immediately makes me rank her higher. I told her it's my first time at Luxe and she asked if she can sit on me and initiated LFKs while taking her top down. She wanted to get into it but I honestly wasn't ready. I had just sat down and I'm more of a 'let's flirt and build a little chemistry first' kind of person. She noticed I was hesitant and asked me if I don't like to kiss. I just told her it's my first time so I'm a little nervous and I'd prefer to chat with her a little more. I asked her if she wanted a drink and she seemed surprised but happy and asked, "Really? Is that okay?" Of course it is. We continued to chat and she made sure to grab my hand and put them on her oppais as we talked. She said she was in college and I believed her and we had a good chat. I started to get more comfortable and we started making out again but of course, time had run out (early). I was surprised at how quickly it ended. She asked if I wanted her to stay and I was very tempted to just keep her but curiosity got the better of me. She wrote her name on a card and asked me to ask for her later or next time.
They brought the second girl in less than 5 minutes and I was initially quite happy as she was pretty hot. I'd rate her face an 8 and her body a 9. But her English was worse than the first girl's and this girl didn't seem that interested in being there. We chatted a bit using Translate but it was pretty dull. She just sat there not really smiling and never initiated anything which made me feel like she relies solely on her looks. I didn't offer to buy her a drink and she never asked. Time ended and off she went. If her service was anywhere close to the first girl, I would have kept her and maybe even extended.
Again, not 5 minutes went by before they brought me the third girl. Unfortunately, she was the least attractive of the three. I'd rate her face a 4 and her body a 7. But her English was excellent, almost fluent, and she was obviously the best conversationalist of the three. I'm a sucker for smart girls and she said she was getting her masters in sociology and planned to pursue a phD and I believed her. I was actually shocked at how good her English was as she used some difficult words you wouldn't hear from non-native speakers (or even native speakers). She asked if she could hop on but instead of taking her shirt down, she loosened it and grabbed my hands and put them up her shirt. I didn't mind as I still wasn't that physically attracted to her. I offered to buy her a drink and she was happy to accept. We continued to chat and I complimented her English and she complimented me in various ways as I'm sure they all do. She gave me her Line and told me I could request her directly next time. I genuinely enjoyed our conversation until time was up.
The staff came over and asked if I wanted to stay longer and presented me with some options. It was tempting. I felt like time flew by and I was having fun and enjoying my beers. But I had already been mongering heavily during this trip so wasn't too tempted by all the oppais. I also realized that costs add up quickly the longer you stay so decided to leave. They charged me 5,000 yen for the two drinks I bought for the girls, bringing the total to 13,000 yen. I don't know why the drinks weren't 6,000 as advertised. They also gave me a discount coupon for 7,000 yen entrance fee. This is a steal. It was well worth the price of admission as I had fun and enjoyed the beers.
Final note. I looked around carefully to just see the other options. I found most of the girls to be like my first girl. Average face but nice figures. My second girl was definitely one of the hottest there and rare. I actually thought I would go back with my coupon and just spend my entire time with the first girl but I just didn't have the bandwidth with all my other mongerings during this trip.
Thanks again to Traveler X for this nugget. Like I said, everything went exactly as he outlined, it was so easy and fun.
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02-13-25 20:04 #14117
Posts: 189Originally Posted by AllTaken123 [View Original Post]
Obviously, most guys are on a tight budget and that's the only reason I recommend Kira Kira for beginners to "try out". Whereas if you have a high budget and "just one trip" then you might go the AllTaken route and try a bunch of high end places. Note AllTaken tried three soaplands, as we know the odds of a great experience rises that way.
Originally Posted by Rick Rock [View Original Post]
Another often mentioned foreigner friendly soapland is in Kawasaki, GFE Soapland.
https://gfe-japan.net/
One reason I recommended Kira Kira in Yokohama "for beginners" is that it is very budget friendly at 31K for 70 minutes ($202 currently). The girls are decent looking, not amazing, but "good enough". Note how much cheaper it is, basically it is possible for a really hot girl to work at Kira Kira but after a few months she's going to ask a higher end shop to hire her. One drawback of Kira Kira is it's in Yokohama, but it is cheap to get their by train. I want to point out that everybodys' legs get tired in Japan, so it is not a big loss to take a train, look out the window, or play a game. It's resting your legs and you get to check out Yokohama.
Since Kira Kira is good value, the money at risk is low to try soaplands. 9 out of 10 reports so on this thread so far have been positive, there's no guarantee. But assuming you do have a good time, you can decide whether or not you want to try the more expensive soaplands or DH instead. I feel once you have experienced good service in Japan at any shop, your standards will rise to where you can easily see through a GPS girl and "know your worth". Some DH girl or streetwalker could be in your room demanding a high tip but you will just remember back to your soapland experience and be "nah" and go there later.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2963459 Kira Kira mega guide (Yokohama)
https://kirakira.eroticguide.tokyo/ Kira Kira website for foreigners
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FPZJmDsaAjvraKE6A Google Maps link to find it on foot from either station
Currency Exchange
https://www.narita-airport.jp/en/ser...ange/currency/
https://tokyo-haneda.com/en/service/.../exchange.html
I've gone Japan many times and what I do to get the best rate is I withdraw cash in the US in 100s, say $3K, and then at Narita or Haneda Airport use the currency exchange there. I used to always use Mizuho but online it says they've closed. For whatever reason, airport exchanges within Japan give good rates unlike airports in other countries. If the exchange rate online was 152 yen / USD, they'd post 149 / 155 with no extra fees (I used a calculator after each time to confirm). So their margin of profit was only 2%. I can't vouch for every exchange being this good, but all the ones at the international airport were. At the Mizuho exchange I used, there was a max limit per person working out to about $2200 (the limit is set in Yen so the dollar limit varies). However it is per-person per-day so if you are with a friend they can do another $2200.
Many people will instead find 711 ATMs to be more convenient. Every 711 I went to had such an ATM and they are all international bank card friendly (most Japan ATMs are NOT). At the airport there will also be international card friendly ATMs, you can just ask the cute ladies at the information booth where to find them. It's a common request. Whereas in the wild, only 5% of ATMs in Japan will your bank ATM card. Japan ATMs are scary, they will spit out $6K worth of cash if you ask them. It is generally a safe country. But luckily, my own bank caps the 24hour withdrawl at $500, whatever that is in yen. So you can see why I bring $3K to "get me started". Worst case if you feel the airport exchange is not a good rate you can keep the USD as reserve for emergency and bring it back home. It is easy enough to walk into your bank and ask for $3K in 100s they are a bank they can do it.
It goes without saying there are terrible exchange rates at hotels and automated machines elsewhere. The airport rates are good due to intense competition, I hope that is still the case but it's been this way a long time.
The Fountain of Youth
All of us are looking for a good time, we might be looking for something different but there's a lot of overlap. I call this hobby the Fountain of Youth, you can tell people about it but they won't believe half of it. What you can do is point directions so they can taste it themselves. Here is one set of instructions for a friend:
Every girl is different, some will go out with you for a bite while others won't for various reasons. Some will give LINE, others won't.
One of the nice things about Japanese girls is with some of them, you can have genuine interaction with. They just need some money at this time in their life. Some girls don't know how long they'll do this, if it's just weeks or months. So they aren't looking for OTC like another girl might be thinking.
One reason I've dated a few special working girls is I want to be a happy memory for them and to have the same. It is a dead end if you try anything more since the illusion will shatter at some point.
It is certainly nice to eat at good places with a woman you are banging. Bang before dating is always the best way, if you date and then try to bang it's easy to be disappointed. My advice is to only date a girl you think is a good person. Don't chase after a girl just because she looks good. When following this advice, I have never been burned. I only chose a few girls in my life. We said our goodbyes with a smile knowing it was the last time, and it is a forever memory.
I always warn not to date OTC, but I do think in 1% to 3% of the case a girl is safe and special. And when I say safety, I mean emotionally stable. A good girl will not guilt you or drain you, and in those rare 3% of cases she is happy to be with you. You grow together. I actually ask girls out "for free" for a meal or sightseeing, but then at the very end I give them extra money anyways. Usually, that is the last time I ever see them.
Shops are just covering for themselves with contracts, they know most of their girls bang. It is exactly like a strip club where the manager reminds girls there's no banging in the VIP room then leaves to go far away. Everything is set up to support it.
Every girl will say it's secret or against the rules. Most do it with a straight face, bless their hearts.
With Deliver Health the girl tries not to look too flashy and might be discreet without make up, yet guys still look lol. Most salarymen in Japan cannot afford these girls. Some only see a girl once a year after bonus.
No matter how a girl feels about you, in Japan they are shy about kissing in public. But Japanese women are different in bed. It is possible to learn skills and experience that will help you with civilian women in later.
Every country has what it's good at. In Japan, we order sushi and it is much cheaper and much better.
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02-13-25 00:38 #14116
Posts: 1331Tokyo is starting to warm up like spring already. It got me in the mood for two things: seeing the sakura and going back to a soapland before it gets hot. I love onsen and soapland all year round. There is something special about getting the hot water when it's a little chilly outside though.
Casanova has become maybe my favorite soapland because it's just so easy. Definitely the easiest one in Yoshiwara for foreigners. You don't need Japanese, local phone number, or anything really. As long as you act normal they will let you in and connect you with a hot younger chick.
I had Moe Kashiwagi this time. For me, she is smoking hot. Great hair, great eyes, and most importantly: great holes.
https://casanova-soapland.com/moe-kashiwagi/
Moe's a beautiful woman with a hot body and a lot of stamina. I don't cum so easy any more, which is actually good when you're going to a soapland. I got to really enjoy the mat play, washing, and service. She rode me cowgirl for ages on the mat. My hands held her slippery butt cheeks and I even rubbed on her pucker. Finally I asked to finish up on the table. So she washed me, dried me, and took me over to that area to rest.
Moe ordered me a drink while she cleaned up the mat briefly. I loved looking at her pussy and ass as she bent over, glistening from the nuru gel and water. When she came back over I was still rock hard. She made some cute noises, sucked on it, put a jimmy hat on with her mouth, then let me fuck her hard before I came in standing doggie.
Not bad for 55 k.
I like the novelty of new places and new faces, but this is becoming my regular soapland. As good as Moe treated me, she might become my regular soapland girl too.