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02-22-25 21:25 #14175Senior Member

Posts: 243Wonderful. Since you know the system, here are some advanced ideas. It should go without saying that if you thought Haruna was very special, you can just see her again. There are obvious pros and cons. But one pro is you get the full 40 minutes, no gap between girls, you know what you're getting. Of course, that repeat visit with the card and promo rate is significantly cheaper than an extension. Another option is to try other oppai pubs. They are probably better, the trick is getting in. The other disadvantage is girls at other pubs are less used to the language barrier, but I was able to enjoy oppai pubs with even 3 months Japanese (I was embarrassed but glad I went) when I first started.
Originally Posted by Dreams
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It's just a guess but you may be able to get into Leicester and Hosekinobako since you speak a little Japanese and have the Luxe girl's card and discount entry. Show both cards, that is proof you went to Luxe successfully - you know an oppai pub's rules and system and you paid your bill. Atex even showed his receipt to do this - he is American and spoke no Japanese. Of course, anyone who speaks enough Japanese can get into them normally. My guess is about 2 years because I noticed other Asian American customers who spoke just a bit of Japanese. I have found that once you are approved to go into a club, that's all that matters.
I like the girls at Hosekinobako but it is a 6 minute walk from Manzoku and you have to cross traffic. The first time if you rely on Manzoku (that's how I did it), amazingly Hosekinobako will send a guy all the way over to Manzoku to walk you over. Very Japanese service, but otherwise there's no way you'd find the place first time. It's on the top floor of a building, if you want to go back a 2nd time just make note of the building it's near - I think across the street is a karaoke place. In Japan don't take direct photos of people but you can take a photo of the building across the street to remember. It's okay if people are in your photo as long as that's not the focus of your photo (ex. similar idea to Germany).
I liked Leicester for having a more chill vibe, it is maybe 5 minutes from Manzoku but towards Shinjuku station so on repeat visits it's easy to get to. The club was brand new when I went last year, just 1 to 2 weeks opened. So I imagine things may be totally different today than back then. At the time last year, girl quality was in-between Luxe and Hosekinobako. There are other oppai pubs too but once I found my 3 I kept rotating between them since I couldn't go all the time due to sightseeing.
If you use your girl's card when Haruna is there, you get her plus a discount. Each club may have different rules, but at Leicester I used a girl's card and she wasn't there, so they honored the discount and gave me back my card. The card discount is actually close to the Manzoku rate (sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less). This is why I recommend Manzoku, their rates are as good and sometimes even better than the own shop's promo. One reason is all oppai pubs price match when going through Manzoku. But, if the club is full or almost full, they might refuse new customers (a line forms out the door). 8pm to 10pm is usually the best time to enter an oppai pub, too early and girls haven't shown up yet (that time will not count against you), too late and the pub might be full.
It needs to be said that I like Japanese women first, above all others. So to me, oppai pubs are a steal. Whereas to a guy who likes Thai women for example, they'd be puzzled at what's the point when Thailand offers girls even cheaper. Same for guys that don't prefer Asians and are just open to it. It's one factor in why soapland and Delivery Health is more popular with visitors.
Next time I visit I'll try to find out what other options there are. Anyone who can speak some Japanese should be able to ask Manzoku staff, it's what they do all day. On the walls much of the space is plastered with posters for hostess clubs. I believe the rate I got was 4K happy hour, 6K normal hour as "promo rate" to enter for 60 minutes. So much cheaper than an oppai pub, but you need to speak Japanese. On the next wall are oppai pubs. Then on the next wall are fs and fetish shops.
Within Kabukicho, I researched each shop either online or through Manzoku since they will only post legit shops. I remember going to Super Angel 18 years ago, it has been so long there's no way I can know what it's like anymore. But amazed it's still there and with the same logo. I see girls bars at every city, it's a lot more common these days. I haven't done a girl's bar in a while, though I've talked with a few briefly who held up signs for them. I looked up the bar on Instagram and it was quite wholesome. Photos of girls with salarymen, most clearly quite tame. But there are so many kinds.
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02-22-25 04:24 #14174Senior Member

Posts: 1816I also went to Luxe yesterday evening.
I had already gone to an oppai pub during several visits, some 5- 10 years ago, so decided to go back, and followed Traveller X advice and got to Luxe easily. Current price at 7. 30 pm for first visit was 8 K.
Seems I got lucky: My first girl was just OK, let me touch her, no kiss and asked for a drink after 10 min. I said no thanks and she went. Then my luck, second girl came, young, smily and cheerful, especially when I started to talk to her in my broken Japanese. I got full access to her beautiful breast and she herself asked if she could kiss me, which I happily agreed to. Long deep kisses. Then I offered her a dink. Her name is Haruna. She left me her card and told me when she would next be there. A few minutes left when another nice and smiling girl came, not much time left, very small breast, but decided not to extend.
So, in short, 1 very good, 1 good and 1 one Ok.
When leaving I was given a coupon for my next visit for only 5 K before 10 pm, and my favourite girl gave me a card which allows me to nominate her for free.
So their marketing strategy seems to work, I'll probably go back.
Unless Traveller X advise to try another oppai pub?
Just to complete, since I needed release, I took the yamanote line to Jana Jan., got my release, and went back happily at home.
Where else in the world can you fondle and kiss three young pretty Japanese girls and then get a quick bbj, for less than 150 $?
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02-22-25 03:17 #14173Senior Member

Posts: 243This is another report of GPS and "buy a drink first" behavior at LUXE. I did see this with two girls out of about a dozen at LUXE last summer, but it sounds like it's becoming even more common. Thanks for reporting on this. Two reports like this in a month is not a fluke.
Originally Posted by YolpSwa
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In your case the risk was clear of getting all 3 duds. Some other guy might get 2 decent girls out of 3. But the fact that you got 1 out of 3 and CaptainSolo got 0 out of 3 is a bad sign statistically. I got 2 out of 3 at Luxe but that was 9 months ago. Oppai pubs have a high turn around where girls leave and they hire new girls, and some girls don't know their job. I'm surprised CS got a near 40s housewife type lady, which is worse than just a girl that wasn't his type. That is a bad sign they have too many customers and too few quality girls, and are just hiring whatever to fill the ranks. They are surviving on the fact that other oppai pubs don't take "English only" customers by default, that we have limited choices.
I'll note that at Leicester, there were brand new girls too, I could tell because they were nervous at first and not used to it. At least they were hot, and I'm always nice to girls and can speak enough Japanese so it was no problem. I mention this because the manager at Leicester would watch these girls like a hawk. I thought he might be checking me out, but it became clear they were watching the new girls only to see if they were putting out. This is very a Japanese thing not specific to the RLD, Japanese managers slave drive their workers at all kinds of jobs. When management changes and they don't, a shop fails quickly due to competition. Japanese customers are super picky. It's why I prefer "for Japanese but foreigner okay" shop.
Regardless of the shop quality, if you do get a girl you like 1st or 2nd, it pays to keep her. Even if the next girl would have been better, it's honestly not a bad problem to have. I can get into multiple oppai pubs and get their 6K / 8K promo rate (6K is happy hour), so I hop pubs by default. I try to see 9-15 girls during my trip, I'm just looking for variety and maybe meet some memorable winners for hours. This combos with my strat of focusing on Kira Kira where I bang a girl for cheap rather than try to spend a lot to get a hotter girl. I've mentioned before you can bang jgirls and kgirls in Socal more easily anyways.
I'll upload my first oppai pub, Scent Finesse in Nagoya 21 years ago. It was 4000 yen happy hour, 6000 yen late hour for 60 minutes. 3 girls but stretched out longer. There has not been a ton of inflation in Japan, but considering it's 6000 yen / 8000 yen for 40 minutes in Tokyo I imagine Nagoya prices are probably somewhere in the middle today. I could go wild with any and every girl in Nagoya. The VIP was only 10000 yen per hour, so once I found my favorite I booked her another hour in a private room. I'm not pushy, the girl let me have my way even getting on top of her no problem. I respected all rules and avoided her privates only. I remember the male staff walking in on us to let us know the time is up, me on top of her. He was a bit taken aback but he could see it was all good and the girl was okay with it. We got up, she got decent, and like a respectful lady walked me out and bowed to me in gratitude. I remember thinking Japan was an alternate reality.
I later went to Tokyo, where most shops rejected me and it was more expensive for less. I did not get near the same level of service, but oppai pubs were still good enough value. Any guy is happy as long as he gets a good girl after all. As long as. Therein lies the problem.
For the time being, I can't recommend Luxe for normal guys. It's not the relatively cheap and easy fun oppai pubs are supposed to be. In future trips I will try to find out exactly how foreigner friendly other oppai pubs are. I think there may be others, but I was happy enough with Luxe to write a report on it. Then I moved on to "Japanese only" pubs like Hosekinobako and Leicester, even poking in again for Luxe.
Thanks so much for this ranking. Last year I read many ymmv reports of DHs, but there was a clear pattern that some DHs were more reliable than others. The more reports the better, obviously no shop has a perfect record and a lot of it depends on the girl too. It's one reason I recommended Kira Kira, since it at least had a much higher success of "I enjoyed it" and in KK's case was pretty cheap.
Originally Posted by AllTaken123
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Glad you can enjoy things elsewhere too. For those that don't know, Socal is perfectly good for jgirl and kgirl fun.
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02-21-25 23:51 #14172Regular Member

Posts: 23Thank you, Rick Rock! So I posted a review of her on another site and someone who's seen her in the past replied with the following:
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"As for that sound effect she makes I know exactly what you mean. She's saying yoisho. It doesn't mean anything. It's kind of a dad sound if you know what I mean although women say it too. I noticed she said it a lot as she moved around, squatting down to put her clothes down yoisho, standing up again from squating yoisho, picking something up yoisho lmao. More than half of the girls I've met have that habit and I sort of picked it up too. Cute little quirk. ".
I don't quite get it but this person's reply matches my experience so I'll take it. I guess some people find it cute.
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02-21-25 19:54 #14171Senior Member

Posts: 1451Really great report! Fully fledged, made me feel like I was there.
Great work on her pillowy ass.
I'm not expert, but I would guess the word she repeated was "deshou" https://jlptsensei.com/learn-japanes...eshou-meaning/.
Sound familiar?
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02-21-25 18:13 #14170Regular Member

Posts: 1Luxe
Went to LUXE today. Middling experience.
Went to the bat store and it worked perfectly, they gave me 8000 price.
First girl came, said she will not do anything first time just talk. I said everyone else does tho and then she just left.
Second girl came and said she would only hop on if I brought her a drink. I said no, she just left.
So I was there 20 minutes and 12 of them alone.
Third girl came, quite cute. Actually did hope on and let me touch her breasts and was nice. Kissing only pecks.
She asked if I wanted to buy her a drink and I said yes and got 20 more minutes with her.
Paid $150 in total for just touching 1 girls breasts for 25 minutes. Was okay but I'm not sure I will come back.
I was very friendly and not pushy at all maybe that was the mistake.
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02-21-25 01:57 #14169Regular Member

Posts: 23Amateur Tokyo Report. Miki Yamamoto
I relied a lot on Rick Rock's reports so when he asks, I have to speed up my report writing and deliver. So below is a report on one of my experiences at Tokyo Amateur Escorts. My other experience was a threesome with Hinata Miyagawa and Risa Mizuki and I'll post a report about it soon.
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Date and Time: January, night.
Location: Outcall to my hotel.
Agent: www.amateurtokyo.com.
Name: Miki Yamamoto.
Nationality and language: Japanese and conversational English.
Age: 20-21.
Face: 5/10.
Body: 9/10.
Service: 9/10.
GFE: 10/10.
PSE: 8/10.
Damage: 39 k (110 min) + 10 k (FS) = 49 k.
WIR: Probably.
Background:
This was my first time using Tokyo Amateur. I read lots of different reviews across various sites, narrowed my options down to a few girls, and settled on Miki. She wasn't my first option but she's what worked for my schedule. I would see my first option (s) later, more reports to come.
Booking was a little restrictive. They publish the girls' schedules but would not let me book more than a day in advance. So if I wanted to see a girl at a specific time date, I had to message them first thing in the morning the day before. Once I got that figured out, I messaged them on LINE the morning before the date and set up the appointment.
Introduction:
For outcall, I like to wait outside of the hotel and meet the girls as they arrive. There was a convenience store right in front of my hotel so I always asked the girls if they'd like to grab anything first and they all ended up gratefully grabbing a drink. No girl tried to take advantage of this even when I insisted that they could grab more drinks or food. No girl grabbed more than one beverage.
Miki arrived and I was initially disappointed by her face. I'm a fan of clean, white skin but Miki had a relatively large, square-ish jaw and a lot of moles on her face. Now I will stress that I'm looking at the site now and her photos have been updated. The first photo is the most accurate one of her face if you added moles to it. I wouldn't say she's ugly but her face just wasn't my type at all so YMMV. We went upstairs and she spoke decent, conversational English. She told me she's an English Lit major in college but doesn't like reading books. We both thought this was funny and we had a good laugh about it.
Miki got undressed to shower and this is where she shines. In my opinion, she has an incredible body. I don't know how else to put it other than she has an all-natural body of a young 20-year-old. I mentioned in my previous reports that I'm not a fan of very skinny girls or man-mades so someone can obviously have different opinions. Miki's definitely not super skinny and she doesn't exercise so she's soft. But she has beautiful, natural see-cups (US size) and a nice plump ass that'll fill up your hands when you grab them. She's also natural with a Bush so if you're looking for a clean, shaved pussy, look elsewhere. I don't mind the natural Bush so it didn't bother me at all. If I was disappointed with her face, I was pleasantly surprised with her body.
Session:
We jumped in the shower and it was standard, nothing special. We then got on the bed and started making out. She didn't hold back with DFKs and I would have indulged more had I been more attracted to her face. She then moved down for some BBBJ and it was surprisingly very good. I would say it was one of the best BBBJs I've had during this trip with the perfect amount of saliva and suction. If I were a multiple-shot guy, I would have loved to let her continue for a CIM finish but I knew I'd be one and done so I asked her to turn around for some 69 to distract myself. Miki lets out very cute moans and it doesn't feel fake or forced at all. After a few minutes of shared pleasure, I was afraid I might finish so we took a little break. She straddled me and we made out a little more before she started rubbing herself on me with (sumata). Her sumata felt incredible as well with both of us being lubed up well from the 69 session. And watching her perfect tits move around as she grinds is a thing of beauty.
I wasn't sure how it would go but I was turned on so much from the sumata that I half-jokingly asked her if she can just put it in. To my delight, she giggled and said only if I can keep it a secret and asked if 10 k extra is okay. I didn't even have to negotiate at this price and happily accepted. She then capped me and started riding me cowgirl, letting out her sweet moans which were a huge turn on for me. We had been going at it for a while with the BBBJ / sumata / cowgirl and I didn't want to blow my load yet so asked her to slow down and eventually stop. I pulled her close to suck on her perfect tits for a while before flipping her over into a missionary position. We made out for a while and I was still hard as a rock so I stayed in her the entire time. I started moving slowly as I calmed down a bit and we moved through various missionary positions (knees to chest, legs spread, etc). I then flipped her over for some doggy and what I saw brought a huge grin to my face. I'm an ass man and her nice, plump ass was almost perfect. I started slowly to make sure she was okay and was so turned on by looking at her ass bounce against me that I knew I wouldn't last long. As I pumped harder, Miki's moans grew louder and louder and I was briefly worried that my hotel neighbor would hear everything. I wanted to go longer but all this was too much for me to handle and I blew my load and collapsed on her and held her for a while. She then cleaned me up and got back in bed to cuddle up next to me. We just held each other for a while and she may have even dozed off for a few minutes. We just chatted and laid there for a while until the alarm rang and it was time to shower.
Conclusion:
After we got dressed, I walked her to the escalator as we said our goodbyes with a light kiss.
I'll mention a habit of Miki's that I found a little odd and annoying. She would say this Japanese word that sounded like some version of issho / asho / osho at everything. It was clearly a habit of hers. She would walk into the hotel room and say it, she would put down her bag and say it, she would walk into the shower and say it, etc. I'm just glad she didn't say it in the middle of our session or else it would have bothered me. Maybe others won't notice and won't be bothered by it but my OCD tends to focus on things like this.
Rankings:
My ranking didn't show up correctly in my previous post so I'll rank it again. In general, without accounting for specific experiences with specific girls, my rankings are below. However, my number one girl is Fuyuno from THC.
1. Tokyo Amateur Escorts.
2. THC.
3. Soaplands.
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02-21-25 00:25 #14168Regular Member

Posts: 23I don't speak any Japanese outside of a few phrases that every traveler should learn. It may depend on the girl though since I dealt directly with Sei.
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02-20-25 21:36 #14167Senior Member

Posts: 89The website says she is 26 and she is probably 26. She is going down to the Philippines (Cebu) sometime in April or May a month or two for immersive English language course, even though she is conversant. Good on her. Like I said, she is super nice but my experience with Japanese women is limited to only her and two Tokyo Amateur Escort events. One of those was unbelievably great (but can't find her any longer) and another was fine enough but won't repeat because of so many other options out there.
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I've booked another appointment with Misuzu a week in advance already.
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02-20-25 18:18 #14166Regular Member

Posts: 3Cordon Blue
Thank you for your post, I'm new here and will be in Japan soon but don't speak Japanese.
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Is that a deal breaker for Cordon Blue?
Thanks.
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02-20-25 18:04 #14165Senior Member

Posts: 243Some people reported success with Thai and foreign women. Streetwalking is not allowed in Japan so foreign Asians in Japan feel more comfortable with tourists, and Thai women tend to follow through. But there's not a lot of reports.
Originally Posted by Captain Solo
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JPLove was also a fan of it:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...ll#post2942958 JPLove at Granbell
I don't recommend tachinbo because it's YMMV and if you're in Japan you might as well sample what Japan specializes in like soapland or oppai pubs. But since guys are dead set on doing this anyways, I'm just sharing the info. I get that there is a thrill and appeal of just walking up to someone, but it's not what Japan is good at. These girls are amateurs who might be GPS or not good at it.
Originally Posted by JPLove
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If a guy just wants to bang jgirls, they can do it back in the US. There is less selection but you don't have to go somewhere else for it.
People ask about this every month or two. The video is real but the claims are fake. Actually, you asked this question 2 months ago and I answered it. So maybe you missed the reply:
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http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2969749 Tiktok is simply fake.
Originally Posted by HotDog666
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The reason people don't talk about them is the Tiktok and Youtube videos with outlandish titles are completely fake. They're mostly made by teenagers who have neither been to Japan nor touched women.
Originally Posted by TravelerX
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02-20-25 11:55 #14164Senior Member

Posts: 250There's some tik tok videos on my feed which shows this guy just walking around with presumably a concealed camera (which is dodgy) around some part of Tokyo / (Shinjuku?) where there are loads of attractive / very attractive street walkers who are clearly up for business. It's interesting to see this and to hear of any experiences, which don't seem many on this board.
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02-20-25 01:51 #14163Senior Member

Posts: 6994Okubo Street girls
Last year visit among old, pudgy street girls around the hospital, I found 3 very attractive ones, standing, bundled in winter coat, umbrellas, tall, long legs, faces wearing masks but looked young and pretty. A local guy talked to one on and off then they went into a love hospital behind her.
I was hesitant with my lack of Japanese then. But now I can just show them the pic of the hotel and start negotiation. Look like they are not averse to foreigners. Perhaps the bros could have better sessions than I had.
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02-19-25 21:29 #14162Senior Member

Posts: 1451Looking forward only to see if we did any of the same girls and how our ideas compare!
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02-19-25 19:35 #14161Senior Member

Posts: 243This is true if all you want to do is bang. However when I dated jgirls seriously, it was very different. I always banged 2nd date. But I had already made it clear first date I wanted to bang, and she said next time and I got it 100%. Japanese girls have the common sense to follow through, I won't write an essay but they are direct about some things. Their situation and place in life dictates whether they are looking for "just fun" or something more. I've dated enough Japanese girls to observe that if they bang you on 2nd date they actually want a relationship. So if you really just want to bang and leave, good to know!
Originally Posted by AussieGaigin
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Best to imagine that a jgirl either wants a ONS (one night stand) or a relationship no matter her reasoning. If she is open to ONS then that's what you can get. If she wants a relationship, that's what you can get. Obviously, a lot of guys try to get a ONS out of the relationship girl anyways and while it can happen, this gap is responsible for a lot of failures. The other gap of course is you didn't prepare the girl and she simply doesn't want to. The clues are always there.
It is a numbers game in Japan, many women don't find me attractive but randomly some girls really did. It was quite refreshing to have that, so I just quickly move on if a girl doesn't find me attractive. It was beyond easy to get a ONS from a girl who wanted one. I have had girls tell me like when I met one in the US. I reverse Uno'd her and dated her anyways. That is how I ended up going to Japan the first time and turning into Traveler X. As I've said, I've never gone to Japan to monger. Always to see a girl, friends, or sightseeing.
There is a very different approach to nampa versus trying to date Japanese women, even though there are overlapping skills. I know because I kept looking for a girlfriend instead of a ONS, but ran into ONS girls as a result. All my ONS were in Japan where I simply met people both guys and girls. Even though I actually wanted a girlfriend first, I took the ONS as a substitute "along the way". A good learning experience. It was really the backwards of how things were in the US. One day I will try to write a dating guide, but it is mostly useless (i.e. a waste of time) for nampa due to the ONS vs relationship goal gap.
This is the way.
Originally Posted by Rick Rock
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It should be clear if she is already having a good time with you or not. Note how she talks with you, how she looks at you. There is no point in continuing even the date if part-way through it's clear it's not working out. So I often keep open half a day for a girl but I'm ready to drop her off early on if we aren't vibing. I use a polite excuse, I'm good at finding one but you can always say you aren't feeling well to say goodbye. Then skip off to get worshipped by a pro.









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