Bangkok Reports

[EverythingThai]

Thermae Café, located in the heart of Sukhumvit, is a legendary late-night hangout that has been around since the Vietnam War era. It's not a typical café, it's more of a meeting place for freelancers (working girls) and customers. If you're new to Bangkok nightlife, this guide will help you navigate the scene smoothly.

Location & How to Get There.

• Address: Thermae Café, Sukhumvit Road, between Soi 13 and Soi 15 (underneath the Ruamchitt Hotel).

• Nearest BTS Station: Nana (BTS) – a short walk from Exit 3.

• Opening Hours: Usually from 8:00 PM – 4:00 AM, but peak time is after midnight.

What to Expect.

• The place is not a brothel but a social venue where freelancers gather to meet potential clients.

• The setup is casual with a bar, tables, and seating areas where ladies wait for customers.

• The crowd is a mix of tourists, and expats.

Basic Etiquette & Dos and Don'ts.

Dos.

✔ Order a drink – You need to buy at least one drink to get inside. Prices are reasonable.

✔ Be polite and respectful – Treat everyone with basic respect. No need to be aggressive.

✔ Take your time – No pressure to make a decision immediately. You can chat with multiple people before choosing.

✔ Negotiate discreetly – If you're looking for company, discuss expectations clearly but quietly.

Don'ts.

✖ Don't take pictures or record videos – Privacy is a big deal here.

✖ Don't be rude or disrespectful – No touching or harassing people without consent.

✖ Don't act like a first-time tourist – If you're new, observe first before making a move.

✖ Don't get too drunk – Stay in control; this isn't a nightclub.

Pricing & Negotiation.

• Standard rates for short-time companionship usually range from 2,500 to 5,000+ THB, depending on the girl. I have been able to get BBFS CIP here often by just offering an extra payment.

• Japanese and Korean customers often pay higher (closer to 4,000-5,000 THB) without haggling.

• Westerners may get quoted a higher price as a way to discourage them.

• Don't ever pay upfront.

• If she insists on crazy prices (like 7,000+ THB), just walk away – plenty of other options.

Short-Time Hotel Option.

If you don't have a place to go, there's a short-time hotel conveniently located upstairs in Ruamchitt Hotel.

• Rates are around 500-800 THB for a few hours.

• It's discreet, clean, and easy to access without hassle.

• Some girls might suggest a different hotel, but Ruamchitt is the most straightforward choice.

Be Careful Outside: The Ladyboy Factor.

As you leave Thermae, especially later at night, you'll notice many ladyboys waiting outside the entrance or nearby alleys.

• Some are upfront about it, but some might try to pass as women.

• If you're unsure, check the voice, hands, check for an Adam's Apple, mannerisms and height.

• If ladyboys aren't your thing, be polite and walk away.

The Challenge: Why Thermae Girls Prefer Asian Men, Especially Japanese.

Thermae has a long-standing Japanese connection, and many of the girls here specifically prefer Japanese, Korean, or Chinese clients.

• Japanese men have been regulars for decades, and the girls often speak basic Japanese.

• Western men may find it harder to get attention compared to Asian tourists.

• Some girls might reject non-Asian customers outright, or only go for them as a last resort. They often quote higher prices to westerners to discourage them from choosing them.

Why Do They Prefer Asian Men?

1. Less Talking, More Action – Asian guys don't spend time discussing details or making the girl follow a specific "script" in the bedroom. They get to the point.

2. Politeness & Discretion – They keep things simple and don't ask too many unnecessary questions.

3. The "4-4-4 Rule" – This is the inside joke among the girls:

"4 CM, 4 Minutes, 4000 Baht – Perfect!

• 4 CM – Japanese guys are known for having smaller packages.

• 4 Minutes – They finish faster than Western men.

• 4000 Baht – They pay more without negotiating too hard.

• Bottom line? More money, less effort.

This place can feel like a candy shop for newbies, especially first-timers who have never seen anything like it. The dimly lit space is packed with beautiful women, all dressed to impress, casually waiting for the right offer. Unlike bars or clubs where you have to work for attention, here, it's the opposite—the moment you step inside, eyes are on you, and choices are everywhere. But just like in a candy shop, not every treat is for you. Some girls have preferences, some will be out of your price range, and some might be a little too eager to seal the deal. The key is to pace yourself, observe the dynamics, and not rush into the first offer that comes your way. With the right mindset, Thermae can be an exciting and unforgettable dive into Bangkok's legendary nightlife.

[Werqweq]

My girlfriend picks my dirty clothes up to wash and iron them and always has them back within 2 hours. No idea how. She said she wants me to look good when I am out butterflying. She seems surprised when I am not with another chick. The other day she asked who keeps leaving those short hairs in my room.

Well, that's a bit unusual I think. I've always been honest with girlfriends (both in Thailand and farangland) from the start about my "butterflying" (and after saying that once I don't want to talk about it again, as nothing good ever comes from it), but from their side it has always been a "don't show me / don't let me know / please lie perfectly to me"-thing. Does Mint have a sister?

[BroComplex]

My girlfriend picks my dirty clothes up to wash and iron them and always has them back within 2 hours. No idea how. She said she wants me to look good when I am out butterflying. She seems surprised when I am not with another chick. The other day she asked who keeps leaving those short hairs in my room.

The way they talk drives me insane. I've been here for a week and I'm already losing my mind.

[Interstella]

It's refreshing to read this...

Thanks, EverythingThai! I am definitely going to hit up those spots before I make my exit. I'm also committed to making this a yearly trip.

So, I'd figure I would kind of test the waters here about negotiating tactics with women. For example, I remember my bud telling me about this business meeting / client meeting where he was given a list of 6 things he needed to walk away with in the final agreement. His employed tactic was to create 12 bullshit requests, and add that to the 6 requests that he actually needed. After hours of "deliberation" he walked way getting the 6 things he needed to accomplish, and the other side felt like they had driven a hard bargain by defeating 12 of his "other" requests. I would have never came up with this on my own.

Now with women, I'm considering a different approach in Thermae. I'm going to offer right off the bat the high average that I hear they are asking for, from one of the one's that smiles and makes eye contact with me. Korean Ice-Queens need not apply. Anyway, my tactic is just going to be to offer that, and then start heading to the hotel. No discussion of time, or specific requests. I am then going to maintain a hard stance of only payment after, and if I don't get what I want, (not asking for anything crazy here, just boiler plate sex) "here's 500 baht for your troubles and there's the door. " Spoiler alert, I'm not the nicest guy you've ever met, haha. Anyway, I feel like this could work, and who knows, maybe it will all go off without a hitch!

I just wanted to further compare notes on tactics for getting what you want as painlessly and carefree as possible with the available talent.

[GuyBrusg1957]

Are there any other places like The Pimp or La Belle? It's great and all but so far away from Soi 11.

[Quadratic]

To go along with my below newbie guide, here is an older post that will give you a good idea about what to expect here. Enjoy.





Sorry for the late reply. I forgot I started a user blog and I didnt see your question. I will answer in the Bangkok thread for you to compliment this post and the newbie guide I posted below.


I have a girl there who always takes care of me so she knows what girls I like. Before I come in I call her and she arranges the line up for me to choose in line. I choose and then when I arrive, they are there waiting for me. I usually choose two or three. Then narrow it down to my choice at the end of the night. All the girls know this in advance and are cool with it. I choose the one I most vibe with and the other one or two are happy to of had the fun and drinking.

Funny stuff. Imagine dressing up and paying that much money to play grabass with some mediocre chubby women, who might not even fuck you at the end of the night. Who is this for? Serious question. What type of man is this for? I have never met them.

[UglyAzzMan]

So, update on my trip. Bangkok is the shit, and I still have a couple weeks to go, glorious. Here are some experiences and overall thoughts that I will try and break it up into a somewhat logical flow.

There are definitely freelancer cuties hanging out on Soi 4, no doubt about it. It is definitely worth strolling though here as part of a "loop" if you're into picking up women this way. I don't drink anymore which kind of ruins the whole chilling out / "lady drink" experience, so I haven't even tried it. I kind of lament this, back in my 20's I would have posted up with a pack of reds and killed 8-10 bruskees a night, but oh well. But after multiple, multiple trips through Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy, a lot of what I am seeing is dark skinned 5's and 6's that are tattooed and look a bit rough by my standards at least, you know, being sober and all. I love to walk to keep thin, and as someone else put it, if you walk a specific loop in Sukhumvit, you are "guaranteed to find a yummy!" Two birds, one stone, also one bird full of batter by the end of the night, haha.

The first one I pulled, stands out a bit, so wouldn't be surprised if any one of you could still track her down for a go. Chinese, maybe 5'6", 120 pounds, victoryias secret body, big eyes, short black hair, 7 face, 8 body, light white skin. The only negative thing I could say about her, is the reveal of implants when the clothes came off, I hate implants, they look like salad bowls bolted onto a body. She should have just stuck with what I assume were previously tiny b's, instead of "upgrading" to large see's. Anyway, I stole a page out of one of your books and decided to do the negotiating on the way back to the hotel, to kind of create a "pot committed" situation. I offered 3 K, which she just nodded okay to. The session was fine, nothing special on her part as far as service is concerned, but she was hot enough that I didn't care much..

Negotiate 3,000 for a Street Walker doesn't make any sense. Is she going to say my usual is 1,000?

Then you say ok I give you 4,000.

Help me out here. LOL.

[UglyAzzMan]

Will be reporting from Rainbows for a week. You all excited.

[UglyAzzMan]

Maybe try to stop lying and see if that improves things for you. There are many guys here banging normal Thai girls after a cup of coffee and nothing more. Not even a little lie. Maybe the girls can feel you're lying. With dishonesty being a pretty big turn-off to a lot of people, it may even be some of the reason they're not keen on jumping out of their skirt for you.

Remember the 9th commandment: thou shall not lie.

What do these girls who have Sex for the price of a coffee look like?

Asking for a Friend.

[Mr Enternational]

Maybe try to stop lying and see if that improves things for you. There are many guys here banging normal Thai girls after a cup of coffee and nothing more. Not even a little lie. Maybe the girls can feel you're lying. With dishonesty being a pretty big turn-off to a lot of people, it may even be some of the reason they're not keen on jumping out of their skirt for you.

My girlfriend picks my dirty clothes up to wash and iron them and always has them back within 2 hours. No idea how. She said she wants me to look good when I am out butterflying. She seems surprised when I am not with another chick. The other day she asked who keeps leaving those short hairs in my room.

[EverythingThai]

To go along with my below newbie guide, here is an older post that will give you a good idea about what to expect here. Enjoy.

Back in March, the club had a great promotion so I decided to go for it. You can store the bottles in this promotion and drink them until you finish on future visits. Last week I made a plan to go in on a Saturday night to finish off the last two bottles from my promotion, stopping off at my favorite cigar shop on the way for 2 Romeo and Juliettes. Arrived just after 9 PM to my pre booked table. As always, the Momason brings me a huge line up of ladies. I typically choose 4 to drink with me for the first hour, Then I delete 2 after the first hour. After that I delete one more and the remaining one I will take home.

The fist hour costs me 1500=2500 baht per lady depending on their category. This night, I chose two 1500 Baht ladies, one 2000 baht lady and one 2500 Baht lady. So, the first hour cost me 7500 Baht. Each additional hour is 500-1000 depending on the category. The girls just drink from your bottles. Plus I ordered a set of fruits and snacks plus a tray of tequila.

Basically, on this night we would play drinking games, the girls would give me lap dances and I would finger them. They would get topless but not fully naked. You can close a curtain around some VIP booths. This time, I was given a VIP Karaoke room. They don't allow sex in this club but I was able to get away with a quick BJ for just a few minutes.

The girls here are really hot and their style is geared towards Asian clientele. Rich Thais, Koreans, and Japanese. Most of the ladies have white skin. I always get really drunk in this place and this night was no exception. After letting 3 out of the four ladies go, I was left with my chosen one for take out. One hour before the club closed, she was allowed to leave and off to my condo we went. We were both smashed.

After a brief shower, I was eager to lick pussy. When I am drunk, I love to do this. I must have been down there for an hour. She was going nuts. After that, I could not take it anymore and proceeded to fuck her in mish. Her silky white upper thighs and ass made me want to cream and that I did. Deep inside that pussy. She just had me so excited and I just continued fucking her. After she got on top and rode me for about 20 minutes until I flipped her over into doggy and finished again deep inside her pussy. Great session. I managed to find a photo of her on their Facebook for your viewing pleasure.

Damage for this night. Rounded up.

2 cigars=2400 baht.

1st hour= 7500 Baht.

2nd hour= 2500 baht.

3rd hour=800 Baht.

Snacks and fruit=1000 Baht.

Try of tequilas = 1500 baht.

The girl=10,000 baht LT.

Total=25,700 Baht approx from my foggy memory.

Then I had the 5 bottle package with two bottles left.

22,000 baht 5 bottle package paid in advance before. So, if you want to average that out to add the cost of two bottles into the night, be my guest. I'm lazy now to do that.

Thanks for the post ET. IMHO the Pimp Club is worth checking out for well healed punters interested in top quality girls and a fun night of entertainment. A night at the Pimp is expensive all right and that is a huge negative for some. To save a little $$$ it is best to come with a pal to share the club's fixed costs.

Question: You write, "After that I delete one more (girls) and the remaining one I will take home" which implies that all Pimp girls are available for takeout. " I was under the impression that many Pimp girls do not go home with customers the 1st night and that the best you can get from these girls first time you meet them in the club is their Line number to arrange a rendezvous later. Has the game changed since I was last there pre-Covid? Or did you ask the mamasan to only bring girls to your table that are available for take out?

Sorry for the late reply. I forgot I started a user blog and I didn’t see your question. I will answer in the Bangkok thread for you to compliment this post and the newbie guide I posted below.


I have a girl there who always takes care of me so she knows what girls I like. Before I come in I call her and she arranges the line up for me to choose in line. I choose and then when I arrive, they are there waiting for me. I usually choose two or three. Then narrow it down to my choice at the end of the night. All the girls know this in advance and are cool with it. I choose the one I most vibe with and the other one or two are happy to of had the fun and drinking.

[Werqweq]

But my hat is off to you. Hooking up with non-pro and fucking her on first date in Thailand is to me a rarity. But I'm glad TF worked well. Last year for me it was a bust trying to meet non FLs who would actually fuck. All wanted assurances of boyfriend, relationship etc. While I tried to offer those assurances (lying of course) but a 4 day trip for a farang is a dead giveaway. I had to ditch the strategy otherwise I would have wasted the entire 4 days fucking around and not having sex.

Maybe try to stop lying and see if that improves things for you. There are many guys here banging normal Thai girls after a cup of coffee and nothing more. Not even a little lie. Maybe the girls can feel you're lying. With dishonesty being a pretty big turn-off to a lot of people, it may even be some of the reason they're not keen on jumping out of their skirt for you.

Remember the 9th commandment: thou shall not lie.

[EverythingThai]

Before I get started: The Pimp in Bangkok is very different from the gentlemens clubs in Pattaya, both in atmosphere and how the girls interact. In Pattaya, clubs tend to be more relaxed, with a focus on immediate intimacy girls are often more forward, and bar fines are openly discussed. The Pimp, on the other hand, operates more like an upscale VIP party lounge, where the focus is on drinking, socializing, and having fun with beautiful hostesses rather than outright negotiations. While flirting, lap-sitting, and light touching are common inside, its not a gogo bar where girls can be taken out easily. Any after-hours arrangements are more discreet and depend on the girls interest, rather than a set bar fine system. The experience at The Pimp is more about creating a high-end, playful party vibe rather than instant gratification.


The Pimp Club is one of Bangkok's most high-end and well-known gentlemen's clubs. It's a mix of a party lounge and a VIP club, where men can enjoy private rooms, premium drinks, and the company of attractive Thai hostesses. The club is known for its lively atmosphere, good music, and a reputation for being one of the top spots for entertainment of this kind in Bangkok.

Getting There.

The Pimp is located in Town in Town, which is slightly outside central Bangkok. Since it's not near a BTS or MRT station, here are the best ways to reach it:

Bolt or Grab Taxi: The most convenient option. Just enter "The Pimp Bangkok" as your destination. Expect to pay 150-300 THB depending on traffic and starting location.

BTS Yellow Line: Get off at Lat Phrao Station, then take a short taxi or Bolt (10-15 minutes).

MRT Blue Line: Get off at Lat Phrao MRT Station and grab a taxi from there.

Airport Rail Link: The closest station is Ramkhamhaeng, but you'll need a taxi from there (15-20 minutes).

Motorbike Taxi: If you're coming from a nearby area, this can be a faster option in traffic.

Tip: Since Town in Town isn't a tourist area, some taxi drivers may try to overcharge. Use Grab or Bolt for a fair price.

Pricing System & Budgeting.

Unlike standard bars or gogo clubs, The Pimp operates on a bottle-service system, meaning you need to buy a bottle of alcohol to get a table and enjoy the company of girls.

Basic Costs:

Entry: Free, but a bottle purchase is required for a table.

Bottles: Start from 4,000-5,000 THB (whiskey, vodka, gin, etc.). Higher-end bottles go up to 30,000+ THB. You can prepay for a membership that can be used over a period of time, which include bottles and bottles can be stored.! You can also buy sets with alcohol and snack foods and some other Thai food and western style snacks.

Mixers: Usually included.

Hostesses:

Per drink: 300-500 THB per lady per drink.

Sitting Fee: 1,500- 2,500 THB per girl to stay with you for the night.

Lady drinks rack up fast, so keep track if you're on a budget.

VIP & Private Rooms:

For more privacy and a better experience:

Small VIP Room: 10,000- 15,000 THB minimum spend.

Large VIP Room: 30,000+ THB minimum spend.

Budget Suggestion:

Minimum for a good experience: 6,000- 10,000 THB.

VIP night with 2-3 girls: 15,000+ THB.

High-roller experience: 30,000+ THB for a private room and top-tier girls.

The Girls & Hostess Quality.

Pimp is known for high-end girls, many of whom are above average in looks compared to Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy bars.

Girl Quality & Categories:

1. Regular Hostesses (Standard Tier): Cute, friendly, and flirty. Usually mid-tier looks.

2. Top-tier Girls: Models, influencers, and Instagram-type girls. Expect a higher sitting fee and more expensive drinks.

3. University Girls: Many work part-time to fund their education. Often shy at first but warm up quickly.

Most girls are in their early to mid-20's, with a few younger or older ones mixed in. They dress elegantly, and unlike gogo bars, they aren't dancing on poles it's more about companionship and the vibe. However, there is live music and many of the top tier girls are dancing on stage doing sexy shows.

The Naughty Factor: How Wild Can It Get?

Inside the Club:

The Pimp isn't a gogo bar, but it's not just a drinking club either it's a hybrid.

Some light touching and flirting are common, but the club has an elegant atmosphere.

If you book a VIP room, you'll get more privacy, and things can get wilder inside.

After the Club:

Taking a girl out ("Freelance Option") depends on the girl. Some will, some won't.

Negotiations are not openly done in the club, but girls will hint at their availability.

Usual Costs: Expect 5,000- 10,000+ THB if a girl agrees to go with you after the club.

Final Tips for a Great Experience.

✔ Go with a group if possible it makes the party vibe better and costs can be split.

✔ Pick your bottle wisely some are much better value than others.

✔ Be clear with the mamasan (hostess manager) about what kind of girls you prefer.

✔ Don't overspend too fast lady drinks add up, and so do hostess sitting fees.

✔ Use VIP rooms for more fun better privacy and control over the atmosphere.

✔ Be respectful to the girls many are working to support themselves through school.

✔ If a girl likes you, you'll know the best connections happen naturally.

Final Verdict.

The Pimp is one of Bangkok's best high-end gentlemen's clubs, offering a premium experience, great-looking girls, and a stylish environment. It's not the cheapest place, but if you have the budget and know how to navigate the pricing, it can be a fantastic night out.

Would I recommend it? Yes, if you're looking for a classy but fun night in Bangkok with top-tier hostesses.

How to Dress.

While The Pimp is a fun and lively venue, it also has a high-end and stylish atmosphere, so dressing well will enhance your experience and help you make a better impression.

Dress Code Basics.

The Pimp is not a nightclub with a strict dress code, but it is an upscale gentlemen's club. Aim for a smart-casual to semi-formal look to blend in with the VIP vibe.

What to Wear (Recommended Outfits for Men).

✔ Smart Casual (Minimum Standard).

Polo shirt or button-down shirt.

Dark jeans or well-fitted chinos.

Loafers, clean sneakers, or dress shoes.

✔ Semi-Formal / VIP Look (Best for a Great Impression).

Fitted button-down shirt (long or short sleeve).

Slim-fit trousers or dark-colored jeans.

Blazer or stylish jacket (optional but looks great).

Leather dress shoes, loafers, or stylish sneakers.

✔ High-Roller Look (If You Want to Stand Out).

Designer or well-fitted dress shirt.

Tailored blazer or suit jacket.

High-end jeans or dress pants.

Luxury loafers or dress shoes.

What to Avoid (Don't Wear This).

✔ Flip-flops or sandals Not allowed for men.

✔ Tank tops, gym wear, or sleeveless shirts.

✔ Ripped or baggy jeans, sweatpants, or cargo pants.

✔ Dirty, old sneakers or cheap plastic sandals.

✔ Overly flashy or loud outfits (you want to look classy, not tacky).

Tip: If you're coming from a casual outing and wearing shorts or sandals, bring a change of clothes, or you might be denied entry.

Why Dressing Well Matters.

The girls take you more seriously Well-dressed men attract better attention.

Helps you blend into the VIP environment Looking the part improves your overall experience.

More respect from the staff The club caters to high-end clientele, and looking sharp gets you better service.

Confidence boost Dressing well puts you in the right mindset to enjoy the night.

Final Advice.

If in doubt, dress slightly better than you think you need to. A nice shirt, dark jeans, and good shoes will always work. You don't need a full suit, but looking clean, stylish, and put-together will ensure you have the best experience at The Pimp.

Pictures of some of the girls are attached. I had a great night with one but wont tell which one it was.

[EverythingThai]

So, update on my trip. Bangkok is the shit, and I still have a couple weeks to go, glorious. Here are some experiences and overall thoughts that I will try and break it up into a somewhat logical flow.

There are definitely freelancer cuties hanging out on Soi 4, no doubt about it. It is definitely worth strolling though here as part of a "loop" if you're into picking up women this way. I don't drink anymore which kind of ruins the whole chilling out / "lady drink" experience, so I haven't even tried it. I kind of lament this, back in my 20's I would have posted up with a pack of reds and killed 8-10 bruskees a night, but oh well. But after multiple, multiple trips through Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy, a lot of what I am seeing is dark skinned 5's and 6's that are tattooed and look a bit rough by my standards at least, you know, being sober and all. I love to walk to keep thin, and as someone else put it, if you walk a specific loop in Sukhumvit, you are "guaranteed to find a yummy!" Two birds, one stone, also one bird full of batter by the end of the night, haha.

The first one I pulled, stands out a bit, so wouldn't be surprised if any one of you could still track her down for a go. Chinese, maybe 5'6", 120 pounds, victoryias secret body, big eyes, short black hair, 7 face, 8 body, light white skin. The only negative thing I could say about her, is the reveal of implants when the clothes came off, I hate implants, they look like salad bowls bolted onto a body. She should have just stuck with what I assume were previously tiny b's, instead of "upgrading" to large see's. Anyway, I stole a page out of one of your books and decided to do the negotiating on the way back to the hotel, to kind of create a "pot committed" situation. I offered 3 K, which she just nodded okay to. The session was fine, nothing special on her part as far as service is concerned, but she was hot enough that I didn't care much. The price however doubled when it came time for the no "hat" discussion. There was a long pause on her part, and you could tell she was internally debating on whether on not she was even going to consider it, and she said 6 K, which kind of took me by surprise. But it made me feel like, whether there's a shred of truth to this inclination or not, that she doesn't do this with every single guy she goes with, or at least she filters to some degree. I'm not super concerned about that, I'm willing to roll the dice here and there and accept the consequences, because a life without "real sex" doesn't really seem like living to me at all. Anyway, after a couple of hours she left and that was that. Between Soi 15 & Soi 23 is where I found her. I have seen her standing out there other nights as well.

Now, before someone rushes in to tell me what a bozo I am for paying that much. Realize that I don't give a fuck, and that collusion and price fixing are essentially the motto of dipshit communist countries. I think what I got was well worth it, but hell, of course I would always like to pay less, and maybe I will next time, and maybe I won't. I find that negotiating a girl down doesn't always lead to the best service. So when a woman overquotes me, I usually just walk away instead of haggling. It's actually funny to me when people talk about "stupid tourists" or whatever coming in and messing up the price for everybody else. I just assume that purchasing power parity is an overly advanced concept for them. Anyway, having a blast here and will report back with more!

It's refreshing to read this. You came and you paid what you wanted even though you knew it was over the market price, but you did it because you can. If you know what you want, just go and get it without worrying about what the price police say. Bangkok can be just as much fun as Pattaya even though it's more expensive. I'm not a tourist and I could give a rats ass about what another punter pays. Keep enjoying your time and keep posting. Check out Crazy House mate. If you don't have to worry about a budget so much, you will love it! Then for a more upscale atmosphere check out Flamingo. There are some normal girls there and freelancers so just keep your head about you and your will have a blast. Then also go into levels.

[Interstella]

So, update on my trip. Bangkok is the shit, and I still have a couple weeks to go, glorious. Here are some experiences and overall thoughts that I will try and break it up into a somewhat logical flow.

There are definitely freelancer cuties hanging out on Soi 4, no doubt about it. It is definitely worth strolling though here as part of a "loop" if you're into picking up women this way. I don't drink anymore which kind of ruins the whole chilling out / "lady drink" experience, so I haven't even tried it. I kind of lament this, back in my 20's I would have posted up with a pack of reds and killed 8-10 bruskees a night, but oh well. But after multiple, multiple trips through Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy, a lot of what I am seeing is dark skinned 5's and 6's that are tattooed and look a bit rough by my standards at least, you know, being sober and all. I love to walk to keep thin, and as someone else put it, if you walk a specific loop in Sukhumvit, you are "guaranteed to find a yummy!" Two birds, one stone, also one bird full of batter by the end of the night, haha.

The first one I pulled, stands out a bit, so wouldn't be surprised if any one of you could still track her down for a go. Chinese, maybe 5'6", 120 pounds, victoryias secret body, big eyes, short black hair, 7 face, 8 body, light white skin. The only negative thing I could say about her, is the reveal of implants when the clothes came off, I hate implants, they look like salad bowls bolted onto a body. She should have just stuck with what I assume were previously tiny b's, instead of "upgrading" to large see's. Anyway, I stole a page out of one of your books and decided to do the negotiating on the way back to the hotel, to kind of create a "pot committed" situation. I offered 3 K, which she just nodded okay to. The session was fine, nothing special on her part as far as service is concerned, but she was hot enough that I didn't care much. The price however doubled when it came time for the no "hat" discussion. There was a long pause on her part, and you could tell she was internally debating on whether on not she was even going to consider it, and she said 6 K, which kind of took me by surprise. But it made me feel like, whether there's a shred of truth to this inclination or not, that she doesn't do this with every single guy she goes with, or at least she filters to some degree. I'm not super concerned about that, I'm willing to roll the dice here and there and accept the consequences, because a life without "real sex" doesn't really seem like living to me at all. Anyway, after a couple of hours she left and that was that. Between Soi 15 & Soi 23 is where I found her. I have seen her standing out there other nights as well.

Now, before someone rushes in to tell me what a bozo I am for paying that much. Realize that I don't give a fuck, and that collusion and price fixing are essentially the motto of dipshit communist countries. I think what I got was well worth it, but hell, of course I would always like to pay less, and maybe I will next time, and maybe I won't. I find that negotiating a girl down doesn't always lead to the best service. So when a woman overquotes me, I usually just walk away instead of haggling. It's actually funny to me when people talk about "stupid tourists" or whatever coming in and messing up the price for everybody else. I just assume that purchasing power parity is an overly advanced concept for them. Anyway, having a blast here and will report back with more!