Tokyo

[Runon99]

It seems strange for me as a foreign tourist to approach an illegal street walker when in a country that has hundreds (or more) legal working girl houses, escorts, and erotic massage. What is the benefit of it?

Possible benefits / appeal:

1. Illicit thrill of picking up a girl on the street.

2. Chance to window shop the actual girl you'd be with (rarely the case at soaps or DH).

3. Chance to be with a younger demographic that you would likely encounter at a soap.

4. Convenience if you're in the area vs trekking to Yoshihara / Kawasaki / Yokohama / etc.

5. No ambiguity on services (if you negotiate properly beforehand and / or she isn't a ripoff artist).

6. Excellent chance to have a good "bad beat" story (if you didn't negotiate beforehand and / or she is a ripoff artist).

I'm sure there are more I'm not thinking of.

[Captain Solo]

And excitements exploring new venues and exotic species.

I felt like Dr. Livingstone stepping off the boat in wild Africa.

Per Traveller X s intels, will discuss details of the deals and buy drinks for the standing girls in Shinjuku to learn Japanese possibly with my mouth and hands.

I understand a guy looking for views on the internet. Or a local guy who knows the scene. It seems strange for me as a foreign tourist to approach an illegal street walker when in a country that has hundreds (or more) legal working girl houses, escorts, and erotic massage. What is the benefit of it?

[CCRider1008]

Date and Time: January, afternoon.

Location: Incall to love hotel.

Agent: www.amateurtokyo.com.

Name: Risa Mizuki and Hinata Miyagawa.

Nationality and language: Japanese / Japanese.

Age: Risa - 22-24, Hinata - 20-22.

Face: Risa - 6/10, Hinata - 9/10.

Body: Risa - 9/10, Hinata - 8/10.

Service. Risa - 9/10, Hinata - 8/10.

GFE: Risa - 9/10, Hinata - 9/10.

Damage: 70,000 Yen.

Alltaken really appreciate the reports. The reports + Traveler advice have fine-tuned my strategy for upcoming trip. Japan is too expensive not to do some research on girl options so you saved me a lot of time.

From your reports it seems like you asked about the menu, add-ONS and got clear with all the girls at the beginning. Specifically FS chitsu sex. My question is did you need to bring it up or did they bring it up? And in any of your adventures did you just start with fun and let it play out, and see how she reacts to you doing what you want?

Lastly were you in Japan for mongering soley or did you do tourist stuff; what top 5 things do you recommend doing?

Cheers.

[JackieMarlo]

There's some tik tok videos on my feed which shows this guy just walking around with presumably a concealed camera (which is dodgy) around some part of Tokyo / (Shinjuku?) where there are loads of attractive / very attractive street walkers who are clearly up for business. It's interesting to see this and to hear of any experiences, which don't seem many on this board.

I understand a guy looking for views on the internet. Or a local guy who knows the scene. It seems strange for me as a foreign tourist to approach an illegal street walker when in a country that has hundreds (or more) legal working girl houses, escorts, and erotic massage. What is the benefit of it?

[AllTaken123]

Great report. Crazy about the hotel. Japan is usually very good about not bothering guests with that kind of noise. A little shocking!

Hinata is indeed gorgeous. Beautiful face. I agree with your assessment on her, but I think her body is great too. Just in a different way than the more model tone of the other. She's genuinely 20 years old too.

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Almost 100% sure this is what happened here. Especially in the case of a 3 P I would personally wait for them to bring up the option. If they didn't, I wouldn't. YMMV.

Agree, I still think about Hinata and her cuteness. I could just have her be my girlfriend for a day and I'd be a happy man. And my personal preference is Hinata's body over Risa's. I only rated Risa's higher because I think a lot of brothers might look at both of them and prefer Risa's physique.

Also agree, this was a stupid mistake on my part. The day before this mongering, I had a 3 P with THC girls and they brought it up first which is a small detail I forgot about. I'll post a report about it soon.

[Rick Rock]

Great report. Crazy about the hotel. Japan is usually very good about not bothering guests with that kind of noise. A little shocking!

Hinata is indeed gorgeous. Beautiful face. I agree with your assessment on her, but I think her body is great too. Just in a different way than the more model tone of the other. She's genuinely 20 years old too.

I had them take turns sitting on my face while the other continued her BBBJs.

One of the best things on earth I feel.

My only guess about what happened is that full service is supposed to be "secret" and the girls didn't feel comfortable or maybe didn't want the other girl knowing that they offer this service.

Almost 100% sure this is what happened here. Especially in the case of a 3 P I would personally wait for them to bring up the option. If they didn't, I wouldn't. YMMV.

[AllTaken123]

Date and Time: January, afternoon.

Location: Incall to love hotel.

Agent: www.amateurtokyo.com.

Name: Risa Mizuki and Hinata Miyagawa.

Nationality and language: Japanese / Japanese.

Age: Risa - 22-24, Hinata - 20-22.

Face: Risa - 6/10, Hinata - 9/10.

Body: Risa - 9/10, Hinata - 8/10.

Service. Risa - 9/10, Hinata - 8/10.

GFE: Risa - 9/10, Hinata - 9/10.

Damage: 70,000 Yen.

WIR: Yes but just solos.

Background:

This was my final excursion of my trip so I wanted to go out with a bang, pun intended. I did my research and chose Risa and Hinata based on the positive ratings. I knew the booking process so I messaged the agency via LINE early in the morning the day before and locked down the time. Easy.

Introduction:

I prefer outcall to my hotel but I knew I was going to be in the area so chose the incall option. I showed up 10 minutes before the appointment time. The staff made some calls and gave me a slip of paper that had the love hotel (Hotel Amore) information on it. I was told to go to the hotel and give them the paper to check in and wait until the girls arrived. I walked to the hotel (5-10 minutes) and saw that there was construction going on at the hotel. I didn't think much of it until I checked in and went into my room. The construction was so loud, it sounded like they were banging and drilling directly into my room. I went back out to reception and told them that I needed another room because it was too loud and they denied me. I then messaged the Amateur Tokyo staff and asked them to move me to another hotel and that was also denied. I was quite annoyed and even considered just leaving but the girls arrived as I was standing in the reception area.

Risa and Hinata are very physically different from each other. Risa is tall and skinny with a tight natural body but I was disappointed with her face. If you look at her photos, there's a reason why her mouth is photoshopped. She has bad, crooked teeth and she had some of the driest lips I've seen which made me not want to kiss her at first. She has colored hair that's lighter than her photos and I think she's going more for the sexy look with heavier makeup then Hinata. Hinata, on the other hand, is short with a soft natural body. If you look at her photos, there is no photoshop and that is her but with straight black hair. I don't even think she had any makeup on. I was pleasantly surprised and I personally find Hinata absolutely adorable. To me, she is the epitome of the cute GND.

Neither speak much English and we mostly communicated using a translation app. We all couldn't stop shaking our heads at the construction noise and I asked them if they had ever been in a worse hotel room and they confirmed that they had not and laughed. Just my luck.

Session:

We hopped in the shower and it was standard with one girl washing my front and the other washing my back. We then climbed into bed with Risa to my left and Hinata to my right. There was initially a lot of the awkwardness / shyness that I attribute to being a threesome with young girls and noob like me. It didn't help that there was jackhammering going on right above our heads. We chatted for a bit before I broke the ice by initiating some LFKs with Hinata, then Risa. Both were receptive but as I mentioned above, Risa's lips were very dry but it got better as we lubed it up with our kisses. The girls made their way down and it was quite a feeling and sight to have both girls licking and sucking on my nipples with lots of eye contact. The girls then took turns giving me BBBJs while the other either played with my nipples or made out with me with DFKs. I had them take turns sitting on my face while the other continued her BBBJs. I then had them on their backs as I took turns DATY with both of them. Not that I expected it but they didn't play with each other at all, but just waited until I was on them or made out with me when my mouth was free.

A moment of awkwardness here. I thought I had read other reports that Risa and Hinata offer the secret menu so I brought it up via translate. They both seemed very confused at first and I was worried that the translation was incorrect. But they eventually understood but still showed a lot of hesitation and seemed very uncomfortable. At this point, I realized it was a mistake and told them, "daijobou!" and they both smiled and repeated, "daijobou. " My only guess about what happened is that full service is supposed to be "secret" and the girls didn't feel comfortable or maybe didn't want the other girl knowing that they offer this service. I was surprisingly not disappointed at all by this. I had been mongering heavily during this trip so it didn't bother me at all so we moved on and got over the awkwardness quickly.

I lay back down on the bed with the girls on either side of me and we went back to rotating BBBJs. I was nearing the finish line and I was much more physically attracted to Hinata's face and wanted to make out with her to the finish line. She's a great kisser. She knew I was close and we kissed deeply and passionately until Risa finished me off for a CIM finish. Risa went to rinse while I continued to make out with Hinata. They cleaned me up and we all cuddled up and laid there until the alarm for the shower went off.

Conclusion:

Seeing Risa walk around naked at the end, I noticed that she has an incredible body. She's a little skinny for my taste but I bet a lot of brothers here would enjoy her body more than Hinata's which is why I objectively rated her body higher. She's tall, has a toned model-like body with a natural tits and tight ass. Hinata is more natural. Not too skinny and toned but very natural which is my style. I also rate Risa's service higher because she's the one that talks and smiles more. She took more initiative and seemed more experienced. Hinata has more of the shy vibe and her smiles are more shy and sly which I found adorable.

[Traveler X]

A long time female Japanese friend of mine declared that she was jealous of us for all the "fuzoku option" for guys over drinks a few days ago. I told her I think there are options for women too. It turned into a long discussion with lots of Googling. As time (and drinks) went on, we settled on trying it together. I thought maybe she would chicken out when sober so I just set it up right then and there.

Anyway, Ryo set up the scene with aromatherapy scents and slow music. We all bathed together and the giggles turned into moans. My friend has an average body with a huge Bush but I was so horny my dick looked doubly engorged which made me proud of myself for once.

I never actually touched my friend. Until now we have never had sex either. So that didn't change. But I am thinking of trying this massage again, then after the masseuse leaves putting on the moves. What's the worst that could happen at this point?

You have moved beyond the 1% of foreigners who have tasted DH, to the 1% of 1%. Many women are bi-curious, obviously those who aren't will just say no. Long ago, I took one of my female friends for paid fun. Like you, we never touched each other since I considered her a friend and didn't want to change things. But for those who do, maybe a second visit.

She has told me she would love to try again but worries about the expense. Even though I paid, I guess she feels like she's taking advantage or something. I will get this together again though.

Watching a female friend explore her sexual curiosity is a pleasure. Let's reassure them we don't mind paying by doing it again. I even took a kgirl once.

Funny thing is that "normal women" seem more into it than pros. Maybe pros are worried about losing a customer.

Women who want this fun, they follow you. The timing of your suggestion after her drunken comments was impeccable. This is the way.

RickRock, what is your life and how do I attain it? Sounds incredible. It reminded me that I need to write my reports on the threesomes I had in Tokyo but it was nothing natural like this. Yes, you had to hire someone but having a female friend who was into this?! Amazing.

In Japan, there is sometimes a separate menu checkbox for 'regular 3P' (two girls plus you) and 'guest 3P' (one girl plus you and your gf/wife). In the US, it is rare but a few kgirls even offer MFM.

I write a lot of guides. I actually wrote a guide on threesomes:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7088619 A tale of two duos

No point trying super angel, since it may cost more and, like you, I much prefer the company of Japanese women than any other Asians.

Still hesitating going back wto Luxe with my girl card, or trying another one. Not a bad dilemna to have.

I think the same. Japanese women are my first goal. Knowing your priorities, no harm in first asking Leicester (pronounced Lester) and Hosekinobako first with Manzoku. Show them your cards and that you "passed Luxe". Just a bit of Japanese goes a long way, I found between 3 months to 2 years of Japanese really made the most difference. After that helps more of course, but it's almost for showing off and advanced flirting. You can "get things done" with just 2 years. To go beyond, I watched lots of Japanese drama, movies, anime which helped with listening and vocabulary. Even oppai pubs improved my speaking.

[Rick Rock]

RickRock, what is your life and how do I attain it? Sounds incredible. It reminded me that I need to write my reports on the threesomes I had in Tokyo but it was nothing natural like this. Yes, you had to hire someone but having a female friend who was into this?! Amazing.

Nothing special except maybe that I dedicate a significant portion of my free time to the hobby. She wasn't the first friend who was interested in the game. I find that quite a few regular Asian women are up for a threesome as long as the third is "paid. " Funny thing is that "normal women" seem more into it than pros. Maybe pros are worried about losing a customer.

[Dreams]

Yes, Super Angel is still there. It's right next to a 2nd smaller Manzoku shop. I once used that smaller Manzoku to get the "first timer" discount a second time an oppai pubs. Of course, you can also just be straight and say it's your second time and Manzoku will call and ask if it's still okay (so far it's always been yes). Or use the discount card the girl gave you (but I didn't want to use her card lol).

About Super Angel, I saw the same things as you. Girls on a stage with numbers attached to them and you'd call out which number you wanted. Other guys would do the same. You get the girl you want, but it's possible another guy picks her first. Basically a 'cabaret' style oppai pub. The odd thing was many girls at Super Angel were non-Japanese Asian but spoke some Japanese. It's one reason I preferred oppai pubs, I specifically like Japanese girls both flirting with them, their personality, their looks. I know I'm in the minority there but I do. For those curious, some Super Angel information:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/inRYfQiJjmSdnmvH7 Super Angel Google Maps
http://www.superangel.jp/ Super Angel website

I haven't been in 18 years so I am not recommending it just providing info. They've been in business all this time so they must be doing something right. Now that I think back, Super Angel was one of the few Kabukicho places that let me in with 3 months Japanese. So I used it a for few years but moved on to other oppai pubs and fetish shops as my Japanese improved. Again, it's been nearly 2 decades so it could be better, it could be worse, no idea if foreigners allowed today but I was 20 years ago. I never encountered GPS there. The system back then was if you had 10 minutes, you would chat 5 and she would hop on 5. But most girls weren't strict and hopped on early if I asked.

Like you, I also went Koganecho in Yokohama. I try not to mention it too much since it's permanently closed and was so wonderful / Legendary like New Hot Point was. People wouldn't believe it unless they went there themselves. It was like the RLD of Amsterdam of glass houses where a girl would be in each house you could see. Similar idea to Tobita but even better. 1 man en for about 15 minutes. Majority of girls were Chinese, some Thai, some Euro, very few Japanese. As I mentioned, the Mayor of Yokohama campaigned to shut it down and followed through. I waved to him and he waved back to me once while on campaign. He later resigned in a hostess scandal.

I will now give some Japanese resesarch tips using Super Angel. If visitors could learn just a handful of Kanji, it would go a long way. In the 2nd image, you can see it says 平日 OPEN 17:50~1:00. The word 平日 (heijitsu) means weekday. So they are open 5:50pm to 1:00am, with the 1am being ~ meaning "whenever" since I might have 5 minutes left of licking left. 土日 16:50~1:00. 土日 (do-nichi) means weekend. Next see a screencap of the website and the highlighted word システム. This is just Katakana spelling out "Systemu" meaning system. If you click on it on any Japanese shop website, it will list prices and a basic summary of how their shop works.

Last, it shows a coupon discounting 13K to 11K, with 1 set for 40 minutes. I bet if you went to Manzoku, they'd get you 11K or less. But note the pricing, it makes sense for an oppai pub. In fact, I remember paying 10K when I went 20 years ago. Japan has only had 10%-20% inflation in 20 years. Due to competition, you can usually tell what a shop does by its prices.

Thnaks again.

No point trying super angel, since it may cost more and, like you, I much prefer the company of Japanese women than any other Asians.

Still hesitating going back wto Luxe with my girl card, or trying another one. Not a bad dilemna to have.

[AllTaken123]

If any of you are lucky enough to find a girl who wants to try erotic massage or lesbian play in Tokyo I can highly recommend Ryo from Tokyo Style.

A long time female Japanese friend of mine declared that she was jealous of us for all the "fuzoku option" for guys over drinks a few days ago. I told her I think there are options for women too. It turned into a long discussion with lots of Googling. As time (and drinks) went on, we settled on trying it together. I thought maybe she would chicken out when sober so I just set it up right then and there.

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RickRock, what is your life and how do I attain it? Sounds incredible. It reminded me that I need to write my reports on the threesomes I had in Tokyo but it was nothing natural like this. Yes, you had to hire someone but having a female friend who was into this?! Amazing.

[Rick Rock]

If any of you are lucky enough to find a girl who wants to try erotic massage or lesbian play in Tokyo I can highly recommend Ryo from Tokyo Style.

A long time female Japanese friend of mine declared that she was jealous of us for all the "fuzoku option" for guys over drinks a few days ago. I told her I think there are options for women too. It turned into a long discussion with lots of Googling. As time (and drinks) went on, we settled on trying it together. I thought maybe she would chicken out when sober so I just set it up right then and there.

I got in touch with Tokyo Style Massage over Telegram and to my surprise they had a lady ready to go within a couple of hours. We checked into a love hotel outside of Ikebukuro Station and messaged again on Telegram when we were ready. Ryo showed up maybe 10 minutes later with a light knocking.

We agreed to the rules, paid the money, and had a great time. My friend was so nervous and giggly but it quickly turned into one of my best FFM experiences ever.

Ryo has a good body and GREAT breasts. She kind of has a sexy lesbian look but I get the feeling she goes both ways in her personal life. This is just a guess however. Ryo told my friend she has massaged solo women and couples before. She seemed really comfortable with it.

Anyway, Ryo set up the scene with aromatherapy scents and slow music. We all bathed together and the giggles turned into moans. My friend has an average body with a huge Bush but I was so horny my dick looked doubly engorged which made me proud of myself for once.

Next thing you know we're getting a double warm oil massage that is slow and sensuous. It felt good and relaxing but also alluring. The whole time I was wondering what would happen. Well I was buzzed and it all kind of turned into a blur but I got a great oily handjob with lots of ball and taint play plus some really good blowjob action. My friend got the better of the situation I think it sounded like she came at least 3 times from Ryo's hands and mouth. I only came once, but what an orgasm it was! Total release.

I never actually touched my friend. Until now we have never had sex either. So that didn't change. But I am thinking of trying this massage again, then after the masseuse leaves putting on the moves. What's the worst that could happen at this point?

She has told me she would love to try again but worries about the expense. Even though I paid, I guess she feels like she's taking advantage or something. I will get this together again though.

I will note that Ryo doesn't speak English. It was no problem here. My friend speaks Japanese obviously. My Japanese is not good at all, but this never got in the way in this instance.

It wasn't cheap but really I don't think it was expensive at all for a great time like this. Especially now with the exchange rate, I really lucked out due to earning in USD.

[Traveler X]

I'll go back to Manzoku and ask them to get me in Leicester of the other one, since they will know I got in Luxe and can mumble a bit of Japanese.

What about Angel? I remember some 10-15 years ago that you could choose a girl on stage and can then fondle her like in oppai pubs. Still there?

Like you, I prefer Japanese girls / women while in Japan. Had enough of Thai / Chinese during past several trips to Bangkok / Singapore.

And I am not necessary looking for FS, I like female nudity, touching, flirting, watching, kissing etc. I still go to some of the few remaining strip theatres.

I still remember the good old times where a strip artist would provide services behind the curtain between items, such at the Kogane theatre in Yokohama.

Yes, Super Angel is still there. It's right next to a 2nd smaller Manzoku shop. I once used that smaller Manzoku to get the "first timer" discount a second time an oppai pubs. Of course, you can also just be straight and say it's your second time and Manzoku will call and ask if it's still okay (so far it's always been yes). Or use the discount card the girl gave you (but I didn't want to use her card lol).

About Super Angel, I saw the same things as you. Girls on a stage with numbers attached to them and you'd call out which number you wanted. Other guys would do the same. You get the girl you want, but it's possible another guy picks her first. Basically a 'cabaret' style oppai pub. The odd thing was many girls at Super Angel were non-Japanese Asian but spoke some Japanese. It's one reason I preferred oppai pubs, I specifically like Japanese girls both flirting with them, their personality, their looks. I know I'm in the minority there but I do. For those curious, some Super Angel information:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/inRYfQiJjmSdnmvH7 Super Angel Google Maps
http://www.superangel.jp/ Super Angel website

I haven't been in 18 years so I am not recommending it just providing info. They've been in business all this time so they must be doing something right. Now that I think back, Super Angel was one of the few Kabukicho places that let me in with 3 months Japanese. So I used it a for few years but moved on to other oppai pubs and fetish shops as my Japanese improved. Again, it's been nearly 2 decades so it could be better, it could be worse, no idea if foreigners allowed today but I was 20 years ago. I never encountered GPS there. The system back then was if you had 10 minutes, you would chat 5 and she would hop on 5. But most girls weren't strict and hopped on early if I asked.

Like you, I also went Koganecho in Yokohama. I try not to mention it too much since it's permanently closed and was so wonderful / Legendary like New Hot Point was. People wouldn't believe it unless they went there themselves. It was like the RLD of Amsterdam of glass houses where a girl would be in each house you could see. Similar idea to Tobita but even better. 1 man en for about 15 minutes. Majority of girls were Chinese, some Thai, some Euro, very few Japanese. As I mentioned, the Mayor of Yokohama campaigned to shut it down and followed through. I waved to him and he waved back to me once while on campaign. He later resigned in a hostess scandal.

I will now give some Japanese resesarch tips using Super Angel. If visitors could learn just a handful of Kanji, it would go a long way. In the 2nd image, you can see it says 平日 OPEN 17:50~1:00. The word 平日 (heijitsu) means weekday. So they are open 5:50pm to 1:00am, with the 1am being ~ meaning "whenever" since I might have 5 minutes left of licking left. 土日 16:50~1:00. 土日 (do-nichi) means weekend. Next see a screencap of the website and the highlighted word システム. This is just Katakana spelling out "Systemu" meaning system. If you click on it on any Japanese shop website, it will list prices and a basic summary of how their shop works.

Last, it shows a coupon discounting 13K to 11K, with 1 set for 40 minutes. I bet if you went to Manzoku, they'd get you 11K or less. But note the pricing, it makes sense for an oppai pub. In fact, I remember paying 10K when I went 20 years ago. Japan has only had 10%-20% inflation in 20 years. Due to competition, you can usually tell what a shop does by its prices.

[Dreams]

Wonderful. Since you know the system, here are some advanced ideas. It should go without saying that if you thought Haruna was very special, you can just see her again. There are obvious pros and cons. But one pro is you get the full 40 minutes, no gap between girls, you know what you're getting. Of course, that repeat visit with the card and promo rate is significantly cheaper than an extension. Another option is to try other oppai pubs. They are probably better, the trick is getting in. The other disadvantage is girls at other pubs are less used to the language barrier, but I was able to enjoy oppai pubs with even 3 months Japanese (I was embarrassed but glad I went) when I first started.

It's just a guess but you may be able to get into Leicester and Hosekinobako since you speak a little Japanese and have the Luxe girl's card and discount entry. Show both cards, that is proof you went to Luxe successfully - you know an oppai pub's rules and system and you paid your bill. Atex even showed his receipt to do this - he is American and spoke no Japanese. Of course, anyone who speaks enough Japanese can get into them normally. My guess is about 2 years because I noticed other Asian American customers who spoke just a bit of Japanese. I have found that once you are approved to go into a club, that's all that matters.

I like the girls at Hosekinobako but it is a 6 minute walk from Manzoku and you have to cross traffic. The first time if you rely on Manzoku (that's how I did it), amazingly Hosekinobako will send a guy all the way over to Manzoku to walk you over. Very Japanese service, but otherwise there's no way you'd find the place first time. It's on the top floor of a building, if you want to go back a 2nd time just make note of the building it's near - I think across the street is a karaoke place. In Japan don't take direct photos of people but you can take a photo of the building across the street to remember. It's okay if people are in your photo as long as that's not the focus of your photo (ex. similar idea to Germany).

I liked Leicester for having a more chill vibe, it is maybe 5 minutes from Manzoku but towards Shinjuku station so on repeat visits it's easy to get to. The club was brand new when I went last year, just 1 to 2 weeks opened. So I imagine things may be totally different today than back then. At the time last year, girl quality was in-between Luxe and Hosekinobako. There are other oppai pubs too but once I found my 3 I kept rotating between them since I couldn't go all the time due to sightseeing.

If you use your girl's card when Haruna is there, you get her plus a discount. Each club may have different rules, but at Leicester I used a girl's card and she wasn't there, so they honored the discount and gave me back my card. The card discount is actually close to the Manzoku rate (sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less). This is why I recommend Manzoku, their rates are as good and sometimes even better than the own shop's promo. One reason is all oppai pubs price match when going through Manzoku. But, if the club is full or almost full, they might refuse new customers (a line forms out the door). 8pm to 10pm is usually the best time to enter an oppai pub, too early and girls haven't shown up yet (that time will not count against you), too late and the pub might be full.

It needs to be said that I like Japanese women first, above all others. So to me, oppai pubs are a steal. Whereas to a guy who likes Thai women for example, they'd be puzzled at what's the point when Thailand offers girls even cheaper. Same for guys that don't prefer Asians and are just open to it. It's one factor in why soapland and Delivery Health is more popular with visitors.

Next time I visit I'll try to find out what other options there are. Anyone who can speak some Japanese should be able to ask Manzoku staff, it's what they do all day. On the walls much of the space is plastered with posters for hostess clubs. I believe the rate I got was 4K happy hour, 6K normal hour as "promo rate" to enter for 60 minutes. So much cheaper than an oppai pub, but you need to speak Japanese. On the next wall are oppai pubs. Then on the next wall are fs and fetish shops.

Within Kabukicho, I researched each shop either online or through Manzoku since they will only post legit shops. I remember going to Super Angel 18 years ago, it has been so long there's no way I can know what it's like anymore. But amazed it's still there and with the same logo. I see girls bars at every city, it's a lot more common these days. I haven't done a girl's bar in a while, though I've talked with a few briefly who held up signs for them. I looked up the bar on Instagram and it was quite wholesome. Photos of girls with salarymen, most clearly quite tame. But there are so many kinds.

Thanks!

I'll go back to Manzoku and ask them to get me in Leicester of the other one, since they will know I got in Luxe and can mumble a bit of Japanese.

What about Angel? I remember some 10-15 years ago that you could choose a girl on stage and can then fondle her like in oppai pubs. Still there?

Like you, I prefer Japanese girls / women while in Japan. Had enough of Thai / Chinese during past several trips to Bangkok / Singapore.

And I am not necessary looking for FS, I like female nudity, touching, flirting, watching, kissing etc. I still go to some of the few remaining strip theatres.

I still remember the good old times where a strip artist would provide services behind the curtain between items, such at the Kogane theatre in Yokohama.

[Dreams]

Wonderful. Since you know the system, here are some advanced ideas. It should go without saying that if you thought Haruna was very special, you can just see her again. There are obvious pros and cons. But one pro is you get the full 40 minutes, no gap between girls, you know what you're getting. Of course, that repeat visit with the card and promo rate is significantly cheaper than an extension. Another option is to try other oppai pubs. They are probably better, the trick is getting in. The other disadvantage is girls at other pubs are less used to the language barrier, but I was able to enjoy oppai pubs with even 3 months Japanese (I was embarrassed but glad I went) when I first started.

It's just a guess but you may be able to get into Leicester and Hosekinobako since you speak a little Japanese and have the Luxe girl's card and discount entry. Show both cards, that is proof you went to Luxe successfully - you know an oppai pub's rules and system and you paid your bill. Atex even showed his receipt to do this - he is American and spoke no Japanese. Of course, anyone who speaks enough Japanese can get into them normally. My guess is about 2 years because I noticed other Asian American customers who spoke just a bit of Japanese. I have found that once you are approved to go into a club, that's all that matters.

I like the girls at Hosekinobako but it is a 6 minute walk from Manzoku and you have to cross traffic. The first time if you rely on Manzoku (that's how I did it), amazingly Hosekinobako will send a guy all the way over to Manzoku to walk you over. Very Japanese service, but otherwise there's no way you'd find the place first time. It's on the top floor of a building, if you want to go back a 2nd time just make note of the building it's near - I think across the street is a karaoke place. In Japan don't take direct photos of people but you can take a photo of the building across the street to remember. It's okay if people are in your photo as long as that's not the focus of your photo (ex. similar idea to Germany).

I liked Leicester for having a more chill vibe, it is maybe 5 minutes from Manzoku but towards Shinjuku station so on repeat visits it's easy to get to. The club was brand new when I went last year, just 1 to 2 weeks opened. So I imagine things may be totally different today than back then. At the time last year, girl quality was in-between Luxe and Hosekinobako. There are other oppai pubs too but once I found my 3 I kept rotating between them since I couldn't go all the time due to sightseeing.

If you use your girl's card when Haruna is there, you get her plus a discount. Each club may have different rules, but at Leicester I used a girl's card and she wasn't there, so they honored the discount and gave me back my card. The card discount is actually close to the Manzoku rate (sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less). This is why I recommend Manzoku, their rates are as good and sometimes even better than the own shop's promo. One reason is all oppai pubs price match when going through Manzoku. But, if the club is full or almost full, they might refuse new customers (a line forms out the door). 8pm to 10pm is usually the best time to enter an oppai pub, too early and girls haven't shown up yet (that time will not count against you), too late and the pub might be full.

It needs to be said that I like Japanese women first, above all others. So to me, oppai pubs are a steal. Whereas to a guy who likes Thai women for example, they'd be puzzled at what's the point when Thailand offers girls even cheaper. Same for guys that don't prefer Asians and are just open to it. It's one factor in why soapland and Delivery Health is more popular with visitors.

Next time I visit I'll try to find out what other options there are. Anyone who can speak some Japanese should be able to ask Manzoku staff, it's what they do all day. On the walls much of the space is plastered with posters for hostess clubs. I believe the rate I got was 4K happy hour, 6K normal hour as "promo rate" to enter for 60 minutes. So much cheaper than an oppai pub, but you need to speak Japanese. On the next wall are oppai pubs. Then on the next wall are fs and fetish shops.

Within Kabukicho, I researched each shop either online or through Manzoku since they will only post legit shops. I remember going to Super Angel 18 years ago, it has been so long there's no way I can know what it's like anymore. But amazed it's still there and with the same logo. I see girls bars at every city, it's a lot more common these days. I haven't done a girl's bar in a while, though I've talked with a few briefly who held up signs for them. I looked up the bar on Instagram and it was quite wholesome. Photos of girls with salarymen, most clearly quite tame. But there are so many kinds.

Thanks!

I will go back to manzoku and ask them to get me in one of 2 others, since he will know I got accepted to Luxe, and that I can mumble a bit of Japanese.

Heard about Angel where you can choose a girl on stage by calling her number? Remember going to some places like that some 10-15 years ago. Is it still there and on your experience same / better than oppai bars? I would love similar places allowing touching below the waist, but never found one.

Like you I love Japanese girls / women, and prefer not to indulge with other Asian women while in Japan. Been to Bangkok / Singapore often enough and got my fill of Thai / Chinese etc.

Also Like you, I believe, my first objective is not FS, but nudity, touching, flirting, kissing etc. And still enjoy some of the remaining strip theatres.

Might still go to a soapland for relax, flirting, BJ, and FS if up to it.

Best.