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  1. #14195
    It was the opposite for the girls at TAE. They didn't bring it up first, I brought it up during the sessions. As you've read in my report, Risa / Hinata acted like it wasn't allowed but I think we're clear that it's because it was a threesome and they would allow it if it was 1 v1. Miki didn't hesitate at all when I brought it up during our 1 v1 session and was happy to FS. I believe soaplands are always FS so I didn't have to ask anything there.
    And just to show how YMMV this can be, I have had several TAE girls bring it up with me first!

    Like he said, really this is just a place to let things happen and see where they go. That leads to the best experiences for sure!

  2. #14194
    First time in Tokyo I was lucky enough to come across some good reviews. I ended up doing my own research and taking some chances too. Hey it seems like fun to explore. Anyway I ended up with a happy surprise ending from a super cute girl who is totally fluent in English. Her name is Emily, and she speaks like a cute young American girl (though obviously better looking and with a bit of a cute accent).

    I got her sent over from this place called Japanese Girls Massage Bamboo Forest. If it wasn't for reviews, I would have no idea. The website just looks like a regular massage business, and it even says "no sexual activity. " It might just depend on your lucky but I had a great appointment here with a 27 year old beauty who made me shoot a ton of nut.

    https://japanese-girls-massage.tokyo

    Well I talked to them on WhatsApp telling where I was and who I wanted. They said Emily would be available in a couple of hours. The time comes and they send me messages: "she's on her way," "she just arrived," finally "she is downstairs please find her in a black dress. ".

    I went down the elevator and there she was. Emily is very pretty, probably taller than average for a Japanese girl, slim but with nice boobs you can see through the dress.

    All of my nervousness disappeared when she gave me a big smile and took me by the hand! We went to my room and immediately she started chatting to me like an old friend. It really put my mind at ease.

    She asked me to pay in the room. Then she asked me to shower. While I washed off, she set down some towels and warmed up some massage lotion. When I came out in a towel, she unwrapped me and had me lay face first. The massage was good, especially due to the warm lotion but also because she was just plain fun to talk to. She spent time in America so she was more familiar than a "pure" Japanese girl might be.

    All the while she would make kind of sexual jokes or accidentally bump my nuts. I read reviews so I kinda expected it. Finally she reached down and just started working my dick and balls. With her sof hands and the warm lotion it felt really amazing. She had me turn over when I was totally hard. Then she slid up her dress and got down to really beating me off. What a master! It was really erotic and I could feel the orgasm building until I finally closed my eyes and let it all out. She seemed really pleased with herself for getting me to cum so much.

    We chatted a little more as I showered again and she cleaned up. Unlike America, I was never upsold or asked for a tip. Once I was clean she rubbed my head until timer went off. Then she said her goodbyes and disappeared into the hotel hallway.

    One of the best massages I ever had. For 20000 Yen less than I pay at home from an older woman who speaks no English. No wonder you guys love Japan!

  3. #14193
    Quote Originally Posted by Runon99  [View Original Post]
    7. The likelihood of an adverse legal outcome is probably minuscule, so in the end this activity is just one more to add to the list of options. One more kink in the land of kinks.
    IDK anything about that pal.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...eign-visitors/

    Japan supposedly has some of the toughest prisons in the world. Even legendary bad ass Chuck Zito was admittedly reduced to tears when he was locked up over here.

    I wouldn't risk illegal activity in a place where the same activity is totally legal. IDK man, that's weird to me.

    Best of luck.

  4. #14192
    Quote Originally Posted by CCRider1008  [View Original Post]
    Alltaken really appreciate the reports. The reports + Traveler advice have fine-tuned my strategy for upcoming trip. Japan is too expensive not to do some research on girl options so you saved me a lot of time.

    From your reports it seems like you asked about the menu, add-ONS and got clear with all the girls at the beginning. Specifically FS chitsu sex. My question is did you need to bring it up or did they bring it up? And in any of your adventures did you just start with fun and let it play out, and see how she reacts to you doing what you want?

    Lastly were you in Japan for mongering soley or did you do tourist stuff; what top 5 things do you recommend doing?

    Cheers.
    No problem, happy to help and thanks for the questions.

    To your first question. It depended on the agency. All the girls at THC brought it up first, either when I asked for the menu or during the session when things heated up. Even with my THC threesome session, the girls brought it up first. I'll post a report about this soon. I've read some reports that say some girls are THC are strictly no FS but that obviously didn't apply to any of the girls I saw.

    It was the opposite for the girls at TAE. They didn't bring it up first, I brought it up during the sessions. As you've read in my report, Risa / Hinata acted like it wasn't allowed but I think we're clear that it's because it was a threesome and they would allow it if it was 1 v1. Miki didn't hesitate at all when I brought it up during our 1 v1 session and was happy to FS. I believe soaplands are always FS so I didn't have to ask anything there.

    Maybe to just keep your expectations in check or for a better negotiating strategy, it's important to point out that I never went into the session expecting FS. Unlike my inability to pop more than once, I mentioned multiple times in my reports that I'm a one-and-done guy and to me, a nice BBBJ with a CIM finish sometimes feels better than FS. So it's never been a disappointment for me as long as I finish so I mentioned that I wasn't disappointed at all not getting FS with Risa and Hinata. I also didn't think I'd want FS when I first saw Miki and was disappointed by her face but her body / service / price pushed me over. I also didn't think I'd get FS during my THC threesome session because they initially quoted a price that I thought was too high. But I think they realized as the session went on that I really didn't care about FS and brought the prices down twice!

    Sorry, that was a long-winded way of saying if you're set on getting FS, I think you'd have no problem with 90%+ of the girls during a 1 v1 session. If you do 3 P, I'd wait until they bring it up first. I'd also be a little more cautious when bringing it up with the girls from TAE vs THC. THC girls felt much more experienced and professional and they know what the deal is. TAE girls are younger and more "amateur" so use your best judgment. Note also that not all girls from TAE are foreigner-friendly. Try to read reviews to make sure the girls you want offer FS.

    To your last question. There was daily mongering but it wasn't just a mongering trip. I did touristy things and even had a couple of business meetings. But it wasn't my first time in Tokyo so I didn't do the big touristy things that required me to buy tickets or get in long lines. In hindsight, I wish I planned it out better and I plan to write a "tips and lessons learned" post soon. As for my favorite things, that depends so much on personal taste and I assume I'm much older than you so it'll seem boring. My lists usually end up looking very random but in no particular order:

    - Just walking everywhere and walking tours: I love to walk around in random areas and try to get a sense of how people live. I was waking up at 5 AM due to jetlag and I'd just go out and walk for hours and hours. Seeing such a crowded city empty and just waking up is beautiful to me. I also like walking tours because they teach me some history and give me a sense of where things are and I make mental notes of what to revisit later. I did walking tours in Shinjuku, Asakusa, Akihabara, General Tokyo (Ueno). I tried to do a walking tour in Kamakura but it wasn't available for the date I wanted.

    - Eating: Enough has been said about the food in Japan.

    - Random encounters (not mongering): I can expound on this if you want but I enjoy making connections via random encounters. I went out for drinks with one of the tour guides. I struck up a conversation with a random girl at a bar and had a good chat sharing drinks. I struck up a conversation with a random girl at a restaurant and we connected. She invited me out to drinks with her friend and we went out in Shibuya and had a good time. These are real-life experiences that I personally find very memorable.

    - Long train rides: comfortable, beautiful, relaxing, gets me away from the crowds in Tokyo.

    - People watching: Tokyo is a cool city with lots of interesting people / fashion and you make of it what you will.

    - Of course, the mongering: Whether it's soaplands or oppai bars or DH services, almost all the girls were so sweet. Regardless of service level, they were kind to me. I still think about the service I got from Hinata at E'toile. I still think about how cute Hinata from TAE was. I still think about how beautiful Fuyuno from THC was. I understand these are subjective and YMMV but they're my experiences.

    Sorry it's not specific things or locations for you to visit. I'd say it's like the movie, "Lost in Translation", just go with the flow and let things happen.

  5. #14191
    7. The likelihood of an adverse legal outcome is probably minuscule, so in the end this activity is just one more to add to the list of options. One more kink in the land of kinks.

  6. #14190
    Quote Originally Posted by JackieMarlo  [View Original Post]
    It seems strange for me as a foreign tourist to approach an illegal street walker when in a country that has hundreds (or more) legal working girl houses, escorts, and erotic massage. What is the benefit of it?
    Possible benefits / appeal:

    1. Illicit thrill of picking up a girl on the street.

    2. Chance to window shop the actual girl you'd be with (rarely the case at soaps or DH).

    3. Chance to be with a younger demographic that you would likely encounter at a soap.

    4. Convenience if you're in the area vs trekking to Yoshihara / Kawasaki / Yokohama / etc.

    5. No ambiguity on services (if you negotiate properly beforehand and / or she isn't a ripoff artist).

    6. Excellent chance to have a good "bad beat" story (if you didn't negotiate beforehand and / or she is a ripoff artist).

    I'm sure there are more I'm not thinking of.

  7. #14189

    The challenges

    And excitements exploring new venues and exotic species.

    I felt like Dr. Livingstone stepping off the boat in wild Africa.

    Per Traveller X s intels, will discuss details of the deals and buy drinks for the standing girls in Shinjuku to learn Japanese possibly with my mouth and hands.

    Quote Originally Posted by JackieMarlo  [View Original Post]
    I understand a guy looking for views on the internet. Or a local guy who knows the scene. It seems strange for me as a foreign tourist to approach an illegal street walker when in a country that has hundreds (or more) legal working girl houses, escorts, and erotic massage. What is the benefit of it?

  8. #14188
    Quote Originally Posted by AllTaken123  [View Original Post]
    Date and Time: January, afternoon.

    Location: Incall to love hotel.

    Agent: www.amateurtokyo.com.

    Name: Risa Mizuki and Hinata Miyagawa.

    Nationality and language: Japanese / Japanese.

    Age: Risa - 22-24, Hinata - 20-22.

    Face: Risa - 6/10, Hinata - 9/10.

    Body: Risa - 9/10, Hinata - 8/10.

    Service. Risa - 9/10, Hinata - 8/10.

    GFE: Risa - 9/10, Hinata - 9/10.

    Damage: 70,000 Yen.
    Alltaken really appreciate the reports. The reports + Traveler advice have fine-tuned my strategy for upcoming trip. Japan is too expensive not to do some research on girl options so you saved me a lot of time.

    From your reports it seems like you asked about the menu, add-ONS and got clear with all the girls at the beginning. Specifically FS chitsu sex. My question is did you need to bring it up or did they bring it up? And in any of your adventures did you just start with fun and let it play out, and see how she reacts to you doing what you want?

    Lastly were you in Japan for mongering soley or did you do tourist stuff; what top 5 things do you recommend doing?

    Cheers.

  9. #14187
    Quote Originally Posted by HotDog666  [View Original Post]
    There's some tik tok videos on my feed which shows this guy just walking around with presumably a concealed camera (which is dodgy) around some part of Tokyo / (Shinjuku?) where there are loads of attractive / very attractive street walkers who are clearly up for business. It's interesting to see this and to hear of any experiences, which don't seem many on this board.
    I understand a guy looking for views on the internet. Or a local guy who knows the scene. It seems strange for me as a foreign tourist to approach an illegal street walker when in a country that has hundreds (or more) legal working girl houses, escorts, and erotic massage. What is the benefit of it?

  10. #14186
    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock  [View Original Post]
    Great report. Crazy about the hotel. Japan is usually very good about not bothering guests with that kind of noise. A little shocking!

    Hinata is indeed gorgeous. Beautiful face. I agree with your assessment on her, but I think her body is great too. Just in a different way than the more model tone of the other. She's genuinely 20 years old too.

    ...

    Almost 100% sure this is what happened here. Especially in the case of a 3 P I would personally wait for them to bring up the option. If they didn't, I wouldn't. YMMV.
    Agree, I still think about Hinata and her cuteness. I could just have her be my girlfriend for a day and I'd be a happy man. And my personal preference is Hinata's body over Risa's. I only rated Risa's higher because I think a lot of brothers might look at both of them and prefer Risa's physique.

    Also agree, this was a stupid mistake on my part. The day before this mongering, I had a 3 P with THC girls and they brought it up first which is a small detail I forgot about. I'll post a report about it soon.

  11. #14185
    Great report. Crazy about the hotel. Japan is usually very good about not bothering guests with that kind of noise. A little shocking!

    Hinata is indeed gorgeous. Beautiful face. I agree with your assessment on her, but I think her body is great too. Just in a different way than the more model tone of the other. She's genuinely 20 years old too.

    I had them take turns sitting on my face while the other continued her BBBJs.
    One of the best things on earth I feel.

    My only guess about what happened is that full service is supposed to be "secret" and the girls didn't feel comfortable or maybe didn't want the other girl knowing that they offer this service.
    Almost 100% sure this is what happened here. Especially in the case of a 3 P I would personally wait for them to bring up the option. If they didn't, I wouldn't. YMMV.

  12. #14184

    Tokyo Amateur. Risa Mizuki and Hinata Miyagawa 3 P

    Date and Time: January, afternoon.

    Location: Incall to love hotel.

    Agent: www.amateurtokyo.com.

    Name: Risa Mizuki and Hinata Miyagawa.

    Nationality and language: Japanese / Japanese.

    Age: Risa - 22-24, Hinata - 20-22.

    Face: Risa - 6/10, Hinata - 9/10.

    Body: Risa - 9/10, Hinata - 8/10.

    Service. Risa - 9/10, Hinata - 8/10.

    GFE: Risa - 9/10, Hinata - 9/10.

    Damage: 70,000 Yen.

    WIR: Yes but just solos.

    Background:

    This was my final excursion of my trip so I wanted to go out with a bang, pun intended. I did my research and chose Risa and Hinata based on the positive ratings. I knew the booking process so I messaged the agency via LINE early in the morning the day before and locked down the time. Easy.

    Introduction:

    I prefer outcall to my hotel but I knew I was going to be in the area so chose the incall option. I showed up 10 minutes before the appointment time. The staff made some calls and gave me a slip of paper that had the love hotel (Hotel Amore) information on it. I was told to go to the hotel and give them the paper to check in and wait until the girls arrived. I walked to the hotel (5-10 minutes) and saw that there was construction going on at the hotel. I didn't think much of it until I checked in and went into my room. The construction was so loud, it sounded like they were banging and drilling directly into my room. I went back out to reception and told them that I needed another room because it was too loud and they denied me. I then messaged the Amateur Tokyo staff and asked them to move me to another hotel and that was also denied. I was quite annoyed and even considered just leaving but the girls arrived as I was standing in the reception area.

    Risa and Hinata are very physically different from each other. Risa is tall and skinny with a tight natural body but I was disappointed with her face. If you look at her photos, there's a reason why her mouth is photoshopped. She has bad, crooked teeth and she had some of the driest lips I've seen which made me not want to kiss her at first. She has colored hair that's lighter than her photos and I think she's going more for the sexy look with heavier makeup then Hinata. Hinata, on the other hand, is short with a soft natural body. If you look at her photos, there is no photoshop and that is her but with straight black hair. I don't even think she had any makeup on. I was pleasantly surprised and I personally find Hinata absolutely adorable. To me, she is the epitome of the cute GND.

    Neither speak much English and we mostly communicated using a translation app. We all couldn't stop shaking our heads at the construction noise and I asked them if they had ever been in a worse hotel room and they confirmed that they had not and laughed. Just my luck.

    Session:

    We hopped in the shower and it was standard with one girl washing my front and the other washing my back. We then climbed into bed with Risa to my left and Hinata to my right. There was initially a lot of the awkwardness / shyness that I attribute to being a threesome with young girls and noob like me. It didn't help that there was jackhammering going on right above our heads. We chatted for a bit before I broke the ice by initiating some LFKs with Hinata, then Risa. Both were receptive but as I mentioned above, Risa's lips were very dry but it got better as we lubed it up with our kisses. The girls made their way down and it was quite a feeling and sight to have both girls licking and sucking on my nipples with lots of eye contact. The girls then took turns giving me BBBJs while the other either played with my nipples or made out with me with DFKs. I had them take turns sitting on my face while the other continued her BBBJs. I then had them on their backs as I took turns DATY with both of them. Not that I expected it but they didn't play with each other at all, but just waited until I was on them or made out with me when my mouth was free.

    A moment of awkwardness here. I thought I had read other reports that Risa and Hinata offer the secret menu so I brought it up via translate. They both seemed very confused at first and I was worried that the translation was incorrect. But they eventually understood but still showed a lot of hesitation and seemed very uncomfortable. At this point, I realized it was a mistake and told them, "daijobou!" and they both smiled and repeated, "daijobou. " My only guess about what happened is that full service is supposed to be "secret" and the girls didn't feel comfortable or maybe didn't want the other girl knowing that they offer this service. I was surprisingly not disappointed at all by this. I had been mongering heavily during this trip so it didn't bother me at all so we moved on and got over the awkwardness quickly.

    I lay back down on the bed with the girls on either side of me and we went back to rotating BBBJs. I was nearing the finish line and I was much more physically attracted to Hinata's face and wanted to make out with her to the finish line. She's a great kisser. She knew I was close and we kissed deeply and passionately until Risa finished me off for a CIM finish. Risa went to rinse while I continued to make out with Hinata. They cleaned me up and we all cuddled up and laid there until the alarm for the shower went off.

    Conclusion:

    Seeing Risa walk around naked at the end, I noticed that she has an incredible body. She's a little skinny for my taste but I bet a lot of brothers here would enjoy her body more than Hinata's which is why I objectively rated her body higher. She's tall, has a toned model-like body with a natural tits and tight ass. Hinata is more natural. Not too skinny and toned but very natural which is my style. I also rate Risa's service higher because she's the one that talks and smiles more. She took more initiative and seemed more experienced. Hinata has more of the shy vibe and her smiles are more shy and sly which I found adorable.

  13. #14183
    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Rock  [View Original Post]
    A long time female Japanese friend of mine declared that she was jealous of us for all the "fuzoku option" for guys over drinks a few days ago. I told her I think there are options for women too. It turned into a long discussion with lots of Googling. As time (and drinks) went on, we settled on trying it together. I thought maybe she would chicken out when sober so I just set it up right then and there.

    Anyway, Ryo set up the scene with aromatherapy scents and slow music. We all bathed together and the giggles turned into moans. My friend has an average body with a huge Bush but I was so horny my dick looked doubly engorged which made me proud of myself for once.

    I never actually touched my friend. Until now we have never had sex either. So that didn't change. But I am thinking of trying this massage again, then after the masseuse leaves putting on the moves. What's the worst that could happen at this point?
    You have moved beyond the 1% of foreigners who have tasted DH, to the 1% of 1%. Many women are bi-curious, obviously those who aren't will just say no. Long ago, I took one of my female friends for paid fun. Like you, we never touched each other since I considered her a friend and didn't want to change things. But for those who do, maybe a second visit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Rock  [View Original Post]
    She has told me she would love to try again but worries about the expense. Even though I paid, I guess she feels like she's taking advantage or something. I will get this together again though.
    Watching a female friend explore her sexual curiosity is a pleasure. Let's reassure them we don't mind paying by doing it again. I even took a kgirl once.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Rock  [View Original Post]
    Funny thing is that "normal women" seem more into it than pros. Maybe pros are worried about losing a customer.
    Women who want this fun, they follow you. The timing of your suggestion after her drunken comments was impeccable. This is the way.

    Quote Originally Posted by AllTaken123  [View Original Post]
    RickRock, what is your life and how do I attain it? Sounds incredible. It reminded me that I need to write my reports on the threesomes I had in Tokyo but it was nothing natural like this. Yes, you had to hire someone but having a female friend who was into this?! Amazing.
    In Japan, there is sometimes a separate menu checkbox for 'regular 3P' (two girls plus you) and 'guest 3P' (one girl plus you and your gf/wife). In the US, it is rare but a few kgirls even offer MFM.

    I write a lot of guides. I actually wrote a guide on threesomes:
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7088619 A tale of two duos

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreams  [View Original Post]
    No point trying super angel, since it may cost more and, like you, I much prefer the company of Japanese women than any other Asians.

    Still hesitating going back wto Luxe with my girl card, or trying another one. Not a bad dilemna to have.
    I think the same. Japanese women are my first goal. Knowing your priorities, no harm in first asking Leicester (pronounced Lester) and Hosekinobako first with Manzoku. Show them your cards and that you "passed Luxe". Just a bit of Japanese goes a long way, I found between 3 months to 2 years of Japanese really made the most difference. After that helps more of course, but it's almost for showing off and advanced flirting. You can "get things done" with just 2 years. To go beyond, I watched lots of Japanese drama, movies, anime which helped with listening and vocabulary. Even oppai pubs improved my speaking.

  14. #14182
    Quote Originally Posted by AllTaken123  [View Original Post]
    RickRock, what is your life and how do I attain it? Sounds incredible. It reminded me that I need to write my reports on the threesomes I had in Tokyo but it was nothing natural like this. Yes, you had to hire someone but having a female friend who was into this?! Amazing.
    Nothing special except maybe that I dedicate a significant portion of my free time to the hobby. She wasn't the first friend who was interested in the game. I find that quite a few regular Asian women are up for a threesome as long as the third is "paid. " Funny thing is that "normal women" seem more into it than pros. Maybe pros are worried about losing a customer.

  15. #14181
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]
    Yes, Super Angel is still there. It's right next to a 2nd smaller Manzoku shop. I once used that smaller Manzoku to get the "first timer" discount a second time an oppai pubs. Of course, you can also just be straight and say it's your second time and Manzoku will call and ask if it's still okay (so far it's always been yes). Or use the discount card the girl gave you (but I didn't want to use her card lol).

    About Super Angel, I saw the same things as you. Girls on a stage with numbers attached to them and you'd call out which number you wanted. Other guys would do the same. You get the girl you want, but it's possible another guy picks her first. Basically a 'cabaret' style oppai pub. The odd thing was many girls at Super Angel were non-Japanese Asian but spoke some Japanese. It's one reason I preferred oppai pubs, I specifically like Japanese girls both flirting with them, their personality, their looks. I know I'm in the minority there but I do. For those curious, some Super Angel information:
    https://maps.app.goo.gl/inRYfQiJjmSdnmvH7 Super Angel Google Maps
    http://www.superangel.jp/ Super Angel website

    I haven't been in 18 years so I am not recommending it just providing info. They've been in business all this time so they must be doing something right. Now that I think back, Super Angel was one of the few Kabukicho places that let me in with 3 months Japanese. So I used it a for few years but moved on to other oppai pubs and fetish shops as my Japanese improved. Again, it's been nearly 2 decades so it could be better, it could be worse, no idea if foreigners allowed today but I was 20 years ago. I never encountered GPS there. The system back then was if you had 10 minutes, you would chat 5 and she would hop on 5. But most girls weren't strict and hopped on early if I asked.

    Like you, I also went Koganecho in Yokohama. I try not to mention it too much since it's permanently closed and was so wonderful / Legendary like New Hot Point was. People wouldn't believe it unless they went there themselves. It was like the RLD of Amsterdam of glass houses where a girl would be in each house you could see. Similar idea to Tobita but even better. 1 man en for about 15 minutes. Majority of girls were Chinese, some Thai, some Euro, very few Japanese. As I mentioned, the Mayor of Yokohama campaigned to shut it down and followed through. I waved to him and he waved back to me once while on campaign. He later resigned in a hostess scandal.

    I will now give some Japanese resesarch tips using Super Angel. If visitors could learn just a handful of Kanji, it would go a long way. In the 2nd image, you can see it says 平日 OPEN 17:50~1:00. The word 平日 (heijitsu) means weekday. So they are open 5:50pm to 1:00am, with the 1am being ~ meaning "whenever" since I might have 5 minutes left of licking left. 土日 16:50~1:00. 土日 (do-nichi) means weekend. Next see a screencap of the website and the highlighted word システム. This is just Katakana spelling out "Systemu" meaning system. If you click on it on any Japanese shop website, it will list prices and a basic summary of how their shop works.

    Last, it shows a coupon discounting 13K to 11K, with 1 set for 40 minutes. I bet if you went to Manzoku, they'd get you 11K or less. But note the pricing, it makes sense for an oppai pub. In fact, I remember paying 10K when I went 20 years ago. Japan has only had 10%-20% inflation in 20 years. Due to competition, you can usually tell what a shop does by its prices.
    Thnaks again.

    No point trying super angel, since it may cost more and, like you, I much prefer the company of Japanese women than any other Asians.

    Still hesitating going back wto Luxe with my girl card, or trying another one. Not a bad dilemna to have.

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