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02-25-25 22:21 #17312Senior Member

Posts: 6779It easy to talk shit when it is not your ass on the line!
If someone walks up to me and tells me I am going to fuck you in the ass. I am going to tell them the only way you are going to fuck me the ass is after you have killed me.
Originally Posted by Tiny12
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The United States of America has no moral standing to decide if a man should bend over and take it or fight to the death. It's easy to type on a keyboard. Who among us have stood against an armed opponent that intends to cause you death or serious bodily harm?
Why are you willing to tell another man he should bend over and take it?
If the Ukraine wants to continue to fight and all we are doing is shipping arms because we have no boots on the ground exactly what is the problem?
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02-25-25 22:17 #17311Senior Member

Posts: 2471Politicians lie a lot. Trump lies more than most politicians. Get over it.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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If he helps end this stupid war then maybe, just maybe, he'll get the Nobel Peace Prize! Wouldn't that be the cat's meow!
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02-25-25 22:16 #17310Senior Member

Posts: 4753So when someone gets a car with a combustion engine and an electrical power train, you and the other leftoids take credit for saving the planet when the person uses the combustion engine 90+% of the time and dole out tax subsidies at the same rate as someone using a pure electrical vehicle? And that is your version of intelligence? Yeah, that sounds about right.
Originally Posted by Spidy
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These are sales of BYD's car, the Han.
Originally Posted by Spidy
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Year China.
Han hybrid Han EV Total.
2020 11,783 28,773 40,556.
2021 30,476 87,189 117,665.
2022 128,524 143,938 272,462.
2023 121,859 105,887 227,746.
2024 141,284 87,429 228,713.
This data just so happens to be the opposite of what you are saying Spidy.
And is this just the Han? Uh no.
https://www.carscoops.com/2023/11/de...***-than-bevs/
It's little surprise then that sales of hybrids grew by 72% during the January-September 2023. To put these figures into perspective, electrical vehicles sales in sale have 'only' grown by 14% this year. Last I checked, 72 is greater than 14.
As for why, there is the cost: In most markets, hybrids are sold at a premium over ordinary internal combustion engine vehicles but that's not the case in China. In fact, some hybrids are cheaper than standard gasoline models and upwards of 23% cheaper than battery-electric vehicles.
Uh, Spidy, why are people going to spend 23% more on a car? Because you say so?
If you are taking solace in Bloomberg Finanical though, Spidy, I would not. Sure they project "battery-electrics still account for the bulk of global plug-in vehicle sales, but the hybrid share is higher than in last year's outlook, and they stay around for longer, peaking at 10% of the global vehicle market in 2030 before falling back as battery prices drop further. " Source: https://about.bnef.com/blog/tracking...lug-in-hybrids.
What they failed to project is the tremendous continued decline in the price of hybrids. In the graph on their report, hybrids are more expensive than pure electric vehicles and within just the last two years, that trend has totally changed.
So as for now as a leftoid, you got "emission free" electrical vehicles running on gasoline with batteries charged by coal plants. That is not good. Your only case for clean air is if people use the batteries more often than gasoline.
And things do not look good there either, from Bloomberg, For private car buyers, studies found a range of 26% to 54% of all kilometers driven in PHEVs were done in electric mode. For company cars, the story is much worse, with the electric drivetrain accounting for just 11% to 24% of total mileage.
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02-25-25 21:21 #17309Senior Member

Posts: 4753Since you did not get the election point, the UK still had elections, I guess it just goes over your head that Churchill did not ban the free press not did he dissolve the other political parties. In addition, it may have gone over your head that the Russians have brought up Zelensky not being a duly elected president. They would likely agree to not bomb for a day if asked if Ukraine did likewise.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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Loony Tooms, those things that you hear in your brain are not my thoughts, they are voices. You really need to get treated for schizophrenia.
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02-25-25 20:21 #17308Senior Member

Posts: 26511Trump is friend with Putin who has photos of him with prostitutes, and USA didn't protect Ukraine. I agree too many deaths, but Ukraine don t have to accept to be robbed lands by Putin and values by Trump, when both are liar and chicken robbers. We all know Putin is a shameful dictator, but also so bad image for USA.
Originally Posted by AxelHeyst
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02-25-25 18:38 #17307Senior Member

Posts: 2471So what do you propose? Send USA Or NATO troops to Ukraine? Get into a nuclear war? Because those are the only ways Russia gives up the territory it's occupying. At least Trump is promoting peace, instead of war "to the last Ukrainian. ".
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02-25-25 18:31 #17306Senior Member

Posts: 2471The pro-Trump Wall Street Journal Editorial Board agrees with you. An excerpt from what they wrote a couple of days ago:
Originally Posted by SubCmdr
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As Commander in Chief, President Trump has the power to fire and promote military advisers as he chooses. The question that occurs after his Friday evening purge of Pentagon leaders is whether he wants personal loyalty or honest military counsel.
Mr. Trump and Defense chief Pete Hegseth relieved six officers of duty, including chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO). Other Presidents have sacked military leaders, notably Barack Obama's decision to dismiss Stanley McChrystal after a magazine reported that he had made critical comments about Mr. Obama.
Such dismissals usually come with a specific reason or performance failure. Messrs. Trump and Hegseth offered no reason for Friday's purge, except for a general assertion that they will make choices based only on merit and war-fighting ability.
In that case firing CQ Brown as chairman of the joint chiefs is unfortunate. Air Force Gen. Brown's legacy includes his 2020 document "Accelerate Change or Lose," warning that air dominance isn't an American birthright and the force would have to change quickly or risk defeat in the next war.
He understands the challenge from China and has thought about how to defeat it, arguing for more modern equipment and embracing new tech. He didn't get as far as the Air Force needs but at least he was pushing. He also cut a low political profile as chairman, a welcome improvement over his press-hungry predecessor, Gen. Mark Milley.
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trump-sw...ts_pos4&page=1
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02-25-25 18:03 #17305Senior Member

Posts: 2471Spidy, you could simply say you made a mistake, and draw my attention to your much more realistic, revised LCOE numbers. It's only by a fluke that I noticed you apparently got the moderator to change your original post, to change the LCOE's per megawatt hour.
Originally Posted by Spidy
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Again, I believe South Australia has the largest onshore natural gas production on the continent. I haven't checked that in a while though. The natural gas they use to generate power would be transported by pipeline from the Moomba Gas Plant in northern South Australia to Adelaide, and maybe they get a little pipeline gas from Victoria. The cost of generating electricity from natural gas transported by pipeline, especially with new combined cycle plants, is much cheaper than using LNG. Your post conveniently omitted LCOE ranges for combined cycle natural gas power plants.
No doubt South Australia may by 2027 produce more electricity from renewables than it consumes. The state has some very sunny and windy places. It will however export the excess electricity, and continue to generate a substantial part of its electricity with reliable natural gas.
And if the state mandates "no more electricity from natural gas", then no doubt South Australia may, say, generate electricity from renewables in excess of its consumption, while importing, say, 25% of its needs from Victoria, produced there by coal fired power plants.
While I won't make any wager involving kissing EihTooms ass in 2050, given that unfortunately he will have either passed away or have a disgusting looking ass by then, I would bet that SA will still be consuming natural gas in 2050.
As to your cost estimates for electricity with 4 to 12 hour battery storage, I suspect they're low. And also suspect there are periods much longer then 12 hours in the DR when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow much. The DR doesn't have the ability to import electricity from a neighboring country, like SA does from Victoria.
As to your next-to-last paragraph, if renewables were the be all and end all, then why are they still constructing coal fired plants in India, China and many other countries? The air quality in cities in those countries sucks big time, and would benefit from less coal. But because of the economic reality they continue with coal. Are people in those countries stupid?
You've got things reversed. If the rich world somehow imposes renewable energy on developing countries without paying for it, people are going to suffer worse lives than they would otherwise. So called "robber oil and gas barons" are not imposing their will on poor countries. Rather, economic reality causes them to make the choices they do. That reality will result in greater consumption of renewables, but the world is not going to abandon fossil fuels for a long while.
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02-25-25 17:32 #17304Senior Member

Posts: 2471Great post. I'm more hopeful than you are Axel, that an end to death and destruction is in sight. Trump, while being firm, improved relations with Russia and North Korea by developing a relationship with their leaders. I suspect you're right, the war in Ukraine wouldn't have kicked off under a Trump presidency. From memory, North Korea ceased medium and long range ballistic missile tests after Trump improved relations, only to start them up again under Biden. I may have problems with Trump's tariffs and what he tried to pull after the 2020 election. But he did a great job with Russia and North Korea.
Originally Posted by AxelHeyst
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02-25-25 17:28 #17303Senior Member

Posts: 7654Yes, no POTUS has ever been so humiliated on the world stage
That was an amazing moment, one of the most shameful in a long list of shameful Trump moments.
Originally Posted by Sirioja
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And I assume very, very few MAGAs will ever know about it. Or understand what happened even if they did ever hear about it on Fux News and the rest.
Or care even if they understood the full implications of it. If anything, love their America-hating lord and savior even more for it.
Which is exactly the premise on which con man Donald Trump operates. It is the reason he is a Repub and could never have run as a Dem. He operates on the premise that his supporters are astonishingly stupid and / or hate America as much if not more than he does.
Old fat con man Trump starts lying in public about the man who is sitting right there next to him. And since Trump has now abdicated the President of the United States' 80 plus year unchallenged position as The Leader of the Free World and has turned his job and the USA into a pathetic laughing stock of an anti-democratic wannabe dictatorship, Macron had ZERO qualms about sticking out his hand, grabbing that fat lying clown's arm and stopping his lie dead in its tracks, correcting him in mid sentence.
Fat lying Clown Trump seemed shocked by the move and then sat there like a snot-nosed 7 year old who just got his knuckles cracked with a ruler, rolling his eyes, but enduring it because he KNEW he was just busted on a huge, critically-important lie.
Then what is fat lying clown Trump's only way he can figure out to ease out of the most humiliating moment any POTUS in history has ever suffered in public on the world stage over such an all-important foreign policy matter and at the HAND of the now presumably real Leader of the Free World, the very man fat lying clown Trump was lying about?
He simply repeated the lie about the man!
What the hell else does he know about how to deal with any and every issue that his golfing is interrupted for him to deal with? LIE, of course.
And every World Leader on the Planet, even the ones from countries Trump would denigrate as "sh*thole countries", knew he was lying and watched him lying about it. Twice. And they now fully understand how shamefully, historically low the once-great USA has fallen in just one month.
For any real American patriot, it was nauseating to watch as well as for anyone else in the world who ever revered and looked up to America or at least the idea of America as a symbol and embodiment of whatever good might be achieved in this world.
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02-25-25 16:02 #17302Senior Member

Posts: 1873Listen Up, MAGA Luddites...
For you MAGA Luddites, still having trouble, keeping up the changing times and EV technology and terminology...listen up and pay attention!
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008
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Let me be clear, once again! When I (or any non-MAGA, with a lick of intelligence) talks about the classification of EVs and hybrids, it means, they fall under the broader classification of "electrified vehicles", equipped with some form of electric propulsion.
Got it...Good!
Oh, and BTW, when the term NEVs (or new energy vehicles) is used, this will refer to BEVs, PHEVs or FCEVs. If you have any further difficulties with auto vehicle nomenclature, may I suggest you take it up with whatever automotive governing bodies makes that call.
My apologies, if that was too much for MAGA Luddites to learn in one post! (...kkkk!)
Hey, as much as that article was more of a Toyota propaganda piece, to sell more HEVs and PHEVs over BEVs, that's really fine and okay by me, if they can bamboozle enough buyers to believe them, like they're trying to do with their hydrogen cars (FCEVs) (...kkkk!). Hey, the more EVs, the merrier, the smart consumers, will figure it out for themselves!
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008
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You should know, HEVs and PHEVs, are just gateway vehicles to BEVs anyways and are merely bicycles with training wheels. Soon enough, their owners will take-off the training wheels and graduate up to owning a BEV, once they see through all the bullshit about EVs, as they get better and cheaper every year.
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02-25-25 16:00 #17301Senior Member

Posts: 290Soooo crazy.
Let's see if he can destroy the world in 1 year.
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02-25-25 13:29 #17300Senior Member

Posts: 26511When Trump doesn t respect USA constitution, Ukrainian constitution which is before Zelensky, tell: no election under war. Trump and Putin are just liar twins, when Putin is a international law criminal dictator and Trump sucking swallowing Putin to get new business with him and lying about money sent to Ukraine, when USA never protected USA, but he tries to rob Ukraine now.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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02-25-25 13:27 #17299Senior Member

Posts: 1245So when are you going over to the Ukraine to volunteer your services fight for freedom? I am not going to hold my breath.
Originally Posted by Sirioja
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The truth is that it has been a bloodbath over there with no end in sight since the Russian invasion began under Joe Biden and this Russian invasion would never have happened in the 1st place if Trump had been President and not the brain addled Joey Biden.
I am very dubious as to whether Trump can actually pull off a real deal between Russia and the Ukraine, ie a lasting peace and an end to all hostilities, but he is thinking outside the box. The alternative is a continuance of the death and destruction for years & years & years. So, I am going to hold off my judgement of this until I see the results. Yes, it might be a no go and nothing comes of it, or it might be another Neville Chamberlain "peace in our times" piece of bull shit, or it just could be a lasting peace where Ukraine survives mostly intact and becomes a part of the European Economic Community (EEC). Who knows? But I am sure we will all find out pretty soon.
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02-25-25 10:41 #17298Senior Member

Posts: 7654I acknowledged the point in your link. What is your point?
Do you even understand what is stated in your own link?
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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It provides beatutiful substantiation, in context, for why Britain did not hold elections during WWII, when the country was being bombed by the Germans. Almost the exact same reason Ukraine has not held elections in Ukraine while Russia Russia Russia Russia is bombing Ukraine with the added bonus of experiencing a Full-Scale Invasion of Ukraine by Russia Russia Russia Russia that Britain was largely spared.
Come on, admit it; until you read my posts about this you have been so insulated inside the Winger MAGA mis- and dis-information bubble created by Russia Russia Russia Russia that you had no idea any part of Ukraine had been bombed by invading aggressor Russia Russia Russia Russia or that so much as a square meter of Ukraine had been invaded by Russia Russia Russia Russia, right?
Seriously. Admit it.
That is the only possible excuse for this truly bizarre MAGA lie you are desperately trying to float.
Tiny hasn't even come up with a link providing "opinions not subject to fact-checking" as proof that Ukraine has not once been struck by a bomb from Russia Russia Russia Russia or so much as had a single Russian soldier cross the borders into Ukraine in, oh, at least 3 years.
That is how far off you are from the truth.
And are you now seriiusly suggesting elections be held in Ukraine over the Internet the way they are only now trying to set up such systems in other countries that, oh lookie here, are NOT currently being bombed and experiencing a Full-scale Invasion from Russia Russia Russia Russia?
Have you ever heard of "No Internet Available" or "No Wifi", "Please Try Again Later"? That can go on for days in some areas of USA today!
Sure, maybe Britain should have conducted elections over the telephone during WWII. I am sure there were intermittently working phone lines here and there throughout London, perhaps one working phone for every 6-7 Brits back then. Assuming the Germans didn't figure out what was going on and start targeting the telephone powerlines and interchanges throughout the country to drop a few bombs.
Ceratainly Russia Russia Russia Russia would never catch on about that Internet thingie. Even with President Elon Musk and his assistant Trump aiding and abetting them every bomb of the way. Ha.
Good lord.
The level of MAGA willful ignorance is just astonishing.

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