Bangkok Reports

[Plant Smoke]

Plant Smoke is in Chiang Mai where massage parlours (at least the one last night) hit you up with a two page menu at the reception. In this case daisuki by lolitas.

That is not any fun is it?

I need a quick Bangkok massage tutorial 101 by someone. I arrive in Bangkok tomorrow:

1. I don't like these "packages" massage parlours try to sell (all inclusive) which gives the girl nothing to work for.

2. I do like paying the establishment a massage fee; where after the session turns into a freelance session with the girl with negotiation.

Please reply with brief summaries about protocol in massage parlours in the Huai Khwang, Sukhumvit, and other areas I need to know about.

Anyone bother heading up to sukhumvit soi 78 to that small area down there?

Thanks a bunch.

[EverythingThai]

8:15 PM. The place is half full already. On the way in 4 ladyboys standing to the left of the entrance and 2 to the right. Inside the majority of the punters are Japanese. There are 3 western guys including me, 2 Indians and about 50 or so Japanese guys. The number of them keeps growing every few minutes. Will report on what happens next in my next post. Quality of talent seems excellent tonight.

[Werqweq]

Heading over in April. This really sounds up my alley. What are the logistics though? Do you ask the provider at the beginning? Do they ask you towards the end? Is it like getting a massage then tagging a qv (quick visit) onto the end? I mean how long is the FS typically? I am guessing it's pretty quick? I am not sure.

I tried to find some posts of mine from summer a year and a half ago, where I posted some detailed reports, but for some reason search only went back to middle of August 2024 for me. Don't know why.

Anyway: I have the normal massage, as that's what I'm there for, and near the end of it either the girl will try to offer a handjob (no interest from me), or I will, ever so gently and slowly, pull her hand down to my dick if I see we are starting to run out of time. Gauging her reaction and depending on whether I want a BJ or to fuck her, I'll then proceed to pull her on top of me if I sense she will not run out screaming rape when I do that. When she's on top of me, I'll basically proceed as if we were on a normal date first date with a girl I don't yet know if I'm going to be fucking or not. I. e. , grinding my dick against their pussy, putting my hands on their ass, brushing my lips gently against them. At this point they know what I want, but will usually ask me anyway what I want.

You need to have some "people skills" to do this obviously, or you will just come of as a creep, or worse. Since I greatly enjoy thai massage and probably have had close to a thousand of them over the years, I have a lot of of experience by now, and also feel when I should very much keep my hands to myself (though, I think that's in less than 1% of the cases). Until you're sure of things, I recommend doing everything very slow and step by step, so the girl can politely reject your advances. Slowly take her hand and see her reaction. Does she pull away in disgust? Obviously you don't do anything more and just lay back and enjoy the end of the message. If she does not pull away, slowly lead her hand to your dick and see what happens. Then slowly pull her closer to you, slowly pull her on top of you.

Like with a dog you don't know. You want to do everything very slow so it does not suddenly bite you until you have enough experience to know what you can safely do and with who.

There's no fixed limit on the FS, but if you pay for one hour of thai massage, obviously you have to finish in that time. I usually start when there's about 15 minutes left of the time, unless the girl is really superhot and I want to bang her for a long time, or unless the girl has herself started before by asking me if I want "special". There will also normally be other customers there, perhaps even farang women, so obviously you can not be banging the girl like you're in one of the many sex shops in the same area. Quiet and discreet, and sometimes some other customer will enter behind the curtain directly next to your mattress, and the girl will refuse sex, often even refuse a BJ, due to that.

[Downandup]

I recommend a walk down soi 22 if that is what you like.

It sounds as if you skipped out on the not so legit massage places in the alley's off Soi 22. Cherry, Kiss, and Honey Bee to name a few.

[MomoFarang]

Hey guys,

I've been connecting with a lot of freelancers on ThaiFriendly. But it's usually a hit or miss. I found girl who offered st for 1500, and if I wanted CIM anal it's 500 extra. BUT if I wanted BBFS another 500.

Now the price doesn't concern me, but just the willingness to so quickly go BB kinda scared me.

I'm not experienced much going BB, and never with a working girl. But. I really do wan't to try it. I'm just not sure how risky these girls are. This one kinda felt like a red flag because she offered without me asking.

What are your guys' thoughts?

Do many / any of you go BB with working girls? Had any. Issues?

Newbie, BB doesn't mean that you're not protecting yourself; PREP HIV is as safe a condom, the risk of bacterial infection can be reduced with Doxy PREp, and even more so with Cefixime + Zythromax PEP. There is no protection against HSV nor HPV, not even the condom works there.

Make an appointment with one of the PULSE clinics, they have all these ready for you.

[Larbmoo555]

Hey guys,

I've been connecting with a lot of freelancers on ThaiFriendly. But it's usually a hit or miss. I found girl who offered st for 1500, and if I wanted CIM anal it's 500 extra. BUT if I wanted BBFS another 500.

Now the price doesn't concern me, but just the willingness to so quickly go BB kinda scared me.

I'm not experienced much going BB, and never with a working girl. But. I really do wan't to try it. I'm just not sure how risky these girls are. This one kinda felt like a red flag because she offered without me asking.

What are your guys' thoughts?

Do many / any of you go BB with working girls? Had any. Issues?

I would always trust your gut feeling. A freelancer immediately offering sex with BBFS for 2000 all-in without even having met you yet is probably not someone you want to do BBFS with, if for no other reason than said freelancer is probably old & fugly. Young pretty girls in Bangkok do not need to resort to such desperate tactics. But in the end it's all about your individual risk tolerance. A lot of people here including myself do BB working girls & accept the risk, but even then it doesn't mean you shouldn't make some effort to minimize the risks.

[ElMexicant]

Accurate information is important. Why don't you tell the board what the owner of the Thermae looks like? You must know who he is since you go there so much.

Only OG vets would know this. All I can say is the boss is a better spy than me. Definitely smiles more than I do. I'll "wait patiently" for the answer to come cleanly to me. LOL.

[EihTooms]

Hey guys,

I've been connecting with a lot of freelancers on ThaiFriendly. But it's usually a hit or miss. I found girl who offered st for 1500, and if I wanted CIM anal it's 500 extra. BUT if I wanted BBFS another 500.

Now the price doesn't concern me, but just the willingness to so quickly go BB kinda scared me.

I'm not experienced much going BB, and never with a working girl. But. I really do wan't to try it. I'm just not sure how risky these girls are. This one kinda felt like a red flag because she offered without me asking.

What are your guys' thoughts?

Do many / any of you go BB with working girls? Had any. Issues?

Don't take any one or two responses here as anything more than interesting anecdotal information or anything to do with a trend or what will probably happen with the next girl you meet and have BB sex with.

But as long as you asked; I have been having BB sex since I was 20 years old, almost 52 years ago; throughout California, Nevada, other areas of the USA, Mexico, Vietnam, Hong Kong, The Philippines, Thailand, a few other places I have probably forgotten at the moment. For sure, by now the count is with well over 2,000 different women. Probably 70% with P4 P / working girls. Virtually all have been BB. The only rare exceptions were when I'd heard there was some new miracle condom out there that "felt like no barrier at all" and so I'd give it a spin. None of those reports and testimonials proved to be true. If I am wearing a condom, very little sex and guaranteed no finish is possible for me.

So I got a vasectomy relatively early in my early 30's and will get a blood check for whatever the latest scare or concern is just to keep track.

In all those years and through the thousands of different girls, from "real" girlfriends to one-night-stands, street girls, beer bar girls, gogo bar girls, online girls, you name it, I have gotten a dose of exactly one (1) STI. It was a case of trichomoniasis that I picked up at age 20 from my then 19 year old university girlfriend. Not a bargirl or hooker. I exhibited no symptoms but she did. She apparently got it from her previous boyfriend.

Anyway, we both took a tablet of antibiotics for about 5 days and all was fine.

That's it. So far. Again, just as it is for you, there is no 100% guarantee that I won't pick up something else with the very next girl I have sex with. Well, not from my GF, of course. Because she's different. LOL.

[EihTooms]

Yeah I think the "asians / Japanese only" thing is a misconception. If you look even halfway presentable (well-groomed + not wearing a Chang singlet or cargo shorts & flip flops), my experience is that almost any shop there is excited to have you. Treat it as if going to a gentleman's club and you won't go wrong.

Most girls I've had from Thaniya did BBBJ at no extra charge. CIM I am less sure about as I usually prefer to finish with a hard pounding in doggystyle, but I have had a few do CIM when I've had trouble finishing. Definitely not guaranteed though nor is BBBJ. I generally ask the girl about BBBJ within the first hour of drinking, figure I have a higher chance at success if they know me first (I. E. , that I'm not batshit crazy & I live nearby so chances of repeat business are high for the right girl). I choose a girl that's pretty enough that even if only CBJ is on offer, I still consider it a good night. CIP I don't do as I've not been snipped yet, hopefully this year. After meeting a girl for 2-3 times I will ask for BBFS. Not just on Thaniya but in general. It's maybe a 25% success rate, sometimes at no charge, sometimes +1000. If a girl allows BBFS she becomes a regular. If not, I get bored of girls after 2-3 times anyways, so not much motivation to meet again without that benefit..

Thanks much for the follow up.

As always, YMMV. But I suspect my results would not be wildly different from yours; go with the flow, work on a relaxed chemistry with the girl, broach the subject of BBBJCIM, probably get one often enough to not to feel totally ripped off. In my case, I have been snipped. But there is no way the girl can know that beyond my telling her. I can show her a recent Negative HIV test result it that part of it matters to her or would make a difference. Which it usually doesn't but you never know.

So for me it would probably be a 5,000 - 7,000 baht gamble with an above average attractive girl that has a, say, 75% chance of ending with me having no sexual finish at all. If there isn't going to be a CIM or BBBFCIP, I'll skip a finish, easily, and save the bullet for another time with another girl, likely my lovely live-in girlfriend later that same evening or the next day. And t sounds like it's the CIM that has the best chance of happening but even that at about a 25% success rate.

Could be something to do to pass the time, meet a new girl or two, throw several thousand baht out there to see what happens and be shockingly, pleasantly surprised if anything close to a Real Blowjob or a Real Sex finish occurs. I'd have no standing to feel ripped off about it unless the girl promised on her life upfront that she would deliver the Real Thing in private. Which we know isn't going to happen in any of those places.

I'll look for Trendy One on that 1st fateful day comes when the stars, extra cash in my pocket, time, opportunity and interest all line up for me to jump in!

[Werqweq]

Hey guys,

I've been connecting with a lot of freelancers on ThaiFriendly. But it's usually a hit or miss. I found girl who offered st for 1500, and if I wanted CIM anal it's 500 extra. BUT if I wanted BBFS another 500.

Now the price doesn't concern me, but just the willingness to so quickly go BB kinda scared me.

I'm not experienced much going BB, and never with a working girl. But. I really do wan't to try it. I'm just not sure how risky these girls are. This one kinda felt like a red flag because she offered without me asking.

What are your guys' thoughts?

Do many / any of you go BB with working girls? Had any. Issues?

A friend used to do it, but he's dead now.

[Mr Enternational]

I've been connecting with a lot of freelancers on ThaiFriendly. But it's usually a hit or miss. I found girl who offered st for 1500, and if I wanted CIM anal it's 500 extra. BUT if I wanted BBFS another 500.

Now the price doesn't concern me, but just the willingness to so quickly go BB kinda scared me.

I'm not experienced much going BB, and never with a working girl. But. I really do wan't to try it. I'm just not sure how risky these girls are. This one kinda felt like a red flag because she offered without me asking.

So if she would have waited 5 more minutes before offering it, then it would have been fine? Dude, it is no red flag. She is a hooker. What do you think hookers are for? She is used to guys asking about this, so she can already tell you what she offers and how much it costs before you ask.

[JoshAllen]

I recommend a walk down soi 22 if that is what you like. . . Anyway, I'd only go to these places (soi 22/ soi 23) if my intention was to get a decent thai massage from a decent looking girl / woman, which may or may not be followed by a BJ or sex, depending on the girl and my wallet. . .

Heading over in April. This really sounds up my alley. What are the logistics though? Do you ask the provider at the beginning? Do they ask you towards the end? Is it like getting a massage then tagging a qv (quick visit) onto the end? I mean how long is the FS typically? I am guessing it's pretty quick? I am not sure.

[Lcale1982]

Hey guys,

I've been connecting with a lot of freelancers on ThaiFriendly. But it's usually a hit or miss. I found girl who offered st for 1500, and if I wanted CIM anal it's 500 extra. BUT if I wanted BBFS another 500.

Now the price doesn't concern me, but just the willingness to so quickly go BB kinda scared me.

I'm not experienced much going BB, and never with a working girl. But. I really do wan't to try it. I'm just not sure how risky these girls are. This one kinda felt like a red flag because she offered without me asking.

What are your guys' thoughts?

Do many / any of you go BB with working girls? Had any. Issues?

In TH if IIRC only been with one lady a few times BB and a couple other ladies the condom broke or came off. Guess I could be lucky but test last month came back clean.

In the States I've been with quite a few working ladies BB but havn't see anything yet. Maybe like 5 different ladies or so and like 15 encounters.

[Werqweq]

Even though one knows the masseuse is going to fuck, it's still sort of cool to imagine I'm with a straight masseuse and wind up convincing her to have sex.

I recommend a walk down soi 22 if that is what you like. For regular massage where the shops are organized such that you can select the girl / woman yourself (rather than book at a reception counter and have no idea who will do the massage), and with enough shops and women that one is likely to find someone cute / pretty enough, this is my favourite soi. HJ is a given as long as you pay the extra (500, though they will ask for more), BJ is common enough, but the younger / prettier will either demand 2,000 or take some convincing to get down to 1,000. Sex with the younger / prettier ones also doable most of the time, but takes some convincing if you don't want to pay too much (2000 will be accepted, 1000, maybe not).

As long as you don't disgust her too much and do not seem to desperate, 1000 is my standard price for sex if negotiating, though I've been forced to pay up to 2,000. If they do not bring up money, but just go with the flow and let me fuck them, I tip them 2,000. I know 2000 is the rate they're usually accepting sex for at these shops, even if they may ask for more if they think you look stupid enough (apparently there are days where I look more stupid than usual), and thus I'd feel bad to give anything less if they "trusted" me enough to let me fuck them without bringing up money beforehand. I don't at all mind negotiating it down to a 1,000 though, as long as we both know the score. I'm guessing about 20% did not bring up the money and just let me fuck them, sometimes not even mentioning it as I was exiting, where I slipped it to them as a normal massage tip.

There are girls from 19 year old and up here who I've banged, though most women working here are in the 30-35 year range I guess. Since most of them are sitting outside the shop, or immediately next to the entrance inside, you choose the one you want.

Most of these shops are immediately before and after the big Marriot hotel, 4-5 on each side, though there are also two shops on the right handside at the start of the soi, but the prices at these two are more expensive, both for the massage and the BJ (one girl there seemed to think she was doing me a big favour by blowing me for only 1,000). Beware that one of these two, the one furthest from the start of the soi, is manned by mostly ladyboys though.

Soi 23, one of the exits / entrances to Soi cowboy has somewhat similar shops, and there sex is almost a given at most shops I'd think, but quality of women is considerably lower, so I rarely looked there. Have seen some pretty ones there too, but it's very rare. Usually I would not want more than a BJ at these shops, and the few times I've gone there they seemed surprised I was offering 1,000 for the BJ (or sex if I wanted), so I'm thinking I'll just offer 500 next time. Problem is I rarely saw anyone I'd like to get a massage from there (plus a subsequent BJ). Always gives me a kind of slum vibe, both the shops and the staff, as well as the street.

Anyway, I'd only go to these places (soi 22/ soi 23) if my intention was to get a decent thai massage from a decent looking girl / woman, which may or may not be followed by a BJ or sex, depending on the girl and my wallet. If you're going to feel you wasted two hours on a thai massage if it did not end in sex, rather than had some of the most relaxing time in the world at the cost of 1/10 of what I'd have to pay at home for thai massage or sports massage, it's not the place as the girls here are selling massage (often with a HJ), not pussy.

[Koryu]

Hey guys,

I've been connecting with a lot of freelancers on ThaiFriendly. But it's usually a hit or miss. I found girl who offered st for 1500, and if I wanted CIM anal it's 500 extra. BUT if I wanted BBFS another 500.

Now the price doesn't concern me, but just the willingness to so quickly go BB kinda scared me.

I'm not experienced much going BB, and never with a working girl. But. I really do wan't to try it. I'm just not sure how risky these girls are. This one kinda felt like a red flag because she offered without me asking.

What are your guys' thoughts?

Do many / any of you go BB with working girls? Had any. Issues?