American Politics

**Elvis 2008** · 03-07-25 14:35

Originally Posted by ShooBree [View Original Post]

What trump is doing is not ceasefire, it's not peace, it's a complete capitulation!

What you're doing is to support Russia's war against Ukraine. If you wanted the war to be over you would defend Ukraine because Ukraine are literally trying to defend themselves and end the war!

What you're displaying is a complete lack of humanity and knowledge of history.

Hitler didn't stop just because the Europeans let him take over the Sudetenland and the wars didn't stop after the West let putin take Georgia in 2008!

Neither did the wars stop after putin invaded Crimea in 2014!

To believe that there will peace if Ukraine just capitulates to Russia is the definition of insanity!

To do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result is the definition of insanity!.

Yes, thanks for the incorrect historical analogy that was brought to us by CNN and MSNBC and the Europeans trying to seize Russian assets. First off, the Nazis are on the Ukrainian side and were launched against native Russians in the Donbas. This was the famed Azov Batallion. By the way, Russia more than anyone was instrumental in defeating the Nazis. So calling Putin Hitler and the Russians nazis makes no sense.

With Crimea, the average Russian has 3 X the income of those in Ukraine. Given the people in Crimea were of Russian desent and Ukraine was killing native Russians and Russians were 3 x richer, it would not take much to get Crimea to say goodbye to Ukraine. If a set of Americans were living in Mexico and being persecuted by Mexicans, and the USA wanted to take over a Mexican province of mostly American people, it would not be a hard sell now would it?

And then there was this from a monger in Russia.

Originally Posted by AntonySun1996 [View Original Post]

Most people in the west think Russians live a miserable life because of the war and are desperate for money, but it's just not the case. Yesterday I chatted with my erotic masseuse during our session and we somehow arrive on political topics and started to talk about Trump, Vance and other clowns. When asked about the possibility of ending of sanctions on Russia, she said: "Fuck 'them (the west). They think they could easily destroy our life, but they failed and want to beg us. We are now better off and can live well without them". Most girls I met recently share the same opinion. It seems indeed Russians become a lot more patriotic since the start of the war.

Not a Putin bootlicker but what they said is not totally wrong. They are not poor, at least not as poor as many westerners think. The hurt of sanctions can hardly be felt in daily life.

When before the war, the Ukrainians and native Russians in Ukraine were stringing each other up and literally crucifying one another prior to 2022, you did not give a hoot. I do not think Russia even wants Ukraine. They just want it to not be a launching ground against Russia. They just want it neutral.

The Europeans want you to buy into the Putin evil schtick so they can steal the $250 billion, really $300 billion in Russian assets in their banks. If the Europeans really thought Russia was a threat, Trump would not have to be ragging on them so much to increase their defense spending.

And you have to be careful who you give your sympathies too. Besides having nazis and stringing up the native Russians in Ukraine, Ukraine is grabbing people off the street and making them go to war. They are NOT the good guys, and neither are the Russians. This is a fight between two bad guys which is a concept you Democratic douches do not seem to get.

However, if I had to choose to live in one country over the other, it would be Russia all day every day, and that is not even close.

**Elvis 2008** · 03-07-25 14:11

Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]

All those articles are just MAGA and legacy automotive propaganda pieces. Only 7 chargers, but yet there's 8,000 electrical stations to rip out...have you done the the math?

Oh brother! Yes, in the MAGA movement, there are people who scoff at EVs in large part due to the fact that they are associated with douches like yourself who want to jam them down everyone's throat. If you had bother to read, you would have seen the person writing the article about Jennifer Grisholm, Biden's DOE head, was an EV owner.

However, the part of the MAGA movement you do not get is to let things grow organically. No one is against an EV if it saves money. I talked to a big MAGA guy about EVs and he has a charger at his work, and I found out another guy has a Tesla and loves it, and he has chargers at home and work. Then there is another guy who has a fleet of seven EVs he uses for deliveries. His payload is not heavy. In fact, he delivers potato chips and he has a set route and knows exactly how far he has to go. His changing to EVs has greatly lowered his fuel costs.

And this is why Spidy you are not just a dumb douche but Spidy the Amazing Binary man. Because while EVs make tremendous sense when you know your route and the distance and can access your own charger, they make no fucking sense for long mile hauls which is what the stupid Biden administration was trying to do.

So no, there is not 2,000 Tesla chargers and 8,000 government ones. Private industry has bought some of their own, and people have put chargers in their own businesses and at home. There NEVER was a need for the government to put in chargers. And it is that action which infuriates MAGA people because it is wasteful and is shoving EVs down the throats of people when they make no sense.

If there was money to be made by putting electric chargers on the highway, private industry would put them in. It is not that hard to get now, is it?

It is pretty obvious you have ZERO hands on experiences with EVs.

**Sirioja** · 03-07-25 14:07

Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]

Uh, wrong. I think on my own. When there is an issue that tries to turn us all into robots, and there is this attitude of you have to be crazy to go against the narrative, I look deeper. Look at all the bullshit that was being fed to us that was true. Biden is sharp as a tack. Kamala is no drunk. Putin is pure evil. Zelensky is an angel. The Covid vaccine is safe and effective. Anyone who thinks Covid came from a lab is into conspiracy theory.

On every issue, with time, the public came over to my side. The one pushing conspiracy theories were the douches reading off the same script and Xpartan, you just bought what the douches are saying.

78% of the American people versus 16% want a peace deal in Ukraine. The percent of people saying Russia is an enemy has gone from 64 to 34%.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT63l0td9bA

And this is what always happens when the facts are on my side. It just takes a while for people to see him. Here is more drivel.

One thing you can deduce from people is the mindless name calling. The fallacy of the Nazi analogy, also known as reductio ad Hitlerum, is a logical fallacy where an argument is invalidated by comparing it to Adolf Hitler or the Nazi Party. Mike Godwin later introduced Godwin's law in 1990, which states that as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

So you have the Democratic douche fallacy. Trump is Hitler. Putin is Hilter. The Putin one is really stupid. Hilter took over almost the whole of Europe in 2 years. Putin has taken over 20% of one country in 3 years. Yet I do not expect any douche to back off.

Meanwhile, this is what Zelensky the angel is up to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjlJoLT1Df0.

The pattern with you and the douches is the same. You pound the narrative and once it is shown to be false, you pretend you did not say what you did. When peace comes to Ukraine, no one will admit to being pro war, you will pretend that you were not one of the biggest war hawks going but wanted peace all along.

That is why I call you the never mind Democrats. I should put a pin in this post and have us come back to it in 2 years.

Most Americans are so low level, kind of sheeps, when must be really no brained to elect a crazy like Trump who was already known, and now put real shame on USA which are now just able for robbering poor and weak in front of the whole world which can judge really no MAGA, but threatening blackmailing, kind of chickens robbers. I would feel really shameful if I was American. I m proud not to be, when Europe keep on supporting Ukraine and Greenland. Criminal dictator Putin showed the world his military is not powerful, not able to defeat Ukraine after 3 years, but now, he feels supported by Trump and keep on killing Ukrainians. Greenland don t want USA. Romania, Moldavia and Georgia also don t want Putin.

**Spidy** · 03-07-25 13:15

When SNL wrote this President Elon Musk skit, and created the dept. of D.O.U.C.H.E., I couldn't help but think, it was somewhat of a nice ode to the king of the D-BAG and Double D-BAG word usage! (...kkkk!)

This one's for the king!
https://www.tiktok.com/@nbcsnl/video...13025016466730

Enjoy!

**Sirioja** · 03-07-25 10:06

Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]

Me neither!

Again, while I'm not aware of any place that has consumers "mandated to buy EVs", it did occur to me, countries that plan to stop the sales of new ICE vehicles, at some future date, will be prohibiting consumer new ICE purchases. Probably won't stop some, from buying a used or new ICE vehicle, still being sold in neighboring countries, without a ban.

For example, Norway's ban starts in Oct, 2025, unlike the European Union's plan to ban them by 2035, joining several US states, Canada, Japan, Singapore, India, New Zealand, and a number of other nations with similar bans). To my surprise, Ethiopia (of all places) became, the first country in the world to ban new sales of ICE vehicles, in 2023.

It begins: Ethiopia set to become first country to ban internal combustion cars

"Ethiopia spent nearly $6 billion to import fossil fuels last year with more than half of that spending going to fuel vehicles. In response, Ethiopias Transport and Logistics" Ministries have announced that automobiles cannot enter Ethiopia, unless they are electric. (!)" https://electrek.co/2024/02/02/it-be...mbustion-cars/

With Ethiopia's population at about 132 million, it will be interesting to watch, how they plan to rollout their transition, to electrical transportation.

EU will change, now postponing thermic and many Europeans don t want but burn now Tesla from facist Musk who is a big liar / faker. Now main point will be military for Europe with UK, when we can t trust a crazy Trump, friend with criminal dictator Putin. If Trump fuck Ukraine for values or lands, then USA have to be banned like friend Russia. Such shame for USA with only criminal Putin and Netanhyaou for support.

**Sirioja** · 03-07-25 09:54

Putin feels very free at the moment for war, killing Ukrainians, under his friend Trump who is more interested to rob Ukraine and Greenland, when USA are just able for robbering now, not more. Really no MAGA, but only robbers. Europe should be a more trustable support for poor Ukraine. Have to live without very small crazy shameful USA now.

**Spidy** · 03-07-25 09:51

Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]

I do not believe anyone should be mandated to buy an EV.

Me neither!

Again, while I'm not aware of any place that has consumers "mandated to buy EVs", it did occur to me, countries that plan to stop the sales of new ICE vehicles, at some future date, will be prohibiting consumer new ICE purchases. But probably won't stop some, from buying new ICE vehicles, still being sold in neighboring countries, without a ban.

For example, Norway's ban starts in Oct, 2025, unlike the European Union's plan to ban them by 2035, joining several US states, Canada, Japan, Singapore, India, New Zealand, and a number of other nations with similar bans. To my surprise, Ethiopia (of all places) became, the first country in the world to ban new sales of ICE vehicles, in 2023.

It begins: Ethiopia set to become first country to ban internal combustion cars

"Ethiopia spent nearly $6 billion to import fossil fuels last year with more than half of that spending going to fuel vehicles. In response, Ethiopia's Transport and Logistics" Ministries have announced that automobiles cannot enter Ethiopia, unless they are electric. (!)" https://electrek.co/2024/02/02/it-be...mbustion-cars/

With Ethiopia's population at about 132 million, it will be interesting to watch, how they plan to rollout their transition, to electrical transportation. Hopefully they'll be taking advantage of their roughly 75% of sunshine days per year with solar energy.

**Spidy** · 03-07-25 09:41

Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]

First off, even the Washington Post has called out what a shitty program the EV charging plan was. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-G...-Stations.html

When people gripe about paying taxes and the government being the absolute worst possible capital allocator, this is what they are talking about: $7. 5 billion in investments for electric vehicles has. In two years produced just 7 charging stations across four states.

All those articles are just MAGA and legacy automotive propaganda pieces. Only 7 chargers, but yet there's 8,000 electrical stations to rip out...have you done the the math?

**EihTooms** · 03-07-25 08:24

Perhaps the greatest of all Repub sucker social issues the GOP exploits to con their Conservative-Repub voters to vote for them and demonstrably against the interests of themselves and the USA, is their unhealthy obsession with trannies.

Now it extends to their thoughts and fever-dreams of tranny mice:

Fact-checking Trump's anti-transgender comments in his address to Congress.
The president claimed the government has spent $8 million making mice transgender.
March 6, 2025

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-...ess-rcna194969

President Donald Trump mentioned the transgender community half a dozen times throughout his address to Congress on Tuesday, though trans people make up an estimated 1% of the U.S. population.
..........
It's still unclear whether the player who spiked the ball and hit McNabb during the September 2022 match was transgender. McNabb has said in interviews that she and her teammates were aware of a trans player on the team, but that players name has not been shared and she has not spoken to the press. Since then, McNabb has become a paid national advocate for state laws prohibiting trans students from playing on school sports teams that match their gender identities. She testified in favor of such a measure in North Carolina, which passed and took effect in August 2023.
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Trump then said trans women are hurting other sports, referring to a case in which a trans woman finished a long-distance cycling race and set a record by five hours, beating a cisgender woman. Trump appears to be referring to Austin Killips, a trans woman cyclist who did win the 800-mile Arizona Trail Race in May.

Trump used the same reference before signing the executive order banning trans women and girls from playing in female sports. Killips responded in an op-ed for the Guardian, noting that she did set a course record, though the previous record was held by a man, who had broken a record set by a woman before him.

Killips said the reason she was interested in the event was because it was co-ed and argued that Trump had used her as a scapegoat.

However, Trump on Tuesday said her record which Killips said has since been broken is demeaning for women and its very bad for our country.

'Making mice transgender'

Trump brought up trans issues again about 20 minutes into his speech, in what many on social media have described as one of the most bizarre moments of the address. He said Elon Musk was helping to find wasteful government spending, including $8 million for making mice transgender.
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The White House released a statement about Trump's comment Wednesday that referenced most of the above studies and a few more, including one that examines the effects of gender-affirming testosterone therapy on breast cancer risk and treatment, and another that studies the role estrogen plays in how gender influences asthma. None of the studies the White House referenced were specifically focused on "making mice transgender," but rather on the health effects of hormones.
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Transgender youth

About an hour into his speech, Trump introduced January Littlejohn, a Florida mom who sued her childs school district for allegedly creating a plan to allow her child to use a different name and pronouns at school without Littlejohns knowledge, which Trump described as child abuse.

A judge dismissed Littlejohns lawsuit in 2022, after the school district amended the internal support plan for her child. The court also said her claim couldnt meet the high burden to show that what the school did had violated her parental rights. Littlejohn has appealed.

Read more about the latter lie Trump told that night to see the parents were never kept on the dark about what was going on with the school and those dreaded "pronouns", the replacement for Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction in the empty skulls of MAGAs as the worst condition the country could ever have to suffer and endure.

**Axel Heyst** · 03-07-25 05:48

ShooBree, Putin is a mass murderer and a psychopath. You won't get any argument about that from me. And your listing of his past invasions of his neighbors is totally accurate. But for the sake of some context, here are some other historical facts:

In 1956, the Soviet Union occupied Hungary. The Hungarians hated the occupation and oppression so they bravely rebelled. The result was the Red Army marched into Hungary and killed around 3,000 civilians, wounded 20,000, arrested 26,000 Hungarians, and sent them to the Siberian gulags. The USA and NATO did nothing. That was under Eisenhower.

In 1968, The Soviets did the same thing again in Czechoslovakia when the people there tried to rebel. Soviet forces, marched right in and killed 137 civilians and wounded more than 500 people. The USA and NATO did nothing. That was under Johnson.

And in 1950 the Chinese communists invaded Tibet and killed 1,200,000 Tibetans and it's estimated that 100,000 Tibetans were tortured to death in Chinese Communist concentration camps. The USA did nothing. That was under Truman.

So now it is Putin who is on the March. His goal is to restore the power and glory of the former Soviet Union and one thing is clear; Putin does not care how many Ukranians or Russians are killed in the process of obtaining his goal of total domination and control over the Ukraine and the former Soviet bloc. So, the question is how does the world ie the USA and NATO stop this slaughter. Trump has a plan. The idea is to get a cease fire in place so American rare mining companies, their technicians, and workers can move into the Ukraine and act as a kind of buffer against further aggression from Putin. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't. If you have a better plan I am sure we would all like to hear it.

Originally Posted by ShooBree [View Original Post]

What trump is doing is not ceasefire, it's not peace, it's a complete capitulation!

What you're doing is to support Russia's war against Ukraine. If you wanted the war to be over you would defend Ukraine because Ukraine are literally trying to defend themselves and end the war!

What you're displaying is a complete lack of humanity and knowledge of history.

Hitler didn't stop just because the Europeans let him take over the Sudetenland and the wars didn't stop after the West let putin take Georgia in 2008!

Neither did the wars stop after putin invaded Crimea in 2014!

To believe that there will peace if Ukraine just capitulates to Russia is the definition of insanity!

To do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result is the definition of insanity!

**EihTooms** · 03-07-25 05:48

As of this writing, President Chainsaw Musk and his Hitler Youth Hackers have verified exactly zero evidence of waste, fraud and abuse in their quest to fire thousands of veterans and defund Congressionally-approved programs that Americans want and / or need.

At most, even those veteran firings and defunding has "saved" less than $5 billion from the USA budget. Which, of course, will cost American tax-payers much more than that when Blue States need to rescue and recover Red States from the mess the Repubs in the WH have made. As usual.

And, no, there is no way Repubs are going to fire enough veterans and defund enough programs Americans rely on to offset the Trillions and Trillions they will add to the Trump deficits for President Chainsaw Musk's coveted additional tax cuts.

'An empty promise. Can't happen. Won't happen.'

https://youtu.be/o6wv-37xVO4?si=RGH1IAREqrt4-cuz

**EihTooms** · 03-07-25 05:20

Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1 [View Original Post]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...rumps-tariffs/

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/...xt-four-years/

https://nypost.com/2025/03/03/busine...ariffs-report/

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/03/tsmc...ip-plants.html

Got to love the way classic Know Nothing, Do Nothing Repubs like Trump rush ahead of what had already been happening under Dems to claim unearned and undeserved credit for it.

With the added spin under Trump being the enterprises in question know all they need to do to get him to stfu is to suggest it was his momentary influence that made their long range plans necessary and hand him a fake "win" by simply doing what they'd been doing or planning all along anyway. LOL.

Fact Check: No, Honda Isn't Opening a New Plant in Indiana Despite President Trump's Claim.

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ca...ump-s-44512444

We've reached out to Honda to see if the company will confirm the reports about Civic production moving to Indiana. The company provided this statement: "Honda has made no such announcement and will not comment on this report. The Honda Civic has been made in our Indiana Auto Plant since the facility opened in 2008 based on our longstanding approach to build products close to the customer. We have the flexibility to produce products in each region based on customer needs and market conditions."

As for Trump's claim about a new Honda plant, the company said this: "We thank President Trump for recognizing our commitment to manufacturing vehicles in America, and we look forward to working with the administration and Congress on pro-growth policies that support a robust U.S. auto industry. While Honda did not announce plans for a new plant in the U.S. at this time, we have invested over $3 billion in advanced vehicle manufacturing in America in just the past three years, with a cumulative total of more than $24.7 billion. We look forward to continuing to invest locally and build quality products in America, as Honda has been doing for the past 45 years.

Now, is this the Trump auto tariff plans he announced one day then buckled and reversed the very next day when the Stock Market reminded him what a tariff is and who pays them? Lololol.

No successful company with more than 2 employees makes or changes long range plans based on what some blithering, blathering, buckling and incoherent numbskull like Trump with less than 2 years of fake mojo left spews out of his pie-hole.

**Axel Heyst** · 03-07-25 04:47

Na-na-na-na-na, na-na-na-na.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JYRQMB-LF1s

**Elvis 2008** · 03-06-25 22:53

Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]

One of the things I like about your posts is you're an independent thinker. We have our disagreements, like on the COVID vaccine and EihTooms. You have severe reservations about the vaccine, while I've gotten six shots. And you think Tooms is loony, while I believe he's intelligent, just sadly misguided and hyper-partisan.

But anyway you call it like you see it, with a good measure of common sense and without regard to what a good Republican or Democrat is supposed to think.

I think Tooms is intelligent. He just lets his partisan feelings overcome any facts. He seeks out any fact that supports his emotional values and ignores all the others. Everyone does that to some degree. He just has ZERO ability to compensate. If you could not be critical of the Democratic party shit show before the 2024 election, you cannot hold any objective opinion. A bunch of Muslims are to blame for the outcome versus nominating a man with dementia and a drunk airhead after him? Come on, man! James Carville said Kamala was 9th string, but Tooms cannot say that.

As for Trump and the tariffs, he is backing off again, and I think he looks badly doing it. Some are speculating now Trump is trying to cause a recession. I do not. This is Trump at his shoot from the hip worst. He really needs to stop it. Among other things, he is going back on a deal he himself made. It is really bad.

**Sirioja** · 03-06-25 21:15

Originally Posted by Sirioja [View Original Post]

Michele Obama could give a much better image than a senile schizophrene threatening blackmailing to rob poor Ukrainians with his friend, criminal dictator Putin, also threatening Greenland to rob also them. USA are just behaving like robbers now, when they can t compete with EU and cheap China for economics. But Hamas won t be afraid of a old senile bullshiting. The world have now to protect versus shameful USA under robber, crazy Trump.

Shameful, not respectable Trump put shame and not trustable on USA. Our world have now to boycott USA, for same like Russia.