American Politics

[SubCmdr]

Musk is Trump's fall guy. How an otherwise brilliant man does not realize that is beyond me. The seduction of power is great. The only reason I would want to be POTUS is AIR FORCE ONE!

And to get my dick sucked in the WhiteHouse. But the ***** has to swallow.

[Axel Heyst]

The very definition of a Repub Social Issue Sucker.

Honestly Mr. Tooms, I don't know what the hell you are talking about or why you quoted my post which was specifically addressed to something Xpartan had referred to me in his post. I tried reading what you wrote, and you seem very angry and upset about something. Could it be that deep down you know your side is losing the battle? It's only politics mate. You should roll with it like Governor Newsom. The Gov knows which way the wind is blowing, and he definitely wants to be the next president in 2026 although personally, I prefer Fetterman. KKK /555.

"Gavin Newsom breaks with Democrats on trans athletes in sports" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3A7fg23dz4&t=2s.

Sorry, I couldn't find Newsom's podcast so Charlie Kirk's (Maga Man) will have to do. Same interview. Check it out or go shag a lovely, young Thai girl whichever you prefer.

[Sirioja]

Yes the EU has allowed some relief on payments by those that haven't meet CO2 emission requirements, but have not yet moved, with regards to ending the ban on ICE vehicles for 2035.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwin...5-ev-monopoly/

No tears for Tesla here! It's too bad the company and car owners have to suffer!

But I love the creativity, where it has been reported, that many Tesla car owners, are for example, rebadging their vehicles with Audi, Honda...etc, badges to throw-off would be anti-Musk vandalism (...kkkk!)

Already postponing over 2025 and now main target of Europe is military, not anymore EV which will fall in big market Europe, except Norway. Audi, Porsche, Stellantis already returned to thermic Europeans prefer than chinese EV and hating Musk Tesla now, examples: new A6 is thermic and Tesla sales divided by 2 on this year. I prefer so much to hear engine noise and oil smell and EV are not performing for me, I laugh at Teslas on German motorways, when they hear my engine. What is Musk will make fall Tesla and robber Trump start to give inflation to Americans who start to worry and should follow economics recession because of all crazy shameful Trump bullshits, playing only threatening blackmailing robber and putting shame on USA. Trump should make USA falling, with shame, no MAGA. Europe used to thank USA for the past, but can t trust not respectable Trump / Vance now. Zelensky did behave very respectfully with their lack of respect, but behaving just like robbers, not protecting anymore freedom, but preferring to lick Putin, to find new business, when losing versus Europe and China.

[Spidy]

EU will change, now postponing thermic and many Europeans don t want but burn now Tesla from facist Musk who is a big liar / faker.

Yes the EU has allowed some relief on payments by those that haven't meet CO2 emission requirements, but have not yet moved, with regards to ending the ban on ICE vehicles for 2035.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwin...5-ev-monopoly/

No tears for Tesla here! It's too bad the company and car owners have to suffer!

But I love the creativity, where it has been reported, that many Tesla car owners, are for example, rebadging their vehicles with Audi, Honda...etc, badges to throw-off would be anti-Musk vandalism (...kkkk!)

[Spidy]

Oh brother! Yes, in the MAGA movement, there are people who scoff at EVs in large part due to the fact that they are associated with douches like yourself who want to jam them down everyone's throat.

(...kkkk!) You're so blinded from you own fake QAnon\MAGA imbecilic nationalism, is it any wonder that, most cult QAnon\MAGA knuckleheads, need to first check with your American Fuhrer, before making a decision to fart, let alone make a decision on buying an EV, by yourself.

And before, you continue to tell more lies, please, please, please...post one time (just one time), where I've told anyone here, what to buy, or "jam them down everyone's throat" as you are idiotically suggesting. But rest assured, I will debunk dis-misinformation, I deem incorrect.

I've repeatedly, told you and others, on several occasions, "I don't freakin' care what you wanna drive or buy...", as it would be moronic (as you, Elvis 2008 have done) of anyone here, to think, that what they prefer to drive or buy, matters to the degree, it will sway/change what the overall market trends are showing.

Don't confuse or mistake my enthusiasm, for greener, cleaner, energy efficient, electrifying technologies and the trends towards the electrification of our industries (where possible) and of just about "EVERYTHING ELSE", as we decarbonize away from fossil fuels, as some silly battle cry of "...buy EVs, buy EVs, buy", because it's NOT!

It just so happens, I have an interest, with an especially keen eye on the electrification of transportation and the geo-eco-socio-policical trends and impact of electrification, as the world moves forward towards (or MAGA backwards from) greener solutions and a faster growing electrification of industries, around the world and what it all means.

But once again, leave it to MAGA pettiness and short-sightedness (which was how this exchange of posts began, with the American Fuhrer's pettiness), to think that the markets and global trends, care much, for their singular choices in vehicles.

Pure hubris at it's best!

[EihTooms]

It's impossible to not see the resemblance between Hitler's behavior and putin's behavior for the last 17 years.

I called putin out for it eleven years ago. The rhetoric, the lies, the wars.

It's a match. Its indistinguishable.

You really should go back and listen to it.

There are a lot of nazis in russia, I don't understand why you want to repeat putin's propaganda.

The whole attempt to accuse the Ukranians of being nazis is ridiculous considering the fact that President Zelensky is Jewish.

Zelensky received almost 75% of the votes in the presidential election! Is that the reason why trump hates him and Ukraine so much? Trump is simply jealous that he will never be as popular as Zelensky?

Anyways, it reminds me of how they used to lie that the Berlin Wall was an "Anti-Fascist Protection Rampart" while in reality they shot anyone that tried to get over to the West.

The Russians are literally war criminals, the Russians started this war but the Ukrainians are "bad guys" because they defend their country.

Come on, in what universe am I supposed to believe that BS?

The Russians are forcing civilians (both in russia and occupied areas of Ukraine) to participate in their illegal invasion and you want to put the blame on Ukraine.

If the Russians returns back home to russia the war will end.

The Ukrainians are already at home, they wish! They pray! They truly do wish that they could end the war simply by going home!

Even Russian men are fleeing their country to avoid being forced to be a part of the war in Ukraine.

Meanwhile Russian women flee abroad to work as prostitutes because putin butchered the russian economy.

Putin is an evil guy.

You have to understand how ludicrous this is.

Let me give you the European perspective: Russia's current neighbors never attacked russia!

No one in Russia is afraid of Ukraine, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia or Georgia!

It is laughable to even consider that russian propaganda.

The Russians are the original liars and propagandists, I wonder if they were the ones who taught Donald Trump how to lie?

Let me assure you this; there are a lot of people in these countries that are very afraid of Russia. And we see now in Ukraine why they are afraid of Russia.

That's why they joined NATO. The Baltics could never defend themselves against russia. Russia's neighbors do not ask for foreign troops to come to their countries because they think it's funny or because they want to become the target of Russia's nuclear weapons! They do it because they are afraid of an aggressive russia.

Russia has invaded, occupied and oppressed people all over Eastern and Central Europe.

Some things never change, and that's one of those things.

Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia are small countries with small economic muscles. They depend on NATO. They depend on nuclear deterrence.

The support of USA made them safe. The support of USA made them able to transform their economies to what we see today. Healthy countries, still undoubtedly behind the US, but a far cry from the mess it was during the Soviet Union and when they first began taking their stumbling steps in freedom.

I remember when I was a young boy that my school sent Christmas presents to the Baltics. It was not much, much of it was simple hygiene articles but it also included a little box of candy.

This memory brings me a lot of shame as I remember telling my mother that we shouldn't bother to send any package.

In my stupid, spoiled and childish mind I couldn't fathom how they could possibly care or be thankful for schampo, pencils and a little box of candy.

I'm thankful today that my mother had so much better judgement and simply ignored my opinion.

We saw in Georgia 2008 how Russia treats it's neighbors.

We saw in Crimea and Donbas 2014 how Russia treats it's neighbors.

Today we see how russian soldiers are murdering innocent people all over Ukraine!

There's nothing to discuss, there is no doubt about what's going on.

Putin is a war criminal, russia must end the war, Ukraine deserves peace and Zelensky is a war hero!

But I have to admit that I'the also rather live in Russia as I wouldn't have to worry about getting murdered or invaded by my neighboring country.

Either that or Trump is less capable of understanding the longterm and recent history of Russia in this regard than he is about telling the truth about anything of importance. Which means 100% incapable of it.

This is why his and his VP, Shady Pants, performance and treatment of Zelenskyy in the Oval Office revealed both of them and every other Trump lackey and supporter to be the laughing stock at best and mortal enemies of democracy and the Free World at worst:

[EihTooms]

I can't recall exactly how I came upon this video. I just remember vaguely fooling around on YouTube premium last night high on a joint and there it was. Mea culpa. I SHOULD of known better before I reposted it here.

Of course, I noticed Paul's "younger" look in the video, but I did not question the authenticity of the posting mainly because I wrongly attributed Paul's "younger" look to 2016 or 2017 and not 2010 or 2012 when the video was actually made. There were other tells on the video as well which should have raised more red flags plus I have seen McCartney publicly scorn Trump in the past. What can I say? I was bamboozled by the internet plain and simple AND I admit it! It was a stupid mistake. My only defense is that I did not post this BS on purpose or try to mislead anybody. Take a look at the attached pic from the video and the caption at the bottom which reads, "Paul McCartney on singing with Trump". Regardless, I fucked up and I feel embarrassed by being so easily corndogged (fucked in the ass) by the internet.

Actually, I am surprised the scammers didn't apply AI to make him look like he does today.

[ShooBree]

Yes, thanks for the incorrect historical analogy that was brought to us by CNN and MSNBC and the Europeans trying to seize Russian assets. First off, the Nazis are on the Ukrainian side and were launched against native Russians in the Donbas. This was the famed Azov Batallion. By the way, Russia more than anyone was instrumental in defeating the Nazis. So calling Putin Hitler and the Russians nazis makes no sense.

With Crimea, the average Russian has 3 X the income of those in Ukraine. Given the people in Crimea were of Russian desent and Ukraine was killing native Russians and Russians were 3 x richer, it would not take much to get Crimea to say goodbye to Ukraine. If a set of Americans were living in Mexico and being persecuted by Mexicans, and the USA wanted to take over a Mexican province of mostly American people, it would not be a hard sell now would it?

And then there was this from a monger in Russia.

When before the war, the Ukrainians and native Russians in Ukraine were stringing each other up and literally crucifying one another prior to 2022, you did not give a hoot. I do not think Russia even wants Ukraine. They just want it to not be a launching ground against Russia. They just want it neutral.

The Europeans want you to buy into the Putin evil schtick so they can steal the $250 billion, really $300 billion in Russian assets in their banks. If the Europeans really thought Russia was a threat, Trump would not have to be ragging on them so much to increase their defense spending.

And you have to be careful who you give your sympathies too. Besides having nazis and stringing up the native Russians in Ukraine, Ukraine is grabbing people off the street and making them go to war. They are NOT the good guys, and neither are the Russians. This is a fight between two bad guys which is a concept you Democratic douches do not seem to get.

However, if I had to choose to live in one country over the other, it would be Russia all day every day, and that is not even close.

It's impossible to not see the resemblance between Hitler's behavior and putin's behavior for the last 17 years.

I called putin out for it eleven years ago. The rhetoric, the lies, the wars.

It's a match. Its indistinguishable.

You really should go back and listen to it.

There are a lot of nazis in russia, I don't understand why you want to repeat putin's propaganda.

The whole attempt to accuse the Ukranians of being nazis is ridiculous considering the fact that President Zelensky is Jewish.

Zelensky received almost 75% of the votes in the presidential election! Is that the reason why trump hates him and Ukraine so much? Trump is simply jealous that he will never be as popular as Zelensky?

Anyways, it reminds me of how they used to lie that the Berlin Wall was an "Anti-Fascist Protection Rampart" while in reality they shot anyone that tried to get over to the West.

The Russians are literally war criminals, the Russians started this war but the Ukrainians are "bad guys" because they defend their country.

Come on, in what universe am I supposed to believe that BS?

The Russians are forcing civilians (both in russia and occupied areas of Ukraine) to participate in their illegal invasion and you want to put the blame on Ukraine.

If the Russians returns back home to russia the war will end.

The Ukrainians are already at home, they wish! They pray! They truly do wish that they could end the war simply by going home!

Even Russian men are fleeing their country to avoid being forced to be a part of the war in Ukraine.

Meanwhile Russian women flee abroad to work as prostitutes because putin butchered the russian economy.

Putin is an evil guy.

You have to understand how ludicrous this is.

Let me give you the European perspective: Russia's current neighbors never attacked russia!

No one in Russia is afraid of Ukraine, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia or Georgia!

It is laughable to even consider that russian propaganda.

The Russians are the original liars and propagandists, I wonder if they were the ones who taught Donald Trump how to lie?

Let me assure you this; there are a lot of people in these countries that are very afraid of Russia. And we see now in Ukraine why they are afraid of Russia.

That's why they joined NATO. The Baltics could never defend themselves against russia. Russia's neighbors do not ask for foreign troops to come to their countries because they think it's funny or because they want to become the target of Russia's nuclear weapons! They do it because they are afraid of an aggressive russia.

Russia has invaded, occupied and oppressed people all over Eastern and Central Europe.

Some things never change, and that's one of those things.

Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia are small countries with small economic muscles. They depend on NATO. They depend on nuclear deterrence.

The support of USA made them safe. The support of USA made them able to transform their economies to what we see today. Healthy countries, still undoubtedly behind the US, but a far cry from the mess it was during the Soviet Union and when they first began taking their stumbling steps in freedom.

I remember when I was a young boy that my school sent Christmas presents to the Baltics. It was not much, much of it was simple hygiene articles but it also included a little box of candy.

This memory brings me a lot of shame as I remember telling my mother that we shouldn't bother to send any package.

In my stupid, spoiled and childish mind I couldn't fathom how they could possibly care or be thankful for schampo, pencils and a little box of candy.

I'm thankful today that my mother had so much better judgement and simply ignored my opinion.

We saw in Georgia 2008 how Russia treats it's neighbors.

We saw in Crimea and Donbas 2014 how Russia treats it's neighbors.

Today we see how russian soldiers are murdering innocent people all over Ukraine!

There's nothing to discuss, there is no doubt about what's going on.

Putin is a war criminal, russia must end the war, Ukraine deserves peace and Zelensky is a war hero!

But I have to admit that I'the also rather live in Russia as I wouldn't have to worry about getting murdered or invaded by my neighboring country.

[Axel Heyst]

Didn't you even notice how much younger Paul is in that clip compared to the last 9 years? He was talking about President Obama, not so-called president Trump.

I can't recall exactly how I came upon this video. I just remember vaguely fooling around on YouTube premium last night high on a joint and there it was. Mea culpa. I SHOULD of known better before I reposted it here.

Of course, I noticed Paul's "younger" look in the video, but I did not question the authenticity of the posting mainly because I wrongly attributed Paul's "younger" look to 2016 or 2017 and not 2010 or 2012 when the video was actually made. There were other tells on the video as well which should have raised more red flags plus I have seen McCartney publicly scorn Trump in the past. What can I say? I was bamboozled by the internet plain and simple AND I admit it! It was a stupid mistake. My only defense is that I did not post this BS on purpose or try to mislead anybody. Take a look at the attached pic from the video and the caption at the bottom which reads, "Paul McCartney on singing with Trump". Regardless, I fucked up and I feel embarrassed by being so easily corndogged (fucked in the ass) by the internet.

[EihTooms]

A social phenonium

Good morning, Xpartan. Your post put a smile on my face. This is not meant to be a dig, but I find it an interesting that otherwise intelligent, left leaning persons like yourself can't fathom how people like me can support Trump. Here is a tip, start with the idea that the larger a government becomes the less freedom its citizens will have. Then take a closer look at the social / cultural bubble that affluent liberals exist in, in places like the upper west side of Manhattan, Hollywood, and Boca Raton. KKK. Many, if not a majority of these "liberals" do not / will not socialize with people of their own economic bracket who do not go along with their group sync and thus are shocked when they discover that many of their most cherished beliefs are opposed by people as successful and affluent as themselves.

There is a funny scene in 3 season, episode 3 of White Lotus where three affluent, long time, but distant female friends (farangs) are having after dinner drinks at the 6 star hotel in southern Thailand when the conversation unexpectedly turns to politics and one of the friends reveals that she voted for Trump. The other 2 friends are polite about it, but they can't hide their surprise and disapproval. Later when the two girlfriends are alone, they agree with each other that their friend is out of her gordita and their dismay that their friend has betrayed women's rights. It's a funny and revealing scene.

Check it out although the jury is still out on whether season 3 is any good or not. Season 2 was must see TV, however. The story line in Season 2 revolved around 2 high end Sicilian hookers. It was very entertaining, and the ending of Season 2 was classic.

The very definition of a Repub Social Issue Sucker.

Imagine someone so blinded by their indoctrination into that Sucker Social Issue mindset that he apparently hasn't even noticed that Trump surrounds himself with billionaires in his Cabinet, as the Real Acting President, in and around his life who, like him, have never and would never rub shoulders with his support base, refusing to touch those "dirty, disgusting people. ".

Not a word about the millions upon millions of Americans who lost their jobs thanks to his and his fellow Repubs' disastrous economic policies and stewardship.

Or the violent cop-attacking and killing mob of Insurrectionists he led into battle on American Soil in his War Against America.

Or Trump's record breaking Trillions added to the deficit. As is typical of many Repub potuses.

Or his increasing the size of the Federal Governmrnt by at least two hertofore unheard of "Cabinet" departments. Again, as Repub potuses' disastrous policies typically grow the size of government rather than shrink it.

No. It all comes down to some idiotic sucker social issue impression fed to him on some silly TV show.

Former Pence advisor says Trump referred to supporters as disgusting people.
Olivia Troye is backing Harris-Walz saying they will take us down a better path
Aug. 21, 2024

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2599762.html

Olivia Troye, a lifelong Republican and former advisor to ex-Vice President Mike Pence, said that she is speaking at the Democratic National Convention because she does not want Donald Trump to be president again claiming that he treated his supporters poorly.
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"I was in the room when Trump said I dont want to shake hands with those dirty people, those disgusting people, Troye said, referencing an alleged moment in 2020 when Trump said he was grateful the pandemic caused restrictions on handshakes.

Troye said Trump doesnt care about his supporters and has complete disregard.

"What really breaks my heart is just how much they rally around someone who just doesnt care about them, Troye told Jim Acosta.

[Sirioja]

"Most" Americans have never supported or voted for Donald Trump. "Most" of the American electorate has never voted for him. In fact, most of the American electorate voted for "NOT Trump" last November.

When I accurately point out that as little as less than a single percentage point shift from Trump to Harris in just 3 swing states would have produced a President Harris instead of a so-called president Trump, very, very likely made up entirely by a primarily one-issue demographic of angry Muslims who had been mobilized by their Muslim Community leaders in exactly those 3 States to deny anyone from the Biden Administration the presidency due to Netanyahu timing his cease-fire pause until AFTER the election, I am only referring the deciding factor regarding The Players On The Field, the voters who actually voted.

And that was about as razor-thin a margin of victory vs defeat for Trump as one can imagine; LESS than a one percentage point shift from a demo that wasn't even voting on the economy, immigration, the price of eggs, trannies or any of the other issues typically pro-Repub Mainstream Media wanted everyone to care about.

However, when you factor in The Players Not On The Field, that would include millions of 2020 Biden voters who just decided not to play / vote this time around. And very, very likely for the usual reason people don't bother to vote; they are fine with their financial, economic and job situation and have been bamboozled by classic pro-Repub pretend "Bothsider / Neithersiders" into the mistaken belief that it doesn't really matter who is president.

Well, I think and hope this time around the vast majority of the American electorate will learn a hard lesson that, how about that, I guess it really and truly does matter who is president after all. And quite a lot.

Unfortunately, Trump won all swinging states Biden won versus him. Result is a crazy who fucked USA constitution, capitol and police with deaths on 2021 , was elected by Americans, even latinos and black he hates, just crazy. Trump is a schizophrene and senile, not remembering what he told 5 minutes ago, example: Zelensky is a dictator, or people eating pets in USA, only able to threaten and blackmail, putting shame on USA. I wish he will make fall USA, when others have now to resist to USA behavior. Nobody can trust crazy shameful Trump.

[Elvis 2008]

Most Americans are so low level, kind of sheeps, when must be really no brained to elect a crazy like Trump who was already known, and now put real shame on USA which are now just able for robbering poor and weak in front of the whole world which can judge really no MAGA, but threatening blackmailing, kind of chickens robbers. I would feel really shameful if I was American. I m proud not to be, when Europe keep on supporting Ukraine and Greenland. Criminal dictator Putin showed the world his military is not powerful, not able to defeat Ukraine after 3 years, but now, he feels supported by Trump and keep on killing Ukrainians. Greenland don t want USA. Romania, Moldavia and Georgia also don t want Putin.

And most Americans think France is so irrelevant we do not even know or care who your president is. What does that tell you? France and Europe are irrelevant to most Americans. Here you are calling most Americans dumb when we have saved your bacon twice and are still paying for your defense.

We have 2,000 tanks and so do the Russians. The French? A measly 175. The truth is you want to steal Russia's $300 billion in your banks and want us to protect your sorry asses if you do that. Nope, I am not for protecting a bunch of damned thieves. You or Ukraine steal that money and you all are on your own.

There was this monger on the ground in Russia who posted this:

Having realistic expectation is the first key to success. Russia is no longer in 90's when a super model would fuck you for a few bucks enough to buy a bread, but it still has many to offer.

IMHO, the level of women you can get with 200 usd in Russia is far better than those you can get in the west with this amount of money. Sometimes if you are lucky you can get real gems, which are rare in countries like US or Switzerland.

Most people in the west think Russians live a miserable life because of the war and are desperate for money, but it's just not the case. Yesterday I chatted with my erotic masseuse during our session and we somehow arrive on political topics and started to talk about Trump, Vance and other clowns. When asked about the possibility of ending of sanctions on Russia, she said: "Fuck 'them (the west). They think they could easily destroy our life, but they failed and want to beg us. We are now better off and can live well without them". Most girls I met recently share the same opinion. It seems indeed Russians become a lot more patriotic since the start of the war.

Not a Putin bootlicker but what they said is not totally wrong. They are not poor, at least not as poor as many westerners think. The hurt of sanctions can hardly be felt in daily life.

It is not just Russia who does not need Europe. The USA does not either, and you are running around saying we are a bunch of sheep when you are ripping us off? Go soak your head!

[EihTooms]

Most Americans are so low level, kind of sheeps, when must be really no brained to elect a crazy like Trump who was already known, and now put real shame on USA which are now just able for robbering poor and weak in front of the whole world which can judge really no MAGA, but threatening blackmailing, kind of chickens robbers. I would feel really shameful if I was American. I m proud not to be, when Europe keep on supporting Ukraine and Greenland. Criminal dictator Putin showed the world his military is not powerful, not able to defeat Ukraine after 3 years, but now, he feels supported by Trump and keep on killing Ukrainians. Greenland don t want USA. Romania, Moldavia and Georgia also don t want Putin.

"Most" Americans have never supported or voted for Donald Trump. "Most" of the American electorate has never voted for him. In fact, most of the American electorate voted for "NOT Trump" last November.

When I accurately point out that as little as less than a single percentage point shift from Trump to Harris in just 3 swing states would have produced a President Harris instead of a so-called president Trump, very, very likely made up entirely by a primarily one-issue demographic of angry Muslims who had been mobilized by their Muslim Community leaders in exactly those 3 States to deny anyone from the Biden Administration the presidency due to Netanyahu timing his cease-fire pause until AFTER the election, I am only referring the deciding factor regarding The Players On The Field, the voters who actually voted.

And that was about as razor-thin a margin of victory vs defeat for Trump as one can imagine; LESS than a one percentage point shift from a demo that wasn't even voting on the economy, immigration, the price of eggs, trannies or any of the other issues typically pro-Repub Mainstream Media wanted everyone to care about.

However, when you factor in The Players Not On The Field, that would include millions of 2020 Biden voters who just decided not to play / vote this time around. And very, very likely for the usual reason people don't bother to vote; they are fine with their financial, economic and job situation and have been bamboozled by classic pro-Repub pretend "Bothsider / Neithersiders" into the mistaken belief that it doesn't really matter who is president.

Well, I think and hope this time around the vast majority of the American electorate will learn a hard lesson that, how about that, I guess it really and truly does matter who is president after all. And quite a lot.

[EihTooms]

Na-na-na-na-na, na-na-na-na.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JYRQMB-LF1s

Didn't you even notice how much younger Paul is in that clip compared to the last 9 years? He was talking about President Obama, not so-called president Trump.

[Axel Heyst]

What boggles the mind is that Axel is not your typical MAGA cultist. When Elvis spews his own brand of nonsense, you know where it comes from -- Elvis is a conspiracy theorist, he's a guy MAGA IS MADE OF. But Axel is not like that. I've communicated with him, he's a worldly, intelligent person. How is it possible that people like that can't see Trump's incessant lies and empty boasts, his crazy rants and off-the-charts boorishness worthy of a drunken vagrant, his fantastical stories from his own alternative universe?

Good morning, Xpartan. Your post put a smile on my face. This is not meant to be a dig, but I find it an interesting that otherwise intelligent, left leaning persons like yourself can't fathom how people like me can support Trump. Here is a tip, start with the idea that the larger a government becomes the less freedom its citizens will have. Then take a closer look at the social / cultural bubble that affluent liberals exist in, in places like the upper west side of Manhattan, Hollywood, and Boca Raton. KKK. Many, if not a majority of these "liberals" do not / will not socialize with people of their own economic bracket who do not go along with their group sync and thus are shocked when they discover that many of their most cherished beliefs are opposed by people as successful and affluent as themselves.

There is a funny scene in 3 season, episode 3 of White Lotus where three affluent, long time, but distant female friends (farangs) are having after dinner drinks at the 6 star hotel in southern Thailand when the conversation unexpectedly turns to politics and one of the friends reveals that she voted for Trump. The other 2 friends are polite about it, but they can't hide their surprise and disapproval. Later when the two girlfriends are alone, they agree with each other that their friend is out of her gordita and their dismay that their friend has betrayed women's rights. It's a funny and revealing scene.

Check it out although the jury is still out on whether season 3 is any good or not. Season 2 was must see TV, however. The story line in Season 2 revolved around 2 high end Sicilian hookers. It was very entertaining, and the ending of Season 2 was classic.