Jakarta

[Delbo1]

I rarely post anymore because posts like this piss me off so much and the information on this forum is so far from reality it is disturbing!

First: You arrive in a new country start asking people how much they make a month. In Indonesia it is $200-400 a month! If we compare that to the USA or Europe where $300-400 will get you a girl in countries where the average income is $3,000-$4,000 a month then we can clearly see that ANYTHING over $20-40 in Indonesia is EXPENSIVE. The Cheapest high end place in Jakarta is be Fashion spa at 830,000 = $50 to 1. 2 m which is $74 and in my opinion it is overpriced. Paradise is 400 k which is $24 and has some of the same girls so you are obviously being overcharged. The solution is stop paying for ALL overpriced crap including FOOD! Prices have almost doubled in Indonesia in just one year! The equation works for food, hotels, and rent as well. $20 for food or $90 for hotels in countries where the income is $3,000 -4,000 a month.

Means about 0. 5% of income per meal and 2. 5% for hotels so in Indonesia this means $1 for food and less than $10 a night for a hotel room. This is very true as you can easily find mrals for 10,000-20,000 rupiah and my 4 star hotel room in Ghaja Mada is only $16 a night.

Paradise never heard of it where is it?

[PuneRomper]

I am visiting Ubud and Seminyak in May and would love to visit some spas where I can get action. Need to be discreet setups as I Am travelling with family and friends. Could someone recommend some places. Also would like to know typical rates for counter and for extras- would like B2 B, Blow job without condom and possibly FS.

Had posted on Bali forum, but realise it is not very active. Would appreciate some pointers.

Thanks.

[Master Monger]

Although I've been most everywhere I've not been to Jakrta and am considering a trip. Obviously to those of us coming from other geographies the idea that $123 USD is expensive just doesn't compute! Jakarta is def one of the best values worldwide. Clearly.

For me, Emporium at $125 sounds wonderful. But what are the alternatives. I did all this research maybe a year ago and was a little confused on 1001 Colleseum and the pool area. Is that three different clubs or it's all part of one? Is that the best alternative to Emporium for high end fun? What's the scoop on CJs and Mailoboro in comparison.

I rarely post anymore because posts like this piss me off so much and the information on this forum is so far from reality it is disturbing!

First: You arrive in a new country start asking people how much they make a month. In Indonesia it is $200-400 a month! If we compare that to the USA or Europe where $300-400 will get you a girl in countries where the average income is $3,000-$4,000 a month then we can clearly see that ANYTHING over $20-40 in Indonesia is EXPENSIVE. The Cheapest high end place in Jakarta is be Fashion spa at 830,000 = $50 to 1. 2 m which is $74 and in my opinion it is overpriced. Paradise is 400 k which is $24 and has some of the same girls so you are obviously being overcharged. The solution is stop paying for ALL overpriced crap including FOOD! Prices have almost doubled in Indonesia in just one year! The equation works for food, hotels, and rent as well. $20 for food or $90 for hotels in countries where the income is $3,000 -4,000 a month.

Means about 0. 5% of income per meal and 2. 5% for hotels so in Indonesia this means $1 for food and less than $10 a night for a hotel room. This is very true as you can easily find mrals for 10,000-20,000 rupiah and my 4 star hotel room in Ghaja Mada is only $16 a night.

[Member #3088]

How do you say in indo, "tip will be in cash".

Luckily 'tip' is 'tip' in indonesian (there are other words but "tip" is widely understood).

Also 'cash' is 'cash' in Indonesian (again, there are other words but 'cash' is widely understood).

Thus: "nanti aku kasi tip dalam bentuk cash sayang' (I will give you a tip in the form of cash my dear).

Or, less elegantly: "aku kasi tip cash sayang".

[NotConcerned]

Just tell her what you want to do (sex without condom and photo in your case), and that you will give a tip. If she ask how much, you can negotiate a bit, but I suspect 200 k is good enough for BBFS with some photos, depending on the photos too I guess.

Also about pictures do not offer 200 k for pictures as Werweq said. That is horrible advice. You can offer them extra money for pictures "uang ekstra" but don't go overboard with it. Something like 20 k or 30 k should be plenty. Often times I would take that staple out of the 35 k the mamasan gives you back for the change and give the girl the 30 k for taking a selfie and keep the 5 k for my exit payment.

Thanks for all the feedback. I will stick to 200 k max for BBFS CIP and photos next time. Photos are just a nice to have, not a must-have. I really just want no-face nude photos together and another photo of her pussy and creampie. (I have my fetishes, please don't judge). I'll try with other girls next time.

[Werqweq]

Thanks for the recommendation. I tend to avoid classic given the reports of BBFS / CIP on the forum.

For what it's worth, it's the same at Emporvium (and everywhere else in Jakarta?), though I guess the price possibly leads the girls at Emporvium to have "less mileage". On the other hand, there are much fewer girls at Emporivum also.

[Expat American]

Went there and had an average experience. Plus new rules make it more expensive.

1) Now the 200 k tip is included in the bill directly. Which means for 1. 2 m category girls you pay 1. 4 m at counter. And for 1. 4 m category it is 1. 6 m just for the girl.

2) While they say tip more directly to the girl only if you want, it is difficult to say no because everytime after service girls will ask for tip. Personally for me it's 100-200 k extra.

3) For 1. 4 m category, you are mandated to book a suite. Which is another 270/300 k. So if you book 1. 4 category, you pay close to 1. 9 m at counter, which is higher than 1001 I think.

4) They also now push you for threesome which is annoying..

How recent is this? I was there less than a month ago and this was not the case at all. Firstly, the 200 K compulsory tip has been in place for awhile now but I have never had girls demand more. I have sometimes given 300 or even 500 if I got special services like BBFS or MSOG but in general 200 K is okay. I have also never been forced into a suite. They may ask but you can always ask for normal room. Threesome has always been optional. Just say no. For me the prices were simply 1. 4 or 1. 6 all in. So if things have changed it has to have been in the last couple of weeks or so.

[Werqweq]

Went there and had an average experience. Plus new rules make it more expensive.

1) Now the 200 k tip is included in the bill directly. Which means for 1. 2 m category girls you pay 1. 4 m at counter. And for 1. 4 m category it is 1. 6 m just for the girl.

2) While they say tip more directly to the girl only if you want, it is difficult to say no because everytime after service girls will ask for tip. Personally for me it's 100-200 k extra.

3) For 1. 4 m category, you are mandated to book a suite. Which is another 270/300 k. So if you book 1. 4 category, you pay close to 1. 9 m at counter, which is higher than 1001 I think.

4) They also now push you for threesome which is annoying.

Overall don't think the increased premium is justified, plus when I sold mamasan I didn't like service for one girl (super smelly down there which killed the vibe), he said others had always given good feedback.

Personally I'll avoid this place for a while as other options more reasonable with similar quality. If I have a budget for 2 juta, I'll likely go for 1001 if I get a good mamasan.

That's not nice to hear. I never cared before about the price difference between the categories much before (compared to my travel and room costs, it's too small to care about), but 1. 4 juta (with the mandatory tip) vs 1. 9 juta (with the mandatory) tip is a difference for me. Insisting you have to take a suit (no idea what I'd do there even, as it's not like you're going to spend much time in the room, especially as it's now just one hour (unlike a hotel suite) is just taking the piss IMO.

I really liked Emporivum for the pool, as it's really nice to sit and relax there with a pretty girl for 20-30 minutes an evening you're not busy, but with these extra charges I'm not sure I'll be visiting again. Maybe I'll do my part to confirm the new prices via whatsapp next summer, and then let them know I'm not visiting because of that, though I guess they've raised the prices because they have too many customers already.

Maybe I'll try 1001 for the first time instead, though one minus is, as far as I can tell from other reports here, the girl can for some reason not join you in the pool.

[Werqweq]

Thanks for the feedback. Good to know. For some reason, I thought 200 k tip was the going rate for BBFS and CIP. Next time I will try a different sliding scale for sex and photos. It was a bit tough trying to negotiate all that with a translation app.

Just tell her what you want to do (sex without condom and photo in your case), and that you will give a tip. If she ask how much, you can negotiate a bit, but I suspect 200 k is good enough for BBFS with some photos, depending on the photos too I guess.

I don't think it's worth it to say you will tip X for that, Y for this, etc., if that's what you mean by a sliding scale. Easier to say what you want to do and that you will tip. From a negotiation point of view it reduces the risk of the girl agreeing to some of what you want, but not all, because she thinks you tipping just X for that is not worth it for her, and that instead you tipping Y for this is enough of a tip for her. When it's instead a package deal (BBFSCIP and photos for 200 k), it's easier to say yes and get the tip, than to say no and not getting the tip. If she says no to photos (I sure would if my face was showing) in the end, you can of course still offer her a lower tip for just the BB.

Except for one session (my last threesome), nobody at Classic ever demanded more than a 100 k tip from me I think. Many, maybe most, did not demand any tip upfront at all for BBFS, so I grew to consider that more or less normal service, for which they probably expected an extra tip, which I of course provided. As always, YMMV, and I had one or two girls who refused to drop the condom, even if I upped the tip.

[Steve 9696]

Although I've been most everywhere I've not been to Jakrta and am considering a trip. Obviously to those of us coming from other geographies the idea that $123 USD is expensive just doesn't compute! Jakarta is def one of the best values worldwide. Clearly.

For me, Emporium at $125 sounds wonderful. But what are the alternatives. I did all this research maybe a year ago and was a little confused on 1001 Colleseum and the pool area. Is that three different clubs or it's all part of one? Is that the best alternative to Emporium for high end fun? What's the scoop on CJs and Mailoboro in comparison.

[XXL]

Went there and had an average experience. Plus new rules make it more expensive.

1) Now the 200 k tip is included in the bill directly. Which means for 1. 2 m category girls you pay 1. 4 m at counter. And for 1. 4 m category it is 1. 6 m just for the girl.

2) While they say tip more directly to the girl only if you want, it is difficult to say no because everytime after service girls will ask for tip. Personally for me it's 100-200 k extra.

3) For 1. 4 m category, you are mandated to book a suite. Which is another 270/300 k. So if you book 1. 4 category, you pay close to 1. 9 m at counter, which is higher than 1001 I think.

4) They also now push you for threesome which is annoying.

Overall don't think the increased premium is justified, plus when I sold mamasan I didn't like service for one girl (super smelly down there which killed the vibe), he said others had always given good feedback.

Personally I'll avoid this place for a while as other options more reasonable with similar quality. If I have a budget for 2 juta, I'll likely go for 1001 if I get a good mamasan.

Good to know. I'll stay away from Emporium during my forthcoming April trip. Even with the old pricing, I only found Emporium worthwhile because my hotel was a stone's throw away. I didn't find the line-up overwhelming. Also, the 2 good girls I sessioned turned out not to be available when I later wanted to repeat. Which implies, alas, that they may have plenty of overpaying customers and can afford to hike prices.

[PartyAnimal]

Went there and had an average experience. Plus new rules make it more expensive.

1) Now the 200 k tip is included in the bill directly. Which means for 1. 2 m category girls you pay 1. 4 m at counter. And for 1. 4 m category it is 1. 6 m just for the girl.

2) While they say tip more directly to the girl only if you want, it is difficult to say no because everytime after service girls will ask for tip. Personally for me it's 100-200 k extra.

3) For 1. 4 m category, you are mandated to book a suite. Which is another 270/300 k. So if you book 1. 4 category, you pay close to 1. 9 m at counter, which is higher than 1001 I think.

4) They also now push you for threesome which is annoying.

Overall don't think the increased premium is justified, plus when I sold mamasan I didn't like service for one girl (super smelly down there which killed the vibe), he said others had always given good feedback.

Personally I'll avoid this place for a while as other options more reasonable with similar quality. If I have a budget for 2 juta, I'll likely go for 1001 if I get a good mamasan.

[PartyAnimal]

Go to Classic, ask mama Cha Cha for Nia. She does rimming. One thing that I usually do is that while taking a shower together, I made her wash my ass real good. That way she knows that it's clean and won't hesitate to Mandi Kucing.

Thanks for the recommendation. I tend to avoid classic given the reports of BBFS / CIP on the forum.

[Plant Smoke]

This is a add-on to JjBee62 1-30-25 tangerang massage report. I turned up this information translating Indonesia news reports. Obviously these are raw reports and because they are published.

The "powers to be" know about them too. However it is my experience that when a lokalisasi is raided, that vice does not just disappear, and when it does, it relocates usually not too far away.

Who wants to make a bet if you got a motobike in the old rawa malang cilincing lokalisasi site and asked your driver.

, "where are the girls" he would take you not very far away?

Tanjerang:

-mardigrass citra raya, panongan district. Supposedly there is a red light area here.

-kali mati area.

-pasar kemis area.

-kutabumi main market.

-cingluh factory area.

-selapajang next to gerendeng gas station.

-tanah tinggi market.

I believe this is the great equalizer to indonesias cleanse campaign. Obviously with PSK in the search box these "areas" are street hookers.

[Plant Smoke]

Hi this is plantsmoke, I'm arriving at the end of ramadan to Jakarta. In my preparation I made a decision early between two: 1. Get info from kaskus indo. Forums 2. Translate indo. News reports.

Well I chose Indonesia news. I did not really understand kaskus. I have not seen any contributors on this forum translate kaskus reports. I guess I would not know if a report here came from kaskus or not.

Translating Indonesia news reports was extremely laborius. It started with typing psk, prostitusi Jakarta in a google box. Sorry I'm going to upload this now. I am a dumbshit andf don t know how to copy or to compose report in a email or notepad. Kind of stupid software that your log-in would time out and you would lose report. With life full of time outs such as the hour at classic and a phone call why can't WSG be differernt? There should be a tutorial here on how you keep from having yolur report dissappear.