Sao Paulo Reports

**Nounce** · 03-19-25 07:47

Originally Posted by MikeKelimir [View Original Post]

A few points I was unclear on was the pricing in the clinicas

Most numbers mentioned here are all-in but you may need to pay the girl separately in more expensive places. There is no free entry at Scandallo. You got too many numbers wrong for me to correct them.

57 is just a clinica by day and boate by night. It is owned by the same group that owns several other clinicas nearby. It does have a very friendly English speaking manager Julie. Besides that, there is nothing special about it. You get similar daytime setup at Tagara and Yankins.

**Blakman** · 03-19-25 03:36

A week away from my flight. Can someone give me the names of clinicas, spa within walking distance of each other. Vila Olympia, vila Mariana, and moema? Or any other places in addition to.

**Dlatin77** · 03-19-25 00:39

Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]

That's a great strategy Tochka! I'm an early bird guy and don't like to wait until late to see who is on the stroll. So, you're saying it's OK to actually hang around on the hotel side without having to pay anything to be in there? If that's true then I would definitely do that and go after the ones I like before they even hit the main stroll! I wouldn't care about "losing the illusion" either. It would be a turn on for me actually to see the "girl next door" turn herself into an "anal hoor"!

Hi everyone,

So I will arrive to SP this Saturday in the afternoon, I live on Wednesday morning. However it is a work trip, so I will not have much free time and I'm on a budget. My guess is that I will only have Saturday night and Sunday afternoon / night for some fun.

From reading some of the posts here, I'm thinking I should check out Scandallo, Casarao or 57 friends (probably only one of them, on Saturday night), then I'm thinking a CLínica or finding someone to come to my hotel on Sunday. So my questions are:

1) what do you think of this plan? Any other thing I should consider?

2) Since I'm on a budget, if I decide to go to scandallo, I would need to go early (I believe there is no entrance fee if arrive before a particular time, correct?) If so what time should I arrive there? What about Casarao and 57 friends, thinking I might only be able to go to one. I'm curious about scandallo early, even if it is for to see the ladies as price seems high. Then go to Casarao for some action. Thoughts?

3) Any tips on CLínicas or places to find someone that can come to my hotel or that I can go to her place?

4) Has anyone used PaySend to pay directly to Pix? I researched and it says it works to make pix payments.

5) If I only have Us Dollars, what is the exchange rate of dealing directly with the ladies?

Thanks a lot and if anyone is in SP this weekend let me know!

**MikeKelimir** · 03-18-25 22:38

I went back 20 pages reading all the posts and tried to make a consolidated reference doc. I will be in SP for about 7 days and have zero experience there (though I have 15 ish in FKK, CR, DR, MDE, and other latic countries). No clue why I have never been to Brazil yet, but I'm going to set up a week long trip.

To be clear, thanks to everyone else do did all the hard work here, I just worked to consolidate it for trip. At any rate, can anyone gut check this and tell me if my numbers / lists look right?

A few points I was unclear on was the pricing in the clinicas and whether my numbers are "all-in" or if there are 2 separate fees in some cases (like the clinica, you pay the girl and then the location, which means the all in is higher).

Also, I do understand there seems to be a trade-off between spots close to the clinicas (having noise and lower prices) vs more expensive hotels that are quieter. I am a light sleeper, but I also am not a fan of spending 45 minutes in a taxi to visit a massage place.

My ideal trip is maybe 1 massage place per day and then 3-5 nights to experience each of the night clubs in the list:

So Paulo

# 1. Accommodation.

# Hotels.

- Bourbon So Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Hotel / Wyndham So Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Plaza Hotel:

- Location: Moema district, near Ibirapuera Shopping Mall and Congonhas Airport (CGH).

- Rooms: 600-672 soundproof rooms with free WiFi, air conditioning, cable TV, electronic safe, and mini-bar.

- Amenities: Indoor swimming pool, fitness center, steam room, sauna, business center, 16 event venues.

- Dining: Multiple options including Fenix Bar, Ipe lobby bar, and Igueira restaurant.

- Price Range: From are $265 (USD $48) per night.

- Additional Features: 24-hour front desk, room service, parking (self and valet), express check-in / out.

- DoubleTree by Hilton So Paulo Itaim:

- Location: Itaim Bibi, known for its vibrant dining scene.

- Rooms: Spacious and modern, some may feel cramped.

- Features: Excellent breakfast service, quiet environment.

- Internet: Requires frequent re-registration.

- Price Range: are $425-are $640 (USD $77-USD $116) per night.

- Mercure So Paulo Alamedas:

- Location: Near Avenida Paulista.

- Issues: Construction noise reported, weak WiFi signal.

- Price Range: are $500-are $750 (USD $91-USD $136) per night.

- Grand Mercure So Paulo Itaim:

- Location: Itaim Bibi.

- Issues: Severe construction noise reported, weak WiFi signal.

- Price Range: are $500-are $750 (USD $91-USD $136) per night.

# Condo Hotel.

- Allure Moema:

- Address: Av. Dos Imars, 508, Moema.

- Features: Modern studio apartments, double-paned glass, modern appliances.

- Price: are $300 (USD $55) per night.

- Proximity: 4-minute walk to clinics like Prime, Miruna, and Abbobhrs; 7-minute Uber to Congonhas Airport (CGH).

- Amenities: Beach tennis court, party hall, swimming pool, gym, 24-hour bilingual reception.

# Airbnb.

- Price Range: are $150-are $225 (USD $27-USD $41) per night for studios.

- Tip: Email hosts to confirm soundproofing features.

# 2. Entertainment & Activities.

# Nightlife & Bars (Boates).

- Scandallo Lounge:

- Address:

- Link to location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/A659oQmcR3u3K6G57.

- Hours: Open daily from noon to early morning (Monday 12 pm-4 am, Tuesday-Friday 12 pm-5 am, Saturday 12 pm-4 am).

- Entry Fee: are $200 (USD $36) for men (includes are $100 for drinks), are $50 (USD $9) for women.

- Session Fee: are $900-1000 (USD $164-USD $182) for 1 hour.

- Best Days: Tuesday to Thursday.

- Tips: Arrive before 7 PM to avoid cover charge, dress to impress.

- Casaro Augusta:

- Address:

- Link to location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/eZ2fKzXcH3Q6Wog17.

- Hours: Opens and closes late, good every day except Sunday and Monday.

- Entry Fee: are $10 (USD $1. 80), includes two drinks.

- Drink Prices: are $15 (USD $2. 70) for you, are $30-are $50 (USD $5. 45-USD $9. 10) for companions.

- Pricing: are $425 (USD $77) for 1 hour, are $300-are $400 (USD $55-USD $73) for 30 minutes, often negotiable to are $300 (USD $55).

- 57 House Friends Club:

- Address:

- Link to location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/2H27zcsvHGnJW9KCA.

- Hours: Open from 12 PM to late evening.

- Entry: No entrance fee reported during an early Friday visit.

- Talent: Around 9 girls present at 6 PM, mostly 22-29 years old, some up to 35.

- Pricing: are $250-330 (USD $45-USD $60) for 1 hour, are $240 (USD $44) for half an hour before 8 PM (rooms included).

# 3. Massage Locations (Clinicas).

# High-End Options.

- Sharon Premium:

- Easy website booking via WhatsApp.

- Opens early (around 10 AM or 11 AM).

- Baronesas:

- Website available, WhatsApp booking.

- Early opening hours (around 10 AM or 11 AM).

- Taj Mahal:

- Website browsing and WhatsApp booking available.

- Lotus Lounge:

- Online presence with easy booking process.

- The Palms:

- Limited online information.

- Visit in person when they open (around 12 PM).

- Pricing: are $700-are $800 (USD $127-USD $145) for session, additional are $400 (USD $73) to the girl.

- Oro:

- Minimal online presence.

- Visit at opening time (around 12 PM).

# Mid-Tier Options.

- Anavrin:

- Price similar to Prime.

- Excellent website with easy advance booking.

- Opens at 9 AM on Saturdays.

- Classic wood floor apartment vibe.

- Prime Massagem:

- Link to location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/itbPvuvg259GT4rg9.

- Miruna:

- Link to location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/4sxBrVP621ShFyf68 (Not Maruna).

- Abbbora:

- Link to location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/n55rLKJLTS7ZCm7cA.

- Tangara.

# 4. Transportation.

- Metro: are $4. 40 (USD $0. 80) per ride, not 24/7.

- Uber: Recommended for nightlife venues.

# 5. Safety & Tips.

- Be cautious of pickpockets in public transport and areas like Rua Augusta.

- Use ATMs inside banks to avoid skimming fraud.

- WhatsApp is commonly used for bookings at massage spots and private clubs.

- Tipping (optional):

- Bartenders / Waiters: are $5 (USD $0. 90) to are $20 (USD $3. 65).

- Hotel Staff: are $10 (USD $1. 80) to are $20 (USD $3. 65).

**TattooedTuna** · 03-18-25 18:14

I managed to extend my Brazil trip by one more day! I was able to change my flight to depart tomorrow and now I'll be arriving on 3/20. The only dilemma is that my Amazon orders—like a sling bag, power adapter, etc. —won't arrive in time. I'm debating whether I should grab these in the USA Before leaving or if they'll be easy to find in São Paulo. I'll be staying in Moema—any recommendations on where to pick up essentials like these?

**TattooedTuna** · 03-18-25 13:38

Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]

You can consider getting an open-jaw ticket by returning to your home country from Rio. Then it is very doable with short amount of time.

BTW, the visa fee is about 80 USD, not 40 as you indicated

I was considering that, but I was limited by the availability of reward tickets and could only book in and out of São Paulo. Appreciate the correction on the visa fee, good to know! Thanks so much!

**Nounce** · 03-18-25 02:25

Originally Posted by TattooedTuna [View Original Post]

I know, but this is the best I can do for nowtoo much weighing me down at the moment. At least I'll get a taste of Brazil so I can plan a longer, more prepared trip next time. Luckily, I scored in & out redeye biz class tickets with my miles, so I should be able to catch some rest on the way! Can't wait.

You can consider getting an open-jaw ticket by returning to your home country from Rio. Then it is very doable with short amount of time.

BTW, the visa fee is about 80 USD, not 40 as you indicated

**Nounce** · 03-18-25 02:23

Originally Posted by Ak233 [View Original Post]

How do tourists without a CPF use phones?

You only need passport to get a SIM card under your name. It's not that difficult and been mentioned many times and I have repeated many times as well. Many just get a burner SIM and the scammer won't be able to find your identity. It is also not difficult once you know how. Look up VB1 posts to find out how.

**Nounce** · 03-18-25 02:20

Originally Posted by KCK12 [View Original Post]

Does anyone know if it's possible for a foreigner to get the cartao fidelidade for the Metro in SP without having CPF. My hotel is in Guarulhos which is way too far to take cheap Ubers. I would like to take the metro. They sell separate tickets but I want a card for future visits.

You only need CPF to get the card for metro but it may take some effort. The alternative method is to buy many single tickets at once.

**Ak233** · 03-18-25 02:07

Just looking for some feedback from ISG. The local gp guide has an active blog regarding WhatsApp extortions. Punters are reaching out to girls on escort sites like fatalmodel.com and photoacompanhantes.com and are then being contacted by goons claiming they did not honor a meeting or wasted a girls time without compensation. These goons leave threatening messages by text and voice and are somehow able to identify the punter by real name and occasionally home address, work address, family members or similar. They demand payment of perhaps a few hundred dollars. Most of the locals just block these call back numbers, but others have paid as they are terrified that their relatives will find out they are soliciting prostitutes.

Here are my questions: (a) have any of you foreigners visiting SP been extorted in this way through WhatsApp? (b) does anyone here use WhatsApp to contact the girls? While I realize there may be some girls on these sites who work in a prive or may be a bit of bait-and-switch, I am sure some ads are genuine. Some of the girls are appealing. (c) A lot of the clinics use WhatsApp to display their daily girls and allow punters to make an appointment. It seems WhatsApp is pretty valuable to a tourist. (d) Getting a SIM card in Brazil seems impossible without a CPF number (a local social security number). How do tourists without a CPF use phones? I absolutely want to avoid using my personal phone in Brazil. (e) any work-arounds that would keep me anonymous? A lot of the international cell plans (for a burner phone) lack call and SMS / text options.

**TattooedTuna** · 03-18-25 01:10

Originally Posted by Combo [View Original Post]

5 days is not enough to do justice to either one of them. Going to Brasil for just 5 days seems ridiculous (unless you live in Argentina or Uruguay). I hope he can at least sleep on the flights each way.

I know, but this is the best I can do for nowtoo much weighing me down at the moment. At least I'll get a taste of Brazil so I can plan a longer, more prepared trip next time. Luckily, I scored in & out redeye biz class tickets with my miles, so I should be able to catch some rest on the way! Can't wait.

**TattooedTuna** · 03-18-25 00:59

Thanks for all the warm responses, gents! I'll be saving Rio for another time. Super pumped for this trip—it's been a while since my last one to China in July 2024. I'll be posting updates as I go. My plan is to bring $1,000 in cash, withdraw more if needed, and use my credit card as much as possible unless there's a fee. Any input is greatly appreciated!

**KCK12** · 03-18-25 00:55

Does anyone know if it's possible for a foreigner to get the cartao fidelidade for the Metro in SP without having CPF. My hotel is in Guarulhos which is way too far to take cheap Ubers. I would like to take the metro. They sell separate tickets but I want a card for future visits.

**Combo** · 03-18-25 00:17

Originally Posted by AxelHeyst [View Original Post]

I am with Steve on this one. RJ has a lot of good things going for it, but 5 days is just not enough time to do justice to both towns. There is too much to see and do. In fact, 5 days is not enough time to cover SP. It is a big city with lots of places / bordellos / girls, & restaurants to check out. You are only going to get a taste in 5 days. So, stick to your original plan and be happy. Don't over think it. Just have a great time and if you like Brazilian girls, and I am sure you will, then come on back for a 2nd, 3rd & 4th helping. And next time you can start where you left off.

5 days is not enough to do justice to either one of them. Going to Brasil for just 5 days seems ridiculous (unless you live in Argentina or Uruguay). I hope he can at least sleep on the flights each way.

**Tochka** · 03-17-25 22:41

Originally Posted by AxelHeyst [View Original Post]

All good points Tochka. But here is something else to consider and that is the total travel time from your SP hotel to your RJ hotel which is between 4 or 4 1/2 hours counting flight time as well as Uber time from and to your hotel, airport wait time & hotel check-in / check-out time. In addition, add another 4 1/2 hours for the return flight to SP. In my opinion, this is too much wasted time for short visits to Brazil. It just does not work for me.

And here is a tip on what one can do if you have 2 weeks or more to spend in Brazil and want to do both towns: book a multi-city international flight trip instead of an international round trip. For example, an American Airlines "multi-city" flight from MIA to GRU // GIG to MIA costs no more than the AA round trip from MIA to GRU. Just do not include the domestic CGH to SDU flight in your multi-city itinerary because if you do AA will charge you a couple hundred bucks for it. Book domestic air travel separately as you suggest and fly the CGH. SDU route.

You make an excellent point. Guys travelling you definitely should consider these important Pro tips Axel is providing.

The way I count travel time from So Paulo to Rio or Rio to So Paulo is blowjob to blowjob travel time. At 1 pm I get a deep sloppy BJ in Clinica Prime from Nadia or Karen (both are cum swallowers) after the leche pops at 1. 55 pm. I grab an Uber for a 10-15 min ride to CGH. QR code and check-in by phone, so go directly to security and boarding gate. Less busy time early afternoon. The flight leaves at 3 pm, and my group boards at 2. 30 pm. Take off at 3 pm, and land at SDU at 3. 55 pm. Taxi on runway 10 min, doors open. Crap got to take a stupid bus to the terminal. At 4. 15 p or 4. 30 pm SDU head directly to Uber pickup. Wow, nice views in Rio. Uber X from SDU to Centro about 15 to 20 minutes. Walk to building 155 with Dudas Spa, Bel Prazer, Darkroom different spas in Centro before they close. Grab 2500 at Bradesco.

Schedule Pepe or Alexis for 5 pm by 5. 10 pm both of them are continuing from Karen & Nadai deep massage blowjob, with a CIM shared by both. Around 7 pm uber to Monte Carlo, bangaway with threesome until midnight or shift to Soloraium or Carribean / NY. Take two MC garotas or hot soloario garotas to Panda motel in Botafogo presidential suite for all night sex fueled swim, marola, orgy, drinking & party. Wake up 0800 am, uber from.

Panda to SDU arrive by 0830 am, gonstraight to security on second floor SDU, board 0930 am flight SDU to CGH. At 11 am wassap message clinicas to setup noon or 1 pm threesomes.