American Politics

[EihTooms]

All the TrumpMusk Repub MAGA bullshit, lying, twisting, gas lighting and spinning about what a great job they are doing and how everything is so much better in these past horrific couple of months just isn't working.

Even Trump had to send Stefanik back to the purportedly "safe", heavily Repub Congressional seat she won by more than 20 points for fear that a 20 plus point margin of victory is NOT enough to hold back the potential Blue Tsunami building under these special election outcomes to keep that House seat "safe" for Repubs at all.

White House pulls Stefaniks UN ambassador nomination amid concern over narrow Republican House majority.
March 27, 2025

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/27/polit...use/index.html

The president said he didnt want to take a chance on Stefaniks open seat in northern New York, which heavily favored Republicans.

Here's why:

Trump's Approval Rating On the Economy Hits New Low, Polls Show.
March 27, 2025

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-econo...gallup-2051744

Trump's approval ratings in surveys conducted by nearly every major pollster are now negative.

[Tiny 12]

I prefer to focus on an "electrified" future where possible...

OK fair enough Spidy. Monger on.

[Tiny 12]

Automakers warn that Trump tariffs will hike vehicle prices as much as 25%.
March 5, 2025

https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...25-2025-03-04/

Trumps Tariffs Causing Chaos In Auto Industry, Says Ford CEO.
Feb. 11, 2025

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterly...says-ford-ceo/

And if there were such a thing as a car made and delivered 100% by Americans in America the labor costs would be so high we would only wish for an increase of as little as 25%.

Globalism keeps prices lower and reduces the inevitable risk of out-of-control wage inflation.

Tariffs do help USA Automakers! By rewarding incompetence and an inability to innovate and produce creative designs. Building a moat of safety to protect them. Investors know a 25% across the board increase in auto prices will hurt sales. Ford and GM will not hold their costs down in order to gain market share. They will raise prices because their competitors will have to raise prices. That will allow them to maintain current profit margins with less sales.

Because, even Ford and GM use many pieces built abroad. Average increasing for cars will be more than 7500 USD. Americans complained about Biden for inflation and they will get more inflation under Trump. So funny, vaseline should make big sales, for their ass deeply fucked. Robber and fucker Trump and his gang making DT BBBJ swallowing Putin.

Excellent comments gentlemen. I agree, except for Sirioja's thoughts about Trump's sexual activities. Rumors that Trump is methodically butt fucking all Americans, and that Trump and Putin have a physical relationship have been thoroughly debunked.

Tooms, I believe deep down inside you, there's a "free market" Rand Paul Republican, or an "armed and gay" Chase Oliver Libertarian, just waiting to flower.

SubCmdr, It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out in the economy and the market. The ex-CEO of Ford was on CNBC this morning. He believes the tariffs will have no effect on Tesla. Ford will suffer, but only a little as it manufactures 80% of what it sells here in the USA. Surprisingly, he said Honda and Toyota won't be affected as severely as GM. Both the Japanese companies have large manufacturing presences in the USA, while GM imports 40% of what it sells. Bringing up the rear are the Europeans, the smaller Japanese manufacturers, and the Koreans, who in Sirioja's words are about to take it up the ass.

The ex-CEO believes the parts manufacturers will take it on the chin worse than the auto manufacturers. He says they're not in good financial shape, and will be forced to build factories in the USA they can't afford. He said that if you're going to do what Trump's doing, you should do it over several years, so companies can adjust.

There's going to be a ridiculous amount of money spent on new factories, and old ones will rust.

As the Economist put it, Trump's putting in place the same policies that caused the Indian economy to suck for decades. A few crony capitalists will make out like bandits, and the rest of us will lose.

[Spidy]

Your source Gasleaks apparently doesn't understand the difference between methane and natural gas. Yes, CH4 will oxidize to CO2 and H2 O after 7 to 12 years in the atmosphere, from what I'm reading. The amount of CO2 resulting from the oxidation of manmade CH4 emissions is tiny compared to the volume of manmade CO2 emissions.

First, let's not gloss over the fact that Methane GHG emissions, has an 80x the supercharging warming effect, on our atmosphere, over those 12 to 20 years while it oxides. So hardly tiny!

Second, as much as you try to trivialize and minimize, the O&G industry's massive contributions to global warming and GHG emissions, despite having 100+ years, to clean up it's act, peak-oil maybe here already, in 2025, and that's a good thing, right?

Third, wouldn't the world of renewables, be so much better? I mean, a world where I wouldn't have to debate you on harmful, toxic GHG methane or CO2 emissions, since they are none emitted from renewables, be so much better?

As a former engineer who worked in a natural gas processing plant, I appreciate your educating me about mercaptans.

Your Welcome! I think I sort of already realized, you were perhaps a choirboy for the O&G industry, but thanks for the heads-up conformation.

As to "Yeah, I met that challenge several posts ago," no, you did not.

First, yes I did! For example, I give you South Australia, Britain, China...etc

Second, I know fossil fuel advocates, like yourself, just love to misuse “baseload”, to argue renewables aren’t reliable. So, I've come to realize using the term "baseload", is an outdated fossil fuel term, that was used for old electrical grids, that used oil, coal, gas and nuclear power plants, for constant power output.

Flexible modern day electricity grids, for those countries, states or provinces, that have shifted or transitioning to a cleaner grid, where the bulk of their energy mix is made up of renewables, don’t aspire for or need "baseload" — they require flexibility, in their modern grids. The energy transition isn’t about replacing “baseload with baseload”—it’s about building a flexible, smarter and adaptive system where S+W+B and other renewables work together to make fossil fuels irrelevant.

The other big reason, I've come to realize why "baseload" is outdated, when referencing a more modern renewable powered grid, is due to "The Primary Energy Fallacy" and renewables being way more efficient at providing "usable energy".

Busting the Baseload Myth and the Tyranny of Oligopoly-controlled Energy Markets
https://medium.com/@aldogrech55/bust...s-6b3b4cc979f5

I'm not replying to any more of your posts on natural gas. And I'm probably the only one reading them, just as you're probably the only person reading mine.

Why do you guys, feel the need to announce to the world, your not replying to another BMs post? Just DON'T replay to the post or subject matter! No announcement necessary!

BTW, I won't care either way, but I do enjoy, learning the odd thing or two, from ChatGOP (...kkkk!) So much thanks!

I had an Aha moment! I wasn't ever able to convince the Mormon missionaries who I invited into my home that they were sadly misguided, and I'm not going to be able to convince you either.

Unlike like you, I'm NOT trying to convince anyone here of anything! Other than I think Brazilian women are simply the best. But even then, I'm sure YMMV!

And why do you keep calling Trump my MAGA Fuhrer? The only person on this board who possibly dislikes me more than you do is the Marquesa, and the reason she dislikes me is because I don't like Trump. I love both of you by the way, in a brotherly, Christian kind of way.

Perhaps had the Mormons, stayed a tad bit longer, they could have given you the answers you seek, brother Tiny 12?

Although it's incredibly frustrating trying to educate you.

'Tis a good thing then, that you have ChatGOP, to guide you and you help out? (...kkkk!)

[RamDavidson84]

Yes, we're all fucked. But why everyone be all doom and gloom, when so many people, me included can't even be sure we can pay the rent? Who cares if there's world war 3 when homelessness is just around the corner. Jeez guys, get your priorities straight. You know why? Cause you guys have more to lose. For people like me with literally nothing, I can't wait for the apocalypse and the total collapse of the global financial markets. I want the damn world to end. We all should expire together. Let's fucking do it.

Alfred said "some men just want to watch the world burn".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbPiIwFOQtU

Hmmm, now if only NVDA would go up.

Ramdavidson approves of Post Apocolyptic Wasteland Mongering!

[Spidy]

I'm not going to waste time reading the Book of Mormon when I know it's bull shit. Likewise, I'm not going to take a close read about what the Newsweek's sustainability editor and the Environmental Defense Fund have to say. I am sure their contention that methane losses in the Uinta Basin are 7% is bull shit.

Oil and gas companies have plenty of reason to monitor leaks, in addition to governmental pressure. They sell natural gas. They make money off it. If it's leaking into the air they make less money. Furthermore, they will get sued by landowners. Finally, the big ones are trying to claim they're "green. " Which is of course bull shit, but cutting natural gas leaks to 0% or close to it is one of the ways they go about claiming they're green.

And for the 3rd time, yes, there should be aggressive government regulation to prevent the industry from leaking natural gas.

I'm all for "aggressive" regulations, fines and penalties. But we all know, these penalties, are just a slap on the wrist and "the cost of doing business". After all, fines are so much cheaper than fixing infrastructure, or declare bankruptcy when cleanup is due and walk-away from uncapped wells or unpaid land taxes.

In 100+ years, the O&G industry, hasn't been able to stop leaks or prevent flaring of methane gas, nor will they ever get zero% CO2 emissions from either oil or gas, given the next 100+ years.

9.8 billion cubic feet, the amount of natural gas that you say was leaked from 2019 to late 2023, is nothing. If the gas were pure methane (specific gravity of 0. 554), then that would be 188,000 metric tons of methane. 13.33 lbs. of air at standard conditions weigh one pound, and there are 2204 pounds per metric ton, if you want to check me. If your polytechnique insights link is correct (and I wouldn't bet on it), and you spread those 188,000 tons over 5 years (from 2019 to 2023), then those 9. 8 billion cubic feet are about 0.011% of total methane emissions from manmade sources during the period. You shouldn't want to put put the domestic natural gas industry out of business to reduce methane emissions by 0.011%.

Once again you fail to realize, the 9.7 billion cubic feet of gas, released into the atmosphere between 2019 and late 2023, is just the unreported amount, O&G were caught leaking. Add that to the global totals, and from all accounts noted in the articles, it signifies that total number of methane leaks, are severely under reported and likely to be 8x worst.

Tiny 12, didn't even get me started, on the U.S. gas crumbling infrastructure, that are a major source of the leaks!

Americas Underground Crisis: Aging Infrastructure Brings Opportunity for Gas Workers

• Nearly half of America's existing natural gas infrastructure was built before 1960 and cast and wrought iron pipes were used extensively in those years. Wrought and cast iron are brittle and reactive. Like older plastics, they can crack and break from frost heaves or other ground movement.
  ...
  
  It wasn't until 1971 that federal guidelines required steel pipes to be coated against corrosion and medium- and high-density polyethylene came into wide usage.
  
  Between 1990 and 2010, gas utilities had already replaced about 85,000 miles of vulnerable mains from a total of nearly 200,000. But at that rate, given where the remaining pipe is located, it could take more than 30 years to replace the rest. All the while they are corroding, growing more brittle and leak-prone, and the threat isn't linear. As a pipe ages, problems accelerate.
  
  Note: While I agree with the article's plea to attract and promote jobs to repair the U.S. infrastructure, I fear it's a fool's errand.
  
  https://ibew.org/media-center/Articl...icaUnderground

Point being, in the U.S. there's over 2.6 million miles of gas distribution pipes, with about 9-10% (or 260,000+ miles) leaky pipes (cast iron, unprotected steel). Some as old as 100+ years, in cities like , Boston and New York. So IMHO, the logical conclusion is, gov't and municipalities, should cut bait, repair what they can and focus more on the electrifying their infrastructures.

Sure the U.S., should continue to sell O&G in overseas markets, as long as there are countries still in need. But the U.S. IMHO, needs to adopt the Norway model and electrify more industry, business and residential infrastructure, while selling more O&G overseas, as these markets will be shrinking, as more and more countries, are rapidly moving to renewables.

As to the rest of your post, I didn't vote for Trump. That's not my monkey.

(...kkkk!) Sure, dude, sure...tell yourself, what ever makes you sleep better at nights!

[Sirioja]

Because, even Ford and GM use many pieces built abroad. Average increasing for cars will be more than 7500 USD. Americans complained about Biden for inflation and they will get more inflation under Trump. So funny, vaseline should make big sales, for their ass deeply fucked. Robber and fucker Trump and his gang making DT BBBJ swallowing Putin. If our world kept on isolating Russia for economics, then, soon, no more money for Putin to pay war, but when USA can t compete with China or Europe, USA prefer business with Putin and Netanyahou than peace, I mean fair peace, not fucking Ukrainians and Palestinians.

When USA prefer to suck swallowing Putin, Europe and some other countries are fully right to decide to keep on isolating Russia for economics, when making broke Russia is only way to stop Putin, for sure not when making business with such criminal.

[EihTooms]

Hey, these numbskulls voted for him!

And didn't the rank and file in these industries and, most pathetic of all, the farmers, vote for that ridiculous conman, Trump?

Lolol.

Oil executives slam Trump's tariffs and 'drill, baby, drill' in anonymous survey.
March 27, 2025

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/27/oil-...ndroidappshare

"The administrations chaos is a disaster for the commodity markets, one executive said. Drill, baby, drill is nothing short of a myth and populist rallying cry. Tariff policy is impossible for us to predict and doesnt have a clear goal. We want more stability."

Several executives said Trumps steel tariffs are raising their costs, making it difficult to plan for future projects.

Uncertainty around everything has sharply risen during the past quarter, another executive said. Planning for new development is extremely difficult right now due to the uncertainty around steel-based products.

They also criticized the suggestion by White House advisors such as Peter Navarro that Trumps drill, baby, drill agenda aims to push oil prices down to $50 a barrel to fight inflation.

The threat of $50 oil prices by the administration has caused our firm to reduce its 2025 and 2026 capital expenditures, an executive said. Drill, baby, drill does not work with $50 per barrel oil. Rigs will get dropped, employment in the oil industry will decrease, and U.S. oil production will decline as it did during COVID-19."
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Executives mostly praised Trumps energy team during the event and welcomed the administrations focus on increasing leasing and slashing red tape around permitting.

Yep. Not since Trump's Pandemic Part 1 has it been this bad, alrighty-dighty. LOL.

Auto executive tells CNBC auto tariffs will drive auto industry into recession.
March 26, 2025

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2025/03/2...ndroidappshare

Farmers Fear More Pain From Trumps Trade War.
March 5, 2025

https://time.com/7264403/farmers-trade-war-tariffs/

"He's out there with his wrecking ball just throwing tariffs around," says Barb Kalbach, a fourth-generation corn and soybean farmer in Dexter, Iowa.

Trumps 25% tariffs on goods from Canada and Mexico went into effect Tuesday, and the President doubled the levy on products from China to 20%. China retaliated with taxes of up to 15% on U.S. farm imports, while both Canada and Mexico announced retaliatory tariffs of their own. Canadas 25% tariffs on $30 billion of U.S. products affect poultry, meat, dairy, wheat, and other food products.

Farmers know from experience that these retaliatory tariffs are going to hurt them. When Trump launched a trade war against China in 2018, Beijing responded with tariffs aimed at the U.S. farm industry. Exports fell as Chinese buyers looked to places like Brazil for soybeans, reducing the market share of American farmers. Farmers were hit so hard that the Trump Administration ended up spending $23 billion to make them whole.
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In the last trade war, around 80% of the money the U.S. government took in from tariffs on Chinese imports went back to paying farmers who were hurt by retaliatory tariffs, Busch says. Such payments keep farms afloat, but what will really boost the agriculture industry is to find new markets, says Clark Packard, a research fellow at the Cato Institute. Its a question of whether we want welfare payments or whether we want to actually make sales, Packard says. We are getting back into this business of doling out more and more payments to the agricultural industry.

Sadly, this must be said.

And said.

And said again:

[Elvis 2008]

Until now, hopefully someone will be.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/d...25/id/1204352/

The only person MURDERED on Jan 6 during the rigged election protests RIP Ashley maybe she will receive some justice after all.

Yeah, when you got a complete partisan hack like Tooms talking about cops dying on January 6, it makes me sick. None died on that day. Hell, they tried to link cops fucking suicides to Jan 6. All this anti-MAGA insurrection bullshit and the ONLY person killed was a MAGA supporter. Meanwhile, the Democratic douches still keep sucking off the bureaucrats. Tooms once again makes the moronic Trump pandemic comment when it was Fauci's bought and paid for pandemic. And hopefully, Kash Patel will uncover how much the FBI was involved with this whole Jan 6 farce. Whatever violence occurred that day I feel like was started by guys like Ray Epps.

We had the BLM riots and now Tesla and the Democratic douches are trying to say MAGA types are the violent types. F them! This meme says it all.

[Sirioja]

On this Saturday, everywhere in our world and even inside USA, maybe not in Russia under dictator Putin, citizens of the world will shout versus Tesla, facist Musk and Neron Trump who try to fuck democracies, but making friends with criminal Putin and Netanyahou, putting big shame on USA, when no MAGA at all and Americans will suffer under such crazies, with also Vance and gang like the one who is sucking deep Putin right now.

[Sirioja]

Trump has announced tariffs on auto imports. Here's the markets reaction at this moment,

USA (After hours trading):
Ford -4.37%
General Motors -6.36%

Foreign
Toyota -3.9%
Honda -3.1%
Hyundai -2.7%
Kia -2.1%

Would someone care to kindly explain why Ford and GM are down sharply when tariffs are supposed to help U.S. automakers? Or why the Asian automakers, which purportedly will pay the tariffs, are down less than Ford and GM?

Because, even Ford and GM use many pieces built abroad. Average increasing for cars will be more than 7500 USD. Americans complained about Biden for inflation and they will get more inflation under Trump. So funny, vaseline should make big sales, for their ass deeply fucked. Robber and fucker Trump and his gang making DT BBBJ swallowing Putin. If our world kept on isolating Russia for economics, then, soon, no more money for Putin to pay war, but when USA can t compete with China or Europe, USA prefer business with Putin and Netanyahou than peace, I mean fair peace, not fucking Ukrainians and Palestinians.

[SubCmdr]

And why do you keep calling Trump my MAGA Fuhrer?

You have a point. Hitler is NOT the role model POTUS is imitating. He is running Putin's playbook.

[SubCmdr]

US YIELDS

USGFG2 YR - 4. 0145 up 0. 0013.

USGG10 YR - 4. 3480 up 0. 0347.

USGG20 YR - 4. 7252 up 0. 0424.

USGG30 YR - 4. 6991 up 0. 0403.

This is on a day the market tanked because of the anticipated announcement of tariffs on automobiles.

Trump has announced tariffs on auto imports. Here's the markets reaction at this moment,

USA (After hours trading):
Ford -4.37%
General Motors -6.36%

Foreign
Toyota -3.9%
Honda -3.1%
Hyundai -2.7%
Kia -2.1%

Would someone care to kindly explain why Ford and GM are down sharply when tariffs are supposed to help U.S. automakers? Or why the Asian automakers, which purportedly will pay the tariffs, are down less than Ford and GM?

Tariffs do help USA Automakers! By rewarding incompetence and an inability to innovate and produce creative designs. Building a moat of safety to protect them. Investors know a 25% across the board increase in auto prices will hurt sales. Ford and GM will not hold their costs down in order to gain market share. They will raise prices because their competitors will have to raise prices. That will allow them to maintain current profit margins with less sales.

[EihTooms]

Trump has announced tariffs on auto imports. Here's the markets reaction at this moment,

USA (After hours trading):
Ford -4.37%
General Motors -6.36%

Foreign
Toyota -3.9%
Honda -3.1%
Hyundai -2.7%
Kia -2.1%

Would someone care to kindly explain why Ford and GM are down sharply when tariffs are supposed to help U.S. automakers? Or why the Asian automakers, which purportedly will pay the tariffs, are down less than Ford and GM?

Automakers warn that Trump tariffs will hike vehicle prices as much as 25%.
March 5, 2025

https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...25-2025-03-04/

Automakers have sounded the alarm that the tariffs will disrupt the integrated supply chain across North America that has been in place for more than 25 years. Some auto parts can cross a border six or more times before final assembly.

Trumps Tariffs Causing Chaos In Auto Industry, Says Ford CEO.
Feb. 11, 2025

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterly...says-ford-ceo/

Farley Says Tariffs Would Unfairly Benefit Europe And Asia

Jim Farley, who was speaking at a finance conference, said that Trumps original proposal to impose 25 percent tariffs on Mexico and Canada would be disastrous for U.S. companies operating throughout the area and unfairly benefit European and Asian automakers who also import to the U.S.
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According to Farley, Ford sources the majority of those two metals from U.S. companies, but its suppliers have overseas source. "So that price will come through, and there may be a speculative part of the market where prices come up because tariffs are even rumored," Farley stated.

And if there were such a thing as a car made and delivered 100% by Americans in America the labor costs would be so high we would only wish for an increase of as little as 25%.

Globalism keeps prices lower and reduces the inevitable risk of out-of-control wage inflation.

[Tiny 12]

Now, that's not saying much at all, really!

O&G companies have had the EPA, in their back pockets for years, with very favorable and often soft regulatory measures, being ever softly applied to O&G (or coal) companies. Wouldn't surprise me if the EPA along the way, were a who's who of O&G alumni.


(...kkkk!) So now you're making my point for me! Thanks!

Methane GHG gas, has an 80x the warming effect on our atmosphere, and CO2 has a 1x (baseline) warming effect. When methane GHG gas, breaks down over those 12 years, it still leaves a significant deposit of CO2, that lingers for those 100+ years (as you've so kindly stated). So basically, what this means is, dirty methane GHG gas emissions, speeds up global warming and is no better than coal, when you take into account the massive amount of leaks.

If it hasn't already dawned on you, the use of more oil, coal or methane gas, released into our atmosphere for next 100+ years, is NOT what's needed, when alternative cleaner energy sources, exist.
Don't forget the Obama administration, only meant for methane gas, to be used as a temporary transitional energy source.

But greedy O&G companies, lack fortitude and the constitution for zero CO2 emissions and cleaner solutions and haven't reduced dirty fossil fuels, in the face of clean renewables. Nor do I blame them, if there's a demand for it. So it's up to us, to change that trend, which I think is happening.

Yes, some O&G production will probably always exist, but what governments need to really do, is place more emphasis, on renewables. See my past post, on those countries, that are producing more grid renewable energy, than fossil fuels.

(...kkkk!) Is that what ChatGOP is telling you! Or was ChatGOP, just playing with you and provided you the appropriate greenwashing answer?

Do I really need to explain to you, that when methane gas is used or burnt, it releases CO2 emissions. So greenwash with terms like "pure" and "natural" all you want, the answer will always come up DIRTY!



BTW, while methane gas is by nature, colorless and odorless, that rotten egg smell associated with commercial and residential use of dirty methane gas, is the odorant called mercaptan, which is added, so that we can detect, when we're about to be poisoned or blown up, by dirty methane gas leaks.

Yeah, I met that challenge several posts ago. And you can check my last post for the all those countries, that have flipped the switch and are using renewables as baseload power and supplement there peak demand with fossil fuels.

Again, you're not saying very much about anything when you talk about your MAGA Fuhrer, now are you!

BTW, he's never considered himself a politician, perhaps that's because, he's a grifter, corrupt and criminal gangster, masquerading as a wannabe dictator.

Your source Gasleaks apparently doesn't understand the difference between methane and natural gas. Yes, CH4 will oxidize to CO2 and H2 O after 7 to 12 years in the atmosphere, from what I'm reading. The amount of CO2 resulting from the oxidation of manmade CH4 emissions is tiny compared to the volume of manmade CO2 emissions.

As a former engineer who worked in a natural gas processing plant, I appreciate your educating me about mercaptans.

As to "Yeah, I met that challenge several posts ago," no, you did not.

I'm not replying to any more of your posts on natural gas. And I'm probably the only one reading them, just as you're probably the only person reading mine.

I had an Aha moment! I wasn't ever able to convince the Mormon missionaries who I invited into my home that they were sadly misguided, and I'm not going to be able to convince you either.

And why do you keep calling Trump my MAGA Fuhrer? The only person on this board who possibly dislikes me more than you do is the Marquesa, and the reason she dislikes me is because I don't like Trump.

I love both of you by the way, in a brotherly, Christian kind of way. Although it's incredibly frustrating trying to educate you.