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  1. #21060
    Quote Originally Posted by NewtonYork  [View Original Post]
    Princess, Full Moon, Paradise and the one that started it all: Butterfly
    It's obvious to me these 4 joints are operated by the same people, from the simple fact that their website outside of Thailand can only be accessed via VPN, for me anyway here in the shitty states. I missed out on them by mere months. On my last trip, within months of me leaving Butterfly opened, and I think the other 3 joints followed quickly. I understand these places have some BBFS. But never having been to any of them personally, just by going on the photos on their websites, are the chicks really that hot?

    I mean, I kinda doubt it. With photo editing, and the way cell phone filters can make any chick look like a supermodel these days, it's highly unlikely these chicks are that gorgeous, but from some of yous boots on the ground, what would you rate the chicks looks wise? In general.

    I'm not talking about prices or services provided, just the looks in general. I'd also think that they shuffle the girls around these 4 joints most likely.

    But there is hope though. Cause if the chick is a 6, the website makes them look like a 9. Here, look at around 12:06
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McTaEOLvKKU

    and you'll find some of the Cherry chicks sitting outside and they look kinda bad. Easily a 3 or 4. But the Cherry website makes them look like a doable 6. So, I suspect, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I think most of the chicks in Princess, Full Moon, Butterfly and Paradise will be easily 7s and up.
    Would that be the Princess Massage just off Sukhumvit Soi 33? If so, I assure you if there is a girl over a 6 there she would be the shop's hands down Super Star. At least she would have been the night I went there a few months ago.

    And I would recommend anyone looking for BBFSCIP or a BBBJCIM in that shop to get a signed contract drown up in English and Thai by an attorney for it. In my case the girl, a 6 at best but still the most appealing looker among the, as I recall, 9 or 10 girls in the lineup, refused to go forward with the BBBJCIM I specifically asked for with the mamasan and she pointed her out as the best in the shop for that service, because a CIM finish was simply nothing she would ever do under any circumstances. But, she told me, I could fuck her BB for an additional 2,000 baht. Which I politely declined. I wasn't the least bit interested in doing due to her weight and body shape.

    Therefore, I was up and out of the room within 15-20 minutes after no finish at all. When I went downstairs to complain to the mamasan who pointed her out as the best at BBBJCIM, she adamantly insisted that none of her girls provide a CIM finish, that there must have been a misunderstanding. I had told the mamasan what I wanted outside when she approached me with the menu and repeated it inside when I left it to her to point out her best girl for the service.

    Worse, after she and the girl said something to each other in Thai, the mamasan said the girl told her I insisted on fucking her BB, which, according to the mamasan, is not allowed in their shop! LOL.

    Get that BBFSCIP or BBBJCIM contract signed and notarized, copied and filed with the Province of Bangkok if either one is something you want with a 6 or less at that Princess Massage.

  2. #21059

    Snow White. My return engagement after 6-7 years.

    Sunday night I was horny and in the mood for a place where the girls know what to do, how to do it and will do it without me having to explain everything, discuss every little detail or demonstrate anything. Time for one of my semi-annual pilgrimages to one of Bangkok's highly touted PSE Happy Ending Shops!

    But which one? Of the dozen or so sessions I have paid for in one of these places over the years, Tulip was the only one where I actually got a sexual finish. And that was an ok but not worth repeating BBBJCIM a lady gave me there 3-4 years ago. But no way, no how was she going to allow BBFSCIP with me for any amount of additional money. So this time I decided to try another highly-touted so-called GFE / PSE Anything Goes, They Never Refuse Anything, They Never Disappoint, Happy Ending Shop on the off chance that perhaps on this night I will finally have that BBFSCIP first time session with a doable girl in one of these places.

    Snow White.

    Why not? It had been 6-7 years since I visited this place at its old location. This would be my first time at its new location.

    I chose the one and only girl in the line up who was at least attractive enough that I would want to be naked in the same room with her, much less have any kind of actual sex with her. If that was even going to happen, that is.

    She looked fine; slim, curvy, mid-20's I would guess, lovely lips.

    I first saw her sitting with the group of girls outside. And she was the one who flashed a big smile and stood up to take my hand and lead me inside and up the stairs, where there were a handful of other girls sitting around. For sure, she was best looker this night. It seemed as though I was the only customer in the shop. Maybe one of the few customers on the whole soi full of shops.

    The bad news; beyond her looks, she turned out to be utterly lacking in sensuality or an ability to follow the simplest directions. Plus, everything I did to her rather nice body "tickled" her she wanted me to stop. Ok.

    After the shower, where I slightly moved in for a hug and maybe a peck on the lips but she pulled back and turned her head away, we laid down on the bed and I assume if I had not initiated everything and every move from that point forward we would have laid there staring at the ceiling for the entire 2,400 thb 90 minute session.

    It was impossible to get her to do anything properly for me. Moving around to at least get a BJ started, the challenge to get her to perform an ok one rather than a terrible one was daunting. I said it, Google Translated it, and even demonstrated it with two of her fingers and my own mouth and hands that I really need her move her hand and mouth in the same direction, not in opposite directions. It's a blowjob, not a taffy pull. I only thought that last part, didn't try to say it in my very basic Thai.

    And between every small tweak or adjustment to get her to for the love of god please do that more gently or slower, this way not that way, she would stop and stare at me for half a minute as though she'd never considered giving a blowjob or handling a penis and balls would be required in this line of work.

    I have no idea if there would have been a no hassle, no discussion BBFSCIP or even a totally renegotiated one because our session never got close to that. She had laid out two packages of condoms in the center of the bed. And at one point I did slip my finger just as far as the first knuckle into her pussy and felt some kind of obstruction right there near the entrance. Some kind of birth control device or perhaps the sponge some girls put inside when they are having their period. I have no idea. But whatever it was it felt rough and abrasive. So I would not have wanted to put my dick in there to rub against it anyway.

    And the notion of having to stop everything for another 2-3 minutes to deal with whatever that sand paper device was in there even if a "go with the flow" method got that far was more than my very basic Thai language skills could handle.

    After giving up on trying to teach her how to give at least an ok blowjob instead of a terrible one as pleasantly and amusingly as I could, I decided this class must come to an end and I decided to just have both of us lay down and cuddle for a while.

    I moved her hand to my crotch area to at least feel her touching me there for a few minutes. She barely moved her hand down there. I reached down and tried to get her to move it or do something. But it wasn't going to happen.

    That is when I aborted the mission and told her I was going to take a shower and leave. Which she accepted just fine, no resistance about that decision at all. It was about 50 minutes into my 90 minute session.

    This was practically a repeat of my previous Snow White session 6-7 years ago with a different girl.

    I did hand her a 200 baht tip. I have stopped trying to figure out if these clumsy, utterly inept and impossible to show or teach girls are trying their best but are really that bad at engaging in something remotely like a blowjob, fondling a penis and balls and sex or if they are only pretending to be that bad at it just so I will abort the mission and get the hell out of their shop ASAP. LOL Either way, I could not justify giving her any more than that on top of the 2,400 thb fee I paid upfront and having only spent a dreary 50 minutes in that room with her.

    Well, I am sure everything she tried to do would have been just fine, probably even great to a 19 year old virgin. So I can't say this kind of halting, stalling, stop and go and stop, clumsy and inept session would be bad for everyone. Obviously, these places stay in business and are frequented by men all the time.

    Unfortunately, I am neither 19 nor a virgin.

    As always, YMMV.

  3. #21058
    Quote Originally Posted by NewtonYork  [View Original Post]
    ….But never having been to any of them personally, just by going on the photos on their websites, are the chicks really that hot?…….
    The answer is "some of them".

    I only go to these places 3 or 4 times per year and Butterflies is my primary go-to place, though I have also gone to Full Moon. I pick a girl from the in-person lineup and sometimes I will look at the website after the session. In those cases, the website pictures have been spot on. When I look at the webpage lineup about 75% look doable, while in person lineup only about 25% look doable.

    The BBFS that you mention is only available from some of the girls, perhaps 30%. Expect to pay an extra 2000 baht in the room directly to the girl. I have been more than satisfied with these services from both Full Moon and Butterflies.

  4. #21057
    Quote Originally Posted by NewtonYork  [View Original Post]
    It's obvious to me these 4 joints are operated by the same people, from the simple fact that their website outside of Thailand can only be accessed via VPN, for me anyway here in the shitty states. I missed out on them by mere months. On my last trip, within months of me leaving Butterfly opened, and I think the other 3 joints followed quickly. I understand these places have some BBFS. But never having been to any of them personally, just by going on the photos on their websites, are the chicks really that hot?

    I mean, I kinda doubt it. With photo editing, and the way cell phone filters can make any chick look like a supermodel these days, it's highly unlikely these chicks are that gorgeous, but from some of yous boots on the ground, what would you rate the chicks looks wise? In general.

    I'm not talking about prices or services provided, just the looks in general. I'd also think that they shuffle the girls around these 4 joints most likely.

    But there is hope though. Cause if the chick is a 6, the website makes them look like a 9. Here, look at around 12:06
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McTaEOLvKKU

    and you'll find some of the Cherry chicks sitting outside and they look kinda bad. Easily a 3 or 4. But the Cherry website makes them look like a doable 6. So, I suspect, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I think most of the chicks in Princess, Full Moon, Butterfly and Paradise will be easily 7s and up.
    Cherry & Paradise are operated by the same owners unless the situation has changed this year.

  5. #21056
    Quote Originally Posted by NewtonYork  [View Original Post]
    It's obvious to me these 4 joints are operated by the same people, from the simple fact that their website outside of Thailand can only be accessed via VPN, for me anyway here in the shitty states. I missed out on them by mere months. On my last trip, within months of me leaving Butterfly opened, and I think the other 3 joints followed quickly. I understand these places have some BBFS. But never having been to any of them personally, just by going on the photos on their websites, are the chicks really that hot?

    I mean, I kinda doubt it. With photo editing, and the way cell phone filters can make any chick look like a supermodel these days, it's highly unlikely these chicks are that gorgeous, but from some of yous boots on the ground, what would you rate the chicks looks wise? In general.

    I'm not talking about prices or services provided, just the looks in general. I'd also think that they shuffle the girls around these 4 joints most likely.

    But there is hope though. Cause if the chick is a 6, the website makes them look like a 9. Here, look at around 12:06
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McTaEOLvKKU

    and you'll find some of the Cherry chicks sitting outside and they look kinda bad. Easily a 3 or 4. But the Cherry website makes them look like a doable 6. So, I suspect, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I think most of the chicks in Princess, Full Moon, Butterfly and Paradise will be easily 7s and up.
    Yes 7 is probably about right. Of course, the photos are enhanced but generally it's not a problem for me as I never ask for one.

    Particular girl. I go along and as soon as they pull out the IPad with the photos, I just ask to see the girls then take my pick.

    My main advice as always is to go with your instincts. That way you avoid choosing someone who when you arrive the vibe is all wrong or they look.

    Completely disinterested.

  6. #21055

    Princess, Full Moon, Paradise and the one that started it all: Butterfly

    It's obvious to me these 4 joints are operated by the same people, from the simple fact that their website outside of Thailand can only be accessed via VPN, for me anyway here in the shitty states. I missed out on them by mere months. On my last trip, within months of me leaving Butterfly opened, and I think the other 3 joints followed quickly. I understand these places have some BBFS. But never having been to any of them personally, just by going on the photos on their websites, are the chicks really that hot?

    I mean, I kinda doubt it. With photo editing, and the way cell phone filters can make any chick look like a supermodel these days, it's highly unlikely these chicks are that gorgeous, but from some of yous boots on the ground, what would you rate the chicks looks wise? In general.

    I'm not talking about prices or services provided, just the looks in general. I'd also think that they shuffle the girls around these 4 joints most likely.

    But there is hope though. Cause if the chick is a 6, the website makes them look like a 9. Here, look at around 12:06
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McTaEOLvKKU

    and you'll find some of the Cherry chicks sitting outside and they look kinda bad. Easily a 3 or 4. But the Cherry website makes them look like a doable 6. So, I suspect, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I think most of the chicks in Princess, Full Moon, Butterfly and Paradise will be easily 7s and up.

  7. #21054
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    No surcharge? Last time I was there they were adding 500 baht if you wanted to slip it in the rice exit. Have they repealed that?
    I don't like A+ so it never came up. But no mention of anything extra like some girls do at these shops. The point was that she just went with the flow. Perhaps she knows I tip well from one of the other girls. The other extra most talked about by Tooms was never discussed but not once did she ask me to wear one.

  8. #21053
    Quote Originally Posted by EverythingThai  [View Original Post]
    Where GFE and PSE Collide.

    Dropped into Snow White Massage this week, and once again it proved why it's one of the best.

    Experience:

    Picked a spinner with a wicked grin. Service? A perfect GFE / PSE hybrid. Started slow, real touching, real kissing (none of that dead fish nonsense). Then once things heated up, she shifted gears like a pro, full-on porn star energy, but without feeling robotic.

    No "menu" flashing in your face, no "extra 1000 baht for this, 2000 baht for that". In fact, a lot of extras came naturally once the vibe was right, full access, zero complaints, and the kind of session that doesn't feel like you're watching a taximeter the whole time.

    Price:

    Standard house fee, decent tip after (because when it's that good, you tip). No nickel-and-diming. No regret.

    Bonus:

    If you've got even an ounce of social skills, a lot of these girls will offer you more without even asking. Treat them like humans and the GFE cranks up to 11 real fast.

    Snow White is still one of the few places where a monger can get the full experience, the fantasy, the fun, and the freaky, without feeling like he's being upsold at every corner.
    No surcharge? Last time I was there they were adding 500 baht if you wanted to slip it in the rice exit. Have they repealed that?

  9. #21052
    Quote Originally Posted by Toto001  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    I will be visiting Bangkok first time soon and therefore was looking into the girls on display in some massage clubs like Cherry, also on Thaifriendly page.

    I must say that among hundreds of photos I did not fknd any girl that attracts me.

    No comparison to Dubai or to German FKK clubs were you find slim girls with nice boobs. Most girls in Thailand seem to short for the weight of 53 kg this is a good weight when a girl is 173.

    Is it really like this. That one can not expect beautiful young girls with a nice body? If this is not available, aren't there bars in Bangkok where one would have the chance to meet non- Thai freelancers who look better?

    Greetings and thanks.
    You're looking in the wrong places if you're just checking Cherry or ThaiFriendly. The type of girls you want — slim, beautiful, younger — absolutely exist in Bangkok.

    You'll find a lot of them connected to upscale massage clubs and karaoke lounges in areas like Ratchada and Lat Phrao, places that mainly cater to upscale Thais and Asians who know where to look.

    On top of that, you've got places like The Pimp Club, upscale gentlemen's clubs in Bangkok, and massage venues around Soi 22 Sukhumvit where you'll find stunning girls who don't waste time on dating apps. They are in Rama 9 massage shops as well, RCA and also in areas such as Ekamai clubs and Thonglor clubs. They all have white skin as well.

    Bangkok definitely has what you're after — you just need better access.

    Quote Originally Posted by TConor  [View Original Post]
    I hope this doesn't sound like reverse psychology and you think we want you to come. There are already too many newbies coming who just jack up the prices and spoil it for the rest of us. Nothing but short fat flat chested old hags here.
    "I get where you're coming from, but honestly, every generation of mongers has worried about 'newbies' changing the scene. Truth is, Bangkok always adapts, and there are still plenty of great options if you know where to go. Prices haven't gone up because of newbies; it's just natural evolution in a popular city. Plus, the original poster seems to be after elegant, classy ladies like you find in Dubai, maybe Bangkok's more wild, laid-back vibe just isn't what he's really looking for. " You don't want what he wants.

  10. #21051

    Snow White

    Where GFE and PSE Collide.

    Dropped into Snow White Massage this week, and once again it proved why it's one of the best.

    Experience:

    Picked a spinner with a wicked grin. Service? A perfect GFE / PSE hybrid. Started slow, real touching, real kissing (none of that dead fish nonsense). Then once things heated up, she shifted gears like a pro, full-on porn star energy, but without feeling robotic.

    No "menu" flashing in your face, no "extra 1000 baht for this, 2000 baht for that". In fact, a lot of extras came naturally once the vibe was right, full access, zero complaints, and the kind of session that doesn't feel like you're watching a taximeter the whole time.

    Price:

    Standard house fee, decent tip after (because when it's that good, you tip). No nickel-and-diming. No regret.

    Bonus:

    If you've got even an ounce of social skills, a lot of these girls will offer you more without even asking. Treat them like humans and the GFE cranks up to 11 real fast.

    Snow White is still one of the few places where a monger can get the full experience, the fantasy, the fun, and the freaky, without feeling like he's being upsold at every corner.

  11. #21050

    Please go elsehwhere

    Quote Originally Posted by Toto001  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    I will be visiting Bangkok first time soon and therefore was looking into the girls on display in some massage clubs like Cherry, also on Thaifriendly page.

    I must say that among hundreds of photos I did not fknd any girl that attracts me.

    No comparison to Dubai or to German FKK clubs were you find slim girls with nice boobs. Most girls in Thailand seem to short for the weight of 53 kg this is a good weight when a girl is 173.

    Is it really like this. That one can not expect beautiful young girls with a nice body? If this is not available, aren't there bars in Bangkok where one would have the chance to meet non- Thai freelancers who look better?

    Greetings and thanks.
    I hope this doesn't sound like reverse psychology and you think we want you to come. There are already too many newbies coming who just jack up the prices and spoil it for the rest of us. Nothing but short fat flat chested old hags here.

  12. #21049
    Quote Originally Posted by Toto001  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    I will be visiting Bangkok first time soon and therefore was looking into the girls on display in some massage clubs like Cherry, also on Thaifriendly page.

    I must say that among hundreds of photos I did not fknd any girl that attracts me.

    No comparison to Dubai or to German FKK clubs were you find slim girls with nice boobs. Most girls in Thailand seem to short for the weight of 53 kg this is a good weight when a girl is 173.

    Is it really like this. That one can not expect beautiful young girls with a nice body? If this is not available, aren't there bars in Bangkok where one would have the chance to meet non- Thai freelancers who look better?

    Greetings and thanks.
    Those photos are very different than boots on the ground Toto. You'll find most of them tend to look better in real life, while some of them will look much worse in real life. Just like anywhere in the world. And if you have a thing for tall chicks, then Thailand is not for you, cause Asian chicks be short in general anyway. Thailand is well known as a paradise for many good reasons, give it a chance before you write it off based on some photos. And remember, these are the chicks that are willing to show their face. Plenty more, you won't see until you get there. Some of them are stunning beyond words. Granted, I experienced some real stunners too in my Prague and Germany days, but when it comes to overall value for money, Thailand is hard to beat.

  13. #21048

    Looks of the girls

    Hi guys,

    I will be visiting Bangkok first time soon and therefore was looking into the girls on display in some massage clubs like Cherry, also on Thaifriendly page.

    I must say that among hundreds of photos I did not fknd any girl that attracts me.

    No comparison to Dubai or to German FKK clubs were you find slim girls with nice boobs. Most girls in Thailand seem to short for the weight of 53 kg this is a good weight when a girl is 173.

    Is it really like this. That one can not expect beautiful young girls with a nice body? If this is not available, aren't there bars in Bangkok where one would have the chance to meet non- Thai freelancers who look better?

    Greetings and thanks.

  14. #21047
    Quote Originally Posted by PlantSmoke  [View Original Post]
    Soi 24: on this street you take the first jag to the left. Maybe 8-10 masssager parlors here.
    BBFS "a gogo" in this area. But make sure you are on PREP and / or have PEP available.

  15. #21046

    Soapy

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleSam2040  [View Original Post]
    Hi. I am looking for recommendations to try Soapy massage. I came across BkkVice which provides soapy massage. Anyone tried this place? Would you recommend it? Or any other place I should try? Thanks.
    Go to La belle.

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