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  1. #2587
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    Please give us a better distinguishing term for a lady with a day job who doesn't walk the streets but hooks up with the occasional customer.
    Why does it matter if she is not coming to you for the purposes of the day job? The day job literally has nothing to do with nothing. We could go on ad infinitum with this. What should we call a lady who cooks fish on Tuesdays, but goes to fuck guys for money 3 nights per week? A lady whose favorite color is brown, but goes to fuck guys for money 6 days per month? A lady whose uncle is a ballet dancer, but she does 3 Short Times from Thai Friendly everyday? The only relevant thing is her fucking for money.

  2. #2586
    I remember when I first started going to Thermae. It was supposedly a bar full of non-pros. That's what guys called it. I thought cool I can bang some girls who aren't every day working girls. Then I go a few nights in a row. Wait. These same non-pros are there every night! If you talk to them they will all say they have day jobs but work at Thermae at night. Then you see them banging 3 customers in quick succession over a night. Then I think to myself these non-pros are banging more guys daily than my "pro" Pattaya gogo girl who usually takes 1 guy LT per day, if they're lucky.

    I agree a non pro would be an office worker who on occasion sells herself for money but we can't clump them all into a single basket.

    A civilian on the other hand is a girl who imo NEVER takes money for sex and would be insulted if you paid them. Imagine me picking up a civilian girl at a bar in my home country, banging her, and then offer her money for that? I'd likely get smacked across the face. Now I can buy her a "gift" and she'd take it in a second.

  3. #2585

    When the word Prostitute is offensive to your sensibilities. LOL!

    Please give us a better distinguishing term for a lady with a day job who doesn't walk the streets but hooks up with the occasional customer.
    I have always called them Under-the-Rador (UTR) or Non-Pro. A regular girl will not take money for sex.

  4. #2584
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Dude I just fucked a chick the other day for money who works at a desk in a government office. She was not with me as a civvie; she was with me as a hooker. A prostitute by any other name is still selling pussy.
    Please give us a better distinguishing term for a lady with a day job who doesn't walk the streets but hooks up with the occasional customer.

  5. #2583

    Orange is the new red?

    I think I'm slowly coming to terms with the fact that my brokerage account is constantly in the red now, and may never recover. Sure, I've lost 20 to 30 percent of value in a matter of days, and I'm miserable at my job. Groceries are thru the roof. But it's only going to get worse, so we might as well buckle up. This is just the beginning of how shitty things are going to be. I say let's bring on WW3!

    Bring on the nukes baby!

  6. #2582
    Quote Originally Posted by NewtonYork  [View Original Post]
    Yes. We each have our own standards and thresholds of what we think is acceptable payment for services rendered. If you can afford more, sure why not. If you like to pay less, and it's available, absolutely go for it. In my decades of hobbying in a number of countries around the world, when the world was cheaper anyway, I've never paid more than 500 bucks, and never less than 50 bucks. And the more costly ones were multi hour bookings.

    But considering I haven't hobbied in a little while, and how expensive life has become, I suspect, if I ever get to hobby again, it's going to cost me.
    My range is $350 : free: to made money off the girls to add to my stack. 555. Pimping ain't dead.

  7. #2581
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    I am so sorry for using the term "civvie" in a manner that confused you.

    I meant civvie in the sense that she doesn't work bar, or a massage shop, and isn't a freelancer.
    Dude I just fucked a chick the other day for money who works at a desk in a government office. She was not with me as a civvie; she was with me as a hooker. A prostitute by any other name is still selling pussy.

  8. #2580
    Quote Originally Posted by ElMexicant  [View Original Post]
    Girls tell me they want to put that powder all over my skin. I said, I am already white as can be. That's why I wear sunblock. They say it is to protect me from Casper the Ghost and his buddies. Revelations.
    They know how to blend in with the ghosts the same as foreign mongers say to blend in with the locals.

  9. #2579
    Quote Originally Posted by NewtonYork  [View Original Post]
    This forum is as close to Thailand as I'll ever be able to get these days, and I thank Satan for this place. I think I woulda unlifed myself months ago if I didn't get to type shit in here. I don't get to express myself at work, most of my family is gone and all my friends are long dead. I don't know what I'm living for anymore. It's literally only Thailand. The Thailand I remember, combined with the perfect version I know is waiting for me when I get to go back. I had a hard time breathing today, just after I bent down to pick something up. I thought I was having a heart attack and you know what? I was ok with it. Some nights I'd wake up from not being able to breathe. And I'd still be ok with it. Every night now, I just say to myself, I'm ready. I'm good to call it a life.

    But is it just Thailand making me hold on? Could I even survive a few nights of debauchery with sidegra and alcohol in my system? It'd be the ultimate irony if I finally made it back to Thailand and died the first night there. But what a night it would be. And I'd be dead in Thailand. That's all that matters.

    You read countless stories of farangs dying in Thailand for one reason or other, but no one ever notes how happy they were when they died. Sure, maybe they got thrown off a building, or drowned, or got killed in a car accident while riding on a bike without a helmet, but the point is, they were happy up until the moment they died.

    Think about if folks. Wouldn't you rather be happy until you died? You guys have no idea how lucky your are. You're killing time here, bitching and moaning cause you've lost sight of how lucky you are to be in Thailand. Go out there and live. Enjoy life fellas. Get your groove on. Live for those of us that can't.

    Look at this 21 year old moron, died of an overdose. But I bet he was happy right up to that point. While I'm miserable all the time. What I wouldn't give to be a 21 year old to die in Thailand from a drug overdose. Now, that's paradise

    https://thethaiger.com/news/pattaya/british-fighters-life-cut-short-by-drug-cocktail-in-pattaya-inquest
    We've all experienced low points in our lives, but as long as you keep your dream alive, you'll be OK!

    Just don't forget to buy a weekly lottery ticket! It's your Official License to dream! LOL.

  10. #2578

    Bar Fines in Pattaya and other locations in Thailand

    Many posters have problems with Bar Fines in Pattaya. But are they really a problem that gets in the way of enjoying the services of a prostitute you wish to hire or just another expense that some simply do not want to incur? Some even claim they are illegal? But are they?

    There are no bar fines in Sosua. They call it PIMPING, and PIMPING IS ILLEGAL!
    But this is Thailand is it not. How can someone who has never visited Thailand speak on the issue. They are many ISG posters who claim to have more knowledge about Thailand and Pattaya.

    Is a Bar Fine illegal in Thailand? Are the owners of the venues that charge Bar Fines Pimps?

    Here is something that a individual who has NEVER actually been to Thailand would not understand about a Bar Fine. Our posters from the Dis-United States of America should have understanding as I break down into simple terms for those living outside of Thailand who have never actually visited here. A Bar Fine is actually like a Tariff. It is paid by the girl who has the contract agreement with the venue and then passed onto you. You can ask a girl to leave the bar and not even be in the bar. She will tell you that her that the Bar Fine is XXXX THB and her price is XXXX THB. You will pay one all inclusive price when she arrives at your place once she gets the service. She has to trust you to do this as SHE actually pays the Bar Fine and is counting your the customer to reimburse her. This is the same way that Tariffs work. Something that I might add is really irritating individuals from the future 51st State of the Dis-United States of America.

    I am interested to hear from people who have been to both Sosua and Pattaya especially. Because the OP who wrote the above statement has never been to Thailand, Cockbang or Pattaya. Is a Bar Fine illegal in Thailand? Are the owners of the venues that charge Bar Fines Pimps?

  11. #2577

    The Cmdr Speaks

    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    Many guys go to Pattaya looking for a girlfriend. This inevitably leads of a big sad and an empty bank account.
    Can you back this up with any empirical evidence? Or is this like your estimate of the number of prostitutes in Pattaya?

    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    I know many bargirls on the prowl for lonely guys, and when they are drunk in my condo, they often brag about how much money they take off a guy, or tell stories about the gullibility of their victims.
    I can show you what a victim looks like. Just meet me in person. Guys who send money are not victims. No one is forcing them to send money. They can stop at any time. Reading your posts I often feel like a am victim. A victim of a time bandit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    The flip side of the equation is when a Farang fools a bargirl. They start with promises of riches, or a house, when recede into the future as the Farang thinks he has the lady snagged.
    It called the GAME for a reason. Easy to see when you don't have bar girls sitting on your face 024/007/365.

    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    I often describe bargirls like they are masterminds in manipulating customers, but it's not intelligence, it's experience. So, they themselves can be manipulated by Farang customers.
    Just the game. Get used to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    I have been around the ladies long enough for them to know I'm not a prospect for long term gain. So, the only manipulation from them is trying to get a trip somewhere. Many want to travel for three or four days, that's how long they can go before their Thai boyfriend or family start complaining.
    Roll the applause track.

    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    Anyway, don't go looking for love in Pattaya.
    I do believe this is the ONLY thing I have read that you have written that I agree with.

    Hey I switched up. Buying silver not gold. With gold at 3200 USD / ounce. One 2 Baht Chain is 3000 USD / Not about the money. As some of my individual pieces are up over 50% since I bought them. Any shirts lost? If so I can buy new ones. In fact that is what I have done. I stopped by my tailor for some custom made Pajamas that I can were outside and matching shirt and shorts for the Songkran Festival. So much for worries about my stack. Back to GOLD. It is about my neck. Someone will break / cut yo neck for that kind of money. So I am following the advice of the Wu-Tang Clan. Protect yo neck!

    Not trading much. Not many opportunities. I do not like to short. I'm enjoying my stack. Still got my flow (not dependent upon the stock market). Fucking for 1000 - 1500 THB (26.30 - 39.45). I just don't give a fuck what other mother fucks think of my price point. Because if you cannot afford that, you have no reason to get on the plane to do International Trickin. You show me a place with infrastructure in place like Pattaya where you can hire girls to be your prostitute at that price point. If you want to pay more, far be it from me to be critical of having a bigger stack than I do and being willing to spend it.

    I heard they marked down the price of the entry level Harley to under 10,000 USD. I'm going to see if the tariffs will fuck me up or will I be able to get one of those bitches for under ten grand. If so, soon I'll be able to ask: Shorty wanna ride wit me?

    ROTFLMAO!

  12. #2576

    Thank Lucifer for this place

    This forum is as close to Thailand as I'll ever be able to get these days, and I thank Satan for this place. I think I woulda unlifed myself months ago if I didn't get to type shit in here. I don't get to express myself at work, most of my family is gone and all my friends are long dead. I don't know what I'm living for anymore. It's literally only Thailand. The Thailand I remember, combined with the perfect version I know is waiting for me when I get to go back. I had a hard time breathing today, just after I bent down to pick something up. I thought I was having a heart attack and you know what? I was ok with it. Some nights I'd wake up from not being able to breathe. And I'd still be ok with it. Every night now, I just say to myself, I'm ready. I'm good to call it a life.

    But is it just Thailand making me hold on? Could I even survive a few nights of debauchery with sidegra and alcohol in my system? It'd be the ultimate irony if I finally made it back to Thailand and died the first night there. But what a night it would be. And I'd be dead in Thailand. That's all that matters.

    You read countless stories of farangs dying in Thailand for one reason or other, but no one ever notes how happy they were when they died. Sure, maybe they got thrown off a building, or drowned, or got killed in a car accident while riding on a bike without a helmet, but the point is, they were happy up until the moment they died.

    Think about if folks. Wouldn't you rather be happy until you died? You guys have no idea how lucky your are. You're killing time here, bitching and moaning cause you've lost sight of how lucky you are to be in Thailand. Go out there and live. Enjoy life fellas. Get your groove on. Live for those of us that can't.

    Look at this 21 year old moron, died of an overdose. But I bet he was happy right up to that point. While I'm miserable all the time. What I wouldn't give to be a 21 year old to die in Thailand from a drug overdose. Now, that's paradise

    https://thethaiger.com/news/pattaya/british-fighters-life-cut-short-by-drug-cocktail-in-pattaya-inquest

  13. #2575

    That is true

    Yes. We each have our own standards and thresholds of what we think is acceptable payment for services rendered. If you can afford more, sure why not. If you like to pay less, and it's available, absolutely go for it. In my decades of hobbying in a number of countries around the world, when the world was cheaper anyway, I've never paid more than 500 bucks, and never less than 50 bucks. And the more costly ones were multi hour bookings.

    But considering I haven't hobbied in a little while, and how expensive life has become, I suspect, if I ever get to hobby again, it's going to cost me.

  14. #2574
    Many guys go to Pattaya looking for a girlfriend. This inevitably leads of a big sad and an empty bank account.

    I know many bargirls on the prowl for lonely guys, and when they are drunk in my condo, they often brag about how much money they take off a guy, or tell stories about the gullibility of their victims.

    The flip side of the equation is when a Farang fools a bargirl. They start with promises of riches, or a house, when recede into the future as the Farang thinks he has the lady snagged. I often describe bargirls like they are masterminds in manipulating customers, but it's not intelligence, it's experience. So, they themselves can be manipulated by Farang customers.

    I have been around the ladies long enough for them to know I'm not a prospect for long term gain. So, the only manipulation from them is trying to get a trip somewhere. Many want to travel for three or four days, that's how long they can go before their Thai boyfriend or family start complaining.

    Anyway, don't go looking for love in Pattaya.

  15. #2573

    Self Delusion is a epidemic among International Tricks

    I will start by saying you mother fucks (including myself) are International Tricks. You hire prostitutes. You pay them to provide social / sexual services. The prostitutes are there to get paid. As long as you do not abuse them, it's just a job. It does not matter if you are high end or low end in your spending habits. All the money you spend that you do not hand to your prostitute is for yourself. All International Tricks (including myself) need to keep that in mind and not practice self delusion.

    I see posts from individuals operating at the low end of the market. They say that is the way to do it. I see people operating at the high end of the market saying that is the way to do it. I operate at market prices. Is my way the way to do it? Honestly, I don't know. What I do know is that I have more access to prostitutes I find attractive than I have the time, inclination or money to fuck.

    There is no one way, or best way to get pussy. When you start writing posts that indicate your way is the only way, you are engaged in Self Delusion.

    I'm crazy and even I don't do that!

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