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  1. #59488

    Great realistic reporting by Crater

    Quote Originally Posted by Crater77  [View Original Post]
    So this was last full day. Wake up late, did BF, went to rooftop pool had a wine while I was there and then comeback to room. Took shower and was sitting and Earthquake happened. Stayed in room, went under the table and once it stopped, picked up my passport came outside hotel in huddle area.

    Entire hotel was standing and people were running and some were really scared. Some from buildings and hotels beyond our alley were still running and coming out.

    Fear factor was high for an hour and then people started drinking beers in the bars.

    But most of locals were not going back in.

    I had an irish bar 3 minutes walking from my hotel and it had people sitting out and drinking beer. I too joined them. FYI. I am pretty used to EQ's where I live but this one was one of the scariest and longest I experienced.

    I too went to a bar across the street from Irish bar and ordered beer.

    Some of the patrons in the bar were a german couple, britt and American gentlemen and we just chatted and talked about what happened and shared some experiences.

    My original plan was to LT / outcall a girl from Addict. I messaged mamamsan on line to confirm if the girls had started and no reply came. This was couple of hours after EQ. I went for lunch and decided to take some genuine massage. Searched on phone and had one relax spa (seems like a chain) and another one right across my hotel (almost a full building) showed up. Both were 5 minutes walking in opposite directions. Went to both and they were both closed.

    It was at this time I realized the traffic was all stuck and BTS was also not running.

    My OG plan of final day- of LT from addict in the afternoon, Soapy in evening and Billboard pickup from NP was all looking like falling apart.

    I messaged few others on Line and most didn't responded and some responded like closed and few responded with pics of who all were available. BTS was not running, no cars were moving.

    Behind my hotel is massage shops. All genuine and I decided lets go to one of those and get the massage.

    Went for oil massage the guy took me in and washed my feet and then I told him that I want a female masseur. Since this was genuine massage I kept the undies. Lady came in and started the massage and told me to take off the underwear. Took it off. Massage started and it was a regular massage but on flip she asked me if I want a release. I said why not. She quoted me 2000. I said skip it. I didn't wanted it plus she was ok not a stunner and there was no way she would take her clothes off. There was a curtain that closed the massage area. Anyhow she said what I want to give. I said 600 for massage and 400 for her.

    She started and gave me a HJ. She did it very discreetly and was paying close attention to outside noise while jerking me.

    So I got a genuine massage and paid another 400 for HJ.

    Came out and next to this shop was a bar with pool tables. I still had few hours to kill before heading to Soapy. Saw a real pretty girl sitting inside. I went and sat opposite her. Ordered beer and asked how does the pool thing work.

    My focus was on the girl only. She looked like a local girl was dressed nicely with nails done well. I would have asked her to join me in drink but I stopped because she had 2 bottles of water on her table. I thought she was waiting for someone. Any how I had a beer to finish and I got drink for my waitress and other one as well and started pool with one of the waitress (she was like 50 ish) but all I was trying to do was.

    1. See if I can strike a conversation with the girl sitting right across.

    2. Ask the waitresses if they get FL's that hang out late at night.

    Played 2 games and finished my beer and this girl was still sitting alone and then suddenly one of the 2 guys who were playing pool in adjacent table came and talked to this girl. Looked like her boyfriend but for last 35 minutes this dude didn't came to say Hi to her and she was dead bored all this time.

    My plan was to ask her to join us for next game but glad I didn't. I asked the waitress and then gave me inconclusive answers if FL will be there at night. Wrapped up and left after beer and pool.

    Now traffic was still there. I walked to thermae and it was closed.

    Called La belle and no one was picking and IVR kept saying some stuff in Thai. I checked and Cab was showing 45 minutes and walking was 29 minutes. It was at this time I realized many things will be closed. I decided today is the day I spend all my time at Nana Plaza. Got ready walked and fuuuuccccccck. It was closed. The entire complex was dark.

    I said let me pick someone from street. I decided to go back and pick someone on street. Talked with few but didn't liked anyone. Then outside thermae saw few beauties. I talked with few and checked them out. Finally like one 26 year old and she asked for 3 K for ST. Told her BJ with no condom ok but she was bad at English. Had another 40 year old who came over to explain it to her and she said ok. Then all of sudden old 40 year old said she too can join. I told her I only want younger one then all of a sudden she said money in advance.

    I told older one I do not pay advance and ignored her. I talked directly to this younger girl. I gave her my hand and said I will take care of her and my hotel is 5 minutes walk. She stood and held my hand and we started walking. She was wearing right size heal, ripped jeans and tank top with pretty big boobs. She had that Girl next door look.

    Walked to my hotel, went to room. Did some foreplay. Told here to undress in front of me. She took shower. I made myself a drink and she came out wrapped in towel. I then went for shower and when I came out she had turned of most of the lights. Started with BJ, she sucked great and I just kept asking her to do more and more. Very nice eye contact. Then did my usual Cowgirl, Doggy and then missionary with DFK. I made her give me a long BJ and then another 20 minutes of fucking. I finally came in with slow sensual missionary. Her pussy was just right amount of tight and she was pretty submissive.

    Paid the money and said GN. Final day had a great ending.

    It was a 4 day trip. Did missed out on Soapies and Billboard and also BC or Pimp. So next time.

    I did used TF, WeChat, Telegram and Line. I will share my experience with all these in separate post. This forum is great and I had great time learning and exchanging notes from folks in this forum.
    I would like to thank Crater77 for his most recent realistic reports about Bangkok. This is just one of the many examples. Nothing in here about propositioning street vendors or the promise of taking a girl to Tomorrow Land next year by showing here fake tickets in exchange for sex. Just solid reporting. These are the things that count on ISG. Thanks again Crater. I am glad you had a great time in Soi Cowboy. I'm also sorry to read about the doorman at Crazy House asking you to pay an entry fee. That is not the norm but I have witnessed that happening on Soi Cowboy to Indian dudes. Regardless of your nationality or race, you should not be treated that way. As I have again seen, either some doormen will ask these guys to pay an entry fee or ask them to buy their 1st drink outside before they are allowed in. You did the right thing to walk away. Another bar was happy to take your money. One tip for you for Crazy House. If you ever want to go back, just say last time you were there you didn't have to pay any entry fee. Let them think you have been before. No excuse for that idiot door man. You were clearly there to spend money and proved it the next spot you went in. Their loss. I love Baccara too. I just like the idea of Crazy House as it's the closest to a Pattaya gents club as you can get in Bangkok with the exception of the pricing, which is much higher. The girls are fully naked and walking around the club and you can do shit with them upstairs on the 2nd floor sometimes. Anyways, thanks again, I enjoyed reading all of your reports. Hope you will return again soon and report.

  2. #59487

    Bangkok Pricing: A Realistic Look for Mongers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarjarmissa  [View Original Post]
    Monday evening, terrific on Sukhumvit. They are supposed to stop splashing but it is up to them. Quite difficult to reach my fav diner place. Krua Khun Puk -, I succeed by walking down the street and not on the walkside where water battle are in progress. This Songkran is really fun. Unless you want to do something not wet then it becomes a nightmare.

    Anyway, diner done are then Thermae. We are 3 or 4 Caucasians and 100 asiat. So clearly except the 3 on Dick scale smile at us. The line up is not attractive (from 3 to 6 maybe) so after a drink I decide to give up and go back to the hotel in Sukhumvit15 at midnight. Oh street is calm. No water machine gun to avoid.

    Few hours of scouting (Tinder is KO in Thailand. TF a bit better. Finally I catch 4 girls via WeChat. Last app to propose "Nearby connected people" Finally I do not conclude with the girls (2 FL 4000 and 6000 baths no way and 2 tourists reluctant to visit a man at 2 or 3 am).

    Finally I try something for the 1st time (I go against some advise here), I call for a outcall massage of 2 hours for 1000 baths (yes 1000,26 euros for 2 hours).

    I can then confirm 3 points:

    1- Photos are fake. The agency sends pic "alike" but it is not same girl.

    2- Good massage (she is only 4 but she is good at what she does).

    3- Extra suggested at the end: Full service 4000 (fuck off) - CBJ 3000 (fuck off) - HK 1500. Not enough attractive to fuck her, but nice boobs I ended up with a self HJ on them.

    Total: Massage 1000 + tips 500 for 2 hours service on my king size. Next time I try again but to find a beautiful girl.

    (Massage agency 24/7 : Jenny outcall massage, google is your friend. Do I recommand yes and no, it depends what you want). I remain a huge fan of La Belle or Poseidon. Expensive but for good reason.

    Concerning the outcall massage I will maybe renew but only for what it is, a massage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zam007  [View Original Post]
    I had been to BKK a few weeks back for 2 days to catch a flight to China and took a this naughty time off. I didn't go to the gogo bars because I had to sleep and wake up on time. Stuck with trusted and reliable mps like Hunny bunny. But I had been itching to take a spinner back to my hotel from gogo.

    I noticed a lot of nice looking girls in Bacara. Even though they are overpriced, I would like to know how much do they expect be paid.

    Thanks to everyone for giving an idea of the updated prices.
    A note on Bangkok's evolution:

    The Bangkok scene isn't what it was five or ten years ago. Some still post like it is. But the city has shifted, girls are savvier, social media has changed the freelancer landscape, and access to certain experiences now comes with a price tag. If you're basing your expectations on decade-old posts or nostalgia, you're going to be disappointed. Adapt or get left behind.

    First: Negotiation is still possible.

    Just because someone quotes you 4000 Baht doesn't mean it's non-negotiable. If the vibe is good and you're respectful, you can often agree on something more reasonable. That said, this isn't Pattaya, expecting 1000-2000 Baht ST quotes from freelancers in Bangkok is out of touch, especially in the more central zones.

    Second: City dynamics affect pricing.

    Bangkok is big. Girls need to travel, often from across the city, and they're not hopping on a scooter like in Pattaya. They have jobs, routines, and day-to-day lives. In their minds, it needs to be worth the trip, and for many of them, that means higher pricing.

    Third: Thai Friendly has a different vibe in Bangkok.

    While in Pattaya 90% of TF girls are freelancers or semi-pros, Bangkok is a mix, maybe 50/50, or even less. A lot of "normal" girls are on there looking for dating, language exchange, serious relationships and yes, occasional pay for play. This waters down your options, and when you do find a freelancer, they price accordingly. Again: different city, different market.

    Fourth: Tourist zones = tourist pricing, but also quality.

    Yes, places like Soi Cowboy, Nana, and Patpong are more expensive. But they also attract some of the most attractive and polished girls. Not always, but often. If you're looking for top-tier looks and service, expect to pay more, and understand why.

    Fifth: Other options exist.

    Massage shops, BJ bars, and even Thai-style clubs like T-Ded 99 (if you speak Thai) offer much more value. You'll also find girls in areas like Ratchada and Lat Phrao who cater to Thai and Asian clientele, again, the experience is more discreet and uninhibited. Just know: language and local knowledge help a lot in these cases. Ratchada and more specifically Ratchada Soi 17 is just one of these areas. Some of the night clubs will also have freelancers. However, their pricing is all over the map. Some are high and some are more reasonable.

    WeChat, Tinder, and other apps?

    Lots of ladyboys, lots of scams, and prices can go either way. Proceed with caution.

    As for the poster who balked at a 4000 Baht quote:

    Assuming he expected 3000 Baht as more reasonable, what followed was a time-wasting adventure with a massage girl he ended up with. Honestly, I would have paid 3500, or maybe countered at 3000, and sealed the deal. Instead, the guy wasted hours and ended up jerking himself off on an ugly girls tits. That said, he took one for the team, and posted back, which is more than most do. Respect.

    Final note:

    If you want to play in Bangkok with the hottest girls, you need to accept that it's going to cost you. And if you don't want to pay Bangkok prices, Pattaya is two hours away. The market is what it is, either adjust your budget, or find the part of the city that matches it. It's just not realistic to expect the same pricing in Bangkok as it was in 2012 today.

    Quote Originally Posted by PgReal  [View Original Post]
    No such problems using TF in Bangkok. Bigger place so more girls to choose from, always plenty available 24/7 and if traffic is bad most hop on the back of a bike anyway. Don't create imaginary hurdles that don't actually exist!
    It seems that Jarjarmissa didnt have quite as easy of a time with Thai Friendly in Bangkok as the above poster claims. I dont even think Bangkok has more girls on TF than Pattaya does. This is a stat I would like to investigate further. I would bet that Pattaya has more girls using TF and most of those girls are selling pay for play. In Bangkok, there are less ladies and only some are selling pay for play. The punters who think every lady on TF is a freelancer in Bangkok and other areas except Pattaya and Phuket are dead wrong and if they dont be careful, they may have issues arising from propositioning a normal girl. There are so many regular girls in Bangkok and they dont all use Thai Friendly. To assume that is crazy. The majority of the girls in Bangkok are not even looking for a foreign boyfriend or a foreign customer. If you think Bangkok revolves around foreign tourists and all the girls are wanting to cater to them, you are so far out of touch with reality that it is not funny.

    This is why being realistic is very important. In my opinion 3000 Baht is a realistic starting point and then it can go up from there based on many factors such as venue, location, quality of the girl and the services you require. A massage shop might be a little less and a freelancer or bar girl might be a little more. But if you budget 3000 Baht per encounter, you will be safe. Hope this helps.

  3. #59486

    Outcall massage

    Monday evening, terrific on Sukhumvit. They are supposed to stop splashing but it is up to them. Quite difficult to reach my fav diner place. Krua Khun Puk -, I succeed by walking down the street and not on the walkside where water battle are in progress. This Songkran is really fun. Unless you want to do something not wet then it becomes a nightmare.

    Anyway, diner done are then Thermae. We are 3 or 4 Caucasians and 100 asiat. So clearly except the 3 on Dick scale smile at us. The line up is not attractive (from 3 to 6 maybe) so after a drink I decide to give up and go back to the hotel in Sukhumvit15 at midnight. Oh street is calm. No water machine gun to avoid.

    Few hours of scouting (Tinder is KO in Thailand. TF a bit better. Finally I catch 4 girls via WeChat. Last app to propose "Nearby connected people" Finally I do not conclude with the girls (2 FL 4000 and 6000 baths no way and 2 tourists reluctant to visit a man at 2 or 3 am).

    Finally I try something for the 1st time (I go against some advise here), I call for a outcall massage of 2 hours for 1000 baths (yes 1000,26 euros for 2 hours).

    I can then confirm 3 points:

    1- Photos are fake. The agency sends pic "alike" but it is not same girl.

    2- Good massage (she is only 4 but she is good at what she does).

    3- Extra suggested at the end: Full service 4000 (fuck off) - CBJ 3000 (fuck off) - HK 1500. Not enough attractive to fuck her, but nice boobs I ended up with a self HJ on them.

    Total: Massage 1000 + tips 500 for 2 hours service on my king size. Next time I try again but to find a beautiful girl.

    (Massage agency 24/7 : Jenny outcall massage, google is your friend. Do I recommand yes and no, it depends what you want). I remain a huge fan of La Belle or Poseidon. Expensive but for good reason.

    Concerning the outcall massage I will maybe renew but only for what it is, a massage.

  4. #59485
    Quote Originally Posted by Larbmoo555  [View Original Post]
    Many places are defaulting to double LDs so you need to specify one LD when ordering.
    Always check your bin when you get a new one after each drink order. If it says 2 drinks (double) have them take the drink and bin back and say you didn't order that. Never be pushed around by bars in Thailand.

    I can see this happening often at super tourist Nana and Cowboy. Care to name the gogo bars that do this?

    I have never had this happen in a Pattaya gogo bar and I've bought 1000's of LD over the years.

  5. #59484

    Eye Opener on the new price

    I had been to BKK a few weeks back for 2 days to catch a flight to China and took a this naughty time off. I didn't go to the gogo bars because I had to sleep and wake up on time. Stuck with trusted and reliable mps like Hunny bunny. But I had been itching to take a spinner back to my hotel from gogo.

    I noticed a lot of nice looking girls in Bacara. Even though they are overpriced, I would like to know how much do they expect be paid.

    Thanks to everyone for giving an idea of the updated prices.

  6. #59483
    Quote Originally Posted by Larbmoo555  [View Original Post]
    I have spent a lot of time in Nana over the past few weeks. One or two places I went to charged 3 k (3 k ST + 1 k BF = 4 k) or 3. 5 k (3. 5 k ST + 1 k BF = 4. 5 k), but most are charging 4 K now (4 k ST + 1 k BF so 5 k total). Beer Sing, 165-200 baht. Ladydrinks, usually 200 thb. Many places are defaulting to double LDs so you need to specify one LD when ordering. I do this every time and have never had any pushback for it from the girl or waitress (I usually just buy 2-3 LDs, have never had a girl refuse ST before).
    The rule in Nana has always been hold up your finger and say ONE Lady drink Krap. Cowboy too. Its a habit you all should have.

  7. #59482

    Songkran Nana

    Quote Originally Posted by Larbmoo555  [View Original Post]
    I have spent a lot of time in Nana over the past few weeks. One or two places I went to charged 3 k (3 k ST + 1 k BF = 4 k) or 3. 5 k (3. 5 k ST + 1 k BF = 4. 5 k), but most are charging 4 K now (4 k ST + 1 k BF so 5 k total). Beer Sing, 165-200 baht. Ladydrinks, usually 200 thb. Many places are defaulting to double LDs so you need to specify one LD when ordering. I do this every time and have never had any pushback for it from the girl or waitress (I usually just buy 2-3 LDs, have never had a girl refuse ST before).
    Yeah, was in Bunny 3. There were girls from one of the Rainbows dancing there.

    My two drinks + 3 single lady drinks was roughly 1000.

    ST was quoted as 1. 2 k BF and 3 k for the girl.

  8. #59481
    Quote Originally Posted by NewtonYork  [View Original Post]
    Tan lines on chicks are ok dude. The chicks are still hot, and sometimes tan lines make them even hotter. Even if it's extreme tan lines.
    I don't mind what colour a girl is, but always found it best if they are the same colour all over.

  9. #59480
    Quote Originally Posted by VickyCooper  [View Original Post]
    Will there still be water activity on the streets or will it be over by then. Last year my holiday was ruined with water being thrown at me.
    You have absolutely nothing to worry about. This year, Songkran will be a water-free because someone complained about getting wet during the festival.

  10. #59479

    But tan lines are ok

    Tan lines on chicks are ok dude. The chicks are still hot, and sometimes tan lines make them even hotter. Even if it's extreme tan lines.

  11. #59478

    Tomorrowland Bangkok 2026

    So if some of your don't know, this is now a confirmed thing. I am 1000% sure anybody who will have tickets, especially VIP or tent packages, will be able to pretty much fuck any girl in Bangkok without rejection. Thailand is the first Asean country to be able to host this global event. If you don't know what Tomorrowland is, then ignore this. The girls will spot out fraudsters real quick. Learn to love Sia and Dua Lipa. Normally, I don't like to share insider tips, but these tickets resale well over their face value always. Buy early and hold onto them late. I've done this before where I flash my receipt confirmation and QR codes for the event and "promise" to take GG Bar girls with the golden pussy to the events. Strippers like to play and hustle, but some of us are oooh so much better at it than them. Revelations.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3_EFWkP2RU (Video was a month old. It is now confirmed. 555).

  12. #59477

    Songkran

    Here for Songkran (believe it not, anyway.).

    - Thursday. Hotel half way between BTS Nana and Asoke.

    A tour to Thermae. All girls 4-6 max so it was a no go for me. Finally picked a girl in the street. Front of Sofitel - 29 why, look younger as usual, 2500 be for 1 hour. Not the best experience ever, still jet lagged.

    - Friday. Following recommandation read here, and the nice note in Google maps, I decide to goto Wonder Massage. Price list is in the website. A lot of girls are off for Songkran. My girl told me that Wonder has 100 customers per day. It is a plant. Was really disappointed. It could have been better with a robot. Shower, massage, BBBJ and CIM, bath. Don't even remember her name. Will not go again.

    - Saturday / Sunday: it is Songkran. Totally crazy. Street are wet wet wet. Really fun if you want to enjoy only the event (Sanam luang for families. Silom Peg13 - Khao san road Peg18). No chance to go out without been splashed. Recommandation: Grab and goto La Belle ou others. Expensive but safe.

    I stay at Ruamchit hotel and enjoy the scene. Girls in and out of the hotel with their customers (I have heard girl with a Japanese in the lobby asking him 3500 for one shot + room). 3500 from Thermae vs 5500 or 6500 at La Belle, I do not hesitate even 1 sec.

    It will be done on Wednesday so next week will be better to enjoy nana and others.

  13. #59476

    Songkran

    I'm arriving in BKK 21st April morning. Will there still be water activity on the streets or will it be over by then. Last year my holiday was ruined with water being thrown at me.

  14. #59475
    Quote Originally Posted by Downandup  [View Original Post]
    Cross off Cowboy from my plans for next Saturday, I hope that Sunday it's all over.
    Don't worry in Bangkok it's all over by then. Thursday, Friday Saturday of next week things are normal. Unlike Pattaya where it goes on still.

  15. #59474
    Quote Originally Posted by EverythingThai  [View Original Post]
    Just got back from Soi Cowboy tonight and honestly, it was madness. Songkran has the whole area packed and wild. Couldn't get anything done properly with the crowds, water, and general chaos everywhere.

    Stay safe out there.
    It's for entertaining the tourists and let them live the Songkran experience LOL.

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