Manila

[PhilJoy]

Worst experience ever leaving phillipines in the morning. Went to iron horse tonight in Burgos street! Found a cute girl grinding all over me spent $12,000 pesos on our drinks with mamasan!

Mate, sorry to be blunt, but there's your fucking / mongering problem to begin with.

Dropping 12 k on drinks without even getting a sniff of a vag?

You have just become an ATM.

City Garden. Never had a problem there with girls with ID.

It's all a game mate.

You've just got to learn how to play and win in The Phils.

The wins can be very rewarding.

_ Phil.

[Old And Ugly]

The city garden hotel makati rejected her saying they needed real government ID and would not accept hers! Either way everyone come to Colombia you will have a better time.

Possible, but also possible, that she showed the one that she knew is not accepted, probably the health card, but we'll never know if was trickery since you didn't got her into the bed. I would have paid for a cheap hotel, now that most of the balance was already settled out.

Colombia is nice, but you may end up dead there very easy, by design, or by chance.

Latinas react different to big spenders, their pussy lips get the trembles, and get all wet when they see one, I know it because I used to play south of the border for a few decades, but asians when they see the potential, concoct all kind of scenarios in their heads on how to separate you from more of your money, in a rapid and clean manor.

[WestCoast1]

Went into a local Watson's expecting to be able to buy some generic Viagra and to my shock and horror they told me I need a Prescription. Last time I was here I went back with a lot of non-controlled but prescription in the USA Drugs. Are there any pharmacies that are not strict on this? Love to get some Kamagra to take home. I'm staying in Makati.

Thanks!

Thinking CCD has not been keeping up with his Phils RTTF. I purchased generic V pills at each of the Mercury Drug stores on Makati Ave, just a jaunt across and / or up from Burgos St. See the pics. Can't remember the price, but I filed a report here in the Makati thread; you can do an advanced search to find it.

Additionally, since covid, lots of pharmacies now ask a prescription for everything. You just got to shop around.

[Charm City Dave]

Went into a local Watson's expecting to be able to buy some generic Viagra and to my shock and horror they told me I need a Prescription. Last time I was here I went back with a lot of non-controlled but prescription in the USA Drugs. Are there any pharmacies that are not strict on this? Love to get some Kamagra to take home. I'm staying in Makati.

Thanks!

[FuriousGeorge]

I have stayed at the City Garden Grand many times and have never had an issue with girls coming or leaving. Like all good hotels, they call you when the girl leaves so you can make sure you haven't been ripped off. I never have. Only good experiences. Your experience makes me doubt your approach with the girls. I'm a gringo who speaks fluent Spanish but have never felt the desire to go to Colombia based on: crime, condoms, and fat girls. That's why I stick to the Phils. Maybe try again.

The city garden hotel makati rejected her saying they needed real government ID and would not accept hers! Either way everyone come to Colombia you will have a better time.

[Expat American]

Worst experience ever leaving phillipines in the morning. Went to iron horse tonight in Burgos street! Found a cute girl grinding all over me spent $12,000 pesos on our drinks with mamasan! Even tipped good! Go to city garden hotel only to find out the girl doesn't have government ID. As soon as we leave she starts I'm so shy sir drama before we even get to the hotel. Then she try's to get me to pay to go a hotel iron horse owns instead! I returned her back to the club! Told mamasan the embarrassment I just endured. Then she tries to give me uglier girls. I told her the only girl I like there they bring her over and because I have a full size penis says 30,000 to go with me! Instead of the $5000 agreed with the other girl. P.S. $4600 bar fine which after enough of a scene they paid me back! Brutal trip in phillipines worst girls in the world and scams! I'll stick to Colombia, Brazil, Thailand.

Wow 12 K! That's a lot of drinks. I spent 4 K for 2 hours with 3 girls all over me (not Iron Horse). 11 drinks total for the girls. All girls had their tops off, all were kissing, one gave a sample BJ under the table, pretty much everything went. You have to take control of the situation. I told the girls, either you can go slow on the drinks and give me a good time and Ill stay long and buy lots of drinks or you can drink this one fast and its last drink I will buy tonight. Your choice. Guess which one they chose? I also bought 3 girls a drink and said, I'm going to choose one girl for many more drinks, and they should compete for that prize. That was a lot of fun. I did buy some more drinks for all of them because they all delivered. You have to understand, in Asia women are used to men taking charge and if you do, they will follow. If you don't, they will walk all over you and not respect you at all. In the above scenario when the waitress would hover trying to push more drinks, the girls themselves told her to go away when I started to get annoyed. Of course they begged to barfine but I had already unloaded into a PL girl earlier for 2 K so wasn't spending 10 K on that (or 20 K for two which is what they were selling).

[KbNagar]

The city garden hotel makati rejected her saying they needed real government ID and would not accept hers! Either way everyone come to Colombia you will have a better time.

This is new on me. Admittedly I have been only in City Garden Grand. When I have walked women up, they have never asked me to register. They would allow me to go directly. Sad you had this experience.

[Goferring]

They all have IDs, it was something you said or did that, made her want to ditch you, and that was the easy way out. That's what I think.

Or it was the other extreme: everyone saw P12 k being spent for a lap dance and this labelled Sir Hammer an easy mark. The girls decided to milk it for all it was worth.

It's not uncommon. Just as I said too nice an apartment can push prices up, spending too much money can see the girls push for even more with as little in return as possible.

I've seen guys buy literally trays of drinks only for girls to magically disappear when it's time to go back to the hotel.

Enjoy. G.

[Transporter]

Like other things in life, it often takes time to find what you want and and how to go about efficiently getting it. PI is not my first choice, but I am old, and don't really have patience anymore (its all about me) so being in a somewhat english speaking country has its advantages. Columbia is awesome, and if I had taken the time to learn some spanish, I think I would be visiting there more, but it is what it is.

[ArmnHammer69]

They all have IDs, it was something you said or did that, made her want to ditch you, and that was the easy way out. That's what I think.

The city garden hotel makati rejected her saying they needed real government ID and would not accept hers! Either way everyone come to Colombia you will have a better time.

[Pagalg]

Thanks Phil, KB & G for your insights. Much appreciated.

It gives me some perspective. Otherwise all the girls I talked on Pina were asking for 5 K. Guess. I need to haggle a bit.

[Old And Ugly]

Worst experience ever leaving phillipines in the morning. Went to iron horse tonight in Burgos street! Found a cute girl grinding all over me spent $12,000 pesos on our drinks with mamasan! Even tipped good! Go to city garden hotel only to find out the girl doesn't have government ID. As soon as we leave she starts I'm so shy sir drama before we even get to the hotel. Then she try's to get me to pay to go a hotel iron horse owns instead! I returned her back to the club! Told mamasan the embarrassment I just endured. Then she tries to give me uglier girls. I told her the only girl I like there they bring her over and because I have a full size penis says 30,000 to go with me! Instead of the $5000 agreed with the other girl. P.S. $4600 bar fine which after enough of a scene they paid me back! Brutal trip in phillipines worst girls in the world and scams! I'll stick to Colombia, Brazil, Thailand.

They all have IDs, it was something you said or did that, made her want to ditch you, and that was the easy way out. That's what I think.

[ArmnHammer69]

Worst experience ever leaving phillipines in the morning. Went to iron horse tonight in Burgos street! Found a cute girl grinding all over me spent $12,000 pesos on our drinks with mamasan! Even tipped good! Go to city garden hotel only to find out the girl doesn't have government ID. As soon as we leave she starts I'm so shy sir drama before we even get to the hotel. Then she try's to get me to pay to go a hotel iron horse owns instead! I returned her back to the club! Told mamasan the embarrassment I just endured. Then she tries to give me uglier girls. I told her the only girl I like there they bring her over and because I have a full size penis says 30,000 to go with me! Instead of the $5000 agreed with the other girl. P.S. $4600 bar fine which after enough of a scene they paid me back! Brutal trip in phillipines worst girls in the world and scams! I'll stick to Colombia, Brazil, Thailand.

[PhilJoy]

All bar girls gossip. They may be friends but are ready to lie for your money. They use you as a center point of their drama plot and its crazy. My $0. 02.

Mate, they're ruthless.

And I can understand that, as they're only after cash in the bigger scheme of things and coming from a poor background.

They're just not great at lying, or sending pics of their sick kids (which aren't theirs), of them suffering in pain (staged photos) or pregnancy demands ("Hang on, I was there two months later?

We're dealing with hookers here.

I still meet guys today who fall in love with 'working' girls, and generally they're first timers.

They'll work it out eventually.

I don't even bother to advise them of the potential outcome anymore as they don't want to know about it, and they can't comprehend that following their two week mission, there will be someone else's hot dog in the girl's bun.

_ Phil.

[KbNagar]

In Manila, 4 K is a good starting point for LT / overnight.

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.. believe it or not having a really nice apartment and splashing the cash can put the price up rather than be an attractant and lead to a discount; the biggest of all is have gullible newbie stamped on your forehead.

In all cases, add / subtract P500 per item or P1000 per location premium (Manila / Cebu. Regional city. Small town).

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Enjoy. G.

Agree with everything G says. I spent time in an apartment this time, and it was definitely an attraction. Flaunting Airbnb pics definitely attracts. It does move the cost up by 500 pesos or so. I was in the 4 K range all along. I was not looking for the cheapest shot. I was looking for pleasure with no rush, and pinays surprise you. If the apartment is clean with nice bathrooms, they treat you better.

All bar girls gossip. They may be friends but are ready to lie for your money. They use you as a center point of their drama plot and its crazy. My $0. 02.