American Politics

[SubCmdr]

And after listening to you douches who live abroad, I think there should be a movement to not let people who live abroad vote unless they are in the military. Because the only issue you douches care about is that the government keeps sending you checks. You do not give a fuck about the condition of the country.

Since there can be no taxation without representation I would take that deal. No more US Taxes. It is a much better deal for the Dis-United States of America to continue to tax citizens outside of its boarders. What a deal! Pay taxes but not have to provide any government resources to them. But what E2008 doesn't understand in his infinite stupidity I value the US Embassy Consulate Services. Not worth paying taxes over, but they are a very competent and efficient part of the USGOV that I pretty much interact with at least once a year all over the world.

I think that if you enter the country illegally should be banned for life from becoming a US Citizen. That would have stopped Musk at the boarder and we would not have to be dealing the the mess he is creating right now. After listing to the Republic Racists that post up in here I think that when the Democratic party returns to government their voting rights should be removed just as they are trying to to my fellow Americans currently. I care very much about the Rule of Law. Something a visitor to my country of original posting up in here cannot understand.

Two middle fingers up to our Bond King that wants to take away my rights as a US Citizen!

[Sirioja]

Inflation, recession, lost jobs, failure for Gaza and Ukraine, senile dangerous Trump looks like a loser making falling USA, at least for image and tourism, many cancelling to visit such country. My little France should stay number 1 for tourism and I would be proud if Gaza was given to Palestinians for their country, on next Summer. Fuck Netanyahou who wants never ending war.

[MarquisdeSade1]

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2025/...ence-official/

[Elvis 2008]

the self-proclaimed imbecile investing savant, whom claimed the Red Lobster's bankruptcy, was due to an all-time great Biden economy, and ignores or fails to see the real harm and destruction to the economy, his Fuhrer's "just trust me" tariffs and current Repub admin clown show are hurting Americans and...

Dude, I do not have to be an all time great investor. I can look at a balance sheet and earnings report and see Red Lobster lost more money in 2020 under Trump than any other year. More importantly, the only reason Red Lobster came up is that it went broke under Biden as did a lot of restaurants, and that fact completely did not jibe with the complete bullshit you and your fellow trolls abroad were spewing about how great the USA economy was. People who actually live in the USA saw few new restaurants being built and many going under and you and your fellow Democratic douches were lecturing us on how great restaurants were doing. LOL.

Interest rates went up under Biden, and the bottom 50% in debt had to pay more interest under Biden than Trump. So yeah, the top 10% who owned stocks did great while the bottom 50% got fucked. Again, you just ignore basic math.

We just saw the same thing with Loony Tooms telling us how stupid the people in Florida are from fucking Thailand. Of course, they are stupid. Florida went from Trump. Anyone who does not vote to send your lazy unproductive asses money abroad has to be stupid.

As for this latest idiotic rant about how great government is, let me put out one statistic to show you how full of it you are. Two out of every three paid tax dollars does not go to any government service whatsoever. It is redistributed to lazy asses like yourself. Got that? Two in three tax dollars goes to someone else. So yeah, of course, you are going to go on about how great government is when it shakes down productive people and pays your lazy ass for your vote.

The reason people are moving from New York to Florida is to get away from paying the unproductive nonworking government slugs being given millions of dollars per person in pension money.

And after listening to you douches who live abroad, I think there should be a movement to not let people who live abroad vote unless they are in the military. Because the only issue you douches care about is that the government keeps sending you checks. You do not give a fuck about the condition of the country.

[SubCmdr]

As for Mahmud Khalil, he was and is a US permanent resident, not a guest.

By definition he is a guest. Are you are guest in my country of origin also?

Or are you just another one of my fellow Americans talking your male bovine excrement about race showing your favorite colors for outerwear is a WHITE HODDIE?

Another important limitation on lawful permanent residents is that they are subject to the grounds of deportability. If you commit certain crimes or security violations, or even fail to advise USCIS of your changes of address, you can be placed in removal proceedings and deported from the United States

https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo...ifference.html

Learn what the law says before trying to school me son. You have absolutely no idea what my background was serving my fellow Americans during most of my adult life under the OATH to protect and defend The Constitution of the United States of America from all enemies foreign and domestic. Guests such as yourself don't know the law nor understand what it means to take that OATH. If I was second class citizen I would have never been allowed to take it in the first place.

How you like me now?

[SubCmdr]

You seriously want to deny that Blacks are second class citizens? If you genuinely believe that you're going to be treated as well as a white person in any encounter with the cops then that's fine. You believe it. It was just a piece of advice, don't go round mouthing off to an American cop because it won't end well for you. Bro.
All men are born equal" except the black guy yes? The same constitution which had your parents (and perhaps you) not being permitted to drink from the same faucet as the white guy
I would say shame on you but you don't deserve shame. Just contempt.

My fellow Americans, Am I a second class citizen?

Roll Call

Elvis2008? Spidy? EihTooms? MarquisdeSade1? NewtonYork? Tiny12? Goatscrot? RamDavidson?

Hell yeah, fuck racists. All 12 of them left. Thank god 99.999999% of Americans don't give a fuck about skin color!

[SubCmdr]

Mahmoud Khalil

He is not a CITZEN. Even so he has received Due Process under the RULE OF LAW!

Yes, he did!

Trump administration can proceed with Mahmoud Khalils deportation, judge rules
An immigration judge has ruled that the Trump administration can proceed with its effort to deport Mahmoud Khalil, a legal permanent resident of the U.S., in a case that Khalils attorneys and civil rights experts say has enormous implications for free speech in the U.S.

Judge Jamee Comans determined in a hearing on Friday afternoon that the government has grounds to move forward with its case against Khalil, a Palestinian student activist. His legal team has until April 23 to appeal the decision. Comans said that if his attorneys do not meet the deadline, she will order for him to be deported to Syria, where he was born, or to Algeria, where he holds citizenship.

Khalil addressed the court after the ruling, saying that neither fundamental fairness nor due process were present today or in this whole process.

This is exactly why the Trump administration sent me to this court 1,000 miles away from my family, said Khalil, whose wife, a U.S. citizen, is due to give birth to their first child this month.

Khalils legal team condemned the ruling and vowed to fight for his freedom..

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/la...dge-rcna200869

[SubCmdr]

Boeings shares slid sharply in premarket trading early Tuesday, after Bloomberg reported that the Chinese government had ordered the countrys airlines to stop taking deliveries of new aircraft from the American plane maker. The move, which also orders Chinese airline companies to stop buying aircraft parts from Boeing, is reportedly part of Chinas retaliation against President Donald Trumps 145% tariff rate on nearly all Chinese-made goods.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisdo...computer-base/#.

USGOV is buying BTC with revenue from Tariffs. ROTFLMAO.

Delta Says It Refuses To Pay Tariffs On Incoming Airbus Aircraft

https://youtu.be/yl8IJWATIZs?si=z0mioeKUMqwQHqBb

[SubCmdr]

Nvidia is working with Taiwanese electronics manufacturers Foxconn and Wistron to build two supercomputer factories in Houston and Dallas, the company announced Monday. *Nvidia expects the investment to result in "hundreds of thousands of jobs, and said that "mass production at both plants is expected to ramp up in the next 12-15 months."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisdo...computer-base/#.

Now look at this. Trump is getting what he wants. But our local Bond Expert (E2008) dismissed my theory about the ultimate objective of the Trump / Musk authoritarian take over of the USGOV. Sorry brother, markets do not see everything through the red colored contact lenses you wear.

Is a Constitutional Crisis in the works?

[HotDog666]

Dear visitor to my country of origin, I am sorry you are having reading compression problems. Did you not receive adequate educational training in the reading, writing and arithmetic in your country of origin as a child?

I know in order for you to visit they do not require you to know The Constitution of the United States of America. That is only a requirement if you want to become a citizen of my great Nation. Continue to read this post in order to receive additional education as to how things work in the Dis-United States of America.

If you are making that claim. Prove it. It is a Civil claim. Only a preponderance of evidence is required. That is a lower standard than for a Criminal Case. So, go ahead and get at me dog.

I don't have to deny anything. You have to prove it. I will await your notification that you have filed a complain against me in civil court.

I will add there are not actual legal designations between citizens in my country of origin other than natural or naturalized. That designation only applies when it comes to becoming the President of the United States of America. That is the article 2 branch.

If a court order has been defied, then show me where the court has issued a contempt of court order. You cannot. You are allowed your own opinions but not your own facts.

He is not a CITZEN. Even so he has received Due Process under the RULE OF LAW!

I have sometimes wondered whether I am too hard on you, SubCmdr, but two picoseconds later I realize that no, I am not, you are truly an imbecile.

You seriously want to deny that Blacks are second class citizens and mistreated by American police unless I prove you the evidence of this? I don't wish your death, I am simply exposing the hypocrisy of someone who shows such callousness about injustice towards another who has been mistreated and so therefore doesn't deserve my tears. If you genuinely believe that you're going to be treated as well as a white person in any encounter with the cops then that's fine. You believe it. It was just a piece of advice, don't go round mouthing off to an American cop because it won't end well for you. Bro.

With reference to facts, here's a fact from a right wing source:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/polit...r-oval-office/

The executive is quite literally defying the judiciary.

As for Mahmud Khalil, he was and is a US permanent resident, not a guest. The man did nothing wrong and the only crime he was to condemn the fascist state of Israel, what the fuck are you talking about by invoking the constitution? I can only assume you are either a complete moron or the world's best troll. The whole point is that his is a defiance of the constitution of the US. You started this discussion by claiming that the US is better by it's "rule of law". I call you out for your bullshit. What does your so called "first amendment" offer? The truth is that your "rule of law" has always been about about your judiciary or your executive making things are as they go along. "All men are born equal" except the black guy yes? You know about this, don't you hero? Or maybe you don't. Because like the Stephen character out of Django that you are who defends the oppressor of another, you are willfully blind. The same constitution which had your parents (and perhaps you) not being permitted to drink from the same faucet as the white guy is being used to now brutalise another and you have the gall to talk about the "rule of law". I would say shame on you but you don't deserve shame. Just contempt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detent...Mahmoud_Khalil

Read it slowly.

[SubCmdr]

I need for him to explain to me why the Stock Market is going down and the Bond Market is going down at the same time increasing yields? It thought traditional wisdom is that when money leaves the Stock Market (Risk On) the flows into the Bond Market (Risk Off) as a safe haven. As smart as he is I know he has an explanation for me. Because according to him I am a complete idiot. But even I deserve an education right? Or does he also feel that the police should leave me:

Dead in the street, mouth full of blood and a soul full of heat

If happens, don't cry for me because my heirs are going be mother fucking rich!

[SubCmdr]

Damned if I'm going to read your spiel for the third time to make sense of your demented ramblings.

Dear visitor to my country of origin, I am sorry you are having reading compression problems. Did you not receive adequate educational training in the reading, writing and arithmetic in your country of origin as a child?

I know in order for you to visit they do not require you to know The Constitution of the United States of America. That is only a requirement if you want to become a citizen of my great Nation. Continue to read this post in order to receive additional education as to how things work in the Dis-United States of America.

Sure, you're a citizen. A third class one.

If you are making that claim. Prove it. It is a Civil claim. Only a preponderance of evidence is required. That is a lower standard than for a Criminal Case. So, go ahead and get at me dog.

And if your deny it, why don't you mouth off to an American cop like you do here and if you survive we can discuss this further.

I don't have to deny anything. You have to prove it. I will await your notification that you have filed a complain against me in civil court.

I will add there are not actual legal designations between citizens in my country of origin other than natural or naturalized. That designation only applies when it comes to becoming the President of the United States of America. That is the article 2 branch.

You say you're in your 60's so you should be familiar with how your people are treated under the "Rule of Law. Fuck only knows why you're arguing about a blatant fact that your president has literally defied the judiciary..

If a court order has been defied, then show me where the court has issued a contempt of court order. You cannot. You are allowed your own opinions but not your own facts.

As for your comment about Mahmud deserving being deported..

He is not a CITZEN. Even so he has received Due Process under the RULE OF LAW!

I think I probably won't be shedding too many tears for you when you're gone after your encounter with the American cop. Patriot.

Quite magnanimous of you. You wish for my death. You are truly a sad individual to wish for another man to die because he disagrees with your tipping philosophy. ROTFLMO! I wouldn't expect nothing more from you. Please tell me why you think an encounter with the POLICE in the Dis-United States of America would go poorly for me?

I see our guest has now resorted to ad hominem attacks regarding my writing ability. My age. My ability to survive and encounter with the POLICE (Death Squads in Government Uniform) in my country of origin. It get that. Our guest has no case. No knowledge of The Constitution. He resides in my country of origin but he does not understand it. Has no legal background. Does not understand the law.

I get that. No need to be angry with me about it because as a visitor you cannot vote and influence the government of the Dis-United States of America. So, you come here to this thread in order to toss ad hominem attacks and release the frustrations you encountered from being impotent and a nobody in your own country of origin. That is why you are in the Dis-United States of America is it not?

Make a case to support your passions! Instead of just hysterical rantings like a *****!

The Defense Rests

[Spidy]

So while the DOGE, billionaire robber barons, Repubs, QAnon\MAGA cultist, bothsider, neithersider, MAGA adjacent "Repub Libertarians" or lunatic-fringe wingers and ...

the self-proclaimed imbecile investing savant, whom claimed the Red Lobster's bankruptcy, was due to an all-time great Biden economy, and ignores or fails to see the real harm and destruction to the economy, his Fuhrer's "just trust me" tariffs and current Repub admin clown show are hurting Americans and...

who also readily love to dismiss, denigrate and impugn the often great work gov't does and declares "gov't as the enemy"...THIS POST IS FOR YOU!

The poignant timing, brilliant deduction and great storytelling, Michael Lewis delivers, what looks to be yet another fantastic book (Who Is Government?: The Untold Story of Public Service), isn't lost on many Americans today, now awakened from their slumber, to the much "taken for granted" gov't public ethos, that is so alien to MAGA, the American Fuhrer and Musk's grifting transactional worldview.

As The Guardian notes in the article, the book's timing is "horrendously perfect". Its a manifesto for civic pride in an era of demolition, proving that governments true "swamp" isn't bureaucracy, its the unchecked power of those who vilify it, while relying on its invisible labor.

For the knuckleheaded QAnon\MAGA nihilists, questioning why collapsing agencies matter, Lewis offers answers in the stories of people who've spent careers making their country better, safer, fairer, and more humane, which is precisely what's now at risk.

• The Guardian: Who Is Government? by Michael Lewis review what Doge is trying to destroy. ... One of the many people who doesn't understand how the US government works has somehow been permitted to take it down to the studs in the name of efficiency. Elon Musk's Doge has only been running for a few weeks but Americans will be suffering the consequences of his ignorant vandalism for many years to come, in health, national security, disaster preparation and more. ...
  
  Contrary to the conservative stereotype of a ballooning bureaucracy, the size of the federal workforce has not changed greatly since the 1960s. https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...ing-to-destroy

Despite Michael Lewis's somewhat premature elegy and alarmist narration, but brilliant storytelling, he shows us, just how "efficient" gov't really is, and what's being lost, as the MAGA Fuhrer and Musk "move fast and break things" with no plans to rebuild.

This is yet another, chilling cautionary tale, of what most people already know, ...NOT duped by gullible MAGA Jedi mind tricks, which is to say, "...everything the MAGA Fuhrer touches, turns to SHIT!"

[Spidy]

So while the DOGE, billionaire robber barons, Repubs, QAnon\MAGA cultist, bothsider, neithersider, MAGA adjacent "Repub Libertarians" or lunatic-fringe wingers and ...

the self-proclaimed imbecile investing savant, whom claimed the Red Lobster's bankruptcy, was due to an all-time great Biden economy, and ignores or fails to see the harm and destruction to the economy, of his Fuhrer's "just trust me" tariffs, current clown show Repub admin and...

who also readily love to dismiss, denigrate and impugn the often great work gov't does and declares "gov't as the enemy"...THIS POST IS FOR YOU!

The poignant timing, brilliant deduction and great storytelling, Michael Lewis delivers, what looks to be yet another fantastic book (Who Is Government?: The Untold Story of Public Service), isn't lost on many Americans today, now awakened from their slumber, to the much "taken for granted" gov't public ethos, that is so alien to MAGA, the American Fuhrer and Musk's grifting transactional worldview.

As The Guardian notes in the article, the books timing is "horrendously perfect". Its a manifesto for civic pride in an era of demolition, proving that governments true "swamp" isn't bureaucracy, its the unchecked power of those who vilify it, while relying on its invisible labor.

For the knuckleheaded QAnon\MAGA nihilists, questioning why collapsing agencies matter, Lewis offers answers in the stories of people who've spent careers making their country better, safer, fairer, and more humane, which is precisely what's now at risk.

• The Guardian: Who Is Government? by Michael Lewis review what Doge is trying to destroy. ... One of the many people who doesn't understand how the US government works has somehow been permitted to take it down to the studs in the name of efficiency. Elon Musk's Doge has only been running for a few weeks but Americans will be suffering the consequences of his ignorant vandalism for many years to come, in health, national security, disaster preparation and more. ...
  
  Contrary to the conservative stereotype of a ballooning bureaucracy, the size of the federal workforce has not changed greatly since the 1960s. https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...ing-to-destroy

Despite Michael Lewis's somewhat premature elegy and alarmist narration, but brilliant storytelling, he shows us, just how "efficient" gov't really is, and what's being lost, as the MAGA Fuhrer and Musk "move fast and break things" with no plans to rebuild.

This is yet another, chilling cautionary tale, of what most people already know, ...NOT duped by gullible MAGA Jedi mind tricks, which is to say, "...everything the MAGA Fuhrer touches, turns to SHIT!"

[SubCmdr]

[QUOTE]DHS told her to leave the country. She's a citizen and an immigration attorney

When Massachusetts resident Nicole Micheroni received an email on Friday from the federal government telling her to leave the country, she was baffled.

At first I thought it was for a client, but I looked really closely and the only name on the email was mine, said Micheroni. So it said my parole status had been terminated and I should leave the country within seven days.

But the 40-year-old is a U.S. citizen, born in Newton and raised in Sharon.

Probably, hopefully, sent to me in error, she said. But its a little concerning these are going out to U.S. citizens.

Micheroni is also an immigration attorney, working with many clients facing possible deportation issues, so her name and email are on a lot of paperwork.

The language in the email is very threatening, she said. And it looks kind of like a sketchy spam email. It doesnt look like an official government notice, but it is.[/QUOTEhttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...ion-rcna201118

Musk, DOGE and company at work here.