Sao Paulo Reports

[HiddenEye]

Very nice beach spot Guaruja-Santos, perfect transportation. There is a metro station in SP Jabaquara that connects the bus terminal.

I haven't mongered there, but when I got to Santos a Sunday morning around 10 am, there was a very broad street with lots of bars and people still in heavy party at 10 am. So debauchery is assured.

The beauty on the beach was interesting. Paulistans arriving at the beach to enjoy a weekend, warm sea, being a winter morning. Brazil.

If anyone interested on my videos / pics of spots and more, feel free to drop me a pm. As you can see I have a solid photo / video archive dating from the early 2000's.

Have anyone mongered in Santos? Any tips to share from that place?

[BusinessTravl]

Have anyone mongered in Santos? Any tips to share from that place?

[BusinessTravl]

Thanks a lot for some great reports! Very useful as I will soon travel to Braz for the first time. Will definitely check out Scandallo. How is talent in May? Will try collect numbers.

[SocratesNY]

Thanks a lor Socrates! Outstanding job. I will be in SP the First week of June a report Will follow, also First week of December.

In your experience is there a month / s when you don't recommend Scandallo or to make It easier when its absolutely most recommended during the year? Of course weather can be a factor?

June might be a bit slower at Scandallo as it's Brazilian winter. Some of the girls will be traveling.

1st week of December should be normal or rocking as girls want to make that holiday paper.

But SP and Scandallo in particular is so big, that even at its "low", it's incredible.

I recall when my boys and I first visited during the pandemic. There was a 9 pm curfew and the disco and big outdoor terrace wasn't even open. The first impression we had was still WOW! And we are all experienced hobbyist having mongered all over the world. If Scandallo at 30-40% strength was that good. Imagine how it is now at 80%. I say 80%, as colleagues and locals say it was even better pre pandemic.

[SocratesNY]

Would I be OK with English and intermediate Spanish in Brazil? Would I be able to communicate well with the girls? Do you speak Portugese?

I speak beginner Portuguese. I really should be more fluent considering how many times and days I've been in Brazil the past 5 yesrs. But I don't practice much when at home as I am too busy. I am also spoiled as all my co workers speak English and they act as translators when needed.

I can understand more than I can speak and I get by with speaking Portuanol. Half Spanish and half Portuguese.

But the first few years, I used mostly translator in Scandallo. The girls I met are usually patient and familiar with its usage.

Some guys don't want to put the effort into using it or find it awkward or felt shame using it. I didn't. It just depends on how much effort you put forward.

I've spent 24-48 hours with countless girls where 80% of our conversation was with Google translate. We would go out to dinner, clubbing, do tourist stuff etc.

Google translate conversation mode is especially powerful in a quiet environment like your hotel room. You can just leave it on auto and carry a pretty fluid conversation. As long as both parties don't speak too much at once and they wait for the translation to finish and speak after the beep.

With that said, does it help if you speak fluent Portuguese? Of course. In many cases, they are more relaxed and comfortable. But you can get them into that mood if you are charismatic, treat them with respect, etc.

[Nounce]

Not the ones in downtown but very close to universities. It's a fantastic cultural experience as you may imagine because you can interact with locals, mostly civilian workers, students, cops, escorts, teachers, etc. In their daily lives. The rooms have a monthly reasonable price.

This post has little to do with sex. I was trekking in Patagonia recently. I met 3 different brazileiras on different occasions. One is born in Northern Europe and we stayed in the same room in a hostel right near the trail head. At that time, I did not know her mother is Brazilian. In the evening she came up to me like a kid telling me "We set our alarm clock at 2 AM" to go hiking at 3 AM. They were 2 of them in my room. She then invited me to go with them. I did not eat dinner and just went to bed like them so I can get enough sleep. It turned out to be a trip of the lifetime. I can only tell you what my friend told me after seeing the photos I took is that we arrived at the golden hour. Brazillians can be extremely warm even to strangers. The other two girls I met were similarly friendly. She asked about my travel plan and that was when she told me her mother is from Brazil when I mentioned Brazil. I thought that explains why she was so friendly.

I cropped out the million dollar view on purpose. Haha.

Before I went to Patagonia, I met this one on the street. She claimed to be a college student needing money. She said she would do anything I want but then told me the sex would be covered later or just the first time. I did not like the lie. She behaved somewhat like a working girl but I think she is not because where could she find work? We were oing to have sex once before but she brough a friend and her friend would hide in my bathroom so she won't interfere. I refused. This used to happen regularly in the city where I live in US. Many college students would come to work during weekend to make money or to experience life and they would share a hotel room.

[SocratesNY]

Completely agree about being far away for the action, except it's next door to the Gauguin Club. I wouldn't stay there for that reason, but I would definitely visit the Gauguin Club if you're staying at the Sheraton.

I was staying at the Grand Hyatt, which is also very close to Gaughin and the main reason my friends and I stopped by. We spent about an hour there and decided to head over to Scandallo and the talent level was night and day. As it was Wednesday night.

[SocratesNY]

In your experience is there a month / s when you don't recommend Scandallo or to make It easier when its absolutely most recommended during the year? Of course weather can be a factor?

It depends on what your preferences are. Some prefer a less crazy or crowded time, while others prefer it.

Generally, there are more girls and hotter girls from September / October to / May / June.

The reason is mainly two fold. 1) Summer time in the US and Europe is Brazilian winter so it's colder in Brazil 2) Many of the hotter girls travel between May and September to Europe where weather is nicer. It can be on their own dime or as arm candy for rich clients. Other girls choose this time to work overseas as more tourists are traveling to Europe, ME or Asia during US summer months.

Also it's wild at Scandallo during F1 week in November as well as NFL week in September.

[HiddenEye]

Hello comrades,

I have already mentioned before I use to rent rooms for long stays in shared houses called "republicas". Not the ones in downtown but very close to universities. It's a fantastic cultural experience as you may imagine because you can interact with locals, mostly civilian workers, students, cops, escorts, teachers, etc. In their daily lives. The rooms have a monthly reasonable price. I paid are R2000 for the month with private bathroom they call "suite" hahaha very funny.

Well, most of the houses will let you bring visits but you have to announce them with the owner of the house. The last time I stayed almost one month in a Republica and behaved very well, until the very last night I decided to break the rules hehehehe.

So, I arrenged with two gorgeous brunettes, one of them I met in Bomboa and we had very good chemestry. In order not to bring too much attention we scheluded our encounter very late a Wednesday night, around midnight. The girls arrived in the car of the brunette from Bomboa, we talked a few minutes inside the car where she introduced me to her friend. We kissed in the back seat while I was checking the merch my friend was bringin for me. It was good flesh and dick went inmediately hard. Then I checked the lights of the house to be turned off in most of the rooms. Everything looked safe and sound so we entered the house walking like cats trying not to make any noise.

To get to my room we first must walk through a patio where there are chairs and tables where people of the house talk, smoke, make barbecues or do their stuff. A shared area. When I went to receive the girls there was nobody in this patio, but when walking back ten minutes later, hand in hand with two girls in high heels and very tight jeans, dressed not too bitchy fortunately, there are 3 young guys talking and drinking beers in one of the tables. Those guys were policemen hahahaha already in civilian clothes, shorts and flip flops (havaianas).

You can imagine how those guys looked at us and all the things they said when they saw us walking the long corridor of rooms till the end and finally turning to the left. They were cheering like it was a soccer game! The girls were laughing of course. Brazilians are just like that, nice people (gente boa).

It was an awesome threesome in my room. I paid each girl $R1500 and invited a sandwich after our little party (festinha). As a matter of fact, they call it festinha when you make a threesome or an orgy. I paid a bit more because I made them wear toys and customs I purchased. You can see one of the girls with a clown nose. I'm a fetish guy hehehehe and girls love it! one of them had such a powerful orgasm while wearing that mask.

I left Sao Paulo the day after and I didn't have to share the kitchen this time. I'm sure everyone would have mentioned that I brought two expensive GPS (garotas de programa) to the house. I spent more with the two girls than the monthly rent of the room. And the policemen knew it.

The owner of the house didn't say a thing, because I'm sure he watched everything in the recorded video from security cams hahahaha those houses have cams in every shared area.

I'll be back of course.

[SocratesNY]

I suspect those prices are in brasilian reals?

I know I wrote a lot. But the FIRST paragraph of my FIRST post (of 2) states.

Note: All mentions of money are in Brazilian Real, unless denoted by USD.

It is also best to not quote ALL of a long post during a reply, but just the relevant parts.

[Lalabo]

Is there a way to get the write ups below by Socrates to be put on the top of this thread as a sticky that newbies can refer to without looking for this information?

AFAIK this site doesn't support stickies or pinning posts at the top of the thread like some forums do. One option is to highlight useful reports by adding it to "Reports of Distinction" (ROD). Reading RODs is the easiest and faster way to find most important and useful reports without reading through tons of pages.

[FFlintstone69]

I don't see any recent posts about the new Visa requirements from USA so I am trying but it won't let me upload my passport WTF.

[KrumeLurer]

I suspect those prices are in brasilian reals?

Hobbying:

With some of the recent discussions devolving into subtle or not subtle jabs as to the right way to hobby, I want to put the following disclaimer.

I believe is NO RIGHT WAY to hobby! Everyone has different tastes, budgets, approaches, goals, etc. You can go visit as many different venues as you want or stick to a select few that you repeat often. Spend as little or as much as your budget allows or your heart desires! Fuck as much or little as you want!

Here are my personal experiences and YMMV.

I generally come to Brazil for 1 week every 2 months. Therefore, time is my most valuable resource. I also am fortunate enough that I have a high enough budget that I can afford to go to the more high-end venues frequently and often. My work schedule also generally leaves me little time for afternoon excursions. I personally prefer the environment of a boate like Scandallo, where I get the chance to see the girl in person, get a chance to chat her up and see if we have good chemistry and see if we vibe, as opposed to a point and shoot option of clinicas or online outcalls / incalls.

Boates:

Scandallo:

Based on the above, it's no wonder Scandallo is my favorite place to visit in Brazil. It's a luxurious venue with good food and good drinks and they bring 100-250 girls together for me to chat up, size up and select for an overnight date. Saves me so much time and legwork as opposed to other venues like clinicas or online options (escorts or Seeking or its Brazilian version MP), which would take multiple visits and still might not get the same results or quality. It's almost like speed dating version of Seeking / freelancers, but you can choose who to approach and go at it at your own pace.

Scandallo Lounge is divided into mainly3 areas, an outdoor terrace (small one by day and then a large one later at night), a restaurant and a disco / club area. You can talk to girls in a quieter setting of the terrace or restaurant (but has darker lighting) or dance and party in the disco.

The average quality of the girls who work there are, in my experience and opinion, unrivalled anywhere in Brazil (some would say all of the Americas or even the world) in terms of looks, charisma, style, intelligence, etc. I've met many professionals and talented artists who worked there from lawyers, doctors, engineers, teachers, nurses. Etc. And of course, many students, models, artists, dancers, etc. For a girl to work in Scandallo, it isn't as simple as showing up and paying their entry fee, which isn't cheap. They have to submit photos of themselves and go for an interview. I've had a few girls I've met at other boates, who I thought had the looks for working at Scandallo get turned down. They were told they either weren't put together enough or should get more experience working at other higher end boates like Connections (sister club of Scandallo) or Bamboa before they reapply again. I am sure the months / seasons of the year also has something to do with their rejection. During the quieter months in the summer, when many of the girls are traveling abroad (or Brazilian winter), they probably would have gotten accepted.

Once they get accepted, they have to pay an initial entrance fee of $300 for their first day working at the club. Although I've heard some girls get that waved as they are so hot or refined / elegant and the club management want them to come to attract clients. If they work 8 hours or if a client takes them out of the club for a "saida", they will get a free invitation back the next business day. They are expected to work 5 days a week if they want to get continuous free invitations. They can elect to take Saturday or Mondays off (on top of Sundays). They can change their day off each week when they submit their schedule. Once they skip a work day, they will have to restart the first day $300 admission process all over again.

Therefore, a girl who isn't hot enough or have a shitty or sharky personality or don't have whatever clients look for, they will have a sunk cost of $300 plus whatever they consume in terms of food and drinks that clients don't pay for. That weeds out the lower end girls as they have to compete with other young and hot girls who might be intelligent, stylish, elegant, sexy, etc. And they have to PAY to compete, or on subsequent working days invest their time to compete.

Some of the best girls can show up late or whenever they want as they can get a client whenever they show up.

For guys, their cost is $300 before 7:00 pm (All count toward consumption) and $500 after 7:00 pm ($300 toward consumption). What that basically means is that there is a $200 cover charge after 7:00 pm, and you are expected to spend a minimum of $300 on drinks, food, tobacco products, etc. I find it pretty easy to spend $300 per visit and rarely go under that, unless it's a quick visit on the way to the airport.

If you plan to visit Scandallo more than 1 or 2 x within a 6-month period and / or are going with friends, it's is good advice to get a bottle of your favorite hard liquor. You pay less per drink and the bottle is held for 6 months. The bottle also acts as a placeholder on any table you are sitting at should you go walk around. I usually get a bottle of gin as that's what the girls usually drinks. Some will also drink vodka, tequila and champagne. I find both good and bad whiskey wasted on the girls. If you are going with friends, you can even split the cost of a bottle as everyone would have $300 consumption anyway.

Most of the girls I've spoken to recently have been asking anywhere between $1,000 to $3,000 for a short time romp in the adjacent hotel. Time can range from 60 to 120 minutes depending on how you negotiate. It is generally just an opening ask, and they will usually take $700 to $1,200. A few girls will only come down to $1,500 to $2,000. How far down they will go will depends on many factors. While you are sizing them up, they are also reading you. If they like you, whether it's your looks, hygiene, personality, etc. Can be a factor. Whether they think you are a newbie or a rich gringo sometimes can be a factor. The time and day of the week also matters, as they will take less during quieter times of the day (afternoon or early evenings) or less busy days of the week (Mondays and Saturdays).

Suffice it so say, with so many hot women to suit all tastes, all my friends and I have had no issue getting girls for $1,000 to $1,200, and even with some of my friends who like to haggle and play hard to get netting girls regularly for $700-900 for ST (Short Time).

I personally do not enjoy haggling and don't negotiate too hard so usually just make 1 counter offer that I feel is fair based on what my friends, colleagues and other local friends have been paying ($1,000 to $1,200) and move on. Even then, my successful rate is probably 90-95%.

For ST visits in the hotel next door, Scandallo now charges $300 per hour, which is the same as the takeout "saida" fee. Time starts when the girl opens the door with the keycard to the room. Any time over one hour is charged at a prorated rate.

Short time trysts probably only make up 5-10% of my encounters in Scandallo. I almost always take a girl out of the club at the end of the night for an overnight / pernoite date until the morning. For LT (Long time) dates, I generally pay $1,500 to $2,000. Occasionally, I've paid $2,500 for a girl I really want and once in a blue moon, I've paid $3,000 for a unicorn that I just had to have.

I also make sure to discuss what I want in terms of service and time. For me that's at minimum, BBBJ, DFK, have stamina in both oral and intercourse, as I can last awhile. I also make sure we agree on when they will leave, as I always want a girl to stay until at least late morning for morning sex and then breakfast in bed. If they need to leave earlier, then I either move on or negotiate a lower "gift" for less time.

You can fill in your own requirements in terms of acronyms or requirements. These girls aren't shy and have heard it all, whether you ask for CIM, anal, BBFS, reverse gangbang, 2 guys tag teaming her, BDSM, eating sushi off of them, pegging, waterworks, visiting swing clubs, going to a love model with a pole for a private strip show, etc. Just be direct, but also tactful or smooth in asking for what you want. Nothing worse than being vague and then being disappointed if you didn't get something that you "must" have or presume is included or they leave earlier than you expect.

Generally, GFE (BBBJ, Kissing, DATY) is included, but after 1 instance (thankfully out of 100+) of a girl wanting to do CBJ, I've started making sure even on GFE. I've found the average IOP and service level of the girls at Scandallo to be higher than other boates or venues. It's a by-product of the more relaxing and luxurious environment, vetting process by management, ability of clients to size up the girl, the girl generally being smart enough to want a loyal repeat client, clients who are usually more demanding and not settle for shitty service, girls who are usually more refined and forward thinking, and the ability of clients to complain about a girl to management.

Some of my friends and colleagues (as well as many of the locals) go to Scandallo just to socialize and get numbers for a future meet up. Many locals (which makes up probably 90% of the client base) also go just to drink and party, whether with clients or just with the girls or to get cheap feels.

After reading about an instance of a poster being extorted / scammed into paying a girl to spend time with her, I have to chime in. YOU DO NOT NEED TO PAY A GIRL FOR SPENDING TIME WITH YOU! They can ask for a tip when she leaves you. Heck, she can ask for drinks, food, etc. It is your right to say yes or no. I've had less than a handful of girls ask for a tip when we couldn't come to an agreement after she spent some social time with me. I've also politely declined each time and they just shrugged and went on their way. Tipping isn't a cultural thing in Brazil and they usually only ask that of gringos.

They will NOT kick you out simply for spending social time with a girl and not compensating her for social time. If a girl or any security guard makes that demand or threat, ask to speak to management. I've asked a few managers and head waiters at the club about this and they all said it's BS and they would ban the girl and fire the security guard on the spot of it was brought to their attention.

To recap for pricing:

$300 minimum consumption (All times) + $200 cover charge after 7:00 PM.

$300ST hotel for 1 hour or $300 take out "Saida" fee.

ST: Generally $900 to $1,200 with a select few at $7-800 or $1,500 to $2,000.

LT: Generally $1,500 to $2,000, with a select few at $2,500 to $3,000.

Bomboa.

A smaller boate with a family restaurant feel. The club is centrally located, which might be its best attribute. I've visited on numerous occasions for a change of pace and at least half the time, I left and went to Scandallo afterwards, as I didn't find any girl to my liking that were available. The number of girls varies from 25 to 50 depending on the night. I almost always see a girl I like, but often times they are occupied. Overall, I like the service and more relaxed vibe, but the limited amount of girls at times make it hit or miss for me.

The pricing is very similar to Scandallo as my last visit in 2024 was $350 all consumption. They also tack on a 15% service charge. They also have a happy hour / executive lunch special during the day at about the consumption.

The girls ask a little less than Scandallo and you can get them for $600-1,000 for ST and $1,000 to $1,500 for LT.

Caf Photo:

Also centrally located and near Bomboa. It's a luxurious smaller version of Scandallo and I've had so good pulls in the past before they finished building the hotel. However, my last few visits (and those of my friends) have been mediocre at best. The quantity and quality of the girls have gone downhill the past 12-18 months.

Pricing is also similar to Scandallo as it was $350 with $200 being consumption. They also tack on a 15% service charge.

The girls ask a little less than Scandallo and you can get them for $800-1,000 for ST and $1,000 to $1,500 for LT.

Gauguin Club:

Located by WTC so lots of businessmen and gringo visitors. Went there for first time earlier this year and did like the setup. It's a bit like Caf Photo, but with better talent (similar to Bomboa) I forgot the entry, but I think we took the $200 option with less consumption.

Girls were asking prices similar to Scandallo.

It's an okay boate to check out if you are in the area.

Clinicas:

I generally separate them into 3 tiers. High-end, regular and budget.

My favorite high end ones are:

The Palms (Tropical theme, Ipad selection, good service) $800 for 60 min.

Oro Spa (Modern Spa look, ipad selection, good service) $750 for 60 min.

Lotus Lounge (Modern Spa look, ipad selection, good service) $750 for 60 min.

Regular Clinicas (I've mostly gone to the ones in Moeama area):

Moema Prime: (good roster, good selection of girls, good to amazing service) $330 for 60 min.

Miruna (moderate roster, okay selection of girls, good service) $330 for 60 min.

Abbobora (Biggest roster, usually hotter selection of girls, but service is hit or miss): $400 for 60 min.

57 Friends (moderate roster, okay selection of girls, good to amazing service) $330 for 60 min. Turns into a boate after 8 or 9 pm.

Enjoy (moderate roster, okay selection of girls, good service) $330 for 60 min.

Budget:

Tangara (huge roster, good selection of girls, okay to great service) $240 for 60 min.

Yankin (large roster, good selection of girls, okay to great service) $240 for 60 min.

[Nounce]

Is there a way to get the write ups below by Socrates to be put on the top of this thread as a sticky that newbies can refer to without looking for this information?

I was going to add it but Lalabo already did.

[The Cane]

Is there a way to get the write ups below by Socrates to be put on the top of this thread as a sticky that newbies can refer to without looking for this information?

They're in the Reports of Distinction, which is where I was going to put them, but Lalabo beat me to it. I think the RODs is good enough. That's where all newbies should go first before asking a bunch of endless questions, the answers to which usually have already been answered time and time again. Thoroughly educate yourself first, then ask informed questions, and people will be happy to help you.