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04-23-25 16:26 #17988
Posts: 4205Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
With a top tax rate of 40.8%, he faces of a federal tax bill of about $10.7 billion from the exercise of these shares.
This is the most in taxes any American has paid in history, and you Democratic douches are protesting he does not have the right to see where it goes? Oh, no, Elon, you are going to pay hundreds of millions for Democratic douche causes like DEI and LGBTQ in Cambodia and Zimbabwe, and you are going to like it.
Taxpayers have no right to say where their tax dollars go should be the Democratic douche slogan of the year.
And the people protesting Musk are being paid, and the funny part is after the US AID scandal we have been seeing that a lot of that money that has been paid to protesters has come from the government taxing Elon. Oh, the government pays these NGOs and they do the end runs around the Constitution and the censorship and pay the protestors. Working people are too fucking busy working to protest oatmeal for brains. I guess your dream scenario is all the people working at Tesla lose their jobs.
As for interest payments on the debt, that goes to some of the richest people in the world. It also goes to countries holding the bonds like Japan and China. And please enlighten me on how my paying interest on the national debt to the CCP is a "government service" that benefits me.
And half of that 39 cents in interest payments was accumulated during Covid oatmeal for brains. And you do not want to talk about that? Yeah, that is because you are not the one paying taxes.
It is funny we hear ad nauseam that women are underpaid compared to men. Why does no one bring up that men are paying a shitload more in taxes?
The USA is mum about this but the UK has been honest, In the last tax year men paid 92 billion in income tax whereas women paid 36.8 billion, which is 60% less. https://fullfact.org/economy/are-wom...-tax-men/There are more women in the workforce than ever before, and yet they still contribute 60% less in income tax than men.
And when you demonize tax paying men, they leave. https://hannity.com/media-room/come-...ou-dinner/This was governor of New York Andrew Cuomo during the pandemic "I literally talk to people all day long who are now in their Hamptons house who also lived here, or in their Hudson Valley house, or in their Connecticut weekend house, and I say, 'You got to come back! We'll go to dinner! I'll buy you a drink! Come over, I'll cook! The Democratic governor said Monday.
Why in the fuck would Elon want to invest in the USA after this stupid shit? People can not only move from New York to Florida, they can move from the USA to Thailand and work there and not pay any USA taxes. That is the same douche move you and Tooms did. Hell, Elon has already moved from California to Texas, and California lost out on billions in taxes.
What really cracks me up is the guy who mentioned the two out of every three tax dollars goes to someone else was Aaron Clarey. He wrote a book called a world without men and it was an eye opener but what really should scared Democratic douches like you is he advocates for a minimalist life style. He thinks as I do the reason men work hard is to get women, and given how ungrateful American women are, you buy used, do your own repairs, and try to get by with generating as little income as possible because when you make money, the government steals so much. He estimates that a man living the minimalist lifestyle can get by on $20,000 per year and if that happens, you can kiss your social security goodbye.
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04-23-25 16:19 #17987
Posts: 6827Trump just stole Billions and Billions and Billions from us!
Why oh why oh why did Trump suddenly "soften his stance" on the people of the United States of America being given Billions and Billions and Billions of dollars from other countries to pay for everything we want from Childcare, we need Childcare because Childcare is Childcare and groceries, damn I'm glad Trump invented that word, without it costing the people of the USA anything?
How dare he!
Especially since all those other countries have been ripping us off bigly and taking us for a ride on the Trade Deals previous presidential administrations stupidly negotiated to allow them to rip us off and take us for a ride!
Such as the Trade Deals the previous Donald J. Trump administration, well, Donald J. Trump himself, spent years stupidly negotiating with China, Mexico, Canada, etc allowing them to do that to us just a few years ago.
And now, just as the American people were finally going to be given Billions and Billions and Billions of dollars those stupid previous presidential administrations, well, stupid previous presidents like Donald J. Trump ripped off from us up until now he has decided to let those other countries keep all that money they ripped us off for, leaving the American people high, dry and still medium sized ripped off!
Dow rallies 1,000 points after Trump softens stance on Powell, China tariffs.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/22/stoc...ndroidappshare
And, BTW, don't even think this sudden "softening stance" for Trump has anything to do with the stock market, which Trump barely pays any attention to, or his meeting with these elite corporate CEOs or those "Democrat Party Hoax" protests or that his number one political donor's wealth is plunging by the hour! Just DON'T! Because Trump is so smart and so wealthy and he doesn't need anybody else's money and his main mission is never ever ever to CAVE on these things while really teaching that Xi guy a lessen he will never forget!
Trump hosts Walmart, Target and Home Depot CEOs for tariff meeting.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/21/trum...ndroidappshare
President Donald Trump met with Walmart CEO Doug McMillon, Target CEO Brian Cornell and Home Depot CEO Ted Decker to discuss tariffs.
Walmart is in a better position to weather Trumps protectionist trade agenda than many of its competitors.
Trumps aggressive tariff policies have caused uncertainty both for investors and business leaders, many of whom rely heavily on imported goods.
Swear to god.
It's true.
Really.
Well. He might flip on this decision and change his mind about it.
But, either way, it will make all of us rich.
Really.
Swear to god.
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04-23-25 11:53 #17986
Posts: 6827LOL. President MuskTrump did get that memo.
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
But he sure got that Our Glaring Repub MAGA Failures Are Just A Democrat Party Hoax memo, read it, comprehended it and perhaps blitheringly believed it, although that last part has nothing to do with him and all the other MAGAs repeating it.
Here is a hilarious 7 minute video showing the millions of anti-President MuskTrump protestors all around the country, in every state really, that Musk's MAGA Mental Misalignment has concluded is a "hoax", they actually love him but are either paid "wasteful, fraudulent and abusive" money to protest against him or are all so addicted to the "wasteful, fraudulent and abusive" money, NONE of which he and his Dogies have yet to discover, uncover and indict for, that they come out en masse merely "pretending" to oppose him and his methods so the "wasteful, fraudulent and abusive" money keeps flowing in making everyone as rich as he is. Er was.
LOL. It is a MUST SEE video:
https://youtu.be/wU23jm417-k?si=Hplv3iO8H3g9ruUQ
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04-23-25 07:58 #17985
Posts: 1500QAnon/MAGA/Repub ineptitude for the WIN...kkkk!
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
So Yeah, when protestor plaques say "Trump do the world a favor and S T F U!" tells you, American's have lost confidence in your Fuhrer! Is it any wonder Buffett, went to mostly cash!
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04-23-25 07:22 #17984
Posts: 1500QAnon/MAGA/Repub Clowns, good stewardship, not in their vocabulary...
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
Where are the links, Carnac the Magnificent?
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008
Just because you, your Fuhrer and FOXY Muse, want to oversimplify federal spending and misrepresent the purpose of tax dollars, and call Social Services, Medicare, Medicad, ...etc "nothing", like president Musk and DOGE are doing, then by all means, have fun down that rabbit-hole, it doesn't mean I'm gonna follow.
- The U.S. government collects taxes from taxpayers to finance a range of public services and the institutions that provide those services. In 2023, the IRS collected $4.7 trillion in federal taxes.
The five largest budget items in the federal budget usually include: Health, Social Security, national defense, interest on the national debt, and income security programs.
In most years, the federal government operates in a budget deficit—meaning it spends more than it makes. As a result, the government ends up borrowing money to make up the difference and increases the national debt in the process.
While you may have little control over how the government spends your taxes, you can prepare yourself for tax season and take advantage of ways to lower your tax bill.
Even right-wing business mogul, Dave Ramsey recognizes the importance of gov't taxation and the good of the public services they provide: https://www.ramseysolutions.com/taxe...r-tax-money-go
The question isn’t "why should I pay my fair share of taxes?" but "what kind of society do YOU want to live in? And so far these so called "gov't inefficiencies" claimed by DOGE haven't yet materialized.
But let's be REAL! The president Musk, DOGE fiasco, isn't really about finding "gov't inefficiencies", but rather to gut those American governmental institutions, as if they were kind of corporate business in a "private equity" takeover whereby "move fast and break things", is the order of the day.
What YOU MAGA morons, often forget, is the balance! While good governments can't and should run operations totally like a business, they can neither operate totally as a charity.
Ultimately, this is were "good governance and good stewardship", comes into play.
Your Fuhrer and the QAnon/MAGA/Repub clowns, have neither!
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
- The U.S. government collects taxes from taxpayers to finance a range of public services and the institutions that provide those services. In 2023, the IRS collected $4.7 trillion in federal taxes.
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04-22-25 20:30 #17983
Posts: 5569How to balance the Federal Budget
Eliminate Corporate / Ag Welfare. Eliminate the pay as you go Social Security System and have it funded in the same way that pensions used to be funded. Cut Defense Spending. Pay down the debt. Make a balanced budget a requirement. Government Borrowing can be authorized only for spending on long term capital projects.
In Additional
Flat Across the board 100% Tariffs on all goods (no exceptions).
Fire the Fed Chairman.
Allow POTUS to be the Chairman of the Fed.
Lower Rates.
ROTFLMAO!
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04-22-25 17:43 #17982
Posts: 4205Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
Musk looked at the insane trade and budget deficits and he knows as I do that unless those are gotten under control, the USA is done. Sure, I would have preferred a gradual rollout versus the Trump shock and awe tariff campaign but the USA HAS been getting screwed on a lot.
It was funny when Zelensky mouthed off to Trump and Vance and then ran back to his European supporters. Europe had a meeting about what they were going to do. The European leaders declared they were not going to stand by and let Russia take over the continent and they were going to step up in the wake of the USA and its declining leadership. There were big words, and in the end, after declaring the Ukraine war was this major emergency, they gave Ukraine no money and all they agreed to do was meet again several months later.
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
On that last point, Trump has hit a home run. Say what you will about DOGE and how it did not achieve the cost savings desired. The deep state is reeling and the the government reports on censorship and Covid have been what we all expected from this administration. As for Colombia University, it folded like a cheap suit, and Harvard is so damned stupid, they risk losing their tax exempt status, and Matt Taibbi did a piece on Harvard that was an amazing takedown. If you just read or listen to the lame stream media, you missed it.
And yes, why is Harvard, a place where people working for their hedge / endowment fund and are making millions, tax exempt Spidy? When you talk about the robber barons and evil venture capitalists, people working the Harvard hedge fund does not come to the top of your list, does it?
So your party is what you condemn, Spidy. You condemn Musk not when he is sucking off the government but when he goes Republican. You blast hedge fund and greedy capitalists but not YOUR greedy capitalists.
If the Democrats had a plan to do all that I said, I would consider jumping ship. The most laughable part is the Democratic party is so bought and paid for, they had to roll out Bernie Sanders as he was the one voice that was at all anti-establishment. Thing is it would be hard to underestimate what a complete ass Bernie made of himself during the RFK Jr. Senate hearings and his onesy comments. Again, you probably did not hear about it.
So yeah, I do wish Trump would tone it down a bit as opposed to his brash take no prisoners attitude, but he is who we have. Any other pol once he got where Trump is would have flipped. He would have played ball. He would have taken the money the lobbyists had given him and changed positions. Why the fuck did Bernie turn on RFK Jr? Why the fuck is Bernie caring about big pharma? It is comical, and Bernie is the best you all have.
You all keep going on about how great Dems are, but none of you have a plan to balance the budget or lower trade deficits. All you have is griping at Trump and demanding human trafficking illegals get due process. Unfucking real. THAT is the hill you all want to die on?
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04-22-25 15:02 #17981
Posts: 5569Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
It is the way of the Republican Racists!
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04-22-25 14:54 #17980
Posts: 5569Originally Posted by Nyezhov [View Original Post]
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04-22-25 12:49 #17979
Posts: 1500Fuhrer, President Musk and Repubs Gov't Assistance Hypocrisy...
Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]
Whether RIGHT or WRONG or whether they DID or DID NOT meet their targeted goals, it was still a tangible plan of action and a document for all to see, to hold gov't ACCOUNTABLE, to their own praise or bullshit, to what they said would work, actually worked, the way they said.
Today, it's just the American Fuhrer's Jedi Mind Trick, as he loves to say "Just TRUST ME!", and has all his sycophants parroting, "...just trust the president. Trust the process on tariffs..."
Yeah NO FACTS, do documentation and therefore NO ACCOUNTABILITY! Just a clown show on continual, rinse, recycle and repeat!
Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]
Yeah, the irony of what president Musk is doing with DOGE, lies in the fact that Musk, who has built his fortune largely through government aid, subsidies, and contracts, is now leading an aggressive campaign to slash federal spending and dismantle agencies, that helped fledgling individuals and organizations, like his own, back-in-the-day.
The contradiction and hypocrisy, underscores how Musk's rhetoric of "efficiency" clashes with his history of heavily subsidized and leveraged government assistance and resources, to build his empire, by the very system he now seeks to dismantle.
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04-22-25 07:31 #17978
Posts: 5569Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
I wrote this in the Thailand Lounge and Chat. Please note it is a quote that you can review in it's entirety word for word by hitting the view original post link.
Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]
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04-22-25 02:56 #17977
Posts: 6827Originally Posted by NewtonYork [View Original Post]
The same as Buffett just did at the end of Biden's presidency.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/08/warr...ndroidappshare
Buffett is defying that downward trend with a cautious approach: The "Oracle of Omaha" compiled a record $334 billion in cash at the end of 2024, according to SEC filings.
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04-21-25 21:18 #17976
Posts: 5569The Supreme Court rule 7-2 in favor of due process and the rule of law!
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdYu2eGq/
This is old news. The Professor does not know. Since he doesn't he better ask somebody. That somebody is me.
Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]
To all the chicken littles screaming democracy is ending that don't know how the constitution of the United States work: you don't know what you are talking about!
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04-21-25 21:14 #17975
Posts: 224Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]
I fear you are being somewhat optimistic that you'd get this far, my dear Stephen, in an encounter with the cops. Please don't over estimate your likelihood of a positive encounter with American cops. We'd miss you.
I was being a little kind to you but I'll tell you I was vicariously embarrassed for you by you appealing to this mongering board on whether you're a second class citizen. Note that no one responded. I also note that you didn't address your little cap in hand "aww shucks master" appeal to whatshisname, Nyzhenov? You know the chap who referred to you as "the colored boy" or "darkie"? That's the thing with racism, Stephen: it may be a minority who are racist to you, but you are nonetheless a second class citizen. But you keep telling yourself you're not, attaboy. After all, you need something to anchor your own cognitive dissonance on, don't you?
Let me refresh your memory on this topic: you claimed that the "rule of law" was what distinguished American (mis) treatment of the likes of the El Salvadorian and Mahmud Khalil from how Russia behaves. I've literally given you evidence of how a) the Executive continues to defies the judiciary and b) how your laws are made up as you go along with regards to Mahmud Khalil, in defiance of your supposed constitution, everything America claims to stand for, and natural justice, based on contrivance and downright lies by the Executive. I also note how you've characteristically disingenuously transitioned your rebuttal from "rule of law" to "due process" which are not synonymous. If it is due process, then going back to my original point, Russia and other tyrannies also have "due process". There are courts and trials. These are due process, but it does not amount to justice.
Finally no matter how many times you repeat your canard it does not make it true. Mahmud Khalil was not a guest, he was a permanent resident. It would not have mattered regardless but your lies in endeavouring to gloss over his treatment in the "land of the free unless you criticise Israel for genocide, home of the brave" cannot be permitted to go unchallenged.
Now do try and not take your questionably sized dick out and shake it about in front of us all whilst yelling "How do you like me now". It really is why you sound like an imbecile.
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04-21-25 21:07 #17974
Posts: 5569Not going to let a International Carpet Bagger define me
Or tell me about my country!
Originally Posted by HotDog666 [View Original Post]
They remain silent because they are able to do so because of the 5th Amendment. They remain silent because inside they are joyful at seeing how effective they have been at spreading hate internationally that even individuals like HotDog666 who are not CITIZENS of the Dis-United States of America have picked up and internalized it.
The Republican Racists must feel quite giddy that a International Carpet Bagger will further their racist ideas. That same individual needs to remember that the Dis-United States of America actually elected someone he considers to be a second class citizen to the Presidency of the United States of America. But this individual is so stupid, has swallowed the rhetoric of hate and gotten hooked on it that he does not realize that just because he has brown skin it does not stop him from wearing the same white hoodie the Republican Racists wear up in dis *.
The International Carpet Bagger wants to point out that I am considered to be a lessor in the eyes of some of my fellow Americans. But the International Carpet Bagger does not understand THAT is the history of my people from the very first war on US Soil. My people have answered the call to fight on behalf of the Dis-United States of America throughout its history. Regardless of individuals like the Republican Racists who would choose to erase our contributions to this great nation in a manner that is undeniable.
Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]
On August 28, 1957, Strom Thurmond, a Democratic United States senator from South Carolina, began a filibuster intended to prevent the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1957. The filibusteran extended speech designed to stall legislationbegan at 8:54*p.m and lasted until 9:12*p.m. the following day, a duration of 24 hours and 18 minutes. This makes the filibuster the longest single-person filibuster in United States Senate history as of 2025. It was also the longest single-person Senate speech until 2025, when the record was broken by Cory Booker of New Jersey, with Booker speaking for twenty-five hours and four minutes.
He does not understand this precisely because of who he is a: International Carpet Bagger. He thinks Permanent Residence is the same as being a US Citizen. It is not and I have pointed this out more than once to him yet he wishes to ignore this fact. Because he disagrees with the process and result of DUE PROCESS UNDER THE RULE OF LAW he says the Dis-United States of America is no different than China or Russia. He is / was just a visitor like his homeboy that got sideways of the law. Better recognize. But he cannot because he is nothing more than a: International Carpet Bagger talking his pure unadulterated male bovine excrement that he spreads like he puts on Hot Dog Relish.
The International Carpet Bagger is a *****. He has never stood for anything in his own country like I have in mine. If I invited him to meet me and suggested that we play a round a golf, he would not show up. Why? Because his type run like a bitches. They are keyboard warriors. Knowing what is going to happen to him if I showed him my golf swing, he has water dripping from his knees and loses his shit. My handicap is low. I am very good ball striker.
So I look forward to the next post from our International Carpet Bagger that will be full of ad hominem attacks because he like the Republican Racists that he emulates he has lost the intellectual argument and his type, like the Republican Racists, he looks up to do not accept defeat gracefully.
Anyone who want to see what White Americans will do to each other only need to study the US Civil War. Do not get it twisted. That war was not fought for the second class citizens as defined by our International Carpet Bagger no the war was fought to preserve the Union and over economics.
Battle of Shilo, 25,000 dead, wounded or missing!