American Politics

[Spidy]

LOL. If you paid attention to jack shit, this would be easy. Let us go with three items: Social security is taxed at approximately 13%, Medicare at 3%, and the last one is payment on the national debt. 39% of all tax revenues go to pay interest on the debt. https://www.fox29.com/news/how-much-...-national-debt.

That is 55% and does not include Medicaid, Welfare, grants, federal pensions ETC. Given how much interest rates have gone up, two out of every three dollars is probably conservative.

That is powerful? LOL. If you say so. If government was not such a drain, such an explanation would not be necessary. Yes, govenment that sucks up 20% of GDP does do some good. Does it do enough good to justify that much money? Hell no!

(...kkkk!) Dude, when your logic is flawed, there is no amount of math or FOXY Muse, right-wing propaganda that's gonna make it right.

Where are the links, Carnac the Magnificent?

Two out of every three paid tax dollars does not go to any government service whatsoever. It is redistributed to lazy asses like yourself. Got that? Two in three tax dollars goes to someone else.

I still haven't seen the links where gov't spends 2/3 of tax dollars "...to lazy asses like yourself" as you claimed. Last I checked Social Security, Medicare and the national debt/interest, were all part of gov't services. How your tax dollars are spent: https://www.ramseysolutions.com/taxe...r-tax-money-go

Just because you, your Fuhrer and FOXY Muse, want to oversimplify federal spending and misrepresent the purpose of tax dollars, and call Social Services, Medicare, Medicad, ...etc "nothing", like president Musk and DOGE are doing, then by all means, have fun down that rabbit-hole, it doesn't mean I'm gonna follow.

• The U.S. government collects taxes from taxpayers to finance a range of public services and the institutions that provide those services. In 2023, the IRS collected $4.7 trillion in federal taxes.
  The five largest budget items in the federal budget usually include: Health, Social Security, national defense, interest on the national debt, and income security programs.
  
  In most years, the federal government operates in a budget deficit—meaning it spends more than it makes. As a result, the government ends up borrowing money to make up the difference and increases the national debt in the process.
  
  While you may have little control over how the government spends your taxes, you can prepare yourself for tax season and take advantage of ways to lower your tax bill.
  
  Even right-wing business mogul, Dave Ramsey recognizes the importance of gov't taxation and the good of the public services they provide: https://www.ramseysolutions.com/taxe...r-tax-money-go

The question isn’t "why should I pay my fair share of taxes?" but "what kind of society do YOU want to live in? And so far these so called "gov't inefficiencies" claimed by DOGE haven't yet materialized.

But let's be REAL! The president Musk, DOGE fiasco, isn't really about finding "gov't inefficiencies", but rather to gut those American governmental institutions, as if they were kind of corporate business in a "private equity" takeover whereby "move fast and break things", is the order of the day.

What YOU MAGA morons, often forget, is the balance! While good governments can't and should run operations totally like a business, they can neither operate totally as a charity.

Ultimately, this is were "good governance and good stewardship", comes into play.

Your Fuhrer and the QAnon/MAGA/Repub clowns, have neither!

I did not say it would happen with Biden. In fact, I have said when I predict things it is not based on the when but the how. Yes, if the amount of tax dollars going to interest payments keeps going higher and higher, and the only other person I have seen talking about this is Elon Musk, there will be a recession or worse. Historically, when the percent of tax revenues going to interest payments exceeds 30%, default is thought to be inevitable, and we are past that.

(...kkkk!) Backpedaling again! Do what you do best, Carnac the Magnificent!

[SubCmdr]

Eliminate Corporate / Ag Welfare. Eliminate the pay as you go Social Security System and have it funded in the same way that pensions used to be funded. Cut Defense Spending. Pay down the debt. Make a balanced budget a requirement. Government Borrowing can be authorized only for spending on long term capital projects.

In Additional

Flat Across the board 100% Tariffs on all goods (no exceptions).

Fire the Fed Chairman.

Allow POTUS to be the Chairman of the Fed.

Lower Rates.

ROTFLMAO!

[Elvis 2008]

Agreed! The Repubs are great at picking the pockets of their gullible MAGA masses and redistributing it to their own billionaire robber baron pockets.

LOL. Given how much Tesla and Truth Social have fallen, you will have to tell me how Trump and Musk are getting rich off Trump's administrative scheme. For those of us who can do math, they have been hurt a lot. They just have the reserves to withstand it.

Yeah, the irony of what president Musk is doing with DOGE, lies in the fact that Musk, who has built his fortune largely through government aid, subsidies, and contracts, is now leading an aggressive campaign to slash federal spending and dismantle agencies, that helped fledgling individuals and organizations, like his own, back-in-the-day.

LOL again. Musk did more for global warming than anyone, and for a dyed in the wool EV loving Democratic douche like yourself, it is amazing to see you all pull the rug out from under him because he got tired of the insane Democratic antics.

Musk looked at the insane trade and budget deficits and he knows as I do that unless those are gotten under control, the USA is done. Sure, I would have preferred a gradual rollout versus the Trump shock and awe tariff campaign but the USA HAS been getting screwed on a lot.

It was funny when Zelensky mouthed off to Trump and Vance and then ran back to his European supporters. Europe had a meeting about what they were going to do. The European leaders declared they were not going to stand by and let Russia take over the continent and they were going to step up in the wake of the USA and its declining leadership. There were big words, and in the end, after declaring the Ukraine war was this major emergency, they gave Ukraine no money and all they agreed to do was meet again several months later.

Whether RIGHT or WRONG or whether they DID or DID NOT meet their targeted goals, it was still a tangible plan of action and a document for all to see, to hold gov't ACCOUNTABLE, to their own praise or bullshit, to what they said would work, actually worked, the way they said.

Again, LOL. The guy has been in office for 3 months. I am going to judge him based on whether he can tame the federal deficits, trade deficits, get us out of Ukraine, pull us out of NATO, and tame the beast that was the ever ravenous deep state.

On that last point, Trump has hit a home run. Say what you will about DOGE and how it did not achieve the cost savings desired. The deep state is reeling and the the government reports on censorship and Covid have been what we all expected from this administration. As for Colombia University, it folded like a cheap suit, and Harvard is so damned stupid, they risk losing their tax exempt status, and Matt Taibbi did a piece on Harvard that was an amazing takedown. If you just read or listen to the lame stream media, you missed it.

And yes, why is Harvard, a place where people working for their hedge / endowment fund and are making millions, tax exempt Spidy? When you talk about the robber barons and evil venture capitalists, people working the Harvard hedge fund does not come to the top of your list, does it?

So your party is what you condemn, Spidy. You condemn Musk not when he is sucking off the government but when he goes Republican. You blast hedge fund and greedy capitalists but not YOUR greedy capitalists.

If the Democrats had a plan to do all that I said, I would consider jumping ship. The most laughable part is the Democratic party is so bought and paid for, they had to roll out Bernie Sanders as he was the one voice that was at all anti-establishment. Thing is it would be hard to underestimate what a complete ass Bernie made of himself during the RFK Jr. Senate hearings and his onesy comments. Again, you probably did not hear about it.

So yeah, I do wish Trump would tone it down a bit as opposed to his brash take no prisoners attitude, but he is who we have. Any other pol once he got where Trump is would have flipped. He would have played ball. He would have taken the money the lobbyists had given him and changed positions. Why the fuck did Bernie turn on RFK Jr? Why the fuck is Bernie caring about big pharma? It is comical, and Bernie is the best you all have.

You all keep going on about how great Dems are, but none of you have a plan to balance the budget or lower trade deficits. All you have is griping at Trump and demanding human trafficking illegals get due process. Unfucking real. THAT is the hill you all want to die on?

[SubCmdr]

Great Article and spot on, w/r to the tremendous amount of gov't cheese, that help him build his business, when other investors were cutting bait!

Yeah, the irony of what president Musk is doing with DOGE, lies in the fact that Musk, who has built his fortune largely through government aid, subsidies, and contracts, is now leading an aggressive campaign to slash federal spending and dismantle agencies, that helped fledgling individuals and organizations, like his own, back-in-the-day.

The contradiction and hypocrisy, underscores how Musk's rhetoric of "efficiency" clashes with his history of heavily subsidized and leveraged government assistance and resources, to build his empire, by the very system he now seeks to dismantle.

I've pointed out before. Only in the Dis-United States of America could we have the richest man in the world posing with a chainsaw as he angles to dismantle and eliminate that benefits that the poorest of the world get. Sociopathic if you ask me.

It is the way of the Republican Racists!

[SubCmdr]

Tell us why you split Richmond Va for the DR?

Tell us why you split Richmond, VA? Confederate son living in a Cambodian Slum. How Ironic?

[Spidy]

That is what the Republican Racists are best at.

Those who cannot think for themselves are destined to have others think for themselves. People are looking to be rescued. The Republican racists are giving the hope by blaming others in order to distraction from the greatest income / wealth distribution inequality in the entire world.

Agreed! The Repubs are great at picking the pockets of their gullible MAGA masses and redistributing it to their own billionaire robber baron pockets.

Our Republican Racists make the statements, tell the lies, but then do not back anything up with facts.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/federa...tax-dollars-go

Here is one for you Spidy. Let's see if the Republican Racists among us address it.

FACTS, nah the Republican Racist don't want no facts.

Remember how past administrations (that knew how to govern), had always provided reams of documents, binders and pages of synopsis, detailing how something "like tariffs", would be implemented, or how they were going to work, and what or how the expected results and metrics would be measured? And these were available to the public, as a documented economic strategic plan of action.

Whether RIGHT or WRONG or whether they DID or DID NOT meet their targeted goals, it was still a tangible plan of action and a document for all to see, to hold gov't ACCOUNTABLE, to their own praise or bullshit, to what they said would work, actually worked, the way they said.

Today, it's just the American Fuhrer's Jedi Mind Trick, as he loves to say "Just TRUST ME!", and has all his sycophants parroting, "...just trust the president. Trust the process on tariffs..."

Yeah NO FACTS, do documentation and therefore NO ACCOUNTABILITY! Just a clown show on continual, rinse, recycle and repeat!

Let us not forget that Musk has built not one but to billion dollar business directly on the back of decades of government research and then received DIRECT support for his businesses.

OH SHIT! Here is another link:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...racts-funding/

How you like me now?

Great Article and spot on, w/r to the tremendous amount of gov't cheese, that help him build his business, when other investors were cutting bait!

Yeah, the irony of what president Musk is doing with DOGE, lies in the fact that Musk, who has built his fortune largely through government aid, subsidies, and contracts, is now leading an aggressive campaign to slash federal spending and dismantle agencies, that helped fledgling individuals and organizations, like his own, back-in-the-day.

The contradiction and hypocrisy, underscores how Musk's rhetoric of "efficiency" clashes with his history of heavily subsidized and leveraged government assistance and resources, to build his empire, by the very system he now seeks to dismantle.

[SubCmdr]

Because some of us banked the historic stock market gains earned under previous Dem administrations in order to mitigate the pain of the inevitable dramatic downturn under Repub administrations.

The same as Buffett just did at the end of Biden's presidency.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/08/warr...ndroidappshare

Eih Tooms just hit a drop the bat and walk off grand-slam.

I wrote this in the Thailand Lounge and Chat. Please note it is a quote that you can review in it's entirety word for word by hitting the view original post link.

Money is not a problem for me and my crew. We have multiple income sources. The stock market going down is an unfortunate but cyclical action over time. Unless your are funding you day to day expenses using dividends paying stocks, those dividends being cut is the only way the current decline in the economy of the DisUnited States of America can effect ANY individual holding stocks. The real effect is purely psychological. It is call the WEALTH effect. You see you have less wealth so you feel like you need to spend less money. Personally I have never let the up and downs of the stock market affect my day to day expenses. Me and my crew have lost some money. But we all have war chests of cash in reserve and are currently hunting for bargains.
The members of my crew who followed my lead and took profits in December of 2024 and January of 2025 are sitting pretty like me. I just looked at some reports about my portfolio and the numbers are EYE POPPING!
When you are a true trader you make money in both up and down. markets. My money that remains in the stock market is house money. I have long before removed my original investment and a substantial portion of my profits. Holla!.
Ballin like Stock Market Pro!
I took money out of the stock market and put it into income producing real estate.
Get right wit ya!

[EihTooms]

How are you guys not affected by all this?
The amount I'm down in my brokerage account is something akin to a years worth of expenses and cost of living shit. If I had the smarts to sell my mag 7 positions before all this happened, I coulda quit my job and lived off of it for a year at least. Kinda ride this out. Maybe even have a trip or 2 to Thailand. Fuck, this is sad. I'm so so sad.

I don't get how you guys can be so happy in the midst of all this. Do we not all live on the same planet? Aren't we all buying the same groceries? Paying taxes? How are all of you so carefree about all this? We're literally dying here. Going homeless soon for a lot of us. Come on guys. Have some sympathy dudes.

Because some of us banked the historic stock market gains earned under previous Dem administrations in order to mitigate the pain of the inevitable dramatic downturn under Repub administrations.

The same as Buffett just did at the end of Biden's presidency.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/08/warr...ndroidappshare

Buffett is defying that downward trend with a cautious approach: The "Oracle of Omaha" compiled a record $334 billion in cash at the end of 2024, according to SEC filings.

[SubCmdr]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdYu2eGq/

This is old news. The Professor does not know. Since he doesn't he better ask somebody. That somebody is me.

The Republican Racists taking a beating when it comes to the RULE of LAW!

US Supreme Court orders temporary halt to deportations under antique law

Block on removal of migrants without due process sets up the possibility of another challenge by the Trump administration to the power of the courts.

Like a NBA Highlight reel. Got blocked.

Oh, that was nasty!

Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett all appointed by our current POTUS. All voted that DUE PROCESS AND RULE OF LAW remains the law of the land.

To all the chicken littles screaming democracy is ending that don't know how the constitution of the United States work: you don't know what you are talking about!

[HotDog666]

You really expect anyone to take you seriously when you come here as guest making your ad hominem (look it up food on a bun) attacks.

You make a lot of assumptions. Let's speculate. What if the encounter with the POLICE anywhere in the United States of America begins with a polite response where I inform them I am one too? ROTFLMAO!

You don't have to. He was a guest. I proved the information in previous post. So, just because you don't like HOW I am saying it, that does not stop it from being the truth, your homeboy Khalil was a guest. He got out of pocket and he got checked. So, sorry for you. But I don't give a fuck. He got his due process. Let me add that due process is still in process and the final word is not in. Try that in China or Russia. If you think they are so nice why don't you reside in a country other than the United States of America. Like your own for example.

The law is the law and the Article II branch has found a loophole in the the law that allow this action to be taking against your homeboy. If you do not like the law, petition for the regress of your grievances as allowed for in the Constitution of the United States of America to your representative. Your are a citizen are you not?

If you are not, would you like me to do it for you with my representative or Senator of my State?

The idea that you disagree does not make anything you say correct.

Potential Constitution Crisis yes. Still playing out it is.

There is not serious conversation to be had with a guest to my country that is not interested in debating the issue but instead wants to simply engage in ad hominem attacks against someone they disagree with.

So, since that is what you want to do. Check the photo below and tell me if you use this as a lotion, a face moisturizer, or a lube when you are being a International Trick?

OK, let's try again for the third time.

I fear you are being somewhat optimistic that you'd get this far, my dear Stephen, in an encounter with the cops. Please don't over estimate your likelihood of a positive encounter with American cops. We'd miss you.

I was being a little kind to you but I'll tell you I was vicariously embarrassed for you by you appealing to this mongering board on whether you're a second class citizen. Note that no one responded. I also note that you didn't address your little cap in hand "aww shucks master" appeal to whatshisname, Nyzhenov? You know the chap who referred to you as "the colored boy" or "darkie"? That's the thing with racism, Stephen: it may be a minority who are racist to you, but you are nonetheless a second class citizen. But you keep telling yourself you're not, attaboy. After all, you need something to anchor your own cognitive dissonance on, don't you?

Let me refresh your memory on this topic: you claimed that the "rule of law" was what distinguished American (mis) treatment of the likes of the El Salvadorian and Mahmud Khalil from how Russia behaves. I've literally given you evidence of how a) the Executive continues to defies the judiciary and b) how your laws are made up as you go along with regards to Mahmud Khalil, in defiance of your supposed constitution, everything America claims to stand for, and natural justice, based on contrivance and downright lies by the Executive. I also note how you've characteristically disingenuously transitioned your rebuttal from "rule of law" to "due process" which are not synonymous. If it is due process, then going back to my original point, Russia and other tyrannies also have "due process". There are courts and trials. These are due process, but it does not amount to justice.

Finally no matter how many times you repeat your canard it does not make it true. Mahmud Khalil was not a guest, he was a permanent resident. It would not have mattered regardless but your lies in endeavouring to gloss over his treatment in the "land of the free unless you criticise Israel for genocide, home of the brave" cannot be permitted to go unchallenged.

Now do try and not take your questionably sized dick out and shake it about in front of us all whilst yelling "How do you like me now". It really is why you sound like an imbecile.

[SubCmdr]

Or tell me about my country!

You know as well as I do that you're a second class citizen, and denial ain't no river, Homey.

When a International Carpet Bagger quoted above comes in here spewing racial hated the Republican Racists are silent.

They remain silent because they are able to do so because of the 5th Amendment. They remain silent because inside they are joyful at seeing how effective they have been at spreading hate internationally that even individuals like HotDog666 who are not CITIZENS of the Dis-United States of America have picked up and internalized it.

The Republican Racists must feel quite giddy that a International Carpet Bagger will further their racist ideas. That same individual needs to remember that the Dis-United States of America actually elected someone he considers to be a second class citizen to the Presidency of the United States of America. But this individual is so stupid, has swallowed the rhetoric of hate and gotten hooked on it that he does not realize that just because he has brown skin it does not stop him from wearing the same white hoodie the Republican Racists wear up in dis *.

The International Carpet Bagger wants to point out that I am considered to be a lessor in the eyes of some of my fellow Americans. But the International Carpet Bagger does not understand THAT is the history of my people from the very first war on US Soil. My people have answered the call to fight on behalf of the Dis-United States of America throughout its history. Regardless of individuals like the Republican Racists who would choose to erase our contributions to this great nation in a manner that is undeniable.

Senator Cory Booker will go down in history as giving the longest speech in the history of the Senate.

A true American Hero!

It is especially ironic that he broke the record of the man who previously held the record trying to prevent individuals such as Senator Booker from being able to be elected to the Senate in the first place.

Two middle fingers up to all of my fellow Americans that are racists currently residing in the United States of America and traveling abroad!

Yes, Senator Brooker broke the record of the longest speech on the Senate Floor by a racist.

On August 28, 1957, Strom Thurmond, a Democratic United States senator from South Carolina, began a filibuster intended to prevent the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1957. The filibusteran extended speech designed to stall legislationbegan at 8:54*p.m and lasted until 9:12*p.m. the following day, a duration of 24 hours and 18 minutes. This makes the filibuster the longest single-person filibuster in United States Senate history as of 2025. It was also the longest single-person Senate speech until 2025, when the record was broken by Cory Booker of New Jersey, with Booker speaking for twenty-five hours and four minutes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_...ts_Act_of_1957

He does not understand this precisely because of who he is a: International Carpet Bagger. He thinks Permanent Residence is the same as being a US Citizen. It is not and I have pointed this out more than once to him yet he wishes to ignore this fact. Because he disagrees with the process and result of DUE PROCESS UNDER THE RULE OF LAW he says the Dis-United States of America is no different than China or Russia. He is / was just a visitor like his homeboy that got sideways of the law. Better recognize. But he cannot because he is nothing more than a: International Carpet Bagger talking his pure unadulterated male bovine excrement that he spreads like he puts on Hot Dog Relish.

The International Carpet Bagger is a *****. He has never stood for anything in his own country like I have in mine. If I invited him to meet me and suggested that we play a round a golf, he would not show up. Why? Because his type run like a bitches. They are keyboard warriors. Knowing what is going to happen to him if I showed him my golf swing, he has water dripping from his knees and loses his shit. My handicap is low. I am very good ball striker.

So I look forward to the next post from our International Carpet Bagger that will be full of ad hominem attacks because he like the Republican Racists that he emulates he has lost the intellectual argument and his type, like the Republican Racists, he looks up to do not accept defeat gracefully.

Anyone who want to see what White Americans will do to each other only need to study the US Civil War. Do not get it twisted. That war was not fought for the second class citizens as defined by our International Carpet Bagger no the war was fought to preserve the Union and over economics.

Battle of Shilo, 25,000 dead, wounded or missing!

[HotDog666]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdYu2eGq/

For who knows how long Tik Tok or dissent of Trump will be tolerated.

It sounds outlandish, but I feel it's a highly plausible scenario in which violence or political repression comes next. Interested in hearing counter arguments.

[Sirioja]

The orange felon has destroyed the economy Facts are Facts. Only America is Stupid enough to Elect and Support a convicted Fraud asshole like Trumpy.

USA are no brained, especially women, Latinos and black, to elect for second time and after January 2021, a so crazy senile. Even USA justice try to block his decisions. No MAGA, but only shame with this master of bullshiting, low level guy.

[SubCmdr]

Unlike SC, I do not go around bragging about it being up.

Oh, really. Check out the OPs most recent post:

Because my portfolio is up.

Oh, no, you don't brag do you E2008? GTFOH! You know, internet people always talk about their winners. Never they're losers. Except me.

The Republican Racists taking a beating when it comes to the RULE of LAW!

US Supreme Court orders temporary halt to deportations under antique law

Block on removal of migrants without due process sets up the possibility of another challenge by the Trump administration to the power of the courts.

The Government is directed not to remove any member of the putative class of detainees from the United States until further order of this Court, the justices wrote in an unsigned order.

Two of the nine justices on the Supreme Court, conservatives Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, dissented from the decision.

Like a NBA Highlight reel. Got blocked.

Oh, that was nasty!

[Elvis 2008]

*sigh*, the amount I'm down in my brokerage account is something akin to a years worth of expenses and cost of living shit. If I had the smarts to sell my mag 7 positions before all this happened, I coulda quit my job and lived off of it for a year at least. Kinda ride this out. Maybe even have a trip or 2 to Thailand. Fuck, this is sad. I'm so so sad.

I don't get how you guys can be so happy in the midst of all this. Do we not all live on the same planet? Aren't we all buying the same groceries? Paying taxes? How are all of you so carefree about all this? We're literally dying here. Going homeless soon for a lot of us. Come on guys. Have some sympathy dudes.

Because my portfolio is up and so is Buffett's. https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/08/warr...-sell-off.html