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04-25-25 13:08 #17996
Posts: 24433Originally Posted by Sirioja [View Original Post]
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04-25-25 09:34 #17995
Posts: 24433Originally Posted by Sirioja [View Original Post]
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04-25-25 01:39 #17994
Posts: 638Welp.
Welp, there goes the economy. Shit. What's it going to take for stocks to go up again. Damnit AAPL, Damnit NVDA!
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04-25-25 01:31 #17993
Posts: 1500President Musk's penchant for lying and cheating...
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
While I agree the "Everything Trump Touches Turns To Shit And Dies" memo, was obviously somehow overlooked by the jumping jack-ass president Musk, the QAnon\MAGA predilection to constantly "project" and "lie" memo, evidently was NOT lost on him, as he claimed in true "Trumpian" fashion, these surveys were "a hoax", and paid by his "enemies".
I say this, due to the recent similar survey, in Germany, where 94% of Germans (100K) say they won't buy a Tesla car. Then mysteriously, just a couple of days later, 70% of Germans (400K) say they would by a Tesla. https://electrek.co/2025/03/14/tesla...y-a-tesla-car/ I did think to myself, this sounds sneakingly suspicious, like Musk was paying German Afd supporters to take that survey. But naturally it was something more "efficient" and even more nefarious...
Turns out:- "On Tuesday, Musk reposted a Tweet on X (formerly Twitter) that showed the survey now says 70% of people in Germany would buy a Tesla again. This sudden shift in the poll's results raised suspicions. And sure enough, T Online has now reported that bots manipulated the survey, with 253,000 votes originating from just two U.S.-based IP addresses. Now, with sales plummeting, Tesla faces an uphill battle to regain consumer trust." https://www.autoblog.com/news/94-of-...a-survey-finds
Sales in Germany reflect the survey, and are in a downwards spiral and have not yet recovered from YoY or MoM sales in 2025. Tesla is losing market share in Europe, as sales drop over 30% in Q1 2025.
Not the first or last time, the non-elected president Musk, has tried to bribe, buy, fudge and cheat his way to a win. Just recently, of course, in Wisconsin and FAILED!
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04-24-25 16:54 #17992
Posts: 4203Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Of course, this is the problem with you Democratic douches. You think Republicans are against spending taxes for clean water and roads. No, that is the one-third of our taxes we least object to. What we object to is the income redistribution.
Why the fuck should I and people in my age distribution have to pay for our own health insurance and for slugs like people with you? You have the money to pay for your own health care, and seniors like yourself have more assets than any other age group. Your generation is so fucking greedy that the amount I and others pay is not enough. No, the government has to borrow money to pay for slugs like you, and your generation of slugs scream bloody murder at even the thought of not getting a freebie.
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04-24-25 12:38 #17991
Posts: 6825Really. Stop lying.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
But I still pay Federal and State taxes on my passive income and rental property every year.
You didn't go to public school? Never drive or walk on a public road? Don't drink clean and safe tap water?
The fact that you have been enjoying those and countless more privileges in the USA over the past 13 years thanks to my tax dollars while I have not enjoyed one physical reality of the USA in all that time tells me you owe me a refund.
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04-24-25 08:48 #17990
Posts: 4203Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
As for paying taxes when abroad, you are lying about that too. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/inte...come-exclusion.
For tax year 2023, the maximum foreign earned income exclusion is the lesser of the foreign income earned or $120,000 per qualifying person. For 2023, the housing amount limitation is $36,000; for 2024, it is $37,950. So you can make $158,000 or so abroad and not pay taxes and if you made that in Thailand, you would be living like a king.
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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04-24-25 08:41 #17989
Posts: 24433And Tesla and tourism in USA keeping on falling, when USA have so bad image with Trump and his gang: Vance, Musk. Failure, not MAGA.
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04-23-25 16:26 #17988
Posts: 4203Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
With a top tax rate of 40.8%, he faces of a federal tax bill of about $10.7 billion from the exercise of these shares.
This is the most in taxes any American has paid in history, and you Democratic douches are protesting he does not have the right to see where it goes? Oh, no, Elon, you are going to pay hundreds of millions for Democratic douche causes like DEI and LGBTQ in Cambodia and Zimbabwe, and you are going to like it.
Taxpayers have no right to say where their tax dollars go should be the Democratic douche slogan of the year.
And the people protesting Musk are being paid, and the funny part is after the US AID scandal we have been seeing that a lot of that money that has been paid to protesters has come from the government taxing Elon. Oh, the government pays these NGOs and they do the end runs around the Constitution and the censorship and pay the protestors. Working people are too fucking busy working to protest oatmeal for brains. I guess your dream scenario is all the people working at Tesla lose their jobs.
As for interest payments on the debt, that goes to some of the richest people in the world. It also goes to countries holding the bonds like Japan and China. And please enlighten me on how my paying interest on the national debt to the CCP is a "government service" that benefits me.
And half of that 39 cents in interest payments was accumulated during Covid oatmeal for brains. And you do not want to talk about that? Yeah, that is because you are not the one paying taxes.
It is funny we hear ad nauseam that women are underpaid compared to men. Why does no one bring up that men are paying a shitload more in taxes?
The USA is mum about this but the UK has been honest, In the last tax year men paid 92 billion in income tax whereas women paid 36.8 billion, which is 60% less. https://fullfact.org/economy/are-wom...-tax-men/There are more women in the workforce than ever before, and yet they still contribute 60% less in income tax than men.
And when you demonize tax paying men, they leave. https://hannity.com/media-room/come-...ou-dinner/This was governor of New York Andrew Cuomo during the pandemic "I literally talk to people all day long who are now in their Hamptons house who also lived here, or in their Hudson Valley house, or in their Connecticut weekend house, and I say, 'You got to come back! We'll go to dinner! I'll buy you a drink! Come over, I'll cook! The Democratic governor said Monday.
Why in the fuck would Elon want to invest in the USA after this stupid shit? People can not only move from New York to Florida, they can move from the USA to Thailand and work there and not pay any USA taxes. That is the same douche move you and Tooms did. Hell, Elon has already moved from California to Texas, and California lost out on billions in taxes.
What really cracks me up is the guy who mentioned the two out of every three tax dollars goes to someone else was Aaron Clarey. He wrote a book called a world without men and it was an eye opener but what really should scared Democratic douches like you is he advocates for a minimalist life style. He thinks as I do the reason men work hard is to get women, and given how ungrateful American women are, you buy used, do your own repairs, and try to get by with generating as little income as possible because when you make money, the government steals so much. He estimates that a man living the minimalist lifestyle can get by on $20,000 per year and if that happens, you can kiss your social security goodbye.
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04-23-25 16:19 #17987
Posts: 6825Trump just stole Billions and Billions and Billions from us!
Why oh why oh why did Trump suddenly "soften his stance" on the people of the United States of America being given Billions and Billions and Billions of dollars from other countries to pay for everything we want from Childcare, we need Childcare because Childcare is Childcare and groceries, damn I'm glad Trump invented that word, without it costing the people of the USA anything?
How dare he!
Especially since all those other countries have been ripping us off bigly and taking us for a ride on the Trade Deals previous presidential administrations stupidly negotiated to allow them to rip us off and take us for a ride!
Such as the Trade Deals the previous Donald J. Trump administration, well, Donald J. Trump himself, spent years stupidly negotiating with China, Mexico, Canada, etc allowing them to do that to us just a few years ago.
And now, just as the American people were finally going to be given Billions and Billions and Billions of dollars those stupid previous presidential administrations, well, stupid previous presidents like Donald J. Trump ripped off from us up until now he has decided to let those other countries keep all that money they ripped us off for, leaving the American people high, dry and still medium sized ripped off!
Dow rallies 1,000 points after Trump softens stance on Powell, China tariffs.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/22/stoc...ndroidappshare
And, BTW, don't even think this sudden "softening stance" for Trump has anything to do with the stock market, which Trump barely pays any attention to, or his meeting with these elite corporate CEOs or those "Democrat Party Hoax" protests or that his number one political donor's wealth is plunging by the hour! Just DON'T! Because Trump is so smart and so wealthy and he doesn't need anybody else's money and his main mission is never ever ever to CAVE on these things while really teaching that Xi guy a lessen he will never forget!
Trump hosts Walmart, Target and Home Depot CEOs for tariff meeting.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/21/trum...ndroidappshare
President Donald Trump met with Walmart CEO Doug McMillon, Target CEO Brian Cornell and Home Depot CEO Ted Decker to discuss tariffs.
Walmart is in a better position to weather Trumps protectionist trade agenda than many of its competitors.
Trumps aggressive tariff policies have caused uncertainty both for investors and business leaders, many of whom rely heavily on imported goods.
Swear to god.
It's true.
Really.
Well. He might flip on this decision and change his mind about it.
But, either way, it will make all of us rich.
Really.
Swear to god.
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04-23-25 11:53 #17986
Posts: 6825LOL. President MuskTrump did get that memo.
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
But he sure got that Our Glaring Repub MAGA Failures Are Just A Democrat Party Hoax memo, read it, comprehended it and perhaps blitheringly believed it, although that last part has nothing to do with him and all the other MAGAs repeating it.
Here is a hilarious 7 minute video showing the millions of anti-President MuskTrump protestors all around the country, in every state really, that Musk's MAGA Mental Misalignment has concluded is a "hoax", they actually love him but are either paid "wasteful, fraudulent and abusive" money to protest against him or are all so addicted to the "wasteful, fraudulent and abusive" money, NONE of which he and his Dogies have yet to discover, uncover and indict for, that they come out en masse merely "pretending" to oppose him and his methods so the "wasteful, fraudulent and abusive" money keeps flowing in making everyone as rich as he is. Er was.
LOL. It is a MUST SEE video:
https://youtu.be/wU23jm417-k?si=Hplv3iO8H3g9ruUQ
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04-23-25 07:58 #17985
Posts: 1500QAnon/MAGA/Repub ineptitude for the WIN...kkkk!
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
So Yeah, when protestor plaques say "Trump do the world a favor and S T F U!" tells you, American's have lost confidence in your Fuhrer! Is it any wonder Buffett, went to mostly cash!
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04-23-25 07:22 #17984
Posts: 1500QAnon/MAGA/Repub Clowns, good stewardship, not in their vocabulary...
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
Where are the links, Carnac the Magnificent?
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008
Just because you, your Fuhrer and FOXY Muse, want to oversimplify federal spending and misrepresent the purpose of tax dollars, and call Social Services, Medicare, Medicad, ...etc "nothing", like president Musk and DOGE are doing, then by all means, have fun down that rabbit-hole, it doesn't mean I'm gonna follow.
- The U.S. government collects taxes from taxpayers to finance a range of public services and the institutions that provide those services. In 2023, the IRS collected $4.7 trillion in federal taxes.
The five largest budget items in the federal budget usually include: Health, Social Security, national defense, interest on the national debt, and income security programs.
In most years, the federal government operates in a budget deficit—meaning it spends more than it makes. As a result, the government ends up borrowing money to make up the difference and increases the national debt in the process.
While you may have little control over how the government spends your taxes, you can prepare yourself for tax season and take advantage of ways to lower your tax bill.
Even right-wing business mogul, Dave Ramsey recognizes the importance of gov't taxation and the good of the public services they provide: https://www.ramseysolutions.com/taxe...r-tax-money-go
The question isn’t "why should I pay my fair share of taxes?" but "what kind of society do YOU want to live in? And so far these so called "gov't inefficiencies" claimed by DOGE haven't yet materialized.
But let's be REAL! The president Musk, DOGE fiasco, isn't really about finding "gov't inefficiencies", but rather to gut those American governmental institutions, as if they were kind of corporate business in a "private equity" takeover whereby "move fast and break things", is the order of the day.
What YOU MAGA morons, often forget, is the balance! While good governments can't and should run operations totally like a business, they can neither operate totally as a charity.
Ultimately, this is were "good governance and good stewardship", comes into play.
Your Fuhrer and the QAnon/MAGA/Repub clowns, have neither!
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
- The U.S. government collects taxes from taxpayers to finance a range of public services and the institutions that provide those services. In 2023, the IRS collected $4.7 trillion in federal taxes.
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04-22-25 20:30 #17983
Posts: 5553How to balance the Federal Budget
Eliminate Corporate / Ag Welfare. Eliminate the pay as you go Social Security System and have it funded in the same way that pensions used to be funded. Cut Defense Spending. Pay down the debt. Make a balanced budget a requirement. Government Borrowing can be authorized only for spending on long term capital projects.
In Additional
Flat Across the board 100% Tariffs on all goods (no exceptions).
Fire the Fed Chairman.
Allow POTUS to be the Chairman of the Fed.
Lower Rates.
ROTFLMAO!
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04-22-25 17:43 #17982
Posts: 4203Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
Musk looked at the insane trade and budget deficits and he knows as I do that unless those are gotten under control, the USA is done. Sure, I would have preferred a gradual rollout versus the Trump shock and awe tariff campaign but the USA HAS been getting screwed on a lot.
It was funny when Zelensky mouthed off to Trump and Vance and then ran back to his European supporters. Europe had a meeting about what they were going to do. The European leaders declared they were not going to stand by and let Russia take over the continent and they were going to step up in the wake of the USA and its declining leadership. There were big words, and in the end, after declaring the Ukraine war was this major emergency, they gave Ukraine no money and all they agreed to do was meet again several months later.
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
On that last point, Trump has hit a home run. Say what you will about DOGE and how it did not achieve the cost savings desired. The deep state is reeling and the the government reports on censorship and Covid have been what we all expected from this administration. As for Colombia University, it folded like a cheap suit, and Harvard is so damned stupid, they risk losing their tax exempt status, and Matt Taibbi did a piece on Harvard that was an amazing takedown. If you just read or listen to the lame stream media, you missed it.
And yes, why is Harvard, a place where people working for their hedge / endowment fund and are making millions, tax exempt Spidy? When you talk about the robber barons and evil venture capitalists, people working the Harvard hedge fund does not come to the top of your list, does it?
So your party is what you condemn, Spidy. You condemn Musk not when he is sucking off the government but when he goes Republican. You blast hedge fund and greedy capitalists but not YOUR greedy capitalists.
If the Democrats had a plan to do all that I said, I would consider jumping ship. The most laughable part is the Democratic party is so bought and paid for, they had to roll out Bernie Sanders as he was the one voice that was at all anti-establishment. Thing is it would be hard to underestimate what a complete ass Bernie made of himself during the RFK Jr. Senate hearings and his onesy comments. Again, you probably did not hear about it.
So yeah, I do wish Trump would tone it down a bit as opposed to his brash take no prisoners attitude, but he is who we have. Any other pol once he got where Trump is would have flipped. He would have played ball. He would have taken the money the lobbyists had given him and changed positions. Why the fuck did Bernie turn on RFK Jr? Why the fuck is Bernie caring about big pharma? It is comical, and Bernie is the best you all have.
You all keep going on about how great Dems are, but none of you have a plan to balance the budget or lower trade deficits. All you have is griping at Trump and demanding human trafficking illegals get due process. Unfucking real. THAT is the hill you all want to die on?