Medellin Reports

[MikeBayArea]

I know this has been covered repeatedly in this forum, but I'm seeking some current advice / guidance on the topic of avoiding Scopolamine girls, robbings, and danger (in general). So far, the prevailing advice seems to be: 1) Avoid Seeking, Tinder, Bumble. 2) Avoid girls with more than 1 tattoo. 3) Watch drinks and food at all times. 4) Stay at a place that requires guest ID.

Outside of these common recommendations, I'm wondering if anyone has any additional conversations / tips to add to this advice. Clearly, there are many members on this forum that have found a sense of safety in their mongering (even those using Seeking, Tinder, Bumble, or staying in AirBNB, or even drinking and eating with these women). And one question: "Is scopolamine mostly a young woman's game, or our older women also doing this?

My main plan is to meet in public first. Get a sense of them. Book short date (1 to 2 hours). Guest ID at the hotel. Hide all valuables before they arrive. And not drink or eat with any of them. Can you spot any pitfalls to this plan?

I would have much preferred a trip where this wasn't a concern. Where I could party with the girls all night, or days on ends. Much different level of fun this way. But sadly, without speaking Spanish, and hearing the horror stories of the women building trust with the men and then drugging them on the 2nd or 3rd date. So, my plan is to settle for short 1-2 hour dates at my hotel and not drink or eat around them.

Any thoughts appreciated.

[RamDavidson84]

I know. I know. I was joking in my message when I said she was beautiful and we should get married. And then it just spiraled. But I know this isn't real. And I agree I don't want to create a false impression and then have her upset when I'm not going to follow through with it. But I would definitely do a prenup if it were to happen, but it's not. I can get women in the USA but not a dime piece like her in the USA. This type of girl would be on millionaire yachts and such, and in reality, if I were to do this, she would shortly be ditching me for one of those guys, so it's not going to happen.

Here is my best advice for you or anyone who is in your boat, aka someone looking for a long term relationship which is based on more than just sex. If that is what your truly looking for, then form a relationship with a woman from your home country who your going to have much more in common with and be able to communicate with.

Now if your dead set on getting a girl from latin america for their beauty, then at minimum you should become fluent in spanish and ideally you should spend a few months actually living in latin america before you commit to a relationship. Most guys come to the conclusion that a long term relationship is not worth it when they figure out the risks involved combined with the fact how easy it is to get sex in latin america.

That being said, I have heard of some guys finding what they are looking for and forming a real lasting relationship, but like I said they are very rare and not the norm.

[MikeBayArea]

Why are you engaging in these conversations anyway? Do you really think she is attracted to you when she has never even met you?

Do above attractive women in the USA have chats with you not even knowing you?

I personally know of gringos that fall for this and send money. One even tried to bring the girl back to the states.

These girls are desperate to get out of their economic situation. They will say anything to get out.

As Mr. Enternational replied, "tell them you want to live in Medellin".

From my experience, these girls will shift gears and want you to send money on a regular basis then.

I mean it's possible she is attracted to me by my pictures, as I am to her, but I also know that connection is most important. I've had three SugarBaby relationships that have turned into real realtionships where we were exclusive with one another. They were all new to the scene when it happened and they weren't too jaded yet. But my sense with this woman, at 35 years old, is that she likely has much more experience in this dynamic. The truth is, for me, I'm very attracted and briefly entertained the possibility that it could turn into something. She is conversational in English.

Here's the thing, I'm not saying she doesn't want anything. Of course she does. She wants US citizenship. And for this reason she jumped on board for the idea without really getting to know me. My gut is telling me we likely aren't going to have that type of connection that could turn to something real.

And, I know, the moment it feels that marriage isn't happening, she will ask for money. No, she isn't making these commitments for nothing. It's US Passport or an SB relationship for money. And if we ended this trip, and still pretending / considering this marriage proposal, I know the requests for ongoing money in the meantime would begin. Whether true or not, she already planted that she just lost her job, so that's the beginning of the story where she asks for money.

I'm actually at the point with it that I'm over pretending we are going to have something serious, and my plan is to turn it into a sugar baby relationship from the start. Takes the stress out of it. And allows me to be more real, and communicate more directly.

[Jotablue]

I spent some time reading many of the comments here to travel better informed. I'll be sharing a bit about my adventure in Medelland: a friend and coworker gave me the contact of someone who will introduce me to a college girl, and I'll be paying $150 for an overnight stay.

[Mr Enternational]

If they are online they surely aren't in the market for a local. There's single Colombian men all over the place.

By that token in our countries there are single women all over the place too, but we still go online to find chicks, even when dating locally. I do not know what guys are on the sites because in all these years on the internet I have never clicked to see them. I know some people say they need to check out the competition, but that has never concerned me.

He said she's on Seeking so of course she expects something.

I see said the blind man. In that case all bets are off and I am in 100% agreement with you. If I was him I would just play it by ear as if she is a regular chick to see how it turns out.

[Mr Enternational]

I've definitely met normal women. But I've never been to Colombia, and I'm honestly freaked out about the druggings that happen here, and perhaps I'm being overly cautions, but this girl does not seem like the type, but what do I know.

Okay. I got you now. First time jitters. I did not even plan to be in Colombia today. Wound up in Bogota and got on Bumble this morning. In no time there were 3 chicks ready to meet. One was a nurse, one a secretary, and one a student. The nurse said she finished work at 2 and could meet then. The secretary finsihed work, but had to go cook for a friend who is sick, but could meet at 5. The student wanted to meet at 8, but talking about going out. I could tell she was either looking for money or for someone to spend some. Plus she had those Kardashian pics. Sure did not look to be from Bogota. I asked and she said she was from Medellin. The other 2, I knew were just regular chicks.

I met up with the nurse at 2:30 and have not looked back. We came back to my airbnb and started watching a movie. She said after the movie she would go home. I said negative. You will be staying the night. She asked for a shirt and went to take a shower and got in the bed. We ordered rappi (finally got that shit working because since during covid it would not) finished the movie and did the BB that adults do while waiting for the food. Now she says she is going to get up early tomorrow to go home and get more clothes so she can stay tomorrow night too.

The secretary sent messages but I did not answer. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the Bush. In 20 years I have never even thought about druggings, because I know the women I meet with are not the type.

[Rebeljfk]

Hola Amigos!

New here and first quick trip planned to Medellin. Coming in from Miami if anyone has suggestions there. Fairly experienced Monger / Hobbist. Even more so on SB side. Looking forward to sharing intel. Interested in meeting fellow hobbyists in Medellin.

[KeviKev68]

Neither does the average person in Colombia have $2,000 rent as would the average American worker. It is all relative. It is not how much you make; it is how much you need to spend where you live.

Is that your perception of Colombians? Do Colombian women meet Colombian men "for nothing" or do they just stay alone without a mate all of their days? Everybody is not on the take!

You must have very limited interactions with normal people, because after 20 of coming to Colombia and dating normal women, I can assure you this is not the case.

I get your point cost of living is less there but it is rising. I don't know anyone not living in Cali or New York paying 2 k for rent.

If they are online they surely aren't in the market for a local. There's single Colombian men all over the place.

He said she's on Seeking so of course she expects something.

[Muccells]

I've definitely met normal women. But I've never been to Colombia, and I'm honestly freaked out about the druggings that happen here, and perhaps I'm being overly cautions, but this girl does not seem like the type, but what do I know.

Get to Colombia, get your bearings meet some girls in public if you're doing the internet dating site stuff. Get feel for them in a casual public venue that way you get their vibe, see what they look like and how they act. If you want to create some type of longer term relationship I think it's hard for short term vacations. The guys that are successful are their months at a time or live there. Try to use the big head instead of the little head. It's the guys that can rarely travel that go buck wild almost Vegas type of vacations. It's a blitz and sprint! Just depends how you go about it.

[Muccells]

Any recommendations? I looked back over the most recent 20 or so pages and found nothing about hotels other than the St. Peter.

I want a place that is chica-friendly and has either a pool or jacuzzi.

Thanks in advance.

You don't want to use an Airbnb? Plenty of those that require guest to have an I. The but you can have guest. Some don't allow guest or you must register before you check in. Some allow only a certain amount of guest in a certain time frame and others guest friendly. You just have to look at their policy. I've only been using airbnb in Medellin and its worked out great. Front door people, check I. The so you have some security in that to a certain degree of security. If she was a minor trying to pull a fast one on you (and I. The issue).

[IamLookin]

Why are you engaging in these conversations anyway? Do you really think she is attracted to you when she has never even met you?

Do above attractive women in the USA have chats with you not even knowing you?

I personally know of gringos that fall for this and send money. One even tried to bring the girl back to the states.

These girls are desperate to get out of their economic situation. They will say anything to get out.

As Mr. Enternational replied, "tell them you want to live in Medellin".

From my experience, these girls will shift gears and want you to send money on a regular basis then.

Ok, so I'm chatting with a 35 year old. Really pretty in pretty much every way. Like was a drop dead gorgeous type. No tattoos. Clearly a dime piece. And wanting to marry for American citizenship and acting like it's real. Anyways, I'm meeting up wither her. I'm sure she's going to sell the dream. But literally I just imagine her jetting off to LA or Miami the second the fiance visa goes into play. Give me some game, yall?

[Mr Enternational]

Does she have a job and kids? I think it has to cost you something. The average person there who has a job makes peanuts compare to the average worker in the US.

Neither does the average person in Colombia have $2,000 rent as would the average American worker. It is all relative. It is not how much you make; it is how much you need to spend where you live.

I know a few working people who work 6 to 7 days a week. Where would someone have the to time to meet someone for nothing?

Is that your perception of Colombians? Do Colombian women meet Colombian men "for nothing" or do they just stay alone without a mate all of their days? Everybody is not on the take!

She has to expect something because most Colombians think all Americans are wealthy.

You must have very limited interactions with normal people, because after 20 of coming to Colombia and dating normal women, I can assure you this is not the case.

[Nounce]

I want a place that is chica-friendly and has either a pool or jacuzzi.

Energy Living.

[MikeBayArea]

OMG BRO! You do not have to go through all this just for some pussy. As soon as you bust a nut and realize you don't speak the same language, will you really want this girl around? Take things slow! If you want a GFE, then get a GFE and go on some dates or do an overnight, but any American man would be out of his mind to consider marrying a girl from Colombia and attaching his finances to her. That's like getting a loan from the Mafia back in the day to start a business. You know there going to bleed you dry until you got absolutely nothing left.

Have fun, watch your drink. Use common sense. Always think, if its too good to be true, then it is. Every once in awhile, you do see a real relationship form. They are very rare and its usually a successful guy who can get a decent woman in the USA, but wants a slightly hotter and younger girl from Colombia. Is that you? If not, then don't chance it.

I know. I know. I was joking in my message when I said she was beautiful and we should get married. And then it just spiraled. But I know this isn't real. And I agree I don't want to create a false impression and then have her upset when I'm not going to follow through with it. But I would definitely do a prenup if it were to happen, but it's not. I can get women in the USA but not a dime piece like her in the USA. This type of girl would be on millionaire yachts and such, and in reality, if I were to do this, she would shortly be ditching me for one of those guys, so it's not going to happen.

[MikeBayArea]

Does she have a job and kids? I think it has to cost you something. The average person there who has a job makes peanuts compare to the average worker in the US.

I know a few working people who work 6 to 7 days a week. Where would someone have the to time to meet someone for nothing?

She has to expect something because most Colombians think all Americans are wealthy.

She says she has no kids and just lost her job. She's on seeking and I saw her on Tinder. So clearly she has guys financing her. And yes, she clearly wants something which is a US passport, and I'm not really under the illusion that it could work out. She does speak some English and it was nice for a minute to fantasize that it could work out, but the truth is pretty clear as the date gets closer.