Medellin Reports

[Mr Enternational]

I spent some time reading many of the comments here to travel better informed. I'll be sharing a bit about my adventure in Medelland: a friend and coworker gave me the contact of someone who will introduce me to a college girl, and I'll be paying $150 for an overnight stay.

Are you paying that much because she is supposedly in school? If so, then I do not think you have ever been around any Colombian college girls, because that definitely is not one. Have them send you a picture wearing jeans, converse, and a backpack. What you have there is a full fledged hooker.

[MikeBayArea]

So I met this girl next door type off seeking. We met at a mall at first and then later that night. She actually brought me food, and I could tell she really liked me. We go at it, and I could tell that if I offered to pay her any money she would be insulted. Thing is with this girl next door type I could see her liking me for real.

I had a date with a different woman who was a smoke show. On seeing her pics, my friends called her a 10. Car horns blared as she walked by. She is not as extraverted as the GND but she fucks the shit out of me. I cannot get it up for 2 days after we are done. When it was obvious the sex was over, she seemed to want to stay. I was confused. In my mind, I am thinking, "Okay, we are done. You can leave now like all the other women have in the past. Why are you still here?" When she is in the bathroom, I put money in her purse.

I tell this story and Mr. E rags on me like he is ragging on you and says to me, "Why the fuck did you pay her?" I can be honest about this now. I thought the woman was too damned hot to be interested in me just like you are doing now. I was like, "Okay, fine, I will roll with it. I doubt she likes me but let's see. " I ask to see her again. We fuck again. I pay her nothing. Ask to take a trip with her. She says that she would love to. We had a great time. When we go our separate ways, she is balling her eyes out. It was at that moment I finally believed it was possible she really liked me.

The men's rights blogosphere say women shit test men all the time. They play this game to see if the men are just about sex or if they really like them, but we do it too. It is just money instead of sex. Take a woman to a mall. Does she spend the time with you or does she spend all of it in the stores and expects you to buy her something? When it is time for dinner, does she pick out an expensive place or is content to eat at the corner grill? Does she have a list of things she wants you to get when you see her in Colombia or does she say she just wants to see you?

Thing about shit tests is you are not the only one doing it. Everyone is doing it too: friends, family, strangers. I told the story of being in a cab. The cabbie thinks my gal is a hooker and he can overcharge me so I do not look cheap in front of her. She steps in and blasts him. He was shit testing me and her.

There is a lot that is made about whether a woman is a hooker or not, and I think it really is how they look at men. Do you respect him or just want his money? Long term, I want a woman who looks at me as more than an ATM.

I think the problem men have is not that they do not do the shit testing, but they do not look at the results. Your brain tells you the chick is no good but your dick says something else. The people who are not fucking her are a lot more objective than you are, and IMO you need to listen to them.

I had a 66 year old friend meet up with me and my gal at a social event, and she has a smoking hot 31 year old friend. She comes onto my guy friend who is married, and he told me she let him know in graphic detail she would fuck the shit out of him. He has money, but I do not think that was it. She saw how happy her friend was and she wanted that too.

So yeah, the ability to get a goregous woman unlike anything you can ever get in the USA can happen in Colombia. I met a 50 year old guy on a plane with a smoking hot 23 year old wife, but it is the exception not the rule. Based on what I have seen, there is a one in three or four chance she might not be the gold digging hooker type. You are not going to know until you meet her and shit test her.

Unless she is a tatted up El Centro type, I would not worry about being drugged. Go to a public place for the initial meet. That is not just for your safety but hers. Get her into bed as soon as you can. No matter how hot she is, if she is lousy in the sack, you are going to be looking at others if she is lousy in bed.

I know you want to fuck her but for long term, she needs to be so good in bed that you give up other women for her. If you cannot visit Colombia at least once every 3 months or fly her to a halfway point like Mexico, I would not even think about anything long term. The Colombian women really interested in me liked to video chat every night.

It probably is not going to work out but you won't know until you meet her and are around her for a while, but American guys, who are not that great looking themselves, can get the best looking women Colombia has to offer. Good luck.

Awesome advice and post! Thank you! Colombia is truly amazing. Is it really true that ALL Colombia women go down hill at a certain point. I mean there is Sophia Vergara, afterall. Normally I wouldn't be going after a 35 year old, but if she looks like her pics, my god is she gorgeous!

[Mr Enternational]

That will eliminate about 80% of the P4P ladies. Most of them have an obsession with tattoos.

Exactly. Thereby 100% eliminating getting drugged by a chick you chose!

[Nounce]

Any thoughts appreciated.

You really need only one thing. A hotel that will not allow the guest to leave before your permission, and that is until the girl figures out a way to bypass that. There is always an element of risk here.

Tatoo is normal. There is no reason to avoid them if you like the girl. In my experience, often the sex is the better with them.

[Fun Luvr]

2) Avoid girls with more than 1 tattoo.

That will eliminate about 80% of the P4P ladies. Most of them have an obsession with tattoos.

I understand your trepidations being a first time visitor. Before my first trip to Medellin, I had fears of being robbed by highway bandits on the way from the airport to the city. That was because of reading reports. After 15 years and nearing 100 trips, I haven't been robbed nor drugged. I've had small things taken, like a bag of candy, shampoo, scissors, tweezers; but nothing major. I stay in apartments, mostly without front desk security. I don't drink alcohol with the ladies, and I don't get drunk. I sometimes drink a glass of water with them, but I drink it all before sitting the glass down. Most of the ladies are just trying to earn some money to exist. I don't pick up women from Parque Lleras. I have picked up a very few in the past, and most turned into a bad experience.

[JohnnyJohn1992]

Let me know if any of you hobbyists are out there durring this time, would be fun to swap notes. I have some reports from my last visit, will make a detailed report here soon with some contacts.

[Elvis 2008]

If they are online they surely aren't in the market for a local. There's single Colombian men all over the place.

He said she's on Seeking so of course she expects something.

I do not think you get who those single Colombian men are. My gal has a very negative view of Colombian macho men as most of them are. I remember in Argentina once they had a power shortage after they put price controls on electricity. The government responded by being offended that the country was without power. How dare you say we have no electricity? The government then changed the time period to one that was in more in line with when the sun was shining most. It was like a 2 hour switch.

That is how I envision Colombian men. They go back to their wife / GF with cum stains on their pants, lipstick on their mouth, smelling like cheap perfume, and saying to their wives / GFs, why would you think I am cheating on you? How dare you!

One girl I dated actually became friends with her half sister. Can you imagine that in the USA? Your dad is fucking another woman and you become friends with the half-sibling? I guess it is a thing there.

The father of my current gal was fucking three other women when married. One of them even called his wife and told her she was going to steal him. She had enough and finally divorced him.

My gal's baby daddy beat the hell out of her when she was pregnant and even his parents know how he is. I am sure it is going to change, but most guys there get away with all this shit. American women have no clue how good they have it.

[Elvis 2008]

She says she has no kids and just lost her job. She's on seeking and I saw her on Tinder. So clearly she has guys financing her. And yes, she clearly wants something which is a US passport, and I'm not really under the illusion that it could work out. She does speak some English and it was nice for a minute to fantasize that it could work out, but the truth is pretty clear as the date gets closer.

So I met this girl next door type off seeking. We met at a mall at first and then later that night. She actually brought me food, and I could tell she really liked me. We go at it, and I could tell that if I offered to pay her any money she would be insulted. Thing is with this girl next door type I could see her liking me for real.

I had a date with a different woman who was a smoke show. On seeing her pics, my friends called her a 10. Car horns blared as she walked by. She is not as extraverted as the GND but she fucks the shit out of me. I cannot get it up for 2 days after we are done. When it was obvious the sex was over, she seemed to want to stay. I was confused. In my mind, I am thinking, "Okay, we are done. You can leave now like all the other women have in the past. Why are you still here?" When she is in the bathroom, I put money in her purse.

I tell this story and Mr. E rags on me like he is ragging on you and says to me, "Why the fuck did you pay her?" I can be honest about this now. I thought the woman was too damned hot to be interested in me just like you are doing now. I was like, "Okay, fine, I will roll with it. I doubt she likes me but let's see. " I ask to see her again. We fuck again. I pay her nothing. Ask to take a trip with her. She says that she would love to. We had a great time. When we go our separate ways, she is balling her eyes out. It was at that moment I finally believed it was possible she really liked me.

The men's rights blogosphere say women shit test men all the time. They play this game to see if the men are just about sex or if they really like them, but we do it too. It is just money instead of sex. Take a woman to a mall. Does she spend the time with you or does she spend all of it in the stores and expects you to buy her something? When it is time for dinner, does she pick out an expensive place or is content to eat at the corner grill? Does she have a list of things she wants you to get when you see her in Colombia or does she say she just wants to see you?

Thing about shit tests is you are not the only one doing it. Everyone is doing it too: friends, family, strangers. I told the story of being in a cab. The cabbie thinks my gal is a hooker and he can overcharge me so I do not look cheap in front of her. She steps in and blasts him. He was shit testing me and her.

There is a lot that is made about whether a woman is a hooker or not, and I think it really is how they look at men. Do you respect him or just want his money? Long term, I want a woman who looks at me as more than an ATM.

I think the problem men have is not that they do not do the shit testing, but they do not look at the results. Your brain tells you the chick is no good but your dick says something else. The people who are not fucking her are a lot more objective than you are, and IMO you need to listen to them.

I had a 66 year old friend meet up with me and my gal at a social event, and she has a smoking hot 31 year old friend. She comes onto my guy friend who is married, and he told me she let him know in graphic detail she would fuck the shit out of him. He has money, but I do not think that was it. She saw how happy her friend was and she wanted that too.

So yeah, the ability to get a goregous woman unlike anything you can ever get in the USA can happen in Colombia. I met a 50 year old guy on a plane with a smoking hot 23 year old wife, but it is the exception not the rule. Based on what I have seen, there is a one in three or four chance she might not be the gold digging hooker type. You are not going to know until you meet her and shit test her.

Unless she is a tatted up El Centro type, I would not worry about being drugged. Go to a public place for the initial meet. That is not just for your safety but hers. Get her into bed as soon as you can. No matter how hot she is, if she is lousy in the sack, you are going to be looking at others if she is lousy in bed.

I know you want to fuck her but for long term, she needs to be so good in bed that you give up other women for her. If you cannot visit Colombia at least once every 3 months or fly her to a halfway point like Mexico, I would not even think about anything long term. The Colombian women really interested in me liked to video chat every night.

It probably is not going to work out but you won't know until you meet her and are around her for a while, but American guys, who are not that great looking themselves, can get the best looking women Colombia has to offer. Good luck.

[MikeBayArea]

Any recommendations? I looked back over the most recent 20 or so pages and found nothing about hotels other than the St. Peter.

I want a place that is chica-friendly and has either a pool or jacuzzi.

Thanks in advance.

I'm staying at Haven Hotel and you can have one guest per day. Their website is clear about it. Additional guests per day require a deposit of $120,000 cop.

[MikeBayArea]

Get to Colombia, get your bearings meet some girls in public if you're doing the internet dating site stuff. Get feel for them in a casual public venue that way you get their vibe, see what they look like and how they act. If you want to create some type of longer term relationship I think it's hard for short term vacations. The guys that are successful are their months at a time or live there. Try to use the big head instead of the little head. It's the guys that can rarely travel that go buck wild almost Vegas type of vacations. It's a blitz and sprint! Just depends how you go about it.

Great advice thank you.

[MikeBayArea]

I know this has been covered repeatedly in this forum, but I'm seeking some current advice / guidance on the topic of avoiding Scopolamine girls, robbings, and danger (in general). So far, the prevailing advice seems to be: 1) Avoid Seeking, Tinder, Bumble. 2) Avoid girls with more than 1 tattoo. 3) Watch drinks and food at all times. 4) Stay at a place that requires guest ID.

Outside of these common recommendations, I'm wondering if anyone has any additional conversations / tips to add to this advice. Clearly, there are many members on this forum that have found a sense of safety in their mongering (even those using Seeking, Tinder, Bumble, or staying in AirBNB, or even drinking and eating with these women). And one question: "Is scopolamine mostly a young woman's game, or our older women also doing this?

My main plan is to meet in public first. Get a sense of them. Book short date (1 to 2 hours). Guest ID at the hotel. Hide all valuables before they arrive. And not drink or eat with any of them. Can you spot any pitfalls to this plan?

I would have much preferred a trip where this wasn't a concern. Where I could party with the girls all night, or days on ends. Much different level of fun this way. But sadly, without speaking Spanish, and hearing the horror stories of the women building trust with the men and then drugging them on the 2nd or 3rd date. So, my plan is to settle for short 1-2 hour dates at my hotel and not drink or eat around them.

Any thoughts appreciated.

[RamDavidson84]

I know. I know. I was joking in my message when I said she was beautiful and we should get married. And then it just spiraled. But I know this isn't real. And I agree I don't want to create a false impression and then have her upset when I'm not going to follow through with it. But I would definitely do a prenup if it were to happen, but it's not. I can get women in the USA but not a dime piece like her in the USA. This type of girl would be on millionaire yachts and such, and in reality, if I were to do this, she would shortly be ditching me for one of those guys, so it's not going to happen.

Here is my best advice for you or anyone who is in your boat, aka someone looking for a long term relationship which is based on more than just sex. If that is what your truly looking for, then form a relationship with a woman from your home country who your going to have much more in common with and be able to communicate with.

Now if your dead set on getting a girl from latin america for their beauty, then at minimum you should become fluent in spanish and ideally you should spend a few months actually living in latin america before you commit to a relationship. Most guys come to the conclusion that a long term relationship is not worth it when they figure out the risks involved combined with the fact how easy it is to get sex in latin america.

That being said, I have heard of some guys finding what they are looking for and forming a real lasting relationship, but like I said they are very rare and not the norm.

[MikeBayArea]

Why are you engaging in these conversations anyway? Do you really think she is attracted to you when she has never even met you?

Do above attractive women in the USA have chats with you not even knowing you?

I personally know of gringos that fall for this and send money. One even tried to bring the girl back to the states.

These girls are desperate to get out of their economic situation. They will say anything to get out.

As Mr. Enternational replied, "tell them you want to live in Medellin".

From my experience, these girls will shift gears and want you to send money on a regular basis then.

I mean it's possible she is attracted to me by my pictures, as I am to her, but I also know that connection is most important. I've had three SugarBaby relationships that have turned into real realtionships where we were exclusive with one another. They were all new to the scene when it happened and they weren't too jaded yet. But my sense with this woman, at 35 years old, is that she likely has much more experience in this dynamic. The truth is, for me, I'm very attracted and briefly entertained the possibility that it could turn into something. She is conversational in English.

Here's the thing, I'm not saying she doesn't want anything. Of course she does. She wants US citizenship. And for this reason she jumped on board for the idea without really getting to know me. My gut is telling me we likely aren't going to have that type of connection that could turn to something real.

And, I know, the moment it feels that marriage isn't happening, she will ask for money. No, she isn't making these commitments for nothing. It's US Passport or an SB relationship for money. And if we ended this trip, and still pretending / considering this marriage proposal, I know the requests for ongoing money in the meantime would begin. Whether true or not, she already planted that she just lost her job, so that's the beginning of the story where she asks for money.

I'm actually at the point with it that I'm over pretending we are going to have something serious, and my plan is to turn it into a sugar baby relationship from the start. Takes the stress out of it. And allows me to be more real, and communicate more directly.

[Jotablue]

I spent some time reading many of the comments here to travel better informed. I'll be sharing a bit about my adventure in Medelland: a friend and coworker gave me the contact of someone who will introduce me to a college girl, and I'll be paying $150 for an overnight stay.

[Mr Enternational]

If they are online they surely aren't in the market for a local. There's single Colombian men all over the place.

By that token in our countries there are single women all over the place too, but we still go online to find chicks, even when dating locally. I do not know what guys are on the sites because in all these years on the internet I have never clicked to see them. I know some people say they need to check out the competition, but that has never concerned me.

He said she's on Seeking so of course she expects something.

I see said the blind man. In that case all bets are off and I am in 100% agreement with you. If I was him I would just play it by ear as if she is a regular chick to see how it turns out.