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[Explorer8939]

I had a lady over last night who was having a big sad, because her latest Farang "boyfriend" blew her off. He began the relationship with implied promises of big money, maybe a condo, living together, the usual bullshit. That generated into multi-day cohabitation at 1000 baht per day, until he had his fill and "broke up" with her.

She consoled herself by doing an all nighter with a young Turkish guy, but when she came to my condo her "boyfriend" blocked her online.

I tried to explain the concept of karma to her, but she wasn't worried about that, she was worried about how to confront her boyfriend. Because nothing attracts a man more than standing outside his condo screaming at him.

Anyway, it was a busted night for me, and I sent her out to go look for another customer.

[Explorer8939]

I think you are missing the point. You assume everyone else cares as much as you do. You said the chick is a prostitute. You do not think this man knows this? He met her the same way that you did.

When I was in the navy I was at a Filipina named Wendy's crib cuddling with her on the couch. Her husband (an American White guy who was also in the Navy) came home from work, said Hello, and walked right upstairs. In those days we did not have any facebook to be spying on chicks. That man already knew his wife was the base door knob. But it is obvious that he did not care as much as you would have wanted him to. Stay out of mf's business!

On the show Shameless the gay guy goes to a guy's home and calls himself telling the man's wife that her husband has been fucking him and giving him money. The wife said well who the fuck do you think is giving him the money to do it? He was not telling her anything that she did not already know and she was the one facilitating him to do it. All the guy did was fuck it up for himself by overplaying his role.

Why do you continue to overplay your role believing it is your duty to make it known to the world that someone has a boyfriend, husband, or sponsor? Know your role and stay out of mf's business! You gossip more than a broad.

Most sponsors and Farang "boyfriends" would be very angry if "their" Thai lady were going with other Farangs.

Case in point: I built a karaoke rack for a bargirl who likes to sing when she comes to my condo. I posted a photo of it on Facebook and tagged her so she could see it.

Her Swedish sponsor saw it and blocked her (one guy who does use Facebook). He was angry for a week.

I had a lady over last night who told me that a customer promised her 1,000 a day if she would live with him and not go with any other Farangs.

I can't think of a customer boyfriend who is okay with "his" bargirl going with other men. When I travel abroad with a bargirl, her big concern is hiding her location when he makes a call to her.

But she will post photos of her travels because her customer boyfriend doesn't use Facebook.

[SubCmdr]

Why not get a chick and make her a porn star yourself? You could save 10 times the money. A pornstar is only a normal chick that someone put makeup on and gave them a nice hairstyle and got them to fuck on camera. There is nothing mysterious or fantastic about them. Chicks are pornstars because they were broke and took up their last resort of someone paying them to fuck on film. No need to put them on a pedestal.

The reason why people don't make their OWN porn stars is the the same reason why they only believe a prostitute is pretty if they pay them 2 to 3 times the market rate.

Currently it is low season in Pattaya. On Thai Friendly Price for short time is 1000 - 2000 THB. 2000 is 500 over market rate. 1000 is 500 under market rate. 1500 is market rate. Now those who want to believe girls that are willing to prostitute themselves for market prices are ugly so be it.

Your time; Your money; Your dick; Your call!

Let me add that if you hire your prostitute off of Thai Friendly there are no Lady Drinks to buy or Bar Fines to pay.

[SubCmdr]

The problem is a girl agreeing to BBBJ doesn't usually mean CIM. You start leaking jizz and she's going to assume you're about to explode in her mouth or even that you're orgasming right now. So best to specify CIM beforehand. Most girls (at least the young pretty ones) will refuse but there's still a good number who will do it.

It is very simple to just ask:

Can I finish in your mouth?

One of the advantages I have found to asking up front is if a girl does not like it they will often allow you to finish in their pussy instead.

[Mr Enternational]

I'd pay 10 x standard rate to session with them.

In general: Any good idea on how to investigate whether pornstars can be booked?

Why not get a chick and make her a porn star yourself? You could save 10 times the money. A pornstar is only a normal chick that someone put makeup on and gave them a nice hairstyle and got them to fuck on camera. There is nothing mysterious or fantastic about them. Chicks are pornstars because they were broke and took up their last resort of someone paying them to fuck on film. No need to put them on a pedestal.

[Mr Enternational]

You are missing the point:

Lots of guys have a Thai "girlfriend" they send money to. But few ever check the Facebook of their girlfriend to see what they are doing.

Case in point: I knew a bargirl who had a Farang giving her 30 K a month. She told him that she was going to live in the temple for a month. Instead, she went to Brazil with me. And posted on FB every day. The "boyfriend" never checked.

I think you are missing the point. You assume everyone else cares as much as you do. You said the chick is a prostitute. You do not think this man knows this? He met her the same way that you did.

When I was in the navy I was at a Filipina named Wendy's crib cuddling with her on the couch. Her husband (an American White guy who was also in the Navy) came home from work, said Hello, and walked right upstairs. In those days we did not have any facebook to be spying on chicks. That man already knew his wife was the base door knob. But it is obvious that he did not care as much as you would have wanted him to. Stay out of mf's business!

On the show Shameless the gay guy goes to a guy's home and calls himself telling the man's wife that her husband has been fucking him and giving him money. The wife said well who the fuck do you think is giving him the money to do it? He was not telling her anything that she did not already know and she was the one facilitating him to do it. All the guy did was fuck it up for himself by overplaying his role.

Why do you continue to overplay your role believing it is your duty to make it known to the world that someone has a boyfriend, husband, or sponsor? Know your role and stay out of mf's business! You gossip more than a broad.

[BHawk]

I've been looking for a chance to session with Thai pornstars, but it seems difficult.

- Nong Natt. Well, she is a star. So I guess she won't do it.

- Tittiporn. Might be too old by now.

- "Bali". I've seen her working with real estate in Pattaya. Married with kids, so she is probably off market.

- Kookik. Adore her. Don't know if her vids are old.

- Baloon. Beautiful.

(- Praew. OF girl with big tits. Tried to invite her on OF but no success).

Kookik and Baloon might be the most likely to be able to take out. But how can they be reached?

I'd pay 10 x standard rate to session with them.

In general: Any good idea on how to investigate whether pornstars can be booked?

[Explorer8939]

Why should they care? Everyone is not as nosy as you. Some people have their hands full keeping up with their own life than to constantly worry about what others are getting up to. I have facebook, but would never add a current significant other to it. They are involved with the real me. They do not need to be overloaded with the virtual me, nor I them.

I have tons of exes on there but I do not feel inclined to go peeking around to see what they are doing everyday. If there is ever a time I want to know that, I can just send them a message and ask.

Have you seen the shit most people put on facebook anyway? It is just a bunch of garbage that somebody else sent them. I am not in the market of anxiously awaiting the next affirmation with flowers every 5 minutes. The website was much better when it was used as a tool for university students, but I understand that money is responsible for dumbing it down as a pastime for the masses.

You are missing the point:

Lots of guys have a Thai "girlfriend" they send money to. But few ever check the Facebook of their girlfriend to see what they are doing.

Case in point: I knew a bargirl who had a Farang giving her 30 K a month. She told him that she was going to live in the temple for a month. Instead, she went to Brazil with me. And posted on FB every day. The "boyfriend" never checked.

On the flip side, a bargirl professed her eternal love for me and talked about a future together. I checked her FB and found her current Thai husband, dutifully waiting for her to come back to Isaan with a bunch of money.

She eventually did find a sucker, and returned to Isaan with 9 million baht.

[EihTooms]

I've seen one or two fiwfans profiles that said BBFS, but that's out of hundreds I've viewed. I doubt that's an idea that's going to take off anytime soon, and I'm not even sure the majority of those who do seek BBFS would choose the minority of girls who advertise BBFS to all and sundry.

I remember a time, not long ago actually, when the idea of girls in a Happy Ending Massage Shop and on its website no less stating they were OK with BBFS was impossible for long time afficionados of those venues to believe would ever happen.

Then it happened.

Then those websites tried a different way of stating it, perhaps for the sake of cultural image or perhaps for the sake of clarity. Maybe now it is only implied that it is available with some girls. The market will find a way. Regardless, it continued and soon became generally accepted as a perfectly legitimate option to ask for at those shops.

And I think the ease about asking for it has likely spread to other shops and venues. It used to be this terrible thing every manager, mamasan and provider or at least the vast majority of them would recoil in horror over simply being asked about it. Not anymore.

Similar to asking a Thai person on the street where we can score some weed up until 2-3 years ago. LOL.

So after some shops and venues moved into the Modern World of allowing the girls who would be ok with it to say so online or admit it openly at the shops, other girls had to notice that the 15% or so of the providers at their shop who did offer it and make more money from it than they were making otherwise were also managing not to get pregnant, not to die, not to contract incurable, life-altering diseases or be put out of commission due to illness for any time at all.

This is the first I'm hearing of any profile on Fiwfans stating no condom is ok. Even 2 out of hundreds can prove to be the acorn from which a mighty oak grows.

[Werqweq]

Good luck with that!

I am still hoping for the word to get around to those Fiwfans girls and moderators that there is a more of a market for a BBFS option, they would probably call it Raw or simply say no condom ok on their profiles, than there is for Anal and Pearls stitched into the foreskin of some dudes or whatever the fuck that is. LOL. And with birth control pills, PrEP and a slew of antibiotics available in this Modern World, with far less health risk to both parties. The same as is known to be available either implicitly or explicitly at a few Massage Shops around the city.

Scanning dozens of profiles on that Fiwfans link I have not yet seen one implying such a thing by any girl. Although there are many who don't explicitly state Raw is not allowed while so many others do. So you never know.

I've seen one or two fiwfans profiles that said BBFS, but that's out of hundreds I've viewed. I doubt that's an idea that's going to take off anytime soon, and I'm not even sure the majority of those who do seek BBFS would choose the minority of girls who advertise BBFS to all and sundry.

[SubCmdr]

As for the set up to meet girls. Thailand gets annoying really quick with the bar fines and the girls grabbing you only to want you to buy them girl drinks. I actually prefer the Sosua set up where girls mostly leave you alone and it's up to you to pick them.

You have to purchase drinks for girls in the regular nightclubs, Beach Road and on Thai Friendly?

[Mr Enternational]

I amazed at the guys who have Thai "girlfriends" who themselves don't have Facebook. So they can't see when their Tilac posts photos of them on Facebook.

Why should they care? Everyone is not as nosy as you. Some people have their hands full keeping up with their own life than to constantly worry about what others are getting up to. I have facebook, but would never add a current significant other to it. They are involved with the real me. They do not need to be overloaded with the virtual me, nor I them.

I have tons of exes on there but I do not feel inclined to go peeking around to see what they are doing everyday. If there is ever a time I want to know that, I can just send them a message and ask.

Have you seen the shit most people put on facebook anyway? It is just a bunch of garbage that somebody else sent them. I am not in the market of anxiously awaiting the next affirmation with flowers every 5 minutes. The website was much better when it was used as a tool for university students, but I understand that money is responsible for dumbing it down as a pastime for the masses.

[EihTooms]

Man, that's uncalled for. This forum is for sharing information, not hoarding it.
Have you ever talked to any fiwfans girl saying she gets farang customers? Many look like they're seeing a ghost when they open the door and see my farang face behind it.

If traffic from ISG would account for even 0.001% of their customers I'd be mighty surprised. Suspect anyone here who was using fiwfans before would know about it anyway, from the telegram groups or line accounts that are still busy, but which I don't bother checking since I'm not in Thailand.

Surprised they managed to re-open with the same website / domain though. I expected they'd at least would have to find a new name for it.

Can you imagine anyone saying something so silly on a site like this?

First of all, they were closed down before for a reason they should have been closed down. And it wasn't because they had too many customers.

Note this is highlighted prominently on their opening page:

"FWFANS! For those aged 20 and over only. ".

Maybe that complainer disapproves of a shop or service being closed down for the reason they were closed down before. Avoid repeating that reason and they won't be closed down for it again.

Second, I don't recall exactly how their opening page looked before but if you look closely they are not calling themselves "Fiwfans", spelled exactly that way in every instance. See the quote I posted above. Although that page did come up as the 2nd result on an ordinary Google Search before I even finished typing "Fiwf".

And, third, although I have never read a FR or heard a personal testimonial that describes a Real Sex session of DFK, BBBJ and BBFSCIP with a genuinely young and good-looking Fiwfans girl on a first session that compares with the many I have read, heard and experienced with any number of Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy or Patpong gogo bargirls over the years, it is certainly good for this hobby's market for as many potential customers, punters and, most importantly, providers all across the industry to know that at least some version of naked intercourse is available within a short distance of all other P4 P options, with attractive young ladies, that can be had for less than 1,500 baht all in instead of 3,000 plus plus plus baht and how to access it is NOT kept a deep dark secret.

Nor do the operators of the service want it to be kept a deep dark secret. Obviously.

Competition for pricing and service is never a bad thing, gentlemen.

[EihTooms]

I was wondering which idiot would post that here, I guess you're it.

They reopened on the low-key for a reason, now that it will get tons of traffic, good luck keeping it another 6 months.

It came up as the 2nd result on a Google Search for "Fiwfans".

Was that requested or demanded by them in order to keep their service a secret?

I'd love to know who at Fiwfans told you to "Shhh, keep this low-key, we don't really want any customers. We'd rather go out of business for lack of customers than have somebody find us as the top 1-2 results on an ordinary Google Search and upset someone who might shut us down. " LOL.

[Explorer8939]

I amazed at the guys who have Thai "girlfriends" who themselves don't have Facebook. So they can't see when their Tilac posts photos of them on Facebook.

Or the other stuff. Thai ladies are very good about not showing their Thai boyfriends on FB, but they can't resist posting when a customer takes them to Terminal 21 or Central. Or showing the view from a customer's condo.