American Politics

[Newton York]

Look at what's happening to Spain and Portugal. So-called industrialized nations. Rolling blackouts? People killing each other on the streets of Lisbon and Barcelona for the last can of tuna? At this rate, it'll happen here in the States. Thanks a lot! Let's get NVDA's stock price up first, back to at least $140, then we can focus on fixing the economy.

[Spidy]

https://www.pgpf.org/article/budget-...ay-trust-fund/

You look at this and it just shows how gutless the Feds are. They are too chicken shit to raise gasoline taxes to cover highway expenses and instead are racking up debt. There is no reason for any income tax to go towards highways.

Well "Yes" and "No", w/r to your question of "the feds", raising the gasoline tax?

• "YES", under the Dems, the feds raised the gasoline tax in 2008.
• "NO", it has NOT been raised by the feds, under the "chicken shit" Repubs, since the Dems raised.

But I do agree, that under the Repub feds, your characterization of them being "gutless" and "chicken shit", is very much, an accurate statement..[/QUOTE]Nah, Never! Well not this time, at any rate!

But hey, what's stopping your "gutless" and "chicken shit" MAGA/Repubs (w/r to having all three (3) houses, again, in the 2nd Fuhrer Term), now up at bat, from raising the gasoline tax, to fund the HTF? They'd better not strike out!

Better yet, maybe that Repub clown show cabinet/admin, should get the minority "DEI" Marco Rubio, to do it, since he's the only Repub politician, now taking over and assigned 4 to 5 other jobs, from other inept cabinet members, in capable of doing anything.

[Spidy]

https://www.pgpf.org/article/budget-...ay-trust-fund/

You look at this and it just shows how gutless the Feds are. They are too chicken shit to raise gasoline taxes to cover highway expenses and instead are racking up debt. There is no reason for any income tax to go towards highways.

Well "Yes" and "No", w/r to your question of "the feds", raising the gasoline tax?

• "YES", under the Dems, the feds raised the gasoline tax in 2008.
• "NO", it has NOT been raised by the feds, under the "chicken shit" Repubs, since the Dems raised.

But I do agree, that under the Repub feds, your characterization of them being "gutless" and "chicken shit", is very much, an accurate statement.

So while the HFT/gasoline tax, for whatever political reasons, has always been seen and used, as a political football, it would seem the political gamesmanship surrounding raising gasoline taxes to fund the HTF, is oddly viewed as tantamount to political suicide. So by all means I think the Repubs should have at it and raise the gas tax.

My suggestion, would be to just lump it in with the Fuhrer's tariff taxes....

So if we're keeping score and we are, the last party, to raise the unpopular and unfavorable gasoline tax, was the Dems, and Bill Clinton, some 20+ years ago. So by all accounts, it's has been the Repubs turn at bat, (so to speak), for some time now, to raise that unpopular tax!

You are still striking out.

Nah, Never! ...Well not this time, at any rate!

But hey, what's stopping your "gutless" and "chicken shit" MAGA/Repubs (w/r to having all three (3) houses, again, in the 2nd Fuhrer Term), now up at bat, from raising the gasoline tax, to fund the HTF? They'd better not strike out!

Better yet, maybe that Repub clown show cabinet/admin, should get the minority "DEI" Marco Rubio, to do it, since he's the only Repub politician, now taking over and assigned 4 to 5 other jobs, from other inept cabinet members, in capable of doing anything.

[RamDavidson84]

When I said %99.99 of Americans aren't racist, it was an exaggeration a bit I guess. I still say a very small percentage of Americans are truly racist, both white and black and any other ethnicity. Of course there will always be a percentage of mentally ill individuals or very insecure uneducated people who fall to racism. Its unavoidable.

Racist Republicans is hate speech and it shouldn't be allowed and it offends me. I would never start with racist insults and I don't say those things as insults to people no matter what. I also don't condone people saying hate speech to me.

Here is a list of black American Heroes in my eyes worthy of a PEACEFUL PROTEST! Douglas, Tubman, King, Ali, Parks, Obama, Malcom X, Spike Lee, Tupac, and hundreds of others. I won't join a movement that glorifies drug addicted professional thieves.

[Elvis 2008]

Where even to begin.

Remember when Trump took credit for the stock market gains under Biden in early 2024 because, he said, polls showed him ahead of Biden?

God, you are so full of shit. These are today's headlines.

In a clear shift in tone Friday, China's Commerce Ministry said it was weighing starting talks with the USA To halt a trade war while expressing Beijing's wish for the Trump administration to "show sincerity" to talk. Previously, the ministry had demanded that Washington slash its steep tariffs on China first as a condition for negotiations.

S&P Erases All 'Liberation Day' Losses As Beijing Bends Knee.

Trump's April tariff revenue topped $17 billion. That dwarfs any haul from his first term.

USA Payroll growth totals 177,000 in April, defying expectations.

Trump came into office on January 20 of the 1st quarter. That was Biden's quarter.

Is that what you are going to do every day is make shit up about how great the economy was under Biden and how terrible it is under Trump? Maybe you do not get this from Thailand but not that much has changed with the economy.

But there is some bad news for parasites like you: DOGE staffer Steve Davis told Fox News's Jesse Watters Primetime that a $4 billion coronavirus fund allocated to the Department of Education had virtually no oversight. "There was a $4 billion COVID fund in the Department of Education, and there was no receipts required, so people could draw down on it, and when people looked into itit wasn't us, it was before us they found the money was used to rent out Caesar's Palace for parties, rent out stadiums," Davis said. He added that DOGE implemented a simple fix: requiring receipts for withdrawals. "That was the only change that was made," Davis noted. "And upon doing so, nobody drew down any money. ".

Now we just to look at all those on entitlement programs and the old folks who use their handouts to buy hookers.

[SubCmdr]

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[EihTooms]

Where even to begin.

Remember when Trump took credit for the stock market gains under Biden in early 2024 because, he said, polls showed him ahead of Biden?

The 100 years long pattern of horrific Repub Economic Policy and stewardship results vs far, far superior and historic Dem Economic Policy and stewardship results triggering the Repub gaslighting of blithering idiots in the country into believing that Repubs are responsible for the great Dem Administration successes while Dems are to blame for the horrific Repub Administration failures continues on steroids under Trump:

Trump says he'll blame Biden for 2nd quarter GDP after blaming him for Q1 drop.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/30/trum...ndroidappshare

President Donald Trump blamed former President Joe Biden after new data showed USA Gross domestic product contracting in the first quarter of 2025.

He suggested he will blame Biden for the second quarter, too.

His claim that the negative GDP and subsequent market declines were a result of Biden's policies is inaccurate.

And for the love of god what must the leaders of every other powerful as well as every "shithole" country in the world think when they see that blithering, blathering, astonishingly stupid, fat fuck Trump's quivering cheeks, pretend "tough guy" watery eyes stare, hilariously phony menacing voice when he so pathetically insists and tries to convince a genuine, real news interviewer that "up is down, down is up" in the face of blatantly obvious evidence even to a 9 year old that the letters and numbers MS-13 are NOT tattooed on a man's knuckles in a photo and were clearly, obviously, inarguably and irrefutable added to the photo later either by a photo-doctoring app or possibly actually printed right on the finished photo over at Uncle Bill's Old-School Ink and Print Shop!

Watch the face, hear the voice and witness the conclusive evidence of a hopelessly stupid old man demanding that Reality be twisted and altered in order to suit his dangerous and destructive cognitive incapacity:

https://youtu.be/89JJcUHqC30?si=TEpkkZGJSwQpz_8-

[SubCmdr]

I fear you are being somewhat optimistic that you'd get this far, my dear Stephen, in an encounter with the cops. Please don't over estimate your likelihood of a positive encounter with American cops. We'd miss you.

I was being a little kind to you but I'll tell you I was vicariously embarrassed for you by you appealing to this mongering board on whether you're a second class citizen. Note that no one responded. I also note that you didn't address your little cap in hand "aww shucks master" appeal to whatshisname, Nyzhenov? You know the chap who referred to you as "the colored boy" or "darkie"?
That's the thing with racism, Stephen: it may be a minority who are racist to you, but you are nonetheless a second class citizen. But you keep telling yourself you're not, attaboy. After all, you need something to anchor your own cognitive dissonance on, don't you?

Police shoot Black man with his own legally registered gun

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/czxky4xvg6no

I am not being racist. Police brutality during the days of rodney king was a problem.

Deputies responding to a disturbance call at a Florida apartment complex burst into the wrong unit and fatally shot a Black US air force airman who was home alone when they saw he was armed with a gun, an attorney for the man's family said on Wednesday.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...kill-us-airman

Please choose real heros to protest in the name of

Real hero mother fuck?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But not their own facts!

I will not be silenced by ad hominem attacks. The ignore function is available for those who cannot handle my posts like a stiff shot of whiskey (straight no chase)!

[SubCmdr]

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While you are so impressed with yourself, all I see is some narcissistic loser posting worthless my dick is bigger than yours bullshit.

confirmed bully racist

I fear you are being somewhat optimistic that you'd get this far, my dear Stephen, in an encounter with the cops. Please don't over estimate your likelihood of a positive encounter with American cops. We'd miss you.

I was being a little kind to you but I'll tell you I was vicariously embarrassed for you by you appealing to this mongering board on whether you're a second class citizen. Note that no one responded. I also note that you didn't address your little cap in hand "aww shucks master" appeal to whatshisname, Nyzhenov? You know the chap who referred to you as "the colored boy" or "darkie"?
That's the thing with racism, Stephen: it may be a minority who are racist to you, but you are nonetheless a second class citizen. But you keep telling yourself you're not, attaboy. After all, you need something to anchor your own cognitive dissonance on, don't you?

I need to anchor my own cognitive dissonance?

Someone just called me (an individual who is being told he is a second class citizen in his country of origin) a RACIST! Are you sure about that? Can any of you Republican Racists quote me making a RACIST statement here on ISG in any forum on the entire board? Can you square what our guest says about me being a second class citizen and a racist at the same time while being from the same country as my fellow Americans. A country our guest is saying is racist.

I appreciate how you go so over the top with your racist republican rants that it makes it clear to any reader you dont play with a full deck of cards and therefore there is no reason to take offense.

This post represents cognitive dissonance!

Hell yeah, fuck racists. All 12 of them left. Thank god 99.999999% of Americans don't give a fuck about skin color!

You are claiming that there is no RACISM in the Dis-United States of America in stark contrast to what our guest is saying.

I find it curious that an individual claiming I am having mental problems cannot make a logical argument. Since they cannot make a logical argument they engage in ad hominem attacks. That is the proof that they have lost the intellectual battle. They think that by using fancy words that they have advanced off the elementary school playground. When in reality they have not.

Me saying Republican Racist is no different from Elvis 2008 saying Democratic Douches. But I suppose all Republican Racists completely approve of his language.

Thanks you to Democratic douches, schools are no longer about learning but teaching young people to vote Democrat.

Of course, this is the problem with you Democratic douches.

The Democratic douches allow it as long as the illegals vote Democrat.

Individuals posting up in here can dish it out. But they cannot take it.

[SubCmdr]

The problem occurs when individuals do not know the law the law of the land!

referring to a permanent resident as a guest

The fact is a permanent resident is a guest!

Only the chronically uniformed do not realize this. Permanent Residence is NOT the same as being a US Citizen. I have pointed this out more than once yet individuals wish to ignore this fact.

Because they disagree with the process and result of DUE PROCESS UNDER THE RULE OF LAW they says the Dis-United States of America is no different than China or Russia. Because if you are a Permanent Residence and you get sideways of the law. Better recognize. Why? Because you can get deported.

Another important limitation on lawful permanent residents is that they are subject to the grounds of deportability. If you commit certain crimes or security violations, or even fail to advise USCIS of your changes of address, you can be placed in removal proceedings and deported from the United States

https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo...ifference.html

Learn what the law says before trying to school me. The individuals making ad hominem attacks against me are out of line.

Not sure why you insist on outright attacking the messenger and not the message, but I think you can do better?

Is what SubCmdr saying in the posts provided, or the evidence and FACTs, "untrue", "false" or "dis-misinformation" and out of character for the an American Fuhrer led, MAGA/Republican Party?
If so, by all means, state your case!

Personally, I'm more interested in your rebuttal to his political argument or characterization of the Repubs, w/r to the intended purpose of this thread, which is to debate the political issues posed by other BMs. C'mon man, show us your political gumption and wherewithal! As your ad hominem post, doesn't really invalidate, SubCmdr's actual factual (or unfactual) claims, now does it?

PS: Now I know, you're always a good solid candidate when it comes to providing your "OPINIONS", but what about the occasional FACTS and/or articles to substantiate your positions, in a debate?

Thank you Spidy for bringing the discussion back on point. The Ad Hominem attack is the last refuge of the intellectually bankrupt. I will not be meeting them in court.

They have absolutely no idea what my background was serving my fellow Americans during most of my adult life under the OATH to protect and defend The Constitution of the United States of America from all enemies foreign and domestic. It appeared that we have many guests that don't know the law nor understand what it means to take that OATH. If I was second class citizen I would have never been allowed to take it in the first place. My fellow Americans are often equally uninformed.

How you like me now?

[Elvis 2008]

Hey Elvis, This is great advice from Spidy! If you don't want to pay taxes out the gazoo, like 100 X more than what you get back from the government in benefits, consider a change of scenery! Renounce your citizenship and move! That's what Trump correctly said that some successful, hard working Americans would do if their taxes were increased..

It is funny I was talking to a lawyer on a plane about this. My father was born in another country and I have citizenship there. The problem is that it is not a desirable country. Thing is if I married my Colombian gal, I would get Colombian citizenship and be able to live in most of the desirable places in South America. I have not put a pen to paper and done the calculations, but I suspect if I were to quit working and was in a situation where bond income was not taxed, I probably would be better off abroad. If you set up a holding company in the Bahamas, for example, and claim that the income is made there, then you pay no taxes on it. If you looked at it from a purely financial point of view, yeah, that would work out better. Even foregoing all I have paid into social security, I would come out ahead.

Unlike the idiots here who think that government bonds can never be defaulted on or debt can be eliminated with the stroke of a pen, I know all debt can be defaulted on, even USA government debt. So if I renounced my citizenship and needed to work again, I would be stuck. And the lawyer made the case that a government can call on and draft its citizens to do whatever. Being under the thumb of those knucklehead leaders in Colombia or Latin America is not something I would cherish. Those fools make a demented Biden look competent.

What amazes me is that dumb asses like Spidy do not get is that if people like me did leave, and honestly you can make the economic case for it, the days of his free money would come to an end. They are so fucking stupid they do not even know where their money comes from. The issue with immigration is not the productive people coming in, I want that as it would keep my social security payments solvent, it is the parasites like Spidy who enter illegally that no country wants. The Democratic douches allow it as long as the illegals vote Democrat.

Of all the issues with the USA, it is still the best country to earn a living in. I am not sure how long that is going to last, and while Biden was giving citizenshp away for votes, Trump knows what a valuable resource being an American is. I think Trump has allowed people to buy American citizenship for $5 million, and you could make a case for some people it is worth that. With my gal and her daughter, I would be able to set them up in the USA and that is the other issue I have to confront. What is best for me versus what is best for them.

But I do have a place in Colombia, and there are things I like a lot more there than in the USA. I remember the days when just trying to get news on my sports teams from abroad was murder. Now with the internet, you can not only get the scores, you can watch the games.

New York is learning what it is like to lose your most productive citizens.

[Elvis 2008]

You must live a very sheltered life, not to have used, benefited from directly or indirectly from ATF, DEA, FBI, ICE, U.S. Marshall, ICE and FEMA/U.S. Fire Administration.

LOL. Yeah, unlike you who came from a sperm donor and IVF, I actually had a productive hard working father. Of course, you Democratic douches think big government is your daddy. It is amazing that you have never met anyone in your life who is not a fellow parasite.

Unlike your Democratic douche rewrite of history, the USA became the largest economy in the world without an income tax. Furthermore, our forefathers were greatly concerned that our republic woiuld end when people learned they could vote money for themselves.

The thing that was unique about the USA is that our forefathers were able to experiment with various forms of government and saw what worked and did not. While you are busy sucking up to the military, if you knew your history, our forefathers NEVER want us to have a large standing army as that was typical used to oppress the people.

Because they did not want parasites like yourself who would vote themselves money, the only people allowed to vote were landowners. It was not racism. They wanted people who had a stake in the long term outcome of the country.

Hey, if paying no taxes is YOUR THING, may I suggest Somalia, Afghanistan, Monaco or Cayman Islands (for no "income tax" for the Paycheck Superheroes, like yourself), and let's not forget those failed states like Yemen and South Sudan.

I have got a better idea. How about you and all the other parasites actually go to work and earn a living and leave me and all the other productive people the fuck alone? For the millionth time, I do not object to the 1/3 of income tax going for government services but the 2/3 going to parasites like you so you can pay for hookers abroad.

What amazes me is that you so fucking selfish that you are driving the country into debt with your parasitism and consider yourself a patriot. Every country in the world wants people like me, and the only reason any country would want you is for your government check. If that stopped, they would not want anything to do with you.

[HotDog666]

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