Havana

[MongerHunger]

1) How long has it taken y'all to receive your e-visa?

I submitted on Monday and still do not have a response other than the one confirming successful submission.

2) Do you snail-mail your money order to the embassy in Wachington to give it to them upon arrival?

Thanks in advance.

KB.

You must be doing something wrong if you didn't receive a electronic QR Code. You will need it at the airport that connects you directly to Cuba.

[DoubleDouble]

Going to Havana in June. I am fluent in Spanish and have been many places. No issues getting around and talking to people. A few questions here.

1. Sounds like hotels are a no go, so a casa particular seems like the only option. I am from US so I have to have all this dialed in before I go since I cannot use plastic. When I rent the airbnb from home, I can use a credit card for that right?

2. I find girls to hang out with early evening. We hang out, get drinks, she spends the night and leaves in the morning. What is an average rate for that and / or top shelf like Cisco mentions?

3. Whats a average rate for a couple of hours, day or night time?

4. Take a girl for food and drinks, what's the chance of her coming back to my place for no additional funds?. Does that happen here?

5. Any recommendations on where to pick up the beer, food, and liquor to stock my AIRBNB. ?

Thank you so much guys, I RTFF but could not find all this info together.

I personally plan to hit this place up at least 4 times a year. Already have my next 3 trips booked. I set a budget of $1,500 max for all my trips. $500-$600 for airfare roundtrip. Nothing over 9 hrs total so that I leave in the morning and in HAV by afternoon. Make sure your Airbnb arranges taxi pickup from airport especially if you don't know how to get to your casa.

Don't cheap out on Airbnb because you get what you pay for. I always spring for the $100 per night or so spots because they come with all the amenities I like ac, fridge, kitchen, WiFi, sometimes even hot water. So I budget $400-$500 for that.

The last is I budget $500 for entertainment and food. I set $200 of that aside to change to pesos (that's like 80,000 pesos these days on the black market) so I can buy food and groceries I want so I can eat out one or two times during my trip, but I bring enough food that I atleast can cook what I like if food is scarce. Also bring some treats / supplies to give to the locals as well (that should validate your 'support of the Cuban people' mission and satiate your morality LOL).

Break down the $300 entertainment budget to $50 per company. Some might say that's too much but again don't cheap out on company. You want to be highly selective about who you spend your time and resources on. Don't bring sand to the beach and remember your the prize so find the type of natural super model beauty that you would pay $200-$500 for a lazy fuck except in Cuba she will fuck and suck you like the king that you are. I keep it at $100 per day for company because I like to split the company up into day company and night company that way I can shoot for 2 pops each time. Basically getting $25 CPN (cost per nut). Then spend the day recovering the sperm count so you can go for the night round, have chica stay the night if you want and pop again in the morning.

That's how I did my last trip and it had me considering crossing off all my other mongering travel spots. The only reason I still consider going to Sosua is because they have the beach close by and the casino. So I always feel like a pirate when I roll through. I try to hit at least 6 supermodel status in Cuba at $50 usd each. Because in America I would be lucky to even find anything even close to that level of talent and they want $200-$800. So after I hit my 6 I basically broke even $1600 which is a total ROI of my expenses.

[KSB1313]

1) How long has it taken y'all to receive your e-visa?

I submitted on Monday and still do not have a response other than the one confirming successful submission.

2) Do you snail-mail your money order to the embassy in Wachington to give it to them upon arrival?

Thanks in advance.

KB.

[HumbleHal]

Heading to Havana in next two weeks. Already booked casa in Old Havana.

Can anybody recommend some nice local place for evening drink or / and cigar?

A place where meeting a nice girls could end up with a success?

The Havana Libre (formerly Havana Hilton) Hotel has a bar / disco club on the top floor, if you speak Spanish you may score there. Otherwise there are chicas outside, along Avenida 23 and Calle L.

[Morales85]

Heading to Havana in next two weeks. Already booked casa in Old Havana.

Can anybody recommend some nice local place for evening drink or / and cigar?

A place where meeting a nice girls could end up with a success?

[Raw Deal]

Thanks to everyone on here, especially CiscoMech for all the advice.

Finally booked my travel and accommodation. May 1st week, staying at a Casa Particular in Vedado. Thought this may work best to straddle bars in the vicinity and those in old Havana. And, the AirBnb host confirmed visitors are OK. 😀.

If anyone around that week, give me a nudge and happy to catchup over a drink or a meal.

The thing is not everyone grew up around hustlers or gangsters. We are a community of different backgrounds all united in the common interest of pussy exploration. I grew up in Jamaica and also live close to Jamaica Ave in NYC. Both places will teach you how to not get hustled. These are some of the things you learn-.

If anyone walks up to you at all to even say Hi, best assume they are trying to get something from you. Secondly, you have to present as a hard target or you will be seen as a mark. That means no smiling, no looking around staring at the buildings like you're lost or sightseeing (ain't shit to really see. All the buildings look like shit and there's nothing for sale that you can't get back home on Amazon shipped to your doorstep). The key is to not look weak because hustlers can spot an easy mark with those signs. You want to walk with a purpose and don't stop to talk to anyone that approaches you. If they try to block you then pick up the pace and go around looking straight ahead. Just because someone talks to you doesn't mean you're obligated to respond. Pretend your wife is at home and she accidentally pocket dialed you and you can hear her in the background getting piped by the plumber and you're trying to get home to burn the bodies.

Cheers mate. You have helped me close the deal.

I was wondering whether to make a trip to Panama again as the relative travel distance-price-quality-safety equation was pretty high. I will now make a stop in Havana.

[CiscoMech]

The DR is over rated. It's not even on my radar anymore. Been there, done that. Been to 6 different cities in the DR on multiple occasions. I will leave it for the hip-hop ghetto types.

DR was my first exposure to the lifestyle and I probably still recommend them for a first time monger. It's lost its appeal to me after I noticed the taxi drivers, girls, and locals all came together and basically said let's fuck the gringo together. It's no longer about ensuring the tourist has a good experience but more about let's all squeeze as much money out of the tourist as we can while providing minimal value.

This last trip as usual it was easy to get from the airport TO Sosúa, but when it came time to go back from sosua to the airport my uber got surrounded by a gang of taxi drivers and had to pull out a taser on them. This is after the taxi drivers tried to quote me $50 USD for the 10 minute drive to the airport so I said fuck it I'm using uber. I have no issues in Santiago or Santa Domingo only sosua. I am aware the taxi drivers are basically a union, but I refuse to be extorted. I rather walk the hour to the airport than give a mf $50 out of principle. Then the taxis wonder why they are sitting around all day waiting for rides.

[MongerHunger]

I just came back from my 6th and final trip to DR.

The DR is over rated. It's not even on my radar anymore. Been there, done that. Been to 6 different cities in the DR on multiple occasions. I will leave it for the hip-hop ghetto types.

[CiscoMech]

FWIW I think it's incredible that you responded to your own post from 10 years ago. There's something poetic about that. It's a sign of the March of time. That 10 years can and does pass in the blink of an eye. So fast that you can remember writing this post and responding to it.

It also reminds me why we engage in this kind of travel. Life is short. Your legs and dick won't always work. Your libido and zest for life and love are a gift. You can't squander them. When they're gone they're gone. Nobody on their deathbed said I wish I'd traveled less, had less sex, seen and experienced less beauty. Only the converse is true.

Good on you.

Truer words! Virility is a depreciating asset. We spend our lives pursuing the accumulation of things when experience is really the only true thing of value. Cuba is my current hyper-fixation, but I just came back from my 6th and final trip to DR. I forgot who said it but the world is like a book and those who haven't traveled have only seems 1 page.

[AmericanPi]

My fellow explorers, where the hell has the past 10 years gone!

I spent 10 days in Havana almost 10 years ago (in August 2015) and if you read my trip report above (found on page #259, written September 2015 on my return from Cuba) I ask the question "So would I recommend Cuba? Will I return?

Well truth be told I have never been back to Cuba but have been busy just about everywhere else in the world with a decade of time in Medellin, Colombia where I live full time.

Is my friend Americano573 still out there? He was so kind to be my wing man and would love to catch up with him again.

So my question is how is the P4 P scene in Havana now?.

FWIW I think it's incredible that you responded to your own post from 10 years ago. There's something poetic about that. It's a sign of the March of time. That 10 years can and does pass in the blink of an eye. So fast that you can remember writing this post and responding to it.

It also reminds me why we engage in this kind of travel. Life is short. Your legs and dick won't always work. Your libido and zest for life and love are a gift. You can't squander them. When they're gone they're gone. Nobody on their deathbed said I wish I'd traveled less, had less sex, seen and experienced less beauty. Only the converse is true.

Good on you.

[The Tall Man]

Trip report 10 days in Havana August 2015.

Preface Throughout my 10 days in and around Havana I could not help but wonder how different my experience and perhaps disappointment would have been because of the changes in Cuba and P4 P challenges if I had chosen to travel to Cuba instead of Brazil back in 2000 and 2001. But at a simple "flip of a coin" decision and Brazil and European destinations won out and I enjoyed my multiple trips to San Paulo and Rio back in the day.

I do know for an absolute certainty that if I did not have my fellow veteran travel partner Americano573, whom was so gracious to take me under his wing, if not for him my experience in Cuba would have been completely different, so I owe a big debt of gratitude to Americano573. His command of Spanish (this cannot be overstated in its importance in Cuba) his story's & experiences from his 14 plus years of travel throughout all of Cuba, the relationships that he has formed, the way he has adapted to the changes and the manner in which he has mastered his "game" is not only fascinating to watch first hand in action but best of all he unselfishly shares this information (women too) with a Cuban travel newbie as myself. There are others who have sent me suggestions via PM on this board who I wish to thank.

Much has already been written about Havana regards the girls, the police, the bars, the SW scene, the beaches, the pros, the pimps, the hassles, the hustle, the food, the casa particulars, the scams, the heat as yes August 2015 was very hot, and know that it is all spot on so not much to add to this that has not already been discussed in detail.

By design, this being my first trip to Cuba, I decided to stay in the Vedado area for the whole stay. We were roomies together in the same casa which was a god send. This proved very useful as its location is good central spot. You can very quickly spend a sizable amount of money on all the taxi fares for you and carting around your girls. The casa accommodations are relatively reasonable at 25 CUC a day but you can easily spend 20 to 60 CUC a day when you want to go and play.

The best advice I can give others is to learn some Spanish and if not you, like myself, will be a distant last place when it comes to the P4 P scene and your enjoyment factor. Fortunately my partner Americano573 speaks great Spanish and he took concern for me for the best possible enjoyment that I had with the girls.

The second best advice is do not trust anyone in Cuba as they ALL are out to get something from you. There are scams in every crevice of Havana's P4 P scene especially when it comes to taxi and restaurant meals and girls. I have been in many places in the world and I saw first hand how well they play the scam games. I saw first hand all the BS that goes on at the music / dance clubs. After one visit I will never step foot in these places ever again. The girl prices are absurd and frankly beyond ruin.

In my stay I enjoyed the company of about 5 girls a with a few hand picked by my friend. These were from other areas of Cuba so they were low volume provincial girls. I would argue that the vast majority of girls from Havana are spoiled and ruined because of the way some guys throw money at them. So yes IMHO you must get out of Havana to have any real enjoyment other than just a quick short term experience.

So would I recommend Cuba? Will I return? I could only recommend outside Havana and only if you speak some Spanish and are clever and have some "game" to you. This is not a Tijuana experience where you walk into Hong Kong bar and see a hundred very willing and doable Latin girls for $60-$80 no you have to work at your Cuban experience. I would only return if I would spend my time outside of Havana and if I spoke Spanish or had a great wingman as I did.

In summary I am glad I had the experience and adventure of seeing a new place. Cuba is a place that you must see at least once in your life if not for the P4 P scene but also for the country and friendly people. Not once did I feel threatened, hassled yes but in danger no! BTW I was never hassled like we get hassled in Tijuana at the bars, at most one tenth of what we endure in Tijuana.

Without the consent of my friend Americano573 I will not disclose his program but I can say what a program it is, it has taken him years to perfect and he reaps the rewards each day of his time in Cuba. It actually is incredible how much fun and different girls he has all throughout the island. The difference is that he puts in a great deal of effort and I saw first hand the benefits and even enjoyed a few side benefits myself. Thanks again my brother from another mother.

Know that these are my observations and experiences and yours may be different. That is OK. There are many details left out of this report but suffice to say that these are highlights only meant to provide information to others interested in visiting Cuba.

The Tall Man.

My fellow explorers, where the hell has the past 10 years gone!

I spent 10 days in Havana almost 10 years ago (in August 2015) and if you read my trip report above (found on page #259, written September 2015 on my return from Cuba) I ask the question "So would I recommend Cuba? Will I return?

Well truth be told I have never been back to Cuba but have been busy just about everywhere else in the world with a decade of time in Medellin, Colombia where I live full time.

Is my friend Americano573 still out there? He was so kind to be my wing man and would love to catch up with him again.

So my question is how is the P4 P scene in Havana now?

Quality of chicas? Service and cost?

And also for a US Citizen is entering into Cuba and different than it was in 2015?

Yes I am considering a visit.

Thank you all and Godspeed!

The Tall Man.

[Nomars777]

This is exceedingly good information. Obviously someone who has done this before and knows what he's doing.

Budget and plan are right on target, a great way to operate, in my opinion.

Noobs, please take note.

I personally plan to hit this place up at least 4 times a year. Already have my next 3 trips booked. I set a budget of $1,500 max for all my trips. $500-$600 for airfare roundtrip. Nothing over 9 hrs total so that I leave in the morning and in HAV by afternoon. Make sure your Airbnb arranges taxi pickup from airport especially if you don't know how to get to your casa.

Don't cheap out on Airbnb because you get what you pay for. I always spring for the $100 per night or so spots because they come with all the amenities I like ac, fridge, kitchen, WiFi, sometimes even hot water. So I budget $400-$500 for that.

The last is I budget $500 for entertainment and food. I set $200 of that aside to change to pesos (that's like 80,000 pesos these days on the black market) so I can buy food and groceries I want so I can eat out one or two times during my trip, but I bring enough food that I atleast can cook what I like if food is scarce. Also bring some treats / supplies to give to the locals as well (that should validate your 'support of the Cuban people' mission and satiate your morality LOL)..

[Raw Deal]

Hahaha 😆 😂.

....... hear her in the background getting piped by the plumber and you're trying to get home to burn the bodies.

[CiscoMech]

There you go! One of the BEST post EVER!

The thing is not everyone grew up around hustlers or gangsters. We are a community of different backgrounds all united in the common interest of pussy exploration. I grew up in Jamaica and also live close to Jamaica Ave in NYC. Both places will teach you how to not get hustled. These are some of the things you learn-.

If anyone walks up to you at all to even say Hi, best assume they are trying to get something from you. Secondly, you have to present as a hard target or you will be seen as a mark. That means no smiling, no looking around staring at the buildings like you're lost or sightseeing (ain't shit to really see. All the buildings look like shit and there's nothing for sale that you can't get back home on Amazon shipped to your doorstep). The key is to not look weak because hustlers can spot an easy mark with those signs. You want to walk with a purpose and don't stop to talk to anyone that approaches you. If they try to block you then pick up the pace and go around looking straight ahead. Just because someone talks to you doesn't mean you're obligated to respond. Pretend your wife is at home and she accidentally pocket dialed you and you can hear her in the background getting piped by the plumber and you're trying to get home to burn the bodies.

[Chris H]

Some people don't know how to operate in Cuba. Any seasoned Vet should know how to move even on a global scale. I guess for some people, intimidation is a Mother Fucker!

There you go! One of the BEST post EVER!