Angeles City

[Old And Ugly]

Barhop Saturday 3. 5. 2025.

As has been reported in my bar reports over the last few months Angeles red street is quiet, very quiet, very few western tourists, if any at all, Korean punter numbers well down too, maybe due to the recent murder of a Korean tourist in broad daylight, never seen it this quiet in nearly 30 years of working and living very near to Angeles, maybe they should have renamed red street to dead street in all honesty.

Visited 12 odd bars, some western bars and some Korean bars, many bars with no customers at all, many bars with very few girls, what girls are on stage seem very distant, no smiles, no dancing and very little eye contact in almost all bars, exception xs bar, still some shows going on here all be it with much lower numbers of girls, no black tape girls spotted where normally there are many, some girls ok looking, some girls not, at least the girls at Xs bar were some what welcoming and smiling, normally standing room only with Koreans here, tonight choice of seats available.

Blame the constant bar price hikes for girls, expensive lady drinks, blame the severe lack of passable looking slim girls (many unfuckable IMHO) in most bars, the short time only mentality of the few better looking girls that will actually barfine, the drinks only girls that promise a good time to get drinks only to give excuses not to leave their bar when asked, the very high commissions paid on lady drinks making it more profitable and easier for many girls stay in the bar, the strictly Korean only girls, the very high hotel prices compared to nearby destinations for the severe lack of visitors to Angeles, maybe its all of these things together but one thing is for sure would be visitors have voted with their feet to just not visit Angeles at all in all honesty.

Lets hope the powers that be (bar owners, bar girls, hotels, restaurants) start to see sence and address Angeles many problems, time will tell.

If all this is in fact a large money laundering operation, then there is no light at the end of the tunnel.

[NapaSlapper]

Barhop Saturday 3. 5. 2025.

As has been reported in my bar reports over the last few months Angeles red street is quiet, very quiet, very few western tourists, if any at all, Korean punter numbers well down too, maybe due to the recent murder of a Korean tourist in broad daylight, never seen it this quiet in nearly 30 years of working and living very near to Angeles, maybe they should have renamed red street to dead street in all honesty.

Visited 12 odd bars, some western bars and some Korean bars, many bars with no customers at all, many bars with very few girls, what girls are on stage seem very distant, no smiles, no dancing and very little eye contact in almost all bars, exception xs bar, still some shows going on here all be it with much lower numbers of girls, no black tape girls spotted where normally there are many, some girls ok looking, some girls not, at least the girls at Xs bar were some what welcoming and smiling, normally standing room only with Koreans here, tonight choice of seats available.

Blame the constant bar price hikes for girls, expensive lady drinks, blame the severe lack of passable looking slim girls (many unfuckable IMHO) in most bars, the short time only mentality of the few better looking girls that will actually barfine, the drinks only girls that promise a good time to get drinks only to give excuses not to leave their bar when asked, the very high commissions paid on lady drinks making it more profitable and easier for many girls stay in the bar, the strictly Korean only girls, the very high hotel prices compared to nearby destinations for the severe lack of visitors to Angeles, maybe its all of these things together but one thing is for sure would be visitors have voted with their feet to just not visit Angeles at all in all honesty.

Lets hope the powers that be (bar owners, bar girls, hotels, restaurants) start to see sence and address Angeles many problems, time will tell.

[Exoticspirit]

Whats been happening in the bars of red street over the last few weeks and a few thoughts.

Well its probably best to start off with a south Korean was shot dead in broad daylight by motorbike riding bag snatchers, heard from 1st hand account that the korean did not resist giving up his bag but got shot dead anyway.

Hear of many reports on a weekly basis of tourists / expats getting their phones, bags, money, belongings snatched by motorbike riding thieves, stay safe out there guys and hide your valuables or don't take them outside at all.

Bars, well there are western oriented bars and korean oriented bars on red street, the western bars are a small amount compared to the korean bars.

Western bars tend to be smaller bars, some of the favourite and well known ones are, lollipop bar, geckos, bar, masquarade bar, champagne bar, local punter beers tend to range from 100 peso to 140 peso normally, lady drinks 300 peso to 350 peso (normally small juice) barfines run 4000 peso to 5,000 peso short time according to management / owners.

Western bars mainly have between 2 and 12 odd bar girls, girls here tend to be more of the plumper, older, plain type (and that's being kind) did not buy any lady drinks on several quick visits to these bars at all due to no girls seen of our type.

Korean bars, bars much bigger, better decor, ambience, many more girls in general working in the korean bars, smaller korean bars 15 to 20 girls, larger show bars 25 to 50 girls, local beers 100 peso to 200 peso, lady drinks 350 peso to 400+ peso, barfines mainly 6,000+ peso short time.

Many of the better looking, slimmer, younger girls in the Korean bars are show girls only, these girls are employed to put on professional dance routines in beautiful costumes and do not barfine with anyone, many girls are drinks only girls, many girls are strictly korean only girls, some of the better lookers are cherry girls (virgins) some girls (very few) in the smaller korean non show bars will drink and barfine with westerners but only the girls the koreans have rejected will accept westerners in truth, it is what it is comes to mind.

In summing up, koreans outnumber westerners by huge amounts, koreans are extremely popular amongst the girls that will actually barfine, stories of westerners outfoxing koreans on their own patch and getting with the cuties in front of the koreans is just that stories IMHO.

The town in generally remains very quiet indeed for western tourist, even the korean numbers have dipped a touch after the news of the koreans murder on the streets hit the asian / world news but still by far the dominant race by a long long way as far as the girls, then very few lookers around in any bars.

Thanks for the report. If the western bars are low potential around red st, I imagine the perimeter bars would be even worse.

[Goferring]

Normally find the type of girls that have no cash are the type that find it hard to attract such.

My comment was very much tongue in cheek. However, LNY, Ramadan, Holy Week etc can all be worked to a monger's advantage.

While you're right, the flip side is that those who make the most money also spend it the fastest.

Long term saving strategies aren't exactly hookers' strong suit anywhere.

G.

[NapaSlapper]

You mean that girls will be arriving in Mindanao short on cash? That's so unfortunate..

Normally find the type of girls that have no cash are the type that find it hard to attract such.

As we all know even an average looking, young pinay putting her profile up on any online dating / meeting site will have every simpleton the world over sending large sums of money on a very regular basis to said girls mostly without ever meeting in person.

Morale of the story, some girls have the means to earn well and have plenty of peso at all times, some girls not so much so.

[NapaSlapper]

Whats been happening in the bars of red street over the last few weeks and a few thoughts.

Well its probably best to start off with a south Korean was shot dead in broad daylight by motorbike riding bag snatchers, heard from 1st hand account that the korean did not resist giving up his bag but got shot dead anyway.

Hear of many reports on a weekly basis of tourists / expats getting their phones, bags, money, belongings snatched by motorbike riding thieves, stay safe out there guys and hide your valuables or don't take them outside at all.

Bars, well there are western oriented bars and korean oriented bars on red street, the western bars are a small amount compared to the korean bars.

Western bars tend to be smaller bars, some of the favourite and well known ones are, lollipop bar, geckos, bar, masquarade bar, champagne bar, local punter beers tend to range from 100 peso to 140 peso normally, lady drinks 300 peso to 350 peso (normally small juice) barfines run 4000 peso to 5,000 peso short time according to management / owners.

Western bars mainly have between 2 and 12 odd bar girls, girls here tend to be more of the plumper, older, plain type (and that's being kind) did not buy any lady drinks on several quick visits to these bars at all due to no girls seen of our type.

Korean bars, bars much bigger, better decor, ambience, many more girls in general working in the korean bars, smaller korean bars 15 to 20 girls, larger show bars 25 to 50 girls, local beers 100 peso to 200 peso, lady drinks 350 peso to 400+ peso, barfines mainly 6,000+ peso short time.

Many of the better looking, slimmer, younger girls in the Korean bars are show girls only, these girls are employed to put on professional dance routines in beautiful costumes and do not barfine with anyone, many girls are drinks only girls, many girls are strictly korean only girls, some of the better lookers are cherry girls (virgins) some girls (very few) in the smaller korean non show bars will drink and barfine with westerners but only the girls the koreans have rejected will accept westerners in truth, it is what it is comes to mind.

In summing up, koreans outnumber westerners by huge amounts, koreans are extremely popular amongst the girls that will actually barfine, stories of westerners outfoxing koreans on their own patch and getting with the cuties in front of the koreans is just that stories IMHO.

The town in generally remains very quiet indeed for western tourist, even the korean numbers have dipped a touch after the news of the koreans murder on the streets hit the asian / world news but still by far the dominant race by a long long way as far as the girls, then very few lookers around in any bars.

[Goferring]

Heads up fellas.

Girls are texting me the past 2 days to meet up. Main reason is rent is coming due in a few days. FYI, some girls will be headed back to the provinces to vote on May 12th. Probably in need of ticket money!

You mean that girls will be arriving in Mindanao short on cash? That's so unfortunate. 😜.

G.

[Dg8787]

Heads up fellas.

Girls are texting me the past 2 days to meet up. Main reason is rent is coming due in a few days. FYI, some girls will be headed back to the provinces to vote on May 12th. Probably in need of ticket money!

[Dg8787]

Thanks. So if we see a group of girls that look like locals going into a club, can we assume that it's not a girly bar?

One can assume a Club is not a girly bar. A girly bar is not a club.

[Old And Ugly]

Thanks. So if we see a group of girls that look like locals going into a club, can we assume that it's not a girly bar?

They are all locals, not too many filipino visitors coming to Angeles for fun. Most likely freelancers, or bar girls after the shift is over.

[Exoticspirit]

Yes, mostly correct. Although up until probably early 50's if you are fit and properly dressed, you can still pull hot civilians from the nightclubs. MegaDance, Hammer, and Aqua being the main ones. I have had a lot of fun at these places but I never plan on pulling a girl, although it does happen. If you stay for a few weeks it can be a fun break, and there are a LOT of stunners, so sometimes it's worth it just to watch the girls. Split a table with some buddies and get a bunch of drinks and invite girls to join. If you have limited time and want to maximize getting laid, stick to the girlie bars.

Thanks. So if we see a group of girls that look like locals going into a club, can we assume that it's not a girly bar?

[FuriousGeorge]

Yes, mostly correct. Although up until probably early 50's if you are fit and properly dressed, you can still pull hot civilians from the nightclubs. MegaDance, Hammer, and Aqua being the main ones. I have had a lot of fun at these places but I never plan on pulling a girl, although it does happen. If you stay for a few weeks it can be a fun break, and there are a LOT of stunners, so sometimes it's worth it just to watch the girls. Split a table with some buddies and get a bunch of drinks and invite girls to join. If you have limited time and want to maximize getting laid, stick to the girlie bars.

I assume there are two major types of bars in AC with the first being the girly bars like Insomnia where the majority of the girls inside will be dressed similar and therefore the ones available for takeout at barfine rates. The second would be more or less nightclubs where there might be lots of local groups of 'non-working' girls in different street or night out to party clothes dancing and drinking together. I think these are more like public bars and although some of these local girls might be available for take out, they would be freelancers not working under that nightclub's rules.

The nightclub type of bars would therefore be the hotspots to party for young folks locals and tourists alike. For older guys like me and my buddy who are both in our 60's, I'm thinking that it's the girly bars that would be the primary spots for us and the nightclub type of bars would be a complete waste of time (and probably too darn loud anyway) for us. Our main objective coming to AC is to monger rather than spend time trying to smooze any young non-working locals.

Thoughts on this?

[Mr Enternational]

The nightclub type of bars would therefore be the hotspots to party for young folks locals and tourists alike. For older guys like me and my buddy who are both in our 60's, I'm thinking that it's the girly bars that would be the primary spots for us and the nightclub type of bars would be a complete waste of time (and probably too darn loud anyway) for us. Our main objective coming to AC is to monger rather than spend time trying to smooze any young non-working locals.

Thoughts on this?

You are not smoozing anyone. There ain't many local chicks who can go throw away money partying on a random night. You will find as you said that the girls in the nightclubs are hookers too. And they will run you way less money than paying barfines. The drawback is the time. You have to keep later hours for the clubs. But you can give those chicks 2000 pesos for all night versus whatever bar fines are that have to be split between the girl and the bar. So if you are paying 4000 barfine with the girl only getting 2000, you can find a freelancer for 2000 where you do not have to bother paying a share to a bar. I have always been a freelancer guy and have done very little barfining.

[Exoticspirit]

I assume there are two major types of bars in AC with the first being the girly bars like Insomnia where the majority of the girls inside will be dressed similar and therefore the ones available for takeout at barfine rates. The second would be more or less nightclubs where there might be lots of local groups of 'non-working' girls in different street or night out to party clothes dancing and drinking together. I think these are more like public bars and although some of these local girls might be available for take out, they would be freelancers not working under that nightclub's rules.

The nightclub type of bars would therefore be the hotspots to party for young folks locals and tourists alike. For older guys like me and my buddy who are both in our 60's, I'm thinking that it's the girly bars that would be the primary spots for us and the nightclub type of bars would be a complete waste of time (and probably too darn loud anyway) for us. Our main objective coming to AC is to monger rather than spend time trying to smooze any young non-working locals.

Thoughts on this?

[Expat American]

That's good, probably higher quality too, but by living in Singapore more likely you're making big money, and can afford to spend it there. Me on the other hand I'm not making any anywhere, just spending it, so I stay away from expensive places as much as possible, for example I'm going to Singapore only if flying some place from there, or going on a cruise that starts there, or maybe meeting some friends. I do travel a lot, but mostly to relatively cheap destinations. I like it in the PH, but I'm also maybe forced by circumstances to hang around here mostly, anyway I'm trying to make the best out of it.

Living somewhere is a totally different equation. You have so many better options than an AC bar girl and sounds you have a good GF situation as well. So enjoy!