Lisbon

[Jizzme]

Since I did not really get a rec, I ended up seeing jully carioca.

https://portalprivado.com/pt/acompan...-jully-carioca

Her rates were 150 euro / HR 80/ hhr. I'm not sure why I went with the hour but I only got about 30 min of time. Apparently, business is slow for her because she seemed to have an open schedule.

Looks: photos are real, but her features were a bit darker. She is young, tall, and in good shape, though she has a large snake tattoo on one of her butt cheeks. Her face has some small pimple craters.

After the initial Hello, kiss on cheek, she was distant, moody, uncommunicative, rushed, and quiet. She seemed annoyed that I asked for water. She offered a shower which I took. She asked for cash upfront, though I stupidly opted for the HR. After shower, she offered a massage which was pretty terrible and useless. Then the flip. She stripped off, applied cover, oral, and then got on top and started grinding and riding me. No kissing allowed and she used excuse that the beard was scratching her. Mind you she has no English skills even though she is Brazilian.

Anyways, she seemed angry I came early and she cleaned me up. I asked to use restroom and I think she thought I asked for shower but I wanted to pee. She opened the door and some other dude was showering which brought a mutual chuckle and I was able to use the half bath nearby. Then a goodbye kiss and hug and her telling me she liked me which is full of crap.

Anyways, she has a hot bod but the service wasnt great and I wouldn't recommend. Definitely do not opt for an hour. I think I would have enjoyed a MILF more.

[PER23]

I wish you a fast recovery mate.

There's another "high rated" incall escort that you guys need to be careful due the amount of "scum clients" she gets, according to the forum policy I can't say much more but if you guys know some about the Lisbon situation you can get what I'm talking about.

I won't say the name but if you check my previews posts there's a hint.

If a escort prefers money over selfcare, dignity and health that's a big redflag and a no for me.

I always think about these things in terms of generalised risk, rather than a specific escort although sometimes the red flags are warranted.

Generally, sex with escorts is likely to be safer as protection is more likely to be used and both parties are more likely to get tested on a regular basis.

In around 400 encounters over nearly 20 years, I've caught an STD (Gonorrhea) twice. It was either from unprotected oral or a broken / faulty condom, which can never be ruled out. Overall, the risk I've faced is less than 1% although there are of course a number of STDs that cannot be prevented by condom use, so every encounter is rolling the dice.

If you have sex with a variety of women, eventually you're going to catch something. All you can do is minimise risk and exposure, which comes down to habits and where you choose to put your dick, which has as much to do with which city and country you're doing this in.

Portugal has higher rates of reported STD transmissions than the rest of Western Europe (around 14 k per 100 k tests, according to https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...tes-by-country). Tourist season is likely to amplify that risk, as well as seeing ladies in Lisbon and Porto which are the busiest areas for escorts.

[FlexMind]

Apologies for the downbeat public announcement, but I tested positive for gonorrhea yesterday after developing symptoms over the weekend. I have already received a course of antibiotics today and will abstain from any sexual contact for at least one week.

As I have only slept with EP escorts in the last two months, I assume that I got this from one of them. In all cases, unprotected oral sex was performed both ways.

(edit - names of escorts removed to protect their privacy)

If you saw any EP ladies recently, please consider getting tested for peace of mind and if you are travelling to Lisbon intending to see an EP escort, then I would exercise caution and consider protected oral. Many of these girls work together in duos and group bookings even though it's not advertised on the site. I've noticed recently that many ladies are working while on their periods which can increase chances of infection as it's harder to maintain proper hygiene. It's also tourist season here.

I have contacted all of the ladies I've seen in the past 4 weeks to let them know.

This is not intended to slander anyone. Shit happens.

I wish you a fast recovery mate.

There's another "high rated" incall escort that you guys need to be careful due the amount of "scum clients" she gets, according to the forum policy I can't say much more but if you guys know some about the Lisbon situation you can get what I'm talking about.

I won't say the name but if you check my previews posts there's a hint.

If a escort prefers money over selfcare, dignity and health that's a big redflag and a no for me.

[PER23]

Apologies for the downbeat public announcement, but I tested positive for gonorrhea yesterday after developing symptoms over the weekend. I have already received a course of antibiotics today and will abstain from any sexual contact for at least one week.

As I have only slept with EP escorts in the last two months, I assume that I got this from one of them. In all cases, unprotected oral sex was performed both ways.

(edit - names of escorts removed to protect their privacy)

If you saw any EP ladies recently, please consider getting tested for peace of mind and if you are travelling to Lisbon intending to see an EP escort, then I would exercise caution and consider protected oral. Many of these girls work together in duos and group bookings even though it's not advertised on the site. I've noticed recently that many ladies are working while on their periods which can increase chances of infection as it's harder to maintain proper hygiene. It's also tourist season here.

I have contacted all of the ladies I've seen in the past 4 weeks to let them know.

This is not intended to slander anyone. Shit happens.

[Akibono]

Definately the older women is better assuming they are not burned out. Older women think longer term and knows how to manage a relationship. They are likely to respect appointments. They also know how to screen guys. Thus, they are more relaxed and have less to worry about. All this translates into a greater level of intimacy. I find a pretty good percentage of girls that last long enough to be mature (not old) may actually enjoy the sexual encounter as long as the guy is respectful. The older girls may not have perfect looks, but if they keep up their appearances they are amazing. It is not uncommon for the younger girls to over do it, have mental issues, or drug problems. This can ruin their looks very quickly while the smarter girls think long term.

[Mongerer88]

Do you mean like Pattaya is the best? Just want to compare my thoughts, actually I think it is.

I have been to Pattaya. It was amusing. Good to do it once, but I wouldn't care to do it again. I liked Bangkok better, but not as well as I like Lisbon.

Portugal is a first-world country, that is not driving distance from second-world countries as one of these maps indicates, calling the second-world countries "peasant states".

https://www.nationsonline.org/onewor..._countries.htm

https://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/first_world.htm

Thailand and Brazil, certainly well-liked by many Punters, are third world countries. Although Germany is a first world country, it has chosen to allow drive-in immigrants from second world counties to populate its sex work scene, generally in FKKs and other clubs.

To answer your question, no there is not a significant streetwalker scene nor are there inexpensive clubs populated by Romanians. The clubs are not popular and are more expensive than seeing an escort. The clubs are supper-type clubs. You take the lady back to your hotel, as there are not beds or nearby "love motels".

Women are equals in Portugal, as is the case in all first world countries. Prostitution is legal in Portugal. The women are businesspeople who schedule their sessions by appointment and have their own incall (often shared with other providers), or they travel to your hotel where they are allowed to come up to your room without being harassed.

Portugal is an example of how well commercial sex work can be performed in the first world. Immigrants fly in, which keeps the lowest denominator out due to the cost of flying being a barrier to entry. The Brazilian ladies are either getting an education and / or working other jobs in addition to sex work. The same is true for most native Portuguese sex workers.

The Portuguese don't want their country to be like Pattaya, with good reason. Really the same is true with respect to Brazil and its favellas. And I suspect the same with respect to Germany and its Eastern European transient sex workers.

The contributors to this forum tell you the best ladies to see, what they do, and how much they charge. Portugal has a tremendous scene that it keeps out of the public eye. It is affordable by first world standards with excellent GFE services. It doesn't want or need streetwalkers or roadside clubs with survival sex worker transients. Women doing sex work deserve better than that as well.

[Gbs123]

Been a month back from Pattaya, it really is an adults disney land. Nothing like it in the world!

Do you mean like Pattaya is the best? Just want to compare my thoughts, actually I think it is.

[Gbs123]

Any street walkers around here or maybe in clubs?

[Mongerer88]

I'll be traveling to Lisbon soon, and only have one night there. I've narrowed down my search to Vivianne Miller & Rebeca Diniz. Who should I go with?

It is very difficult to compare the two ladies with the overall best reviews in the city to each other.

You can't go wrong with either of them.

We know nothing about you, which makes it even more difficult.

Rebeca Diniz is an independent who you can schedule in advance with. That might decide things right there.

Viviane Miller's availability will not be know for an absolute certainty until the day before the appointment, or possibly even the day of.

Rebeca is in her early 30's and at the top of her game sexually. She plays all three holes, does CIM, and is fluent in an English.

If you think the "hottest girl in class" chick in her early 20's is much more preferable than a lady in her early 30's, then go with Viviane. She has more restrictions than Rebeca. No anal sex or even anal play. If you vaginally finger her in a way she doesn't like, she will say no, so perhaps the best technique with her based on reports is to go down on her a lot and ask her to guide you on fingering. Even though her profile says CIM, she seems to prefer BBBJ with a last minute hand job to make you cum (if you intended to climax via oral). Viviane is not quite as English-fluent as Rebeca. Women who grow up in Brazil never learn much English, but Viviane is trying hard to do so.

Both are fetish-friendly, with Rebeca being a little bit more so. But they are both open-minded and fun.

As I said, you can't go wrong with either of them. It largely depends on your fantasies. On pure looks, I would give Viviane a 10 and Rebeca a 9, being biased toward youth on looks. On performance, I would give Rebeca a 10 and Viviane a 9. So it is a tie as far as I am concerned. I highly recommend them both.

[Austin28]

I'll be traveling to Lisbon soon, and only have one night there. I've narrowed down my search to Vivianne Miller & Rebeca Diniz. Who should I go with?

Check with them on their working hours and their availability during your visit. Becky doesn't work late evenings.

You cannot go wrong with either but if you have a comfortable hotel room then I would recommend Viviane for outcall.

[PER23]

I'll be traveling to Lisbon soon, and only have one night there. I've narrowed down my search to Vivianne Miller & Rebeca Diniz. Who should I go with?

Friend, if you're only here for one night then I suggest you pass on the escorts and enjoy walking around this incredible city.

Go to Sala de Corte or Yakuza and spend that money on an amazing dinner for one.

[HonestlyAverag]

I'll be traveling to Lisbon soon, and only have one night there. I've narrowed down my search to Vivianne Miller & Rebeca Diniz. Who should I go with?

[BaltiX]

I disagree that younger Gen Z girls are more likely to be burned out earlier than older generations based on experience and observation. I think it has always been that way. Escorting or any kind of sex work is not for everyone. And I have to say that it's a good thing that Gen Z girls in Portugal (and maybe most of Europe) are more sexually active. It seems to be the opposite in the US and UK.

[PER23]

I think the people who complain are pretty constant throughout the forums.

Prices increased after Covid throughout the world, and more effort is required now to find the highest quality sex workers.

The lowest prices forever were when a large number of ladies, often immigrants, worked in a fixed-location offering incall.

There are tremendous economic efficiencies available when that happens. The bigger the better. There aren't many tiny little WalMarts and few tiny German FKKs.

During Covid, there were simply "attacks" on anyplace or any thing involving a bunch of people in one place, whether it was a Church or a *****house. And there were fewer immigrants going from low income countries to higher income countries. Because no one could fucking travel without a note from your mother saying Sally Isn't Sick.

Granted it didn't affect Portugal quite as much as other countries, but the trend toward smaller incalls and ladies working independently picked up steam and stuck. It even worked during Covid. They didn't enforce it much, but LOS Angeles announced that you weren't supposed to travel other than for essentials, which included grocery shopping. Many high-end LOS Angeles escorts said on Twitter that they packed a grocery bag in their car on the way to outcall appointments. If asked, they shopped for their favorite uncle and they were going to cook for him after delivering the food, since he doesn't know how. Presumably it took her about an hour to do that cooking.

Many ladies presumably learned to enjoy working independently or with a few close girl friends. We have seen a trend away from the largest and least expensive incall options in North America and Europe over time. That started before Covid due to technology, but I think Covid accelerated it. It seems that ladies like it better. Which is good.

It means higher prices and greater need to use technology. I simply have little patience for the old guys who have complained about this trend for years. Learn to use your smartphone, and for USA Guys, including expats, FDR would turn over in his grave if he knew retirees would complain about their social security check not covering commercial sex transactions. I suspect the same is true for old European politicians who supported government pensions. If you are young enough to fuck, you are young enough to work. So earn enough money to pay market escort rates.

It's a lifestyle cost area, like self care and food. Dating or being a sugar daddy is way more expensive than paying an hourly fee, especially as I have no desire to be around a woman more than a few hours per week as my time is better spent on other pursuits at this point. Not going to complain about prices ever. Some women aren't worth what they charge but I can't knock them for trying. Some man is always willing to pay that much for any level of service.

On the flip side, would you really want to indulge in things that every man can afford? Desirability, perceived value and market value all correlate. A lot of men aren't productive enough in their lives and deserve to be priced out of the sexual market. Good motivation for them to self improve. Nothing, from casual normie dating to marriage to seeing sex workers is free.

[Mongerer88]

For me I prefer girls who are in their 20's and 30's. Changing the subject some forumers here complained that the Portuguese sex scene has declined in years since COVID. Did things actually declined or it's a perception of decay based on nostalgia and bad experiences? Keep in mind that COVID badly damaged the sex scene in number of countries, and now recovering or close to generally speaking. Some popular girls have retired, but new girls who are young and have good services are still coming despite some fears that younger girls aren't escorting anymore. For me the sex scene would be better if there were more Portuguese girls working, but Portugal is not the only country with that problem.

I think the people who complain are pretty constant throughout the forums.

Prices increased after Covid throughout the world, and more effort is required now to find the highest quality sex workers.

The lowest prices forever were when a large number of ladies, often immigrants, worked in a fixed-location offering incall.

There are tremendous economic efficiencies available when that happens. The bigger the better. There aren't many tiny little WalMarts and few tiny German FKKs.

During Covid, there were simply "attacks" on anyplace or any thing involving a bunch of people in one place, whether it was a Church or a *****house. And there were fewer immigrants going from low income countries to higher income countries. Because no one could fucking travel without a note from your mother saying Sally Isn't Sick.

Granted it didn't affect Portugal quite as much as other countries, but the trend toward smaller incalls and ladies working independently picked up steam and stuck. It even worked during Covid. They didn't enforce it much, but LOS Angeles announced that you weren't supposed to travel other than for essentials, which included grocery shopping. Many high-end LOS Angeles escorts said on Twitter that they packed a grocery bag in their car on the way to outcall appointments. If asked, they shopped for their favorite uncle and they were going to cook for him after delivering the food, since he doesn't know how. Presumably it took her about an hour to do that cooking.

Many ladies presumably learned to enjoy working independently or with a few close girl friends. We have seen a trend away from the largest and least expensive incall options in North America and Europe over time. That started before Covid due to technology, but I think Covid accelerated it. It seems that ladies like it better. Which is good.

It means higher prices and greater need to use technology. I simply have little patience for the old guys who have complained about this trend for years. Learn to use your smartphone, and for USA Guys, including expats, FDR would turn over in his grave if he knew retirees would complain about their social security check not covering commercial sex transactions. I suspect the same is true for old European politicians who supported government pensions. If you are young enough to fuck, you are young enough to work. So earn enough money to pay market escort rates.