American Politics

[MarquisdeSade1]

QUOTE=Spidy;3002339 No, allow me!

And the $29 Trillion dollar billionaire robber baron banker "parasites" of 2008, fraudulent mortgage subprime lending financial debacle and fiasco?

https://www.levyinstitute.org/wp-con.../2024/02/QUOTE

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025...led-poor-kids/

BTW if you have a problem with all those subprime scams why didn't Scumbag Barry Hussein that you voted for lock anyone up? Not one dirtbag.

[The Cane]

So Trump cuts a deal with the United Kingdom to lower tariffs on Rolls Royce and Bentley automobiles. Now that's really going to benefit the majority of hardworking American people. Let's all go out and buy one now! LMFAO! True to form lowering taxes for the wealthy while screwing over the middle class and the poor. Let them eat (expensive) eggs and their children play with (even more expensive) dolls!

[Spidy]

41 million parasites in another, should I continue

https://www.cbpp.org/research/food-a...e-program-snap

No, allow me!

And the $29 Trillion dollar billionaire robber baron banker "parasites" of 2008, fraudulent mortgage subprime lending financial debacle and fiasco?

https://www.levyinstitute.org/wp-con...4/02/op_23.pdf

[The Cane]

Close, but not quite! LMAO!

[Spidy]

That you use the term your tax dollars as opposed to OUR tax dollars says it all.

Nitpicking at semantics over a quote, from an article entitled, "What Do Your Taxes Pay For?"...is pathetic! Is that all you got? (...kkkk!) Can you be any more pathetic?

It is time to come clean. How much are you getting from the government Spidy and how much are you spending on hookers? This act that you are playing that the tax dollars you spend on hookers is the same as building and maintaining roads is getting old. You are using my tax dollars to pay for your hookers versus your going out on your own and working is your being a parasite. How about doing something productive and earn your own money versus being a parasite?

Don't forget, you are of course, the "Paycheck Superhero", in your own mind and world of "Two in three tax dollars goes to someone else."

But I can see how you would be confused, since the billionaire robber baron class, have picked your pickets clean, are not paying their fair share of taxes and have largely left the payment of said taxes, to that of the hobbled and hallowed-out middle-class and "Paycheck Superheroes" like yourself. But fear not, once the Dems are back in power, I'm sure they'll maybe raise the tax rates on the billionaire robber baron class, to put things right.

In the meantime, take some advice and when one of YOUR heroes, and one of the biggest, baddest and world's richest investor man, says he doesn't mind paying his taxes, unlike fakeass "Paycheck Superheroes" or online/chatroom wannabes, such as yourself,...perhaps YOU SHOULD LISTEN!

I'll let the G.O.A.T. investor, Warren Buffet, explain it to y'all, MAGA chatroom wannabes:

• Warren Buffett Paid $5 Billion In Taxes And Says If 800 Other Companies Paid Their Share, No One Else Would Have To 'Pay A Dime' https://finance.yahoo.com/news/warre...150020350.html

Fantastic quote by the GOAT! Now that tells you everything you need to know, about how the billionaire robber baron class, have conned, hoodwinked and suckered you MAGA imbeciles into thinking, "Two in three tax dollars goes to someone else".

Again, the problem is the billionaire robber baron class, have you gullible MAGA imbeciles, so duped, bamboozled and confused, your lashing out at the wrong people. Your fellow hardworking Americans aren't YOUR so called "parasites", but rather the billionaire robber baron class, who continue at will, to pick your ignorant MAGA pockets clean.

[Elvis 2008]

The Wall St slave masters / goons have tired of the they put in charge over there, he's overdo for a coup any day now.

RIP Winnie the Pooh.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/06/o...i-jinping.html

https://asiatimes.com/2025/05/chinas...-death-spiral/

Producer prices have fallen for 29 consecutive months. March's figures showed the sharpest drop in four months, and forecasts point to an even steeper decline in April."

Yep, there is no deflation in sight. All is well in China. LOL. They have no incentive to negotiate. / sarc.

In all seriousness, I have not been to China as often as other family members (what I saw was enough), and I was talking to one and he told me about China and the mandate from Heaven. I honestly thought was a joke but apparently it is a real thing. This is from google AI:

The concept of the Mandate of Heaven, a traditional Chinese political ideology, has been invoked in discussions about the legitimacy of Xi Jinping's rule in China. According to this doctrine, a ruler's authority is granted by divine approval and is contingent upon their ability to govern wisely and justly. If a ruler fails to do so, they can lose the mandate, leading to potential revolts or changes in leadership.

Some scholars and commentators argue that Xi Jinping's legitimacy as a ruler is linked to the Mandate of Heaven, emphasizing his role in leading China into the "New Era" and promoting "common prosperity. " They suggest that his performance in office, particularly his efforts to strengthen China's economy and international standing, supports his claim to the mandate. For instance, Xi's third term as Chinese President was cemented at the 20th National Congress of the Communist Party of China in October 2022.

However, others contend that Xi Jinping has not been chosen by the Chinese people to rule, and therefore does not have the Mandate of Heaven. They argue that the mandate is derived from the people's approval and that Xi's ascent to power was not through democratic means.

The idea of the Mandate of Heaven continues to influence Chinese politics and society, even though the current system is not directly based on this ancient concept. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has adapted the notion to justify its rule and Xi's leadership, emphasizing performance legitimacy and the need for stability and prosperity.

End of link.

I had thought of Xi as an iron dictator incapable of being taken out, but apparently all that needs to happen is the people just believe he is not heaven's choice, and the people and party turn their backs on him. It is also interesting that he is having issues with the military.

This guy Peter Zeihan gets his information straight from the CIA and apparently Xi only likes yes men around him. So it makes sense at first he told Trump to piss off, but I think he got a lot of flak from people telling him he had to negotiate or the Chinese economy would tank.

If the Chinese economy collapses, and God should it ever, it looks like Xi will be on his way out.

[EihTooms]

Oh look. Another War has erupted in the World on the watch of a president who himself claims and his lemming Cult Followers insist is a "Man of Peace and there were no wars during his previous presidency", even though at least three wars raged on his watch including one he himself started against America on American soil.

Trump offers to help resolve conflict between India and Pakistan.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/07/trum...ndroidappshare

[Sirioja]

Funny, Tesla thinking about thermic engine for Europe? When down under sales, but because of Musk image. We had enough facists in Europe in past, we don't need him.

[Sirioja]

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...ac_report.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog..._military.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...s_funeral.html

Are you happy to live in a country almost all, except criminal Netanyahou, but others in the world hate now and find shameful. People in Europe trying but not succeeding despite big discount, to get rid of their Tesla, when they feel too shameful. New image of USA is big shame, but not quality. Pity, when I'm sure some Americans, with brain, worth a better image. How could Trump be elected again and after January 2021? Incredible. How could women, Latins and Black vote for him? When he hate them.

[MarquisdeSade1]

LOL. I think you are talking about illegals and "due process". The Democratic douches want to give illegals the same rights as citizens. That does not exist. This is from a lawyer who has been talking on MSNBC. https://dannycevallos.substack.com/p...ss-is-actually.

Most nations do not grant citizenship to women who have their children in their country. If you have your baby in Japan, unlike in the USA, the baby is not a Japanese citizen. The law that allowed pregnant Mexican women to cross the border and have their kids here and become American citizens is the 14th Amendment. The reason for the 14th Amendment was Southern states after the Civil war tried to deny citizenship to slaves. As they should have, lower courts have upheld the law giving citizenship to these birthed citizens as it is above their pay grade. Eventually, the Supreme Court will tackle this. To me, it is a no brainer to plug this hole. American citizenship has been valued in the millions and it should not just be given away as a right to a child whose parent is breaking the law.

The funny thing is I think Republicans are more pro-immigrant than Democrats. We just want legal and productive citizens and not the criminals that cross the border and whose only talents are selling drugs and voting Democrat.

As for China, a lot of countries have done well moving from the farm to the factory. China is in debt up to their eyeballs. Someone is paying for those empty cities, and the federal government of China has pushed the debt to the state and local level. Unlike Japan, there is no free flow of currency into the dollar and Euro, and the Chinese people have had little alternative other than to pile into real estate, and the Chinese lie their asses off with economic data, https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/be...nomic-collapse..

The Wall St slave masters / goons have tired of the [Deleted by Admin] they put in charge over there, he's overdo for a coup any day now.

RIP Winnie the Pooh.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/06/o...i-jinping.html

https://asiatimes.com/2025/05/chinas...-death-spiral/

[MarquisdeSade1]

Thanks, much appreciated! Both the article and video, were very good!

Very well explained and narrated, how the role of the right-wing billionaire robber baron class, is there to amplify the backlash, w/r to the progress and success, for example of President Obama and minority groups, with their dark money funded, political PACs and right-wing think tanks (ie. Heritage Foundation or Manhattan Institute) and media propaganda outlets, like Fox News.

From the 1990's manufactured moral panic over political correctness, to 2025's D.E.I. backlash, it's one ginned-up, boogeyman culture-war after another:

Political Correctness (PC)
Cancel Culture
Wokeism
Critical Race Theory (CRT)

And the latest, pejorative assault, on minorities;

D.E.I.

The rinse and repeat cycle of the right-wing "culture-wars" and PC boogeyman merry-go-around, perpetrated by the billionaire robber baron class, so as to easily "pick-the-pockets" of the gullible MAGA/Repub working class, while further enriching themselves, from the ensuing polarization and things like failed Trump Tariff Taxes (TTT).

Before Wokeness, There Was Political Correctness, June 16, 2022
https://inthesetimes.com/article/wok...ntity-politics

This cycle thrives on manufactured outrage to obscure economic grievances. As Barbara Epstein, observed in the 1990s, fears about "American culture disintegrating" were channeled into anti-PC rhetoric rather than critiques of capitalism and a greater, better and more egalitarian society, we'd rather live in.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...ac_report.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog..._military.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...s_funeral.html

[SubCmdr]

Now Musk through a legal maneuver is attempting to gain control of a State Park in Texas: Boca Chica Beach.

Space X has proposed incorporating the area which would give them control of the State Park within their jurisdiction.

The vote has been approved. They are going to name their new town Spaceport.

How did Musk convince people to come live on his corporate plantation? Are my fellow citizens so dumb they dont realize they are economic slaves?.

[SubCmdr]

You love rimming Xi so much why don't you live there

Just because you can see how a place is doing things in a superior fashion over the Dis-United States of America does not mean that you want to live there.

I like to ride motorcycles.

The Chinese Take Over

https://youtu.be/m7zShYw3Snw?si=ZJKtYYKuS12cP2Ob

But related to your point, A passport from China is currently better than the passport from the Dis-United State of America I currently hold.

https://youtu.be/151X9hkzD-I?si=4HJEZe8U7I8IJepi

[Elvis 2008]

To add to this- yes, the debt fuelled real estate build is one of the dumbest things the CCP has presided over and it's destroyed trillions of $ in this. It's had and will continue to have a significant drag on their economic performance. However, I don't see their following the Japanese into a deflationary spiral for two reasons: firstly, they have an immense amount of dry powder being the world's biggest debtor and the world's biggest saver. In fact this is their biggest weakness in that they just save way too much and consume too little, but it's also their biggest strength with regards to America being the world's biggest creditor. Who would you rather be given the choice? The second reason is admittedly less objective but still valid: it's their culture. They unlike the Japanese who have succumbed to a westernesque complacency, have still a chip on their shoulder, something to prove, a hunger and a drive and passion that the Japanese abandoned a long time ago. They are still suffering from the humiliation of the opium wars and a burning desire to wash off that humiliation through growth. They do this through both noble and ignoble means in my experience. The latter is how they waste food to indicate their wealth (the trauma of starvation from the 60's still lives in the national psyche) and this is something I've been very unimpressed by.

Regardless, underestimating the Chinese is something I would strongly advise against. They have shown time and time again the ability to reinvent and to out do the ROW on whatever they set their minds too. Musk literally laughed at them 10 years ago when someone suggested BYD was a threat and yet now he runs to his temp bro Trump pleading for tariffs saying that Tesla would be destroyed if BYD were allowed in. Napoleon warned " don't wake the sleeping dragon for when it wakes it will shake the world". Well the dragon is wide awake and the onus is on America now to determine how it deals with this, we all will bear the consequences of your strategy.

LOL. I think you are talking about illegals and "due process". The Democratic douches want to give illegals the same rights as citizens. That does not exist. This is from a lawyer who has been talking on MSNBC. https://dannycevallos.substack.com/p...ss-is-actually.

Most nations do not grant citizenship to women who have their children in their country. If you have your baby in Japan, unlike in the USA, the baby is not a Japanese citizen. The law that allowed pregnant Mexican women to cross the border and have their kids here and become American citizens is the 14th Amendment. The reason for the 14th Amendment was Southern states after the Civil war tried to deny citizenship to slaves. As they should have, lower courts have upheld the law giving citizenship to these birthed citizens as it is above their pay grade. Eventually, the Supreme Court will tackle this. To me, it is a no brainer to plug this hole. American citizenship has been valued in the millions and it should not just be given away as a right to a child whose parent is breaking the law.

The funny thing is I think Republicans are more pro-immigrant than Democrats. We just want legal and productive citizens and not the criminals that cross the border and whose only talents are selling drugs and voting Democrat.

As for China, a lot of countries have done well moving from the farm to the factory. China is in debt up to their eyeballs. Someone is paying for those empty cities, and the federal government of China has pushed the debt to the state and local level. Unlike Japan, there is no free flow of currency into the dollar and Euro, and the Chinese people have had little alternative other than to pile into real estate, and the Chinese lie their asses off with economic data, https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/be...nomic-collapse.

American savings are immense. They are just in the bond and stock market not banks, so I do not make that big of a deal with Americans and their lack of "savings".

While you acknowledge the real estate bubble, I do not think you get how bad it is. The rule of thumb used to be when buying a house you take your income and double it, so the price to income ratio should be 2. That is your house would cost double your income if you put every dollar you earned into your hose.

One reason and perhaps THE reason the great Biden economy is such a lie is that prices of stocks and real estate rose but not income with housing and not earnings with the stock market. When prices go up but not income or earnings, that is just money printing at work.

Now look at price to income ratios around the world. New York is fucking crazy at 14, but Shangai is at 34, and that is down from what it was. But you have Phoenix at 4 and Orlando and Dallas at 3, and you can see why everyone is moving there from New York and California. China is nowhere near done dealing with their real estate bubble.

Usually their home is the biggest asset most people own. You mention monetary policies and deflation but the root cause of deflation is falling demand, and that is a natural consequence of aging. Once people quit being parents, demand falls down. China is in the first inning of its deflationary bubble.

Japan and Western complacency? Come on, man. Japan kicked China's butt in WW2 and even today, Japan is way more organized, productive, and safe than China. Japan's issue is they are the oldest nation in the world. The first thing that happens when you go from the country to the city is kids go from being free labor to an expense. The USA has not followed that path. We have adjusted to lower births by allowing immigration. Like I said, the difference between Republicans and Democrats is not over immigration. It is over illegal immigration. For God's sake, Trump is on his second foreign wife.

And yeah, Japan made shit cars in the 1970's and upped their game in the 1980's. I remember being blown away by the Datsun 280 ZX in the 80's just like Chinese cars are blowing me away today. This is a wakeup call not just for American car companies but the world's car companies.

As for bringing home production, that was already happening after Covid. Trump is just accelerating that trend. I do not get this crap with stuff doubling in price. Iphones could be made in the USA for $30 more not double and with most goods, the cost of labor is tiny.

Some guy with TDS was saying the USA could not make shoes. I was laughing. Since when can the USA not make fucking shoes? Henry Ford invented the assembly line. A guy who looked into making shoes said an automated USA factory could produce shoes for 7% more than not China but even lower cost Vietnam. Once the right incentives are in place, I am sure the USA can produce not just equal but better quality shoes than Vietnam for less.

Do you think anyone in 2004 was saying the USA would be self sufficient in crude oil fifteen years later? How did that happen? Did Americans just trip over oil? We developed a new way to drill for crude which went from being expensive to cost effective. China has huge shale reserves, and they have not been able to tap into them in any meaningful way, and all you talk about is Western complacency.

You think the USA cannot build phone and shoe factories but China can get off oil and coal at break net speed? Please! Here are the numbers.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=64544 China's refiners imported 11.1 million be / the of crude oil and processed 14.2 million be / the. Both crude oil imports and refinery runs decreased in China from record levels in 2023, when the country imported 11.3 million be / the of crude oil and processed 14.8 million be / the.

In 2023, China's coal consumption reached 91.94 exajoules, marking a new high. In 2022, China's coal consumption grew by 4. 6 percent to a new all-time high of 4. 5 billion metric tons, nearly nine times higher than the United States.

Coal consumption went down in 2024 like oil did but there is nothing break net about that reduction, and China is the biggest coal importer in the world. If China invades Taiwan, the American navy cuts off China's crude and coal and their economy tanks in days.

I think I am realistic on China. It has huge issues that the USA does not have. Most of American's foreign policy was based on energy security and oil importation. We no longer have that issue and China does, and for some reason, you just want to blow that off. What happened with American oil production will happen in manufacturing. There were more cynics on oil production, I called them the peak oil nuts, then there are cynics on manufacturing. If Americans have the right incentive system, we can do almost anything better than anyone.

[Spidy]

The conning of dumb Repub hillbillies and thereby fleecing of America has been a longtime effort by elites, billionaires, Globalists and the like:

How billionaires created the DEI panic.
See the video too.
5/5/2025

https://www.mediamatters.org/critica...ated-dei-panic

Thanks, much appreciated! Both the article and video, were very good!

Very well explained and narrated, how the role of the right-wing billionaire robber baron class, is there to amplify the backlash, w/r to the progress and success, for example of President Obama and minority groups, with their dark money funded, political PACs and right-wing think tanks (ie. Heritage Foundation or Manhattan Institute) and media propaganda outlets, like Fox News.

From the 1990's manufactured moral panic over “political correctness”, to 2025's D.E.I. backlash, it's one ginned-up, boogeyman culture-war after another:

• Political Correctness (PC)
• Cancel Culture
• Wokeism
• Critical Race Theory (CRT)

And the latest, pejorative assault, on minorities;

• D.E.I.

The rinse and repeat cycle of the right-wing "culture-wars" and PC boogeyman merry-go-around, perpetrated by the billionaire robber baron class, so as to easily "pick-the-pockets" of the gullible MAGA/Repub working class, while further enriching themselves, from the ensuing polarization and things like failed Trump Tariff Taxes (TTT).

Before Wokeness, There Was “Political Correctness”, June 16, 2022
https://inthesetimes.com/article/wok...ntity-politics

This cycle thrives on manufactured outrage to obscure economic grievances. As Barbara Epstein, observed in the 1990s, fears about "American culture disintegrating" were channeled into anti-PC rhetoric rather than critiques of capitalism and a greater, better and more egalitarian society, we'd rather live in.