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[Explorer8939]

Sometimes I see grannies working bar and I wonder how that happened? Did a 55 year old lady in the village suddenly decide to head to Pattaya, and if so, why?

One reason is the phenomenon of lonely guys sending money to a lady for a long period of time. She may have been a young bargirl once, but she has been sitting in the village for years collecting free money from a Farang and living with her Thai boyfriend.

The long term problem is there is no long term. A lonely guy may send money for years (most stop after 3 months), but sooner or later the money is going to stop.

In a real relationship, the woman attempts to secure lifetime benefits, usually via marriage. In the case of long term sponsorship, the lady doesn't want to leave her Thai boyfriend, especially when she can get free money for doing nothing in the village. If she goes to live with her sponsor boyfriend, she's got to fuck him from time to time, which he effectively gets for free.

So, one day the money train ends, and the lady has to go to Pattaya to get money. If she is under 40, she can easily work bar. If she is 50+, it's very difficult.

[Explorer8939]

A bargirl I know is making big bucks in the bar, 100+ drinks every contract, barfined constantly, plus lonely guys send her money.

Yet, she asked to borrow 1000 baht to pay her rent.

Because she lives with a Thai man half her age, and the more she makes, the more he takes. She is paying him not to work in a boy bar, because when he did, he rarely came home.

So, she doesn't save a dime.

[Explorer8939]

One rather popular bargirl sends me a message every morning asking how I am. Not much more, but every day.

I thought she had some app that let her send the same message to all of her contacts, since it was odd she sent the message every day.

But then I remembered that she had a good customer a few years ago that slipped in the shower and died after no one checked on him for a few days. The bargirl was seeing him regularly but neglected to send him a message while he slowly died.

After that, she was afraid of his ghost bothering her, so it appears she isn't going to neglect customers again.

[Explorer8939]

Which beach / hotel.

Sai Khao. KC Grande Resort.

[Nyezhov]

I have taken 2 Pattaya ladies to Koh Chang. To make it weird, the driver of the taxi (it's a 4 hour drive just to go from Pattaya to the ferry pier) is the husband of one of the ladies in my rotation. He was very friendly, though.

I got two rooms at the hotel, and the ladies alternate nights with me.

Which beach / hotel.

[Explorer8939]

I have taken 2 Pattaya ladies to Koh Chang. To make it weird, the driver of the taxi (it's a 4 hour drive just to go from Pattaya to the ferry pier) is the husband of one of the ladies in my rotation. He was very friendly, though.

I got two rooms at the hotel, and the ladies alternate nights with me.

[SubCmdr]

For those of you who aren't broke and actually have some girls that like you VS is having a sale right now. If you buy 10 online you can have them shipped to you for a total of $58 in the US. I just put an order in. Go ahead and have some fun, make the girls happy and get a bunch of sexy pics and videos with them modelling their new VS. Shopping for them is also fun too. Get them now before the idiotic tariffs kick in because they are made in Vietnam. I had 3 of them show up with panties I had given them on my latest trip and they said they loved them and thanked me again.

Thanks, I am going to check it out! I have many girls that could use some g-strings.

[Newton York]

I trawl for Thailand news every day, cause I'm so desperate for all things Thai. Cause everything sucks here in Merica! Anyway, this trashbag of a human being insulted Thailand by claiming 'her money built Thailand'. Can you imagine that? But somehow no one outside of Thailand knew about it. It took Thailand's main news outlet 'Thaiger' a whole week to pick up this story. Finally.

I was looking all over youtube for someone to talk about her and nothing. Not a soul. Doesn't anybody care about Thailand and all the shitty tourists besmirching Thailand's good name?

I don't get it. I thought chicks from that part of the world were chill and everything. Look at Wonder Woman. She's pretty chill. All I know is if they're from the middle east, I'd want to bang them with the hijab on. That's kinda hot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7xgvver2o4

And take off your shoes!

[Explorer8939]

Last night's lady got so drunk, she had to summon her Thai husband to take her home (instead of taking Bolt). Unfortunately, he showed up with a motorcycle and she was very unsteady.

I suspect things went badly once she got home.

Her boyfriend patiently waited as she made her way from the condo reception area down to his moto. I suspect that 100% of her earnings last night ended up in his pocket.

[NicFrenchy]

First of all, respectable people don't shop around on ISG looking for what to do and where to dine tonight. Not "respectable" in the way the kingdom broadly defines it for the purposes of keeping the activity as reasonably descrite as possible.

I see where you are going with this, and this makes sense. Places do not advertise themselves but girls do. All over Facebook, IG, TikTok. They are just low-key directing people to their page on X, which has mostly 2 things:

1. They are just selling their locked X page where all their nudes are.

2. Selling "work" as they put it, giving their Line and Telegram page.

Majority of these girls are incall, and reluctant to make appointments with foreigners.

[EihTooms]

There are websites that fully resemble Fiwfans and are hosted in Europe. With hundreds of Thai girls operating in BKK and some other Thai regions.

Would they pop up on a Google Search by name? Have they established a presence on X, Facebook and / or Bluesky, as fiwfans / fwfans did?

I would say the "openly and shamefully offering prostitution in public" qualifier is the Thai Penal Code offense the BIB are looking for and for which the authorities can easily indict as a crime. I mean, leaving aside age, improper visa and / or forced prostitution-related issues. Of course, if a post is made here alerting the BIB that there is a venue or service that could be worthy of being investigated and shutdown, I suppose the BIB might very well have no choise but to follow up on the tip.

Otherwise, I am not sure a site like ISG qualifies as the kind of "public" platform where unsuspecting respectable passersby might unadvertantly be exposed to and meet that "openly and shamefully in public" standard.

First of all, respectable people don't shop around on ISG looking for what to do and where to dine tonight. Not "respectable" in the way the kingdom broadly defines it for the purposes of keeping the activity as reasonably descrite as possible. By the time you have entered ISG and clicked into this or any number of other forums and threads there is no chance you are going to be shocked, shocked to discover prostitution is going on in this place as though you were just walking on your way to the mall or your hotel and there it was.

But if someone types "fiw" into the Google Search box and in the first 1-2 results up pops an array of photos with profiles explicitly stating how much for 1 "mouth split" and 1 "water" without "pearls" stitched into your dick right in the heart of Bangkok the authorities probably consider that just two steps away from shouting it out on the corner of Sukhumvit and Asoke outside of Terminal 21.

And perhaps they feel the same about Telegram, Line and other international social network apps.

As opposed to what is discussed on this site, which they might consider roughly the same as a mamasan in a Happy Ending Massage Spa showing the prospective customer a menu that, sure enough, lists BJ, HJ and FS packages.

[Explorer8939]

I've got 2 ladies who are sort of trying to rope me into an exclusive relationship.

One is doing the standard bargirl approach: constant messages, lots of heart emojis, the usual stuff. She's a freelancer, but lazy, so she would rather just nail down a current customer.

The other is constantly fighting with her Thai boyfriend, and preparing to make a move. She has learned to cook Eggs Benedict and will bring some to my place.

Of course, I'm not going to fall for either.

[NicFrenchy]

That is what defines the money collectors for the fiwfans business model as "pimps" but the managers / mamasans at Tulip and Snow White merely as "massage shops managers. ".

Publicly, that is. Which dodges that whole "shamefully and publicly advertising or offering prostitution" crime section cited in the Thai Penal Code.

There are websites that fully resemble Fiwfans and are hosted in Europe. With hundreds of Thai girls operating in BKK and some other Thai regions.

[Explorer8939]

I was talking to a 20 year veteran bargirl last night in Passion Club, she was having problems with her Thai boyfriend. His mother wanted more money, and if she didn't get it, she ordered her son to stay with her. So, if the bargirl wanted to get laid, she had to pay the mother.

[EihTooms]

Not sure what you mean. In fiwfans the "agent"/pimp/whatever gets a cut of the money, and the girl the rest. At the shops, the shop gets a cut, and the girl the rest. What's the "big difference" here?

If anything, the fiwfans pimps maintain a much greater distance, as you don't ever give the money to them, only to the girl. Obviously they had no luck arguing "what the girl does with the money afterwards is her business. If she, out of the goodness of hear heat, bless her soul, wants to donate some to me, that's up to her", but that argument is not even possible in the case of shops.

I have no facts and don't even live in Thailand anymore, but my guess is that fiwfans got shut down because they a) were getting rather noticeable and big in terms of revenue, and b) did not grease the right, or most likely, any palms.

Unlike the shops, which I believe are licensed (not directly as wh0rehouses, but somewhat similar), and where the bib can easily ride up on their bikes to whatever shops is in their jurisdiction, and make the monthly inspection pleasant or not so pleasant, all while collecting their "fee", that's probably a bit more difficult to do in case of fiwfans. Possibly they did manage to find someone somewhere under 20 with a fake ID amongst the thousands of girls offering their service there, but I'm sure that was just the excuse used.

When I do a search on a free and public website for, say, Tulip and Snow White, it appears the only service for which the person collecting your money at the counter might get a cut is some vague thingy called "an erotic massage". If that. Tulip doesn't even have a public website.

That is the buffer of public deniability that has kept those two shops whose girls, some at least, presumably, do indeed provide more Real Sex to more customers in a week than many of those fiwfans princesses do in a year if not in their entire P4 P careers, open.

I barely recall "massage" even appearing very prominently on the fiwfans site. It starts with something about not accepting "pearls" stitched into their customers' dicks or whatever the hell that is and moves to surcharges for "splits in mouth" and extra "waters", etc, all of which must be more definitive as Sex / P4 P in Thai language.

That is what defines the money collectors for the fiwfans business model as "pimps" but the managers / mamasans at Tulip and Snow White merely as "massage shops managers. ".

Publicly, that is. Which dodges that whole "shamefully and publicly advertising or offering prostitution" crime section cited in the Thai Penal Code.