American Politics

[EihTooms]

While Trump's Titanic Sinking poll ratings have nothing to do with his chances of getting re-elected, he and President Musk will have to swing a whole new set of corrupt Repub Majority SCOTUS Justices payoffs and bribes along with a monumental rigging of the vote counting machines to "lose" millions upon millions of votes and a few critical EV votes for the Democratic challenger, that American Consumer Sentiment plunge is adding to the historic sinking and, naturally, emboldening Congressional Repub poll-followers to reject his proposals:

Consumer sentiment slides to second-lowest on record.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/16/cons...ndroidappshare

Little wonder, considering what retailers are telling the American Consumer will be the real result of Trump's Tariffs as opposed to the blithering blathering lies Trump has been repeating about them over the past several months:

China tariff 'stacking' pushes true cost of import taxes well above 30%.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/16/chin...ndroidappshare

You know, it could very well be that Trump will have done so much damage to the economy, to American Consumers and to his Party that when he gets duly Impeached again by the new Democratic Party House Majority some time in early 2027, the Senate Repubs will finally do their duty to convict him and set up a nice post-Administration set of new post-administration criminal charges that even the corrupt SCOTUS MAGA Majority will find impossible to ignore.

And that will truly MAGA and illustrate to all Americans what winning really looks like.

[Elvis 2008]

Hmmmm....would that be the affluent society of the day, prior to 1913 and income tax, paid for with the broken backs of the Black slave labor, the Native Indigenous enslavement camps, the Chinese indentured/railroad slave labor or the migrant/immigrant low-wage slave-like exploitation?

Yes, the income tax ended all that? And the Chinese workers and African blacks were better off in their native lands? LOL. The native Americans are a much more complex topic. Of course, I have no idea what they had to do with the income tax either.

And so because you take your government handouts means you are on the side of the oppressed Chinese and blacks? LOL. Oh yeah, sure you are.

Spidy, if you are so fucking opposed to billionaires, shouldn't you be a Republican? Most billionaires are or were Democrats. I grant you there were a few who jumped ship when the Democrats abandoned Democracy and followed their demented candidate with a drunk, but in 2016, I cannot recall any billionaires who supported Trump. Hell, we had Zuckerburg paying nearly a billion to rig elections.

[EihTooms]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/15/b...ick-mcgee.html

Kamala Harris Would Beat Donald Trump if Election Held Again: Poll
May 15, 2025

https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harr...y-poll-2072730

The Strength In Numbers/Verasight poll, conducted May 1 to 6, found 47 percent of respondents who would vote in a hypothetical do-over backed Democrat Harris, compared to 42 percent for Republican Trump.

Including those who would not vote, Harris' share of the vote dropped to 40 percent against Trump's 36 percent.
..........
Since then several polls have shown that voters don't trust Trump on the economy. That includes the Strength In Numbers/Verasight poll which shows that Trump's net approval on the economy stands at -17 points, with 38 approving and 58 disapproving.

Trump fares even worse on the issue of prices and inflation, with his net approval at -32 points, with 31 percent approving and 63 percent disapproving..

115 days of a "honeymoon" with this historically disastrous Trump's Pandemic Part 2 term is more than enough for the overwhelming majority of Americans to stomach.

[MarquisdeSade1]

The China I am referring to is the one on which numbskull Trump imposed a 145% Tariff on everything along with grandly warning the Whole Wide World that any retribution or retaliation would be met with WORSE and HIGHER Trump Tariffs.

Followed by the Whole Wide World watching that China's retribution and retaliation right back onto America with even WORSE Tariffs.

Followed by the Whole Wide World watching Trump buckling, caving, grabbing his knees and taking it up the ass without KY-Jelly directly from Xi and THAT China until now he will only add a 10-30% Numbskull Trump Tariiff Additional Tax on the American Consumer onto everything they want and need to buy from China..

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...g-drug-prices/

Trump's Drug Price Order Strikes at the Heart of Foreign Free-Riding.

For decades, American consumers have been paying the world's highest drug prices—not because we use more medicine, or demand higher quality, but because our government chose not to negotiate.

May 14, 2025.

Trump's MFN Drug Price Plan and the Trade War in Pharma Lab Coats.

For decades, American consumers have been paying the world's highest drug prices—not because we use more medicine, or demand higher quality, but because our government chose not to negotiate. While other nations imposed hard price caps or demanded steep discounts from pharmaceutical companies, the United States allowed drugmakers to charge whatever the market would bear.

Or so we were told.

In reality, there is no true "free market" in pharmaceuticals. What we call a market-based system is in fact a heavily regulated, government-protected pricing regime built atop patents, FDA exclusivity, and mandatory insurance coverage. It is a system in which competition is deliberately suppressed—first by intellectual property law, then by regulatory lock-in, and finally by federal restrictions that prohibit the country's largest buyer, Medicare, from bargaining directly. This is not free enterprise. This is cartelized pricing with government enforcement.

The Forgotten Tariff: Prescription Drugs.

This divergence took shape in the second half of the 20th century. As Europe and Canada built government-run or heavily regulated health systems, they created agencies to demand steep discounts or block new drugs unless prices aligned with cost-effectiveness thresholds. Meanwhile, the USA Took a more fragmented, so-called market-driven path.

But how market-driven can a system be when the federal government—through Medicare, Medicaid, and the Veterans Affairs Department—is the largest purchaser of prescription drugs? Medicare, the nation's largest health insurer, was legally barred from negotiating prices when the Part the benefit was created in 2003. It accounts for around 30 percent of all drug purchases in the USA Medicaid's "best price" rule discouraged deeper private market discounts. And while the USA Fostered a robust generics industry, brand-name drugs—especially new, high-cost therapies—remained exempt from pricing discipline.

The consequences are staggering. Americans routinely pay two to four times more for the same brand-name drug than patients in Germany, Canada, or Australia. In many cases, the exact same pill made in the same factory costs a fraction abroad of what it does at the USA Pharmacy counter. These are not generics. These are identical products, sold cheaper everywhere else.

Why? Because every other developed country uses some form of centralized price negotiation or regulation. The USA Stands virtually alone in letting manufacturers name their price—then requires insurance plans, public and private alike, to cover those products. That is not a market. That is a racket.

Meanwhile, American businesses have shouldered the cost. Rising prescription drug prices inflate the price of employer-sponsored health insurance, raising the cost of labor in the USA Relative to competitors abroad. Health coverage here is not a government service but an employer obligation. That means every artificially high drug price gets baked into the cost of American labor—and with it, the cost of American goods and services.

By contrast, foreign firms benefit from single-payer systems that negotiate aggressively. Their workers are covered by national health plans; their products aren't priced with an implicit healthcare surcharge. The result is a quiet but powerful tilt in global competitiveness: a de facto tax on USA Employment and production.

Global Imbalance by Design.

For years, pharmaceutical executives and their lobbyists defended this imbalance by claiming that high USA Prices were necessary to fund innovation. Foreign governments, they argued, were "free-riding" on American investment. That's not wrong, but the conclusion is backwards.

If other countries are underpaying, then the solution is not to maintain our overpayment. It is to stop enabling the free ride.

This is not just a healthcare issue—it's the pharmaceutical equivalent of NATO burden-sharing. For decades, the USA Has shouldered the cost of defending Europe while European nations underfunded their own militaries. Now, in medicine as in defense, America is demanding that wealthy allies pay their fair share.

President Trump's Most-Favored-Nation (MFN) Executive Order, signed earlier this month, flips the system. It pegs the prices paid by Medicare and Medicaid to the lowest amount paid by comparable foreign countries. In effect, America will no longer subsidize the rest of the world's medicine cabinets. If a German patient gets a drug for $300, the American taxpayer will not pay $1,200.

President Donald Trump signs an executive order on Delivering Most-Favored-Nation Prescription Drug Pricing to American Patient at a press conference with Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. , on May 12,2025, in the White House. (Official White House Photo by Joyce and. Boghosian via Flickr).

This is not just about domestic affordability. It's about global competition. For decades, American businesses have shouldered the cost of overpriced prescription drugs through rising insurance premiums and benefit costs. Lowering drug prices isn't just a healthcare issue—it's industrial policy.

This policy is also consistent with Trump's broader trade philosophy. Just as tariffs on foreign steel aimed to correct market distortions created by foreign subsidies, MFN pricing corrects the distortion created by foreign price controls. This is not price fixing—it's reciprocal pricing. And like tariffs, it is a tool to reassert American sovereignty and strategic interest.

The Innovation Objection.

Critics warn that MFN pricing will reduce drug company revenue and thus slow innovation. It may—modestly. The Congressional Budget Office estimates a 5 to 10 percent decline in new drug development over the next two decades. That's real. But so is the $500 billion in projected savings for American patients and taxpayers.

More importantly, we should ask: What kind of innovation are we funding with those inflated prices? A growing share of pharmaceutical R&D goes toward "me-too" drugs, patent extensions, and market-protection strategies. The idea that every dollar taken from drugmakers is a dollar lost to scientific progress is not just inaccurate—it's propaganda.

A smarter pricing system may actually sharpen incentives by rewarding genuine breakthroughs while trimming waste. And let's not forget that public research agencies like the NIH already fund much of the foundational science behind new therapies. The private sector thrives on those publicly created discoveries.

It's Time for the Rebalancing to Begin.

In truth, the MFN order is just a starting point. Its success will depend on implementation, legal resilience, and follow-through in negotiations. But the principle it asserts is clear and long overdue: Americans should not be forced to overpay for medicine so that foreign governments can underpay.

What President Trump has done is extend the logic of America First into a new economic theater: the global drug market. For the first time in modern history, a USA President has told the pharmaceutical industry and its international customers that the days of one-way pricing are over. That is not just health reform—it is trade reform. It is industrial policy. And it is a long-overdue assertion of national interest in a sector that has for too long been shielded from scrutiny.

As the administration moves forward, industry backlash is inevitable. So are threats of reduced investment and foreign noncompliance. But as with tariffs, those are not reasons to back down. They are signs the policy is working.

In a global economy rigged by price disparities and state-protected sectors, fairness begins with leverage. The MFN rule is a tool of leverage. And for once, that leverage is being used on behalf of the American patient, worker, and employer—not against them.

[MarquisdeSade1]

You make what was mostly the Biden Economy in America over the past 110 days or so sound much, much better than what was happening in China.

Well, it was good while it lasted:

Under of a cloud of tariffs, Walmart is the latest retailer to announce price hikes.
May 15, 2025

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/under...BaEvSqCX5GQcgc

Walmart Becomes Biggest Retailer Yet to Pass Through Tariff Price Increases.
Walmart plans to raise prices this month and early this summer; other retailers likely will follow.
May 15, 2025..

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/15/b...ick-mcgee.html

[MarquisdeSade1]

And here's a dude who's lived in the United States since 1980, a green card holder, who teaches at the Texas School for the blind.
These right wing militia types were always saying they wanted to stay well-armed in case the government overstepped its bounds and started really infringing on the rights of citizens, well, that's happening. Where are they? Oh, they're okay because it's only brown people that are being messed with and people who don't agree with their political slant.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...border-control

I thank the Gods every minute of every fucking day for Donald J Trump.

https://www.newsmax.com/us/ice-venez...15/id/1211170/

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10156046834215725

Infringing on the rights of citizens? WTF he isn't a citizen.

Where the fuck were you when the Scumbag Democrats were destroying the rights of its citizens with DEI and pouring in tens of millions of psychotic 3rd world savages to rape and murder its citizens.

And destroying free and fair elections and destroying the rule of law with 93 bogus kangaroo court felony charges, 2 fake impeachments etc etc etc.

"Vengeance is mine sayeth the lord", Donald J Trump (Our Lord and Savior) January 20,2025 aka the Savior of Western Civilization.

Or as I like to say "live by the sword die by the sword" aka paybacks are a motherfucker!

[Goatscrot]

Agreed!

And just as equally, well stated and succinct, but perfectly articulated. Tis, definitely refreshing, to see when others, understand and acknowledge, what a just, fair and equitably ran society, looks like.

• "Id rather be called a socialist than watch this country turn into an oligarchy where the rich live off the work of everyone else." --Warren Buffett, 2015, Charlie Rose interview

And here's a dude who's lived in the United States since 1980, a green card holder, who teaches at the Texas School for the blind.
These right wing militia types were always saying they wanted to stay well-armed in case the government overstepped its bounds and started really infringing on the rights of citizens, well, that's happening. Where are they? Oh, they're okay because it's only brown people that are being messed with and people who don't agree with their political slant.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...border-control

[Goatscrot]

Agreed!

And just as equally, well stated and succinct, but perfectly articulated. Tis, definitely refreshing, to see when others, understand and acknowledge, what a just, fair and equitably ran society, looks like.

• "Id rather be called a socialist than watch this country turn into an oligarchy where the rich live off the work of everyone else." --Warren Buffett, 2015, Charlie Rose interview

And let's not forget that we are now seeing an American Gestapo. Sorry, party who ran on defending free speech is showing exactly the opposite. America under Donald Trump is becoming East Germany. All while ignoring the biggest threat to freedom in america, Christian nationalists.

https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtond...ulles_from_an/

[Spidy]

Ah yes, taxes are the price we pay for a well functioning society. Yes, how on earth did Americans get by prior to 1913 and the income tax?

Hmmmm....would that be the affluent society of the day, prior to 1913 and income tax, paid for with the broken backs of the Black slave labor, the Native Indigenous enslavement camps, the Chinese indentured/railroad slave labor or the migrant/immigrant low-wage slave-like exploitation?

Why, they must have been uncivilized.

You nailed it!

Thank God we had the TSA bringing civility to air travel. How did we ever get by before then? I love how taxpayers paying for your hookers makes us civil.

And now Canadians want to pay more in taxes and you believe them? Just like Buffett? Actually, if you recall, Spidy, I said I would pay more taxes too as long as parasites like you are willing to take less too. You must have missed that part.

Perhaps you've missed it, since I've just already finish explaining "...who the real parasites are...", to the other MAGA neophyte, who perhaps now gets it, (hint: it's the billionaires and robber baron class).

But just in case, Elvis 2008, you can't take a hint, on who the REAL parasites are, I'll let one of YOUR GREATEST HEROES (America's and mine), explain it to you once AGAIN, in his own words:

• "The poor aren't the takers...the rich who exploit loopholes are. And I'm one of them!" --Warren Buffett

[Spidy]

How did the US function? Well it was a paradise for the wealthy, and hell on Earth for the poor. There was virtually no middle class. Cities were successful in working conditions were horrific. We need to expand the public sector, not contracted. The United States cannot consider itself a truly developed country without universal health care, paid education including University and tech school, excellent pensions at a reasonable age, four weeks paid vacation, and viable public transportation that makes owning a car optional. I don't know how anyone can spend significant time overseas and still think America is the greatest.

Agreed!

And just as equally, well stated and succinct, but perfectly articulated. Tis, definitely refreshing, to see when others, understand and acknowledge, what a just, fair and equitably ran society, looks like.

• "Id rather be called a socialist than watch this country turn into an oligarchy where the rich live off the work of everyone else." --Warren Buffett, 2015, Charlie Rose interview

[MarquisdeSade1]

How did the US function? Well it was a paradise for the wealthy, and hell on Earth for the poor. There was virtually no middle class. Cities were successful in working conditions were horrific. We need to expand the public sector, not contracted. The United States cannot consider itself a truly developed country without universal health care, paid education including University and tech school, excellent pensions at a reasonable age, four weeks paid vacation, and viable public transportation that makes owning a car optional. I don't know how anyone can spend significant time overseas and still think America is the greatest.

But not so much here, firstly socialized medicine is a horrible concept in theory and in practice, just ask anyone that has health problems in a country with it, like ie, Canada the UK or Germany.

"I don't know how anyone can spend significant time overseas and still think America is the greatest".

This line is really really fucking laughable, I didn't know if the USA was the best country or not until I traveled all over the world, but now, I absolutely know it is.

There isn't a country that can even come close to competing with the USA in quality of life.

Not in Asia, not in Europe, not in Latin America.

They all completely suck, some more so than others, some are ok to visit.

But as far as living there versus the USA, you need your fucking head examined!!

[RamDavidson84]

How did the US function? Well it was a paradise for the wealthy, and hell on Earth for the poor. There was virtually no middle class. Cities were successful in working conditions were horrific. We need to expand the public sector, not contracted. The United States cannot consider itself a truly developed country without universal health care, paid education including University and tech school, excellent pensions at a reasonable age, four weeks paid vacation, and viable public transportation that makes owning a car optional. I don't know how anyone can spend significant time overseas and still think America is the greatest.

The obvious problem is America is full of a bunch of assholes, like me, who would abuse that system and milk it dry until it would become unsustainable. Other countries that try that shit have GDPs which are half of the USA and they also don't have all the assholes living there like we do. Look at France, Spain, UK, Canada. Its not a paradise like it seems. The exceptions like Norway work because they have a population which is 1/30 of the USA and its much easier to stop corruption and keep the assholes in line. It just wouldn't work on a scale as big as the USA nor do most Americans want to pay those high taxes for those benefits. Many Americans are greedy self centered jerk offs and they don't want those policies. They would rather have higher pay with lower taxes and less benefits for the lower classes. I understand why the jerk offs are greedy too, so many jobs in the USA pay well, but the stress and toxic environment for many of those jobs is so high, the only way you can justify doing it is the high pay. Cops, Teachers, Nurses, City workers, construction, politicians, lawyers, people don't work those high stress jobs to make a difference anymore- they work that shit for the money and that high stress makes them greedy. It is what it is my guy.

All those things you list sure would be nice though, too bad we have a national debt of 30 trillion and can't even fund our current social security system.

[Goatscrot]

Ah yes, taxes are the price we pay for a well functioning society. Yes, how on earth did Americans get by prior to 1913 and the income tax? Why, they must have been uncivilized. Thank God we had the TSA bringing civility to air travel. How did we ever get by before then? I love how taxpayers paying for your hookers makes us civil.

And now Canadians want to pay more in taxes and you believe them? Just like Buffett? Actually, if you recall, Spidy, I said I would pay more taxes too as long as parasites like you are willing to take less too. You must have missed that part.

How did the US function? Well it was a paradise for the wealthy, and hell on Earth for the poor. There was virtually no middle class. Cities were successful in working conditions were horrific. We need to expand the public sector, not contracted. The United States cannot consider itself a truly developed country without universal health care, paid education including University and tech school, excellent pensions at a reasonable age, four weeks paid vacation, and viable public transportation that makes owning a car optional. I don't know how anyone can spend significant time overseas and still think America is the greatest.

[Goatscrot]

(...kkkk!) Our resident ART armchair critic #1, with not much to say, other than the usual, bigotry!


(...kkkk!) Our resident ART armchair critic #2, with EVEN LESS to say, than the first armchair chair MAGA critic, other than of course, the usual bigotry!

Is it ART according to MAGA?:

Here go again, with our top 2, ISG MAGA culture war neophytes, as this time, they are desperately trying to be art critics? What it been like all of 5 minutes...and you guys, back so soon, with yet another MAGA culture-war puff piece?

No doubt, a puff piece and hack job, they saw on FOXY Muse, from some washed-up has-been journalist/MAGA pundit, who would thinks today's idea of "high art" is a viral meme OR an NFT, depicting your Orange American Fuhrer next to Orangutan, with the caption "Who's prettier?" (...kkkk!)

Renaissance Ideals vs. Modern Representation:

But jokes aside, what you both need to know is that, Price's depiction of his beautiful "everyday Black Woman" sculpture, entitled 'Grounded in the Stars', is nothing new or weird, as artists have often had strange depictions of women, that have played out throughout history, from Michelangelo to Picasso?

Picasso's women often described as "grotesque" and Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel women, such as the Cumaen Sibyl or Night on the Medici tombs, are notably muscular and athletic, with broad shoulders, defined abs, and powerful limbs, are often described as "men with breasts (checkout: "Why Michelangelo's Women Were So Manly?" https://medium.com/counterarts/why-m...y-e65cc309c8b1 )

BTW, Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel women, sounds wonderfully perfect for you MAGA INCEL, He Man Women Haters and armchair ART critics!

But remember those, fat, nude, grotesque, and "men with breast", that have adorned the Sistine Chapel and other places, have weathered their fair share of controversy for decades, despite their bigoted and narrow-minded critics.

• "And controversy he got, despite a subtle degree of aggrandizement; Price's figure stands in a pose that nods to Michelangelo's David" https://news.artnet.com/art-world/th...debate-2642837

Fair or unfair critique of Price's 'Grounded in the Stars', is IMHO, the great controversy, that he intentionally challenges classical ideals, by celebrating unapologetic, the contemporary body diversity, that so many famous artists before him have done.

So while other typical controversial statues like Robert E. Lee, Christopher Columbus or Theodore Roosevelt, have had their day in the sun and are now taken down, melted or stuffed in a museum somewhere, it can be also said, that the controversial, "everyday Black Woman" sculpture, entitled 'Grounded in the Stars', its day will come, when it too, will have its sunset moment. Till then, keep an open mind!

Just remember:

• "FREE YOUR MIND
  And the rest will follow
  Be colour-blind
  Don't be so shallow
  FREE YOUR MIND"

Oh, BTW...it isn't as if, you narrow minded, MAGA neophyte bigoted armchair critics wouldn't have equally complained about a statue/sculpture of Maya Angelou or Harriet Tubman, standing in Times Square. Bet you're asses, you'd all be applying some bigoted twist.

"It's 'your nature', said the proverbial frog to the scorpion!

PS: Don't QUIT your day jobs! (...kkkk!)

Very well stated! Good art creates cognitive tension. And challenges the viewers values not just their aesthetic sense.

Meanwhile the United States is becoming North Korea.

[Spidy]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...ping-worldwide

While it is not allowed to have statues of Thomas Jefferson or Teddy Roosevelt, among others, in New York City, a 12 ft bronze statue of a random fat black woman just standing there is certainly permitted. The Roosevelt and Jefferson statues were removed last year. After all, what did they ever do in contrast with this overweight fictional woman whose nipples are showing through her baggy t-shirt?

This is a fictional black woman. A fat, sloppy, slouchily dressed, black woman. Couldn't even find an ACTUAL black woman to represent.

No Harriet Tubman.

No Daisy Bates.

No Maya Angelou.

Just a fat fucking black woman.

And it gets worse: Similar statues installed recently in Florence, San Francisco, Rotterdam, & New York. All by the same (grifter-artist, "Thomas J Price," all with high levels of federal, municipal, private funding.

My favorite comment was: How about something that looks less like someone complaining their "order wasn't right"?

And then there is this bullshit: "In a culture that increasingly encourages a faster pace, Grounded in the Stars is an introspective meditation on humanity," the artist's website states, claiming the statue should "instigate meaningful connections and bind into an emotional state that allow for deeper reflection around the Human condition and greater cultural diversity. ".

Can you believe this crap? Obviously, the goal is if anyone criticizes the statue, you can call the person sexist and racist. ...

(...kkkk!) Our resident ART armchair critic #1, with not much to say, other than the usual, bigotry!

Yes I saw IT I tried to post it, I don't see my post

You mention that fat pig on food stamps.
...

100 billion a year on parasites getting fat on Cheetos and Pepsi.

(...kkkk!) Our resident ART armchair critic #2, with EVEN LESS to say, than the first armchair chair MAGA critic, other than of course, the usual bigotry!

Is it ART according to MAGA?:

Here go again, with our top 2, ISG MAGA culture war neophytes, as this time, they are desperately trying to be art critics? What it been like all of 5 minutes...and you guys, back so soon, with yet another MAGA culture-war puff piece?

No doubt, a puff piece and hack job, they saw on FOXY Muse, from some washed-up has-been journalist/MAGA pundit, who would thinks today's idea of "high art" is a viral meme OR an NFT, depicting your Orange American Fuhrer next to Orangutan, with the caption "Who's prettier?" (...kkkk!)

Renaissance Ideals vs. Modern Representation:

But jokes aside, what you both need to know is that, Price's depiction of his beautiful "everyday Black Woman" sculpture, entitled 'Grounded in the Stars', is nothing new or weird, as artists have often had strange depictions of women, that have played out throughout history, from Michelangelo to Picasso?

Picasso's women often described as "grotesque" and Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel women, such as the Cumaen Sibyl or Night on the Medici tombs, are notably muscular and athletic, with broad shoulders, defined abs, and powerful limbs, are often described as "men with breasts (checkout: "Why Michelangelo's Women Were So Manly?" https://medium.com/counterarts/why-m...y-e65cc309c8b1 )

BTW, Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel women, sounds wonderfully perfect for you MAGA INCEL, He Man Women Haters and armchair ART critics!

But remember those, fat, nude, grotesque, and "men with breast", that have adorned the Sistine Chapel and other places, have weathered their fair share of controversy for decades, despite their bigoted and narrow-minded critics.

• "And controversy he got, despite a subtle degree of aggrandizement; Price's figure stands in a pose that nods to Michelangelo's David" https://news.artnet.com/art-world/th...debate-2642837

Fair or unfair critique of Price's 'Grounded in the Stars', is IMHO, the great controversy, that he intentionally challenges classical ideals, by celebrating unapologetic, the contemporary body diversity, that so many famous artists before him have done.

So while other typical controversial statues like Robert E. Lee, Christopher Columbus or Theodore Roosevelt, have had their day in the sun and are now taken down, melted or stuffed in a museum somewhere, it can be also said, that the controversial, "everyday Black Woman" sculpture, entitled 'Grounded in the Stars', its day will come, when it too, will have its sunset moment. Till then, keep an open mind!

Just remember:

• "FREE YOUR MIND
  And the rest will follow
  Be colour-blind
  Don't be so shallow
  FREE YOUR MIND"

Oh, BTW...it isn't as if, you narrow minded, MAGA neophyte bigoted armchair critics wouldn't have equally complained about a statue/sculpture of Maya Angelou or Harriet Tubman, standing in Times Square. Bet you're asses, you'd all be applying some bigoted twist.

"It's 'your nature', said the proverbial frog to the scorpion!

PS: Don't QUIT your day jobs! (...kkkk!)