Sao Paulo Reports

[Nounce]

And SP is nothing special just a big city.

It's a diverse city with many different cultures from different countries, more vibrant than rio, IMO. I prefer SP by a mile but you have to live here to experience it.

[Steve 9696]

Good report! It's nice to read a different report about Sao Paulo. When I arrive in Rio and travels from the airport I feel alive and bursting from energy when passing by the favelas, morros, tunnels and the beaches. When I arrive in Sao Paulo and travels from the airport to centro I feel sad as I like I arrived in a giant flat and ugly city without energy. Well, that's my opinion.

My last couple visits I've done both Rio and SP and I think I will stick with that. With only an hour flight and $149 you are good to go.

No question Rio is a fun and vibrant city and of course the beach and all. And SP is nothing special just a big city. The big draw of SP is the club scene. The Boate's. Scandallo and Casarao simply don't exist in Rio. Yes there are some girls bars like Dolce Vita and Casablanca. But you are talking 1/5 the girls of casarao and 1/10 the girls of Scandallo.

My advice to others is as follows:

If you enjoy the nightclub scene then SP wins hands down. If that doesn't matter than definitely Rio.

As far as Scandallo goes, if $1000 is a lot of money to you then it's probably not for you. You will find it a "bad value". But if $1000 is neither here nor there for you then its hard to suggest a more fun place on planet earth IMO.

[Sperto]

Been to both Rio and Sao Paulo 4 times in 2 years and it's Rio by a long stretch. SP is too expensive and not enough quality and quantity for me. You can't compare SP's vibe to Rio vibe. From the Prives, Casa's, massage clinics, Termas. Beaches. Rio wins by a mile. I don't know where you went and when you went there, but I had the blast of my life. Casarao is currently the only bright spark in SP.

I went to Miruna, Abbobora, Klin and others and was disappointed by the quality and price. Scandallo price doesn't make sense to me. To each his own. I left Scandallo to got to Casarao.

YMMV.

Good report! It's nice to read a different report about Sao Paulo. When I arrive in Rio and travels from the airport I feel alive and bursting from energy when passing by the favelas, morros, tunnels and the beaches. When I arrive in Sao Paulo and travels from the airport to centro I feel sad as I like I arrived in a giant flat and ugly city without energy. Well, that's my opinion.

[SocratesNY]

Curious about your experience at Seen. Did you stay at the Tivoli? I was reading some reviews of the hotel and some of the guests were complaining that it was filled with prostitutes in the evening, LOL. Like oh no that's terrible, what days and times was it so I know when to not be there!

But I wonder if that's what you saw, if that's what the vibe is. Sounds fun to me!

During the 5-6 visits I've been to Seen, I was always with a date or group of friend or colleagues so never tried to chat up the obvious working girls that was there.

The ones I noticed that were available were all in the bar area. They were generally elegantly dressed and solo or working in pairs. Most of the ones I saw weren't really my type as they were usually in the late 20's or older and had obvious work done.

I would also presume their asking price wouldn't be cheap, as Seen is in a luxury 5 star hotel with lots of businessmen and rich guests.

[The Cane]

Been to both Rio and Sao Paulo 4 times in 2 years and it's Rio by a long stretch. SP is too expensive and not enough quality and quantity for me. You can't compare SP's vibe to Rio vibe. From the Prives, Casa's, massage clinics, Termas. Beaches. Rio wins by a mile. I don't know where you went and when you went there, but I had the blast of my life. Casarao is currently the only bright spark in SP.

I went to Miruna, Abbobora, Klin and others and was disappointed by the quality and price. Scandallo price doesn't make sense to me. To each his own. I left Scandallo to got to Casarao.

YMMV.

At least with respect to this year. Was in Brazil last February and March, and never saw so many fat and uglies in Rio! Very disappointing! Sao Paulo won by a mile! But overall both were disappointing compared to prior trips. Still owe two final reports. I hope by next week!

[Steve 9696]

Curious about your experience at Seen. Did you stay at the Tivoli? I was reading some reviews of the hotel and some of the guests were complaining that it was filled with prostitutes in the evening, LOL. Like oh no that's terrible, what days and times was it so I know when to not be there!

But I wonder if that's what you saw, if that's what the vibe is. Sounds fun to me!

I think Socrates was saying he sees freelancers there. But both times I went were early — like 7 or 8 and the scene was just couples and groups having dinner. It's laid out as a restaurant so not a lot of ways to approach. I suppose there could be some single ladies at the bar. But since I had the hottest girls in the room w me I wasn't paying attention. Hahaha. I def wouldn't suggest it for finding action but maybe late night you might get lucky. Socrates may weigh in as he recommended it to me. Great place to take a date if you want to impress her.

[Tribute15]

For those wondering about traveling to Sao Paolo or Rio, I will confirm that there is a much higher level in Sao Paolo if it is primarily the ladies that attract you.

4 X4, Montecarlo and Solarium in Rio were a tragedy compared to what I remember from a few years ago. I didn't have time to try Santaurus, but it is probably still the best.

I had my glory days at Help disco and Scandalo in Sao Paolo can't compare to the sexy atmosphere that was there even though Scandalo is definitely the best now. I missed sitting at an outdoor restaurant watching the lovely ladies sit around and start negotiating with horny like-minded people.

I tried Copa Cobana below the Hilton. Here there were lots of hot ladies ready for action before. Now there was nothing to pick up.

Is there no action at the beach anymore?

And aren't there any cool cafes where the ladies operate?

I was going to try Friends in Sao Paolo and it was closed. The security guard told me about a place nearby called Zeus Bar Show. www.zeusbar.com.br.

Been to both Rio and Sao Paulo 4 times in 2 years and it's Rio by a long stretch. SP is too expensive and not enough quality and quantity for me. You can't compare SP's vibe to Rio vibe. From the Prives, Casa's, massage clinics, Termas. Beaches. Rio wins by a mile. I don't know where you went and when you went there, but I had the blast of my life. Casarao is currently the only bright spark in SP.

I went to Miruna, Abbobora, Klin and others and was disappointed by the quality and price. Scandallo price doesn't make sense to me. To each his own. I left Scandallo to got to Casarao.

YMMV.

[KnightCrawller]

At some point I have the amazing idea that we could repeat the double date concept at Seen (BTW if you have never been to Seen the combo of food and view is stunning). So I text Mark and see if he and his girl are down and then ask Nat and she's all in!

Curious about your experience at Seen. Did you stay at the Tivoli? I was reading some reviews of the hotel and some of the guests were complaining that it was filled with prostitutes in the evening, LOL. Like oh no that's terrible, what days and times was it so I know when to not be there!

But I wonder if that's what you saw, if that's what the vibe is. Sounds fun to me!

[Guest19]

Go to Booking.com and find that hotel. Then go to the hotel in question and go to the reviews page. There is a WiFi overall rating but you can also Search on WiFi to get specific comments (like was hard to connect to vs weak signal). I've def eliminated some hotels this way.

I am always doing exactly what you suggested. Results:

- The internet was not very strong in guest rooms, so working from the room was difficult.

- Location was very good. WIFI worked fine.

- Great WiFi. - no issues at all.

- The WIFI was quiet poor and we found it hard to work from the room. We tried moving around the hotel for a better signal, but to no avail.

- Wifi was slow at times.

- Internet is very bad. The only bad thing there.

This is why I am asking for the experience from the real people who stayed in the hotel in this forum.

[Steve 9696]

Does anybody stayed in Transamerica Prime International Plaza near ave Paulista?

How was wifi in the hotel?

Also, I found several airbnb apartments in the hotel. Looks like they sell some rooms to private investors.

Go to Booking.com and find that hotel. Then go to the hotel in question and go to the reviews page. There is a WiFi overall rating but you can also Search on WiFi to get specific comments (like was hard to connect to vs weak signal). I've def eliminated some hotels this way.

[Guest19]

Does anybody stayed in Transamerica Prime International Plaza near ave Paulista?

How was wifi in the hotel?

Also, I found several airbnb apartments in the hotel. Looks like they sell some rooms to private investors.

[Fewdie]

Dennis Rodman?

Then I see this impressive, tall, super athletic trans, yes, she was truly impressive, with ultra high heels and miniskirt and I have no shame to say it because of the feminine touch she had. I'm a visual producer and I love exotic beauty. I immediately thought on a fashion portrait ... i know agents who love those faces and looks.
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[Fewdie]

CHATGPT can answer your questions better than us.

I read this thread, there are some details. However I cannot find a write-up that has initiation information. I have a lot of experience in Tijuana and Mexico in general, Africa and Thailand. I did travel to South East Asia extensively for work matters and lived in Japan for some time.

My question is.

What is visiting Brazil like, as a sex tourist?

Can one survive with good Spanish knowledge but 0 ability in Brazilian / Portuguese?

What are the people like, specially those you encounter in the mongering areas, in clubs, etc.

Are they nicely out going and bubbly and welcoming like Mexicans, or proud and distant like the Japanese?

Are they judgmental or inviting specially to foreigners who are there to fack their women for money?

Do they like you fun outgoing while being opinionated or be quiet and polite?

Is tipping customary and is it much appreciated like it is in Mexico?

What is a good amount of tip, to a bar tender, to a door man, to a food server, to a hotel room clean up person?

What are the things frowned upon, e. G alcohol in public and seen too close to drug dealers, / These are issues one has to watch for in Tijuana.

How safe is the mongering areas? I read about gang related violence in Sao Paulo.

Is the mongering activity concentrated around a specific area, or strewn all around town?

Are there specific music / dance / strip clubs known to have women who cater to mongers openly like we have in Thailand and Mexico?

Do these clubs, if they exist, have attached Hotel to take the women up, as conveniently customary in Thai and Mexico's Red light zones?

Are there massage parlous like we have in Colombia which are actually preferred by many mongers who go there, specially now a days.

Is cheating a problem, like giving you a wrong change at Hotel counters and Bars like we have in Tijuana.

Are the Hotels trust worthy, meaning if you reserve it online say Expedia, would they honor that?

I am not going to ask about the women, as I believe they are the same everywhere.

In any case these are the things I wanted to know, initially, as I continue the research about Brazil as a destination.

Regards.

[Rikkit2]

Just a quick review about a fun time I had with Larissa from Fatal Models. On my way out of town, I had a free evening around the GRU airport. Without many options handy (Apice closed at 8 PM), I decided to roll the dice with an escort. After checking out a few options on Fatal Model, I settled on Larissa (https://fatalmodel.com/acompanhante/...a-prado-972332). 31 years old with perky natural breaks, light skin, and an expertise in massage. For 400 BRL plus Ubers she was at my hotel. Gave a great nuru massage and finished well. Definitely recommended if you're looking for something to do before your flight.

[Knowledge]

You can get an eSIM online (saily and others). It's convenient an you don't need to deal with it at the airport after a long flight.

cpfgenerator.net

Will make my first trip to SP soon, and wanted to get more clarity on the local SIM card situation. Having read many of the posts, Knowledge had posted this CPF generator that will provide a number to activate a SIM card and allow the use of public WiFi in places like shopping malls, etc. I've also read that you can go to a TIM store with your passport and they'll be able to fix you up.

Is it best and easiest to get a SIM at GRU? I usually do this at most international airports in the world without a problem, but I ran into problems in Rio a few years ago. I forgot to get set at the airport, and then went to Rio Sul mall after getting settled. The three cell stores I went to told me they couldn't help me since I wasn't a native or something. Very frustrating as none of them spoke English and they turned away and ignored me. Someone back at my hotel told me to go to one of the kiosks and they could fix me up. The kiosk guy had a friend there who spoke English, and they got me set up for cheap after 15 minutes or so.

So, the easiest way to avoid hassles and get set with a local SIM is to use a cell place at GRU and use a CPF generated number? Just trying to get this straight so I can use Uber and Google Maps right away and not feel hassled wasting time and energy. Other newbies are probably curious too. Thanks in advance.