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 Originally Posted by Michael1967
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My last day here. Well, when I woke up this morning, I was done with this place. By now, 3 am on Friday, I might come back. I'll give my final thoughts on this place in another post.
Michael, sorry we missed you and wishing you luck in Peru. T and I enjoyed seeing you in Cartagena last year. We came to the same decision after this trip (leaving tonight), but have no ill feelings about the DR. We simple decided for the pricing other venues offered better options. Stay safe.
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Better than Anticipated
This trip to Sosua proved better than anticipated, but it will be the last for me.
On a positive note, the strip is coming back to life. Chicas. There also seems to be a better variety of females from whom to choose. The last time we visited, Sosua was overpopulated with rather full-figured, particularly in the rear, women full of tattoos and lacking social skills. This time, there was a better variety from all shapes and sizes with no particular group dominating the scene (other than many had tattoos). Many of the waitresses on Sosua beach made it more than obvious they were available after work for a price. One attractive waitress working at spot 66 stated whatever one wanted was no problem. In contrast to the past, this is fairly bold for semi-pros; or perhaps she was a pro with a side job as a server to solicit future clients. Music. The music seems to have returned to Caribbean style, which is a positive, in lieu of an overabundance of American varieties. Videography. Thankfully, far fewer people were recording videos for posting on YouTube and other places on the Internet than in the past. Behaviors. Mongers seemed better control of their behaviors than when things centered around the Ahnvee Hotel.
The neutral. Restaurants. The variety of restaurants proved to be fairly consistent, with nothing standing out, but there are many that we never tried. Though many restaurants closed (like Sinatra's), the replacements in the same locations seemed to offer identical menu options. The fare at Hotel Alecia proved decent and inexpensive for breakfast, but they are only open for breakfast. New Garden offers a safe bet for meals, but is over-priced. Lodging. My travel mate plans to return for two weeks just after the new year. He's been able to talk with a variety of hosts who offer a discount for that period if you talk with them directly in lieu of using the Internet for inquiries. He also prefers a small area to explore prior to booking, one with familiarity. Perla de Sosua offered him a decent rate, but it's not the highest quality. People. We noted many of the people in Sosua remember us from the past, including names. It was impressive how they remember people.
The bad. Prices. The pricing in Sosua significantly increased from the past, and my travel mate and I can eat in the United States or any monger travel destination for the current pricing in Sosua. The same is true for the hotel or AirBnB pricing. The women, well they are always costly, in one way or another, no matter the place. My mate tells me they are trying to negotiate from $150 and the proves consistent with what other mongers stated when eating meals. My travel mate drinks beer and alcohol and indicated pricing for beer in Sosua runs about 350 pesos, or $6. Transportation. Quad runners were everywhere on this trip with mongering drivers who likely never drove one in the past.
So why is this likely the last trip? Other places, such as Colombia, offer a better bang for the buck and more to do. Next stop, Medellin.
Best of luck on your endeavors.
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Yup! Sirs chicas don't give a shit for asking for things even if they don't need it, funny I had a semi reg chica for a part time GF I asked why she did not havev a microwave, Blank stare any way I buy her one I go back to the states, then return a month later I'm at her casa I then ask where's the microw wave? She gave me some half ass escuse it broke and was going to have it repaired by here cousin, WTF these chicas will play you for stuff,
You never said she asked for a microwave. You just said you asked why she did not have one. I think it is foreigners that play themselves when they go to these places and think the locals should live or want to live how they live back home. I do not think I have been in any Dominican homes outside of airbnbs that had microwaves. Half the time the power does not work anyway, so a lot of good that will do. Give them money and let them decide what they need to buy with it.
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Chicas don't give a shit on asking for stuff!
 Originally Posted by Michael1967
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Unless you treat the chicas like shit, then you should never feel bad or embarrassed about what you do for them. I posted part of this story on the Cartegena board, but left of bits because I didn't want to be called a sucker, but when I was in Cartagena last year, I spent a lot of time with a newbie who was a Colombian hippee (people at my Airbnb called her Senorita Loca). When we first met we immediately clicked. We hung out all day had dinner, went dancing until the bars closed. I kept asking her what she wanted and her answer was always whatever you feel right giving me. My thought was, she's running a scam. After she spent the night, I again asked her what she wanted and she said her daughter's birthday was coming up and she really wanted a bicycle. She actually showed me the bicycle and it was like $60. So, I gave her what her I felt another chica would ask for spending the night and having sex with me several times without a condom (after about the third time, it no longer made sense, I'm fixed and if she had an std I would have caught it anyway). Anyway, a few days later I took her to the store and we got her kid the bike and I paid for it. I didn't think much of it, but a couple of weeks after I got home she sent me a video of her daughter riding the bike and thanking me for helping her mother buy it.
It was $60. Filling up my gas tank in Seattle is $70 bucks. A cheap solo dinner alone with drinks is $50 and I eat out every night. $60 meant basically nothing to me but someone's kid had a good birthday because of it. As long as it doesn't hurt me, I'll do what I can. I encourage you to do the same. You can be a giver as well as a taker. Shit, the men in my family all die when they're young. I'm 57, my kids are successful, so they don't need it and I can't take it with me. If it makes someone's life better that is willing to hold still while I pound away on her let her have it.
Yup! Sirs chicas don't give a shit for asking for things even if they don't need it, funny I had a semi reg chica for a part time GF I asked why she did not havev a microwave, Blank stare any way I buy her one I go back to the states, then return a month later I'm at her casa I then ask where's the microw wave? She gave me some half ass escuse it broke and was going to have it repaired by here cousin, WTF these chicas will play you for stuff, even if they don't need it they will sell it or give to other family members, You have to be a cheap bastard and say fuck no! The only way if you buy shit for them is one your married, or living in the samr house with them or in a commited relation ship, let them stay in there lane,! Even then rent a frunishrd apartment for your self, fuck buying or furnishing there whole house! Its in grained in them to ask for stuff shut that right down you got to bbe a bad boy and say no, you have to be respected Sure on super rock stars that have there act together and don't ask for much youm may give them a gift, there are some chicas that are well off and don't need to gringo you, your not going to find them on Pedro cilante! Man there going to try you drum roll please, there going to ask for, cell phones motos refridgerators, hair pieces wigs cars house land money for there family the list goes on don't be that guy!! One old imfamous monger once qutoed if you rent a car why would you buy new tires to put on it (Cuba Dave) Any who shut them down let them stay in there lane!!
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Diving in Sosu
 Originally Posted by Norbert61
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The diving is excellent in Sosua. PM me if you want.
I would never say the diving is excellent in Sosua. It is, at best, thoroughly average, but is something to do in the morning. The Zingara wreck is a very good dive if you can get the dive shop to take you there, it's a bit of a drive (maybe 15 minutes) in the small boats. Last time I tried to dive there we couldn't find the tie-in line and buoy. The airport wall is also OK, just a little farther away.
If you're just a beginner some of the closer dives are ok.
I would NEVER go to Sosua just for the diving. But the p $ssy is still pretty good and I enjoy both activities.
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It's getting warm here, and I'll be making my annual visit back to TO to take visit family and stuff early this year.
My last Sunday, yesterday. Was spent at one of my favorite places, Costambar Beach. What a change in a couple of years. The old beach shack bar / restaurant run by abuela Marina is still there, but now is surrounded by new high end hotels, and restaurants. Marina has sweated slaved over a wood fire for years in the lean-to kitchen at the back, cooking some of the best food to order. , but she's always genuinely happy doing her thing and proud of it. My kind of folks!
If anyone is looking for a really laid back experience you can't beat gated community Constanbar. It's a little off the beaten track, but now here are hotels and restaurant / bars with free pools, free pool tables. No hookers per se, but plenty of local staff and servers who may be available.
And in a pinch Blackbeard's is just a block away from the beach!
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Ahhh I'm a cheap bastard and can't PM lololol. I've definitely done diving across Sosua Bay and the coral / sea life ain't close to Curacao. I may just do a quick day to drop below 60 ft because the experience is my zen shit. I did Dive Cabarete because I knew the instructors there and hooked up with the secretary but everybody has moved on.
Just got in last night and of course I the apps are loaded with 40 hustling profiles split between tinder / bumble. About a third from Puerto Plata / Sosua. Had one gal come over already $20 USD to cover taxi each way along with her fee. Had to hold my ground after she said she needed to pay the babysitter $80 USD for 2-3 hours and asked for her share on top lololol wtf.
This is downside of me staying in Cabarete. I'll live with it. My main goal is decompress from work on a beach with booze and my vape..
Did you try Cheers in Cabarete?
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Ahhh I'm a cheap bastard and can't PM lololol. I've definitely done diving across Sosua Bay and the coral / sea life ain't close to Curacao. I may just do a quick day to drop below 60 ft because the experience is my zen shit. I did Dive Cabarete because I knew the instructors there and hooked up with the secretary but everybody has moved on.
Just got in last night and of course I the apps are loaded with 40 hustling profiles split between tinder / bumble. About a third from Puerto Plata / Sosua. Had one gal come over already $20 USD to cover taxi each way along with her fee. Had to hold my ground after she said she needed to pay the babysitter $80 USD for 2-3 hours and asked for her share on top lololol wtf.
This is downside of me staying in Cabarete. I'll live with it. My main goal is decompress from work on a beach with booze and my vape.
Does anybody have any recs about sports bars? I tried to catch a place to watch the NBA playoffs and none of the spots on the beach gave a fuck. I just need a place to drink and be a fan during this vacation. It be nice to talk trash / shop with other NBA fans too.
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The diving is excellent in Sosua. PM me if you want.
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 Originally Posted by Oakie
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For some, ISG is just a pissing match contest.
A couple of issues still burn into their psyche to this day, like the time I bought a coffee pot for my regular, who's place I used to stay at when in town. That became "a stupid gringo buys kitchen appliance for hoes" LOL.
Another time also years ago, I allowed how I let my regular (7 years at that point) carry my shit when we were out and about. I wear shorts, carry no man bag, and like to travel light, so I give her my wallet, glasses, cigarettes, lighter, phone, charger, keys, a pen, meds and walking around money, for concho fare and stuff she needs from the colmado for kitchen supplies, to carry in that portable safe she calls her bolsa. That became "stupid gringo let's hoes carry his wallet! LOL.
All these years later, they still bring it up, see Mr. E's post here 3 days ago! LOL.
He does the same with OldKool, who made the mistake of letting his female companion share his lunch! Years ago! LOL.
So here's another "confession" for them to cut and paste into their meticulously maintained Gotcha Scrapbooks! I let my partner buy my casual tshirts and shorts in PP. Always a great fit, cool in the heat, and cheap! Recycled too for the Climate Change carers.
Now the dude is bragging about taking his Dominicana hoe to the USA?
You can't make this stuff up!
LOL.
Unless you treat the chicas like shit, then you should never feel bad or embarrassed about what you do for them. I posted part of this story on the Cartegena board, but left of bits because I didn't want to be called a sucker, but when I was in Cartagena last year, I spent a lot of time with a newbie who was a Colombian hippee (people at my Airbnb called her Senorita Loca). When we first met we immediately clicked. We hung out all day had dinner, went dancing until the bars closed. I kept asking her what she wanted and her answer was always whatever you feel right giving me. My thought was, she's running a scam. After she spent the night, I again asked her what she wanted and she said her daughter's birthday was coming up and she really wanted a bicycle. She actually showed me the bicycle and it was like $60. So, I gave her what her I felt another chica would ask for spending the night and having sex with me several times without a condom (after about the third time, it no longer made sense, I'm fixed and if she had an std I would have caught it anyway). Anyway, a few days later I took her to the store and we got her kid the bike and I paid for it. I didn't think much of it, but a couple of weeks after I got home she sent me a video of her daughter riding the bike and thanking me for helping her mother buy it.
It was $60. Filling up my gas tank in Seattle is $70 bucks. A cheap solo dinner alone with drinks is $50 and I eat out every night. $60 meant basically nothing to me but someone's kid had a good birthday because of it. As long as it doesn't hurt me, I'll do what I can. I encourage you to do the same. You can be a giver as well as a taker. Shit, the men in my family all die when they're young. I'm 57, my kids are successful, so they don't need it and I can't take it with me. If it makes someone's life better that is willing to hold still while I pound away on her let her have it.
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 Originally Posted by Michael1967
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It's great to be in Santo Domingo with internet that actually works. I may even get some work done this weekend.
It's funny, but my thought at the time was that it was simply a misunderstanding and we'd have breakfast and I'd take her back and fuck her and everyone would be happy. The photos she showed me were great. She didn't look anything like her photos. She had such a shitty attitude when I met her, that there was no way I was doing anything with her. The result was a filet mignon and (you're going to laugh) another angry text this morning about how I thought she wasn't good enough for me. I didn't read the whole thing. I just blocked her ass. My daughters would be rolling their eyes right now if they saw this, they always tell me that I when I encounter assholes, I always try and make peace with them and then in the end I finally get pissed off and then do exactly what I should have done in the beginning (like tell them to kiss my ass) and I definitely should have just blocked her ass in the first place.
Someone else mentioned that I paid 5000 pesos. I think I may have paid one that when I couldn't remember where I put my wallet and she spent 30 minutes looking for it with me. She was only 4000, I gave her 1000 because I kept her at my place until my wallet was found. With the exception of the one I took to dinner and dancing and drinking, the most I paid on this trip was 4300 (I usually add 300 for the moto so when they ask I tell them them they already have it). As I said, I don't barter, so if you're budget conscious, you can probably do much better. The last one kept asking me what I was willing to pay and when I didn't respond, she said 3000 and I immediately said yes. She then said, "you were going to take me no matter what I say". I said, "yes". I'm sure she was just kicking herself when she left, I got every dollar worth.
First of all, thanks for sharing, and keeping it real!
You're not the first guy to find himself in the middle of our petty flame wars, here on the Sosua Forum. We have lost a lot of good posters over the years!
I don't believe I've ever weighed in about how much a fellow hobbyist pays for his pleasure, or how he gets off. I enjoy honest Reports, the good, bad, and the ugly! LOL. I'm a firm believer in to each his own, but. I will take issue with the posters that denigrate Sosua expats and fellow mongers, as those who have never traveled, who enjoy the "humiliation" of being ripped off because, like battered wives, they just don't know any better!
After 15 years of such posts, it gets a little stale, and needs to be called out, because aside from a couple of posters, nobody wants to bother posting a positive report to see it sliced. Diced, and personally insulted. It's basically killed this board for Sosua fans! And that's a shame!
Why do they keep it up from halfway around the world? That's above my pay scale, but I've seen many who got their superior asses handed to them, by "lowly hoes", and hell hath no fury like a monger scorned!
So enjoy what you do! Take advice from anonymous internet posters with grain of salt, keep a sense of humor about it all, and ignore the critics!
LOL.
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 Originally Posted by Oakie
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Red Alert! LOL.
Why would you spend time arguing and apologizing with a hood rat, that wakes you up with an angry text? Bad choice, number 1. Time to move on.
Now you are doubling down on your first bad choice! Why? What were you trying to prove? You're wasting precious time and money, to feed your Confirmation Bias that she's a hood rat?
No need to get down in the mud, arguing with hood rats, or hustlers. Ever! No point. No minds are ever changed. Complete waste of time and money!
You finally did a course correction and moved on, but waaaay too late, and not until after she left a bad taste in your mouth and a hole in your wallet!
LOL.
Note: Sosua itself didn't actually change in a week, it was your perception that did. If you learned anything from your experience, you might fare better, next time!
Or not!
Sosua is a hit or miss place for casual visitors, but with a little common sense, there's no need for 90% of the "misses". And I remind mongers all the time, the hardest word to say in Sosua is "No".
It's great to be in Santo Domingo with internet that actually works. I may even get some work done this weekend.
It's funny, but my thought at the time was that it was simply a misunderstanding and we'd have breakfast and I'd take her back and fuck her and everyone would be happy. The photos she showed me were great. She didn't look anything like her photos. She had such a shitty attitude when I met her, that there was no way I was doing anything with her. The result was a filet mignon and (you're going to laugh) another angry text this morning about how I thought she wasn't good enough for me. I didn't read the whole thing. I just blocked her ass. My daughters would be rolling their eyes right now if they saw this, they always tell me that I when I encounter assholes, I always try and make peace with them and then in the end I finally get pissed off and then do exactly what I should have done in the beginning (like tell them to kiss my ass) and I definitely should have just blocked her ass in the first place.
Someone else mentioned that I paid 5000 pesos. I think I may have paid one that when I couldn't remember where I put my wallet and she spent 30 minutes looking for it with me. She was only 4000, I gave her 1000 because I kept her at my place until my wallet was found. With the exception of the one I took to dinner and dancing and drinking, the most I paid on this trip was 4300 (I usually add 300 for the moto so when they ask I tell them them they already have it). As I said, I don't barter, so if you're budget conscious, you can probably do much better. The last one kept asking me what I was willing to pay and when I didn't respond, she said 3000 and I immediately said yes. She then said, "you were going to take me no matter what I say". I said, "yes". I'm sure she was just kicking herself when she left, I got every dollar worth.
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 Originally Posted by MwenByen
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I never could understand how some guys would come on a sex tourism website and brag only about how they are getting free pussy in area notorious for prostitution. For most that's the only thing they blog about.
For some, ISG is just a pissing match contest.
I'm still on moderation from 10 years ago when I was excoriated by the few negative nabobs that used to control the Sosua Forum, for saying anything nice about Sosua, or the locals.
A couple of issues still burn into their psyche to this day, like the time I bought a coffee pot for my regular, who's place I used to stay at when in town. That became "a stupid gringo buys kitchen appliance for hoes" LOL.
Another time also years ago, I allowed how I let my regular (7 years at that point) carry my shit when we were out and about. I wear shorts, carry no man bag, and like to travel light, so I give her my wallet, glasses, cigarettes, lighter, phone, charger, keys, a pen, meds and walking around money, for concho fare and stuff she needs from the colmado for kitchen supplies, to carry in that portable safe she calls her bolsa. That became "stupid gringo let's hoes carry his wallet! LOL.
All these years later, they still bring it up, see Mr. E's post here 3 days ago! LOL.
He does the same with OldKool, who made the mistake of letting his female companion share his lunch! Years ago! LOL.
So here's another "confession" for them to cut and paste into their meticulously maintained Gotcha Scrapbooks! I let my partner buy my casual tshirts and shorts in PP. Always a great fit, cool in the heat, and cheap! Recycled too for the Climate Change carers.
Now the dude is bragging about taking his Dominicana hoe to the USA?
You can't make this stuff up!
LOL.
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 Originally Posted by Rccola10
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Oakie-.
Is the diving decent in Sosua? Who do you go with?/ decent spots? My last couple trips I went with Dive Cabarete and it wasn't much to see. I'm debating about saving my money to drink / chill on the beach while chasing tail.
The diving is excellent in Sosua. PM me if you want.
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 Originally Posted by Michael1967
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My last day here. Well, when I woke up this morning, I was done with this place. By now, 3 am on Friday, I might come back. I'll give my final thoughts on this place in another post. In the last few days, I spoke to a couple of people that were here that basically grew up in the ghetto like me. Though I'm not quoting either of them, they both pretty much summed up Sosua. They basically said that Sosua is the ghetto we grew up in. Though many of us have left the hood, we always come back to what we know.
That actually hit home for me. I'm not rich, but I make a decent amount of money. I always feel like a sell out and spend probably more time than I should doing things to not feel like a sell out. Sosua is everything that I spent my entire existence trying to get away from, and here I am, back again. It really does remind me of East 14th Street in Oakland when I was growing except the women are better looking and I don't have to dodge bullets. I think I've outgrown this place and this may be it for me. The person I spoke to yesterday basically said, "youve moved past this, why are you going backwards. There are classier places to get laid.
Anyway, on to fucking. Woke up this morning to a nasty text from someone that was angry because she spoke to me on the street and I ignored her. She said I made her look like an idiot in front of her friends. I apologized and invited her to breakfast with me. I explained that I didn't mean to be rude, but I am harassed all day, I just tune everyone out. So, we go to breakfast and she immediately asks for the dinner menu and orders filet mignon. I wasn't surprised because, well that's what a hood rat would do. I also wasn't surprised when she took two bites and then said she was full; that's what hood rats do. I was surprised when I saw she had put a picture of the food on social media and added the caption "I always win" to it. Yes, I guess if winning is sucking some random stranger's sweaty dick, then yes, she won..
Good luck in Peru. Food's excellent- incredible mountains. The girls? - well I think with a little lipstick I could be Miss Peru.
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 Originally Posted by Michael1967
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I spoke to a couple of people that were here that basically grew up in the ghetto like me. Though I'm not quoting either of them, they both pretty much summed up Sosua. They basically said that Sosua is the ghetto we grew up in. Though many of us have left the hood, we always come back to what we know.
That actually hit home for me. Sosua is everything that I spent my entire existence trying to get away from, and here I am, back again. I think I've outgrown this place and this may be it for me. The person I spoke to yesterday basically said, "youve moved past this, why are you going backwards. There are classier places to get laid.
Let's see if you get as much ridicule as me for saying the same thing in different terms. I always say it is like battered spouse syndrome. Folks always have an excuse why they will not leave the abuse. People also like being a big fish in a small pond. They would stay in 7th grade until they were 20 years old if you let them.
 Originally Posted by Michael1967
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So, we go to breakfast and she immediately asks for the dinner menu and orders filet mignon. I wasn't surprised because, well that's what a hood rat would do. I also wasn't surprised when she took two bites and then said she was full; that's what hood rats do. I was surprised when I saw she had put a picture of the food on social media and added the caption "I always win" to it.
That is what casting pearls among swine get you. And people talk about some interview process. Who goes to an interview and just starts wilding out (except this chick)? Most of those hoes are dumb, but they are not stupid.
One time me and Gogo went to a strip club in the States. I immediately tried to bargain with the chick to fuck. She talking about get some dances first and talk about it later. I told her that I was only going to spend so much money to begin with and I did not plan on wasting any of it on dances. The same as I do not plan on paying a Sosua hooker to fuck as much as it would cost me to take them to a restaurant to eat steak.
 Originally Posted by Michael1967
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Anyway, I paid her an undisclosed sum of money for dinner, dancing and sex (some people here would be pissed at what I gave her) and (of course) she ask for 500 pesos more for a taxi.
Said in my last trip report that no matter how much you give them, they are still going to ask for more. I gave a chick 2000 for all night asked for more. I think you said you gave a chick 5000 for whatever time and she asked for more. It don't even matter. Best to do like Grown Man and bargain for low with the promise of additional if they do a good job. That way the asking for more is already factored in.
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