Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Captain Solo]

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[Sol12]

I gave you enough information about the sources without saying it openly.

The girls are afraid they may get beat up or killed for disclosing details. A few independently confirmed the coming tax. Wonder when the cartel will start taxing bar girls and escorts.

In Cabo for about the last 10 years the Jalisco cartel has firm control over the escort business. Girls have to follow strict rules re tax, prices, services, schedules. Quite a few could not live with all the rules and just quit.

You give no information on sources and like I said you just believe what someone tells you and you have no idea how to really investigate anything.

But keep living in your fantasy world where you have better information than the local media because some SG is going to trust you more. Do you remember last year when the SG were protesting about the new police chief. Do you don't think they would band together and protest against some extortion from the Cartel. You lack common sense.

So now you're out think you know anything about Cabo also. LOL.

[Captain Solo]

I gave you enough information about the sources without saying it openly.

The girls are afraid they may get beat up or killed for disclosing details. A few independently confirmed the coming tax. Wonder when the cartel will start taxing bar girls and escorts.

In Cabo for about the last 10 years the Jalisco cartel has firm control over the escort business. Girls have to follow strict rules re tax, prices, services, schedules. Quite a few could not live with all the rules and just quit.

[Sol12]

Just a side note. I had heard a couple months ago that tohn the Caliente owner had bought the place. So don't know if that means anything as far as the mayor. Maybe that's what helped it to reopen. But recently heard from a tropical manager as he was telling me about the recent shooting. That Rohn is leasing the place from the HK group.

Well that seems to make some sense from the different reports I read. When I first read about the attack I noticed in some pictures of the place they had a large banner above the bar that read "Nueva Administracióand Próximamente". So they had done something to be able to reopen. Also in one of the articles they wrote about it but it didn't mention that it was new ownership just new management so that might be more to HK leasing it to Rohn.

The day after the mayor was very frustrated with the place and basically calling for it to be closed because it's a "generator of violence ". Which is unfair IMO to the owners because they can't control the crimes that have happened. I've seen other bars in Centro that have had multiple shootings and they were never closed.

[Enter The V]

That area is 5 miles South of the border, run down, heavy traffic, known gangland.

The bar is sleazy, plays Mexican music, some nights with live bands. Women at see the P are known older, chunky, heavy, not attractive to North American tastes.

It will reopen fairly soon, good for a bad taste of an authentic Mexican pussy bar, but why bother skipping La Zona Norte with much better safety, selection of girls, food and entertainment and convenience.

Zona Norte is Gangland even more so.

[Baxter Slade]

First off most of Tijuana is run down and has heavy traffic. Also it's more of an industrial area and isn't a known gangland as you described. But I imagine you could claim all of Tijuana as known gangland as you call it but only certain areas are real problems.

The bar is sleazy? So tell me when you visited and what makes it sleazy compared to any other bar? When I visited many years ago it actually had some good young talent similar to what you find at Tropical just girls that are not money hungry. Locals go to this place to be away from the tourists of Zona Norte.

From what the mayor has said I don't think it will open anytime soon. He had already had it closed for over 4 months so this time might be longer.

Just a side note. I had heard a couple months ago that tohn the Caliente owner had bought the place. So don't know if that means anything as far as the mayor. Maybe that's what helped it to reopen. But recently heard from a tropical manager as he was telling me about the recent shooting. That Rohn is leasing the place from the HK group.

[Enter The V]

First off most of Tijuana is run down and has heavy traffic. Also it's more of an industrial area and isn't a known gangland as you described. But I imagine you could claim all of Tijuana as known gangland as you call it but only certain areas are real problems.

The bar is sleazy? So tell me when you visited and what makes it sleazy compared to any other bar? When I visited many years ago it actually had some good young talent similar to what you find at Tropical just girls that are not money hungry. Locals go to this place to be away from the tourists of Zona Norte.

From what the mayor has said I don't think it will open anytime soon. He had already had it closed for over 4 months so this time might be longer.

Is el Sinaloense open? I know Nachos bar closed along time ago.

[Sol12]

That area is 5 miles South of the border, run down, heavy traffic, known gangland.

The bar is sleazy, plays Mexican music, some nights with live bands. Women at see the P are known older, chunky, heavy, not attractive to North American tastes.

It will reopen fairly soon, good for a bad taste of an authentic Mexican pussy bar, but why bother skipping La Zona Norte with much better safety, selection of girls, food and entertainment and convenience.

First off most of Tijuana is run down and has heavy traffic. Also it's more of an industrial area and isn't a known gangland as you described. But I imagine you could claim all of Tijuana as known gangland as you call it but only certain areas are real problems.

The bar is sleazy? So tell me when you visited and what makes it sleazy compared to any other bar? When I visited many years ago it actually had some good young talent similar to what you find at Tropical just girls that are not money hungry. Locals go to this place to be away from the tourists of Zona Norte.

From what the mayor has said I don't think it will open anytime soon. He had already had it closed for over 4 months so this time might be longer.

[Sol12]

Independently confirmed by multiple sources, street girls will be taxed US $250 a month starting June 2025 by an unnamed cartel. Street girls are fearful for their lives so they would not disclose more details.

$250 is the equivalent of 10 street sessions. The average street girls would do 5 sessions a day out of 20 days a month. Many don't even book a session but they would still have to pay. So the average tax rate is about 10%. Cartels have been taxing all food stalls and street vendors, so it's just their expansion. A few street girls said they may not return to work in Tijuana with this tax.

2 new guys are selling loudly and aggressively in the alley, signs that a new cartel has taken over the territory with new ways of working.

Not sure what you consider independent sources but with your history of just believing whatever someone tells you without actually doing any investigation I would be very skeptical of this information.

[Captain Solo]

That area is 5 miles South of the border, run down, heavy traffic, known gangland.

The bar is sleazy, plays Mexican music, some nights with live bands. Women at see the P are known older, chunky, heavy, not attractive to North American tastes.

It will reopen fairly soon, good for a bad taste of an authentic Mexican pussy bar, but why bother skipping La Zona Norte with much better safety, selection of girls, food and entertainment and convenience.

[Captain Solo]

Independently confirmed by multiple sources, street girls will be taxed US $250 a month starting June 2025 by an unnamed cartel. Street girls are fearful for their lives so they would not disclose more details.

$250 is the equivalent of 10 street sessions. The average street girls would do 5 sessions a day out of 20 days a month. Many don't even book a session but they would still have to pay. So the average tax rate is about 10%. Cartels have been taxing all food stalls and street vendors, so it's just their expansion. A few street girls said they may not return to work in Tijuana with this tax.

2 new guys are selling loudly and aggressively in the alley, signs that a new cartel has taken over the territory with new ways of working.

[Captain Solo]

El Chapo's family flew into Tijuana then crossed into US. They need protection if El Chapo and his sons sing out against other cartels' chiefs. US will have intels to further destroy drug cartels in Mexico.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/14/w...po-family.html

Cartel Family Members Cross Border in Apparent Deal With USA, Official Says.

Mexico's security secretary confirmed reports that 17 family members of Sinaloa Cartel leaders had entered the United States, likely as part of a deal with the Trump administration.

By Alan Yuhas May 14, 2025.

A group of family members of Sinaloa Cartel leaders crossed into the United States last week, likely as part of a deal with the Trump administration, Mexico's secretary of security said on Tuesday evening.

For days, rumors had spread that 17 relatives, including one of the ex-wives of the crime boss known as El Chapo, had flown from a cartel stronghold to Tijuana, Mexico, and then crossed into the United States. A news outlet, Pie de Nota, reported that they had surrendered to USA Federal authorities there, citing anonymous sources.

The Sinaloa Cartel, co-founded by Joaquían Guzmán Loera, known as El Chapo, is one of the most powerful criminal groups in the world, although it has been divided by violence between rival factions as several of its leaders face prison and prosecution in the United States.

When asked about reports that the family members had entered the United States on Monday, President Claudia Sheinbaum of Mexico said "there is no more information" than what she had seen.

But the security secretary, Omar García Harfuch, then confirmed late Tuesday that relatives of the cartel leader Ovidio Guzmán López, one of El Chapo's four sons, had surrendered to American authorities. Mr. Guzmán López was extradited to the United States in 2023.

"It is evident that his family is going to the USA Because of a negotiation or a plea bargain that the Department of Justice is giving him," Mr. García Harfuch told the Mexican network Radio Fórmula.

"The family that left were not targets and were not being sought by the Mexican authorities," he added. Mexican officials were waiting for the USA Department of Justice to share information, he said.

He said that he believed Mr. GuzmánLópez was naming members of criminal organizations, likely as part of a cooperation agreement.

Jeffrey Lichtman, a lawyer who has represented the elder Mr. Guzman and his sons, did not respond to several messages seeking comment.

Ms. Sheinbaum told reporters on Wednesday morning that USA Officials "have to inform" their Mexican counterparts whether there was an agreement or not, urging transparency with both the American public and Mexicans, and noting that Mexican soldiers had died in the operation to capture Mr. Guzmán Lopez.

Ovidio Guzmán López plans to plead guilty to federal drug charges, according to court papers, in what would make him the first of El Chapo's sons, often called LOS Chapitos, to acknowledge guilt in a USA Federal courthouse.

Mr. Guzmáand López was twice captured by the Mexican authorities over the last decade. He was first detained, briefly, in 2019, until his own gunmen engaged in a bloody battle with the Mexican military in the city of Culiacán and forced his release.

Then he was arrested by Mexican security forces in 2023 in that same city and quickly extradited to the United States. Along with a full brother, two half brothers and one of his father's former business partners, Mr. Guzmáand López was named in a sprawling indictment.

His full brother, Joaquíand Guzmán López, has also been in negotiations with federal authorities in Chicago to reach his own plea deal.

Ever since their father, El Chapo, was sentenced to life in prison by a USA Federal judge in 2019, the American authorities have turned their sights on his four sons. Federal investigators opened a quiet back channel to the sons, making clear to them that if they ever grew tired of the dangerous narco-trafficking life, they could turn themselves in at any time.

Joaquíand Guzmán López, using the back channel, kidnapped his father's former business partner, Ismael Zambada Garcia, in Mexico this summer and forcibly flew him across the border into USA Custody.

The security secretary stressed the Mexican role in Ovidio Guzmán López's case, saying, "Ovidio was detained 100 percent by the Mexican authorities. "

The security minister's confirmation came the same day that the USA Department of Justice announced new charges against men accused of being Sinaloa Cartel leaders, the first since President Trump designated it a terrorist organization. Those charges include narco-terrorism, drug trafficking and money laundering.

In announcing the charges, the USA Attorney for the Southern District of California, Adam Gordon, directly addressed cartel leaders in a news conference, telling them they would be "betrayed by your friends" and "hounded by your enemies. "

The movement of the family members to the United States — and the speculation that it could mean a plea agreement with the USA Government — has fueled high-profile discussion in Mexico about who might be implicated by imprisoned cartel leaders.

"The Chapitos are going to sing, and we're going to learn many things," Senator Ricardo Anaya, an opposition lawmaker, told reporters this week. "Because the North American government doesn't offer immunity in exchange for nothing, they offer it in exchange for information."

Alan Feuer, Emiliano Rodríguez Mega and James Wagner contributed reporting.

[OPIllini]

Cueva del Peludo is HK's owner headquarter. Have no idea victims were HK's workers or mongers.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJtRR68R...M1MGJkZA%3D%3D

BAL-EAN AA 5 PEOPLE IN A BAR IN #tijuana.

Tonight they were attacked with bullets in the parking lot of the Bar "La Cueva del Peludo" which is located on the Diaz Ordaz boulevard in the La Mesa neighborhood.

The injured were transported in ambulances; to different hospitals for treatment.

The police are already on the scene.

I'd imagine they'll be closed for some time. No wonder I couldn't access their website this week. Was thinking of going there, but now definitely won't.

[Captain Solo]

Cueva del Peludo is HK's owner headquarter. Have no idea victims were HK's workers or mongers.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJtRR68R...M1MGJkZA%3D%3D

BAL-EAN AA 5 PEOPLE IN A BAR IN #tijuana.

Tonight they were attacked with bullets in the parking lot of the Bar "La Cueva del Peludo" which is located on the Diaz Ordaz boulevard in the La Mesa neighborhood.

The injured were transported in ambulances; to different hospitals for treatment.

The police are already on the scene.

[Captain Solo]

Very sad circumstance. Anybody know Tiffany Gabriela AKA Aylin of Hong Kong?

https://www.instagram.com/p/DI5BvgDp...M1MGJkZA%3D%3D

Tiffany Gabriela, 24, is the young woman who was found in a state of putrefaction.

The young woman, originally from Monterrey, Nuevo León, has already been identified. She was working in the city of Tijuana.

She was a dancer at the famous Hon Kong bar in the north zone, the same bar that was two blocks from the apartment where she was found dead.

The prosecutor's office began the investigation to clarify her death.

Because neighbors indicated that in the last two weeks they heard screams and fights inside that apartment, which Aylin's partner routinely entered.