American Politics

[Elvis 2008]

Oh lookie here! Trump is now recommending that Walmart "eat" all those 100's of Billions of dollars China is GIVING America with his Trump Tariffs Taxes on the American Consumer.

Ah yes, classic Democrat logic. Trump wants to fund part of the deficit reduction with tariffs. I wish it were hundreds of billions. So Trump tells Walmart to not charge more when the tariffs kick in. What he means is do not use the tariffs as an excuse to massively raise prices and blame him.

Meanwhile, we have Spidy going on about billionaire greed. Last I check the biggest holder of Walmart stock was the Walton family made up of several billionaires. So Trump tells Walmart to not screw over consumers and enrich the Walton billionaires, and you are condemning it? We all know that no matter what Trump says or does you are going to condemn it. It is all Dem good, Republican bad.

Now, seriously, how hilarious is it that The Worst Economic Results Since Herbert Hoover

This is just a pure lie.

President Joe Biden not immediately remembering the year one of his sons died is triggering nation-wide pearl clutching?

Less that 10 years after the fact I could not have told you which year my mother or father died. As important as events like that are in our lives I doubt many of us mark the exact year in our memory banks in order to recall and commemorate each of them year after year. We move on. And a president typically commemorates a thousand mortal events every year anyway.

Yeah, well, we just heard this news, https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whi...r-announcement.

President Donald Trump remains confident in White House doctors despite the possibility that they missed a prostate cancer diagnosis for former President Joe Biden while he was in office, the White House says. Speculation has exploded in the days since Biden announced he has stage 4 metastatic prostate cancer this weekend, a diagnosis that typically takes years to develop.

Let me clue you in on something, Tooms. There is no fucking way the White House doctors missed this diagnosis. They covered it up along with Biden's mental decline.

As for your comparing yourself mentally to Biden, I agree that it is possible that you are just as demented as he is.

The issue with Biden is not forgetting one fact about his son. It is that he could not recall the dates on anything. We all know that all you Democrats care about is power. Hell, you do not care that the person calling the shots in a Biden presidency was not Biden himself. You would violate the rule of law and vote for the corpse of Biden if you could over any Republican. That he is dead or brain dead does not matter to you. All you care about is that your government checks keep flowing.

And deep down, we all know that you Democratic douches wanted Trump assassinated and dead. You do that when you call him the Fuhrer and Republicans Nazis.

For those of who care about Democracy, the question to us is who was really running things with Biden so out to lunch? The first thing that happens when a will is contested is you look at if the person signing the will was mentally competent. That often is a question of relying on the testimony of medical professionals, and their credibility has just taken a huge hit.

I agree with not prosecuting Biden. You cannot get past the burden of reasonable doubt with a guy that demented. However, if he cannot stand trial due to mental incompetence, why the hell are his pardons legal? In fact, legally speaking, everything Biden has done now could comes under scrutiny.

Not only was there this mental decline with Biden, he was walking around with Stage 4 cancer, and you Democratic douches are so stupid you keep going on about how sharp he was and making excuses for him. That is why I keep calling you Democratic douches. You do not have one objective cell in your bodies.

Meanwhile, you cannot help yourself demonizing Trump, yet there is no doubt in anyone's mind that he is the one calling the shots is there? Maybe some day you will get the importance of that.

[Elvis 2008]

Yes, I admit that the Chinese credit system is opaque but seriously Elvis to make the claim that the American is in a better position than China on debt is laughable. Have you completely forgotten the financial crisis of 2008? America is still reeling from that and as I explained to you earlier this, the money printing here (QE), during COVID and your multiple wars constitute a substantial portion of the national debt (or at least when QT occurs).

Dude, you just blew off the entire Chinese credit issue outside of agreeing with me. You then list all the problems the USA had and blow off all the issues China has. American banks were forced to write down real estate in 2008 and 2009. China HAS NOT DONE THAT WRITE DOWN. You have missed China printed like crazy with Covid and has done so in this recent trade war as well.

But you can't increase your savings unless you reduce your consumption or increase your production.

That assumes 0% return on your savings rate, which it is not, and that makes your analysis meaningless.

So your solution is straightforward. You either increase your savings, or reduce your investment (latter not ideal).

And what about underlying assets and asset appreciation? That is nowhere to be found either. There is no discussion on rule of law and property protection either. What good are savings when the government can take them whenever they want?

These two paragraphs completely blow your argument out of the water, https://www.hinrichfoundation.com/re...umption-slump/.

In the case of China "property income" for the household sector in 2019 and 2020 was around 4. 5% of GDP, and closer to 3% of GDP on a net basis. In contrast, in the US, this number was about 15% of GDP. This reflects the higher returns on US financial and real assets. It is worth considering here the penchant China's middle class has for sitting on vacant apartments and the amount of household net worth tied up in such vacant property; the low dividend payout ratios for listed Chinese companies; and, perhaps most importantly, the low bank interest rates paid to depositors and the lack of alternative avenues for revenue generation.

In other words, China's high savings suffer from financial repression: capital controls force them to maintain their savings onshore and a state-owned financial intermediation industry pays them a poor return on their savings. This in turn reduces household income and therefore curtails their ability to spend. The Chinese saver has therefore been made by policy to finance huge government-driven investments, which are earning increasingly low returns.

Trump's batshit idea is that somehow you're going to get all these companies producing your Iphones and laptops and consumer goods to somehow onshore and increase capacity when you have neither the manpower or skills or capacity or resources and even if you did it would result in a much higher cost or a much lower wage.

Trump was just accelerating a trend of moving some production away from China to the USA that was happening post-Covid. Your analysis is entirely cost driven and does not account for the reliability of a supply chain. That is why the supply chain is and was moving out of China even before Trump, and it never was all going to the USA.

You are seriously underestimating China.

When you explain to me to property rights, the credit system, the real debt China has, the real estate market, how China restricts trading in foreign currencies, and the demographic decline, get back to me. There is nothing new you are bringing to the table. I heard the same shit about Japan in the early 80's and 90's and have heard the gold bug shit about America's decline for decades as well. Japan was a way more formidable competitor than China ever was, and you have not explained why the projections about Japan taking over the world were wrong. Your opinion does not matter to me because it is not based on facts but a bunch of half-truths. All you do is list all the problems the USA has and ignore all the ones China has.

[SubCmdr]

As someone who lives the lifestyle discussed on this board, embracing Donald trump, project 2025, and Christian nationalists is certainly not in your best interest. A bill was just introduced to outlaw all pornography Nationwide. Christian nationalists are not your friend dude. Just waiting for the bill to make it a criminal act for Americans to engage in paid sex overseas. Look what both sides have done did the hobby in the United States. You can say what you want about gay and trans people, but they tend to be far more libertine September than work feminists or Christian Nationals. And I think the Christian nationalists have much more pull when it comes to legislation.

Who can we thank for this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act

If you are going to fly a woman to the USA, make sure you check out the Mann Act.It is best that you do not use your credit card for a purchase. Use a gift card without your name on it and try to make it seem like the woman is flying to the USA for a reason other than to see you if she is asked. I had a woman flown in from Mexico who dressed provocatively and customs gave her a horribly hard time. When I finally met her, she was balling her eyes out, and she had been to the USA before. There has been a huge emphasis on so called "trafficking" and LE has used the Mann Act in some pretty fucked up ways in the past.

[HotDog666]

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[HotDog666]

Yeah, I have been listening to this since I heard people hawking gold. I think you are confusing money printing with credit. When the USA government gives people a dollar, it is as a loan via treasury bills and notes. If the USA prints up too many dollars, people demand a higher interest rate, and the government has to pay. It is not a free lunch as the gold bugs promote.

And the creation of money is not just at the hands of the government. Anyone who gives someone else credit is creating money. The worse the risk, the higher the rate is. In short, money creation is limited by the faith of the lender. If the lender does not have faith he will be paid back, money creation dries up.

When I went to a shareholder meeting of a Venezuelan telephone company, I heard Venezuelan after Venezuelan talk about fucking over Verizon which owned 25% of the company by breaking their own laws. Verizon (which was GTE) literally laid down all the phone lines in that country. When I heard that, I knew that Venezuela, which at the time had the largest proven oil reserves in the world, was done for a generation. Until Venezuelans respect lenders, they will be poor.

When I went to American banks to get a mortgage to buy land in Latin America, they would not lend me the money. They would do a personal loan but not a mortgage. Yet real estate prices in Latin countries went through the roof. I was in Paraguay and a decent house was $300,000. I was like who in Paraguay has that kind of cash? That is a price to income ratio of 50! What was happening is European banks particularly French ones were doing the lending and unlike American banks, they have not taken their haircuts. A lot of the reason the USA gets flak is our honesty with the numbers (well, before Biden anyway).

Right now, Greece, remember them, has lower interest rates than the USA. Now do you think that is because they are a better credit risk or they are hiding their debt? A free market is based on honesty, and the Greeks have never been honest.

When I went to Latin countries and asked why they were so poor, the reason I was given was corruption. That implies it is government and not the fault of the people though. What I saw by going to Venezuela is Hugo Chavez and his stealing was a symptom and not the cause of the issue. The problem was and is the Venezuelan citizens absolutely disdain for the rights of lenders and so no one wants to extend them credit. The corruption part is the government not sticking up for lenders.

So when you talk about the "free market" and China, what are you talking about? What is the credit system in China? Is it open? Is there transparency? Would you loan money to China and if so, how would you assess the risk and the interest rate you should be paid? And with what would you want to be paid back your interest?

One of Warren Buffett's sayings is "Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked". What that means is if the French banks keep on their books that the homes in their Paraguayan real estate portfolio are valued at $300,000 apiece, everything is fine. Only when they are forced to liquidate the asset or the government demands a realistic valuation is when the tide goes out.

And banks are not like other businesses. If they lever up 10:1, then a 10% reduction in asset prices renders them insolvent. So for all your disdain for the American system and how flawed it is, be honest. You have no clue how the Chinese credit system operates. And you know how I know? Because if you did, there is no way in hell you would be pushing China over the USA.

Yes, I admit that the Chinese credit system is opaque but seriously Elvis to make the claim that the American is in a better position than China on debt is laughable. Have you completely forgotten the financial crisis of 2008? America is still reeling from that and as I explained to you earlier this, the money printing here (QE), during COVID and your multiple wars constitute a substantial portion of the national debt (or at least when QT occurs). There are no free lunches.

We can debate who's debt is a bigger issue. Let's resort to some facts. https://www.fidelityinternational.co...r-e1feea-en5/. So it is in a bad place, as I already acknowledged. Meanwhile, the US national debt alone is 125% of GDP. Add on household debt and that's another 60%+ of GDP https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicato...of-nominal-gdp#text=United%20 States%20 Household%20 Debt%3 A%20%25%20 of%20 GDP,-1999%20%2 D%202024%20%7 C%20 Quarterly&text=United%20 States%20 household%20 debt%20 accounted, Mar%201999%20 to%20 Dec%202024.

And then there's corporate debt etc.

Here's the thing. China is a net saver. They have a huge amount of savings offsetting the debt. In fact they save way too much. https://www.ft.com/content/cc40794b-...a-4b10b12b6ff5.

They comprised around 28% of the entire world's savings last year. Please look back to my conversation with Tiny to see the relevance of this, and let me summarise it simply. The difference between a country's production and its consumption is its savings. The difference between the country's savings rates and its investments is its current account (and this is not synonymous with its trade balance as many people mistakenly believe). So these 4 concepts underpin the American issue: Production, consumption, savings, investment. The savings. Investment deficit needs to be financed and that is through a current account deficit. That's it. So your solution is straightforward. You either increase your savings, or reduce your investment (latter not ideal). But you can't increase your savings unless you reduce your consumption or increase your production. Trump's batshit idea is that somehow you're going to get all these companies producing your Iphones and laptops and consumer goods to somehow onshore and increase capacity when you have neither the manpower or skills or capacity or resources and even if you did it would result in a much higher cost or a much lower wage. As for you're going to "automate it"- right LOL, the Chinese don't know about automation already right? They make the west look so 20th century.

So production cannot increase massively, meaning your consumption has to go down. I don't know why you would argue with me here as it seems to be what you're endorsing with regards to the public sector. I however think you're a little too fixated on sweating the small stuff and not enough on the big picture which as I said is healthcare and defence. Maybe being Israel's lapdog is not in your interest?

Anyway, the bottom line remains- you are seriously underestimating China. I have explained before their psyche- they will not let them be humiliated again. They will play the long game, and it may not be 5 years but 10 before they get military supremacy over America where it matters. America cannot afford to continue to outspend them. And even if it does, they'll make a better product. Be it a plane or a train- at half the cost, as they showed the world recently in destroying the French Rafael's with their J-10's. The best days of America are behind it.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Yes, both of them were right about everything. LOL.

Lololololololololololol.

[EihTooms]

What we have here is another in a seemingly never-ending series of Trump Bowel Evacuations, not even rising to the nutitional level of a Word Salad.

And every other World Leader and serious Business Leader knew it:

Trump Rambles About Ukraine, Drones, Trees, Duffy, Biden, Buttigieg and Bicycles In Less Than a Minute

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJrSR...Zxd2gzb3dpZQ==

[EihTooms]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6qzYdGwQBY

Please God Please.

Harris and AOC LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Yes, both of them were right about everything. LOL.

[EihTooms]

Yeah, no shit. That is because you Democratic douches and the lame stream media keep going on and on about tariffs and inflation lying your asses off.

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-f...ion-dissonance

Having embarrassed themselves with their TDS-driven cognitive dissonance over the past few months, Democrat-voting UMich respondents (and women, and low income Americans) in the preliminary May survey (a month after Liberation Day and also post-Pause and the massive meltup in stocks) turned the TDS-terror dial to '11'.

Consumer Expectations are now at their lowest since. Drum roll please. May 1980.

Tariffs were spontaneously mentioned by nearly three-quarters of consumers, up from almost 60% in April; uncertainty over trade policy continues to dominate consumers' thinking about the economy.

(I bet most consumers have no fucking clue what % the tariffs even are).

Year-ahead inflation expectations surged from 6. 7% last month to 7. 3% this month, the highest reading since 1981 and marking five consecutive months of unusually large increases of 0. 5 percentage points or more.

Long-run inflation expectations climbed from 4. 4% in April to 4. 6% in May, reflecting a particularly large jump among Democrats to a ridiculous 9. 6% over the next year!!

Finally, given their historic track record (completely refusing to acknowledge the surge in inflation under Biden), should we simply be ignoring the manic Democrats screaming about inflation now?

Sorry, one more that made us fucking laugh. One-third of women surveyed believe inflation over the next year will be 15% or higher.

So someone is lying: actual spending all time high while reported sentiment (based on 250 polled UMich respondents) is all time low.

Perhaps that explains why soft survey data has started to turn back up to hard data reality in the last week as it's hard to hate and keep pushing out your depression-era forecasts when stocks are at record highs and jobless claims remain near record lows.

End of link.

PPI which front runs the consumer price index was down 0. 4% in March and 0. 5% in April, and yet we have these crazy Democratic douche female loons predicting 15% inflation. Jesus, you cannot make this shit up. At least Wall Street has figured it out and the market has rallied.

The lies being told are just unfucking believable.

Oh lookie here! Trump is now recommending that Walmart "eat" all those 100's of Billions of dollars China is GIVING America with his Trump Tariffs Taxes on the American Consumer.

Trump tells Walmart to 'eat the tariffs' after retailer warned of higher prices.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/17/trum...ndroidappshare

But but but how then will ordinary Americans get ALL of their needs and wants paid for by China "paying" those Trump Tariffs if Walmart eats them?

See, once "eaten" there will not be any of that Chinese money to pay for Childcare because Childcare is Childcare and groceries, god I'm glad Trump invented that word.

LOL. Now, seriously, how hilarious is it that The Worst Economic Results Since Herbert Hoover so-called president Donald Trump's months and months if not years and years long blitheringly incoherent blather about Who Pays Tariffs is shrugged off as perfectly acceptable while One Of The Greatest Economic Records Of All Time President Joe Biden not immediately remembering the year one of his sons died is triggering nation-wide pearl clutching?

Less that 10 years after the fact I could not have told you which year my mother or father died. As important as events like that are in our lives I doubt many of us mark the exact year in our memory banks in order to recall and commemorate each of them year after year. We move on. And a president typically commemorates a thousand mortal events every year anyway.

Trump has already forgotten he took the Oath of Office to uphold the Constitution of the United States. And that was barely 115 days ago.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Kamala Harris Would Beat Donald Trump if Election Held Again: Poll
May 15, 2025

https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harr...y-poll-2072730

115 days of a "honeymoon" with this historically disastrous Trump's Pandemic Part 2 term is more than enough for the overwhelming majority of Americans to stomach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6qzYdGwQBY

Please God Please.

Harris and AOC LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

[Spidy]

As someone who lives the lifestyle discussed on this board, embracing Donald trump, project 2025, and Christian nationalists is certainly not in your best interest. A bill was just introduced to outlaw all pornography Nationwide. Christian nationalists are not your friend dude. Just waiting for the bill to make it a criminal act for Americans to engage in paid sex overseas. Look what both sides have done did the hobby in the United States. You can say what you want about gay and trans people, but they tend to be far more libertine September then work feminists or Christian Nationals. And I think the Christian nationalists have much more pull when it comes to legislation.

Absolutely Correct!

Don't forget, these would be the same MAGA/Repubs knuckleheads, that thought their American Fuhrer, wouldn't be stupid enough to touch Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security. It's not the first time or the last, these suckers have voted or acted against their best interest and then regretted it.

Time and time again, they have been duped, hoodwinked and suckered into thinking the Fuhrer, had nothing to do with evils and authoritarian fascist right-wing policies outlined in Project 2025.

Mom rips clueless GOP lawmaker who asked 12-year-old girl about pornography, April 19, 2025
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rade-girl.html

This clueless Repub/GOP Senator from Pennsylvania, is about as clueless as those here, that think because their American Fuhrer sleeps with hookers, prostitutes and porn-stars, won't adopt yet another one of his many hypocritical "Law and Order for Thee, Not for Me" policies.

Where naturally MAGA sycophants are exempt from the law and rule of law, providing of course, they bend the knee, grovel enough, pay ($$$$) enough, or simply willing to commit heinous crimes in his name, like Jan 6th!

[Spidy]

You really hate white people and then turn around and have the temerity to project and insinuate I'm a Nazi wow so bold and original LMFAO.

(...kkkk!) Hey let's not forget our VP JD "the Couch Creamer" Vance, certainly called out his boss as a Nazi aka. America's Hitler, and aka. "the American Fuhrer!" And your Fuhrer, being the narcissist he is, for the most part, took it as a compliment and loved the comparison! (...kkkk!)

But back to more Dems winning, as Nebraska's first Black mayor...crushes Repub incumbent!

John Ewing set to become Omaha's first Black mayor and flip the office as Omaha elects first Black mayor (with 56.3%), crushing and ousting Republican leadership of Nebraska's largest city (by margin of 12.6% points), a race she'd previously won with 63%. Ewing will also be the first Democrat to serve as Omaha mayor since 2013.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...-John-Ewing-Jr

All thanks, to "...you know who" and president Musk, from the ruby red state of Nebraska.

[MarquisdeSade1]

You would have fit in incredibly well in 1930's Germany No doubt. Constitution extends the right of due process to non-citizens as well.

Amazing you swallowed the nonsense about savages coming into the United States. You do realize that without the labor of illegal aliens or their numbers the United States population will start to fall quite rapidly leaving it in the same situation as Europe in Japan.

Destroying the rule of law? That's exactly what maga is bent on doing.

It's comical you mentioned the rule of law but you think it should be used to selectively and only for certain people.

You really hate white people and then turn around and have the temerity to project and insinuate I'm a Nazi wow so bold and original LMFAO.

I'm sure you're another lesbo Madcow sycophant, do you jerk off to him like ET and Spidy too?

I'm sure glad your hypocritical ass lives in the land of sex slaves and slave labor and aren't my neighbor.

You Spidy and ET should be room mates.

I can only imagine your PMs LMFAO.

[Elvis 2008]

Kamala Harris Would Beat Donald Trump if Election Held Again: Poll
May 15, 2025

https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harr...y-poll-2072730

115 days of a "honeymoon" with this historically disastrous Trump's Pandemic Part 2 term is more than enough for the overwhelming majority of Americans to stomach. Since then several polls have shown that voters don't trust Trump on the economy. That includes the Strength In Numbers/Verasight poll which shows that Trump's net approval on the economy stands at -17 points, with 38 approving and 58 disapproving.

Trump fares even worse on the issue of prices and inflation, with his net approval at -32 points, with 31 percent approving and 63 percent disapproving..

Yeah, no shit. That is because you Democratic douches and the lame stream media keep going on and on about tariffs and inflation lying your asses off.

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-f...ion-dissonance

Having embarrassed themselves with their TDS-driven cognitive dissonance over the past few months, Democrat-voting UMich respondents (and women, and low income Americans) in the preliminary May survey (a month after Liberation Day and also post-Pause and the massive meltup in stocks) turned the TDS-terror dial to '11'.

Consumer Expectations are now at their lowest since. Drum roll please. May 1980.

Tariffs were spontaneously mentioned by nearly three-quarters of consumers, up from almost 60% in April; uncertainty over trade policy continues to dominate consumers' thinking about the economy.

(I bet most consumers have no fucking clue what % the tariffs even are).

Year-ahead inflation expectations surged from 6. 7% last month to 7. 3% this month, the highest reading since 1981 and marking five consecutive months of unusually large increases of 0. 5 percentage points or more.

Long-run inflation expectations climbed from 4. 4% in April to 4. 6% in May, reflecting a particularly large jump among Democrats to a ridiculous 9. 6% over the next year!!

Finally, given their historic track record (completely refusing to acknowledge the surge in inflation under Biden), should we simply be ignoring the manic Democrats screaming about inflation now?

Sorry, one more that made us fucking laugh. One-third of women surveyed believe inflation over the next year will be 15% or higher.

So someone is lying: actual spending all time high while reported sentiment (based on 250 polled UMich respondents) is all time low.

Perhaps that explains why soft survey data has started to turn back up to hard data reality in the last week as it's hard to hate and keep pushing out your depression-era forecasts when stocks are at record highs and jobless claims remain near record lows.

End of link.

PPI which front runs the consumer price index was down 0. 4% in March and 0. 5% in April, and yet we have these crazy Democratic douche female loons predicting 15% inflation. Jesus, you cannot make this shit up. At least Wall Street has figured it out and the market has rallied.

The lies being told are just unfucking believable.

[MarquisdeSade1]

As someone who lives the lifestyle discussed on this board, embracing Donald trump, project 2025, and Christian nationalists is certainly not in your best interest. A bill was just introduced to outlaw all pornography Nationwide. Christian nationalists are not your friend dude. Just waiting for the bill to make it a criminal act for Americans to engage in paid sex overseas. Look what both sides have done did the hobby in the United States. You can say what you want about gay and trans people, but they tend to be far more libertine September then work feminists or Christian Nationals. And I think the Christian nationalists have much more pull when it comes to legislation.

Our Lord and Savior loves hookers as does Elon (I'm pretty sure he likes the FKKs) and most other real men in DC.

Democrats on the other hand see buying poosy akin to raaape.

If buying poosy overseas is made illegal it will come from NGOs thru USAID from the likes of Hillary Kamala AOC Pelosi and feminist voters like you ET and Spidy.

Here's some great news for you.

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2025/...nk-withdrawal/

Living outside the USA is awesome lololololololol.

Christian Nationalists? Lololol.

That bogeyman died a few decades ago bro!! Circa the 90's.

Don't you see the extreme hypocrisy on your part, you like hookers but vote for feminist policies.

I'm pretty sure you monger in all very right wing countries too.

Please tell us why you don't monger in feminist Scandinavia.

They would throw you in prison and throw away the key.

Do you know what the "Swedish Model" is?

The hooker is a victim and you are a raaapist.