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[Goferring]

Yes, G Man is down, injured in the line of fire. Years ago, I had a TMJ subluxation. Think mildly dislocated jaw socket with the associated muscle and tendon damage.

You know it was good tasting pussy last night when I was down there so long that my jaw poped out and now it's off to seek medical care.

Full post to come.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

Cherry picking the importance of this art of a good girl selection if possible. When a pinay has spent an extended time with a foreigner she knows more of what to expect and also what is expected of her.

Depends on who the foreign boyfie was.

I met a girl in Surigao whose previous US boyfriend must have been a total simp and she thought it totally normal to start dictating terms and her requirements. It took a while to educate her that that wasn't going to fly.

OTOH, most girls with only Pinoy experience have been well trained that the only acceptable answer is 'yes' and no discussion will be entertained. The only downsides I have found are the propensity for quickies only and the fondness of seeming shy and inexperienced upon first meeting (it takes a while for the wild child to come out).

Cheers. G.

[Goferring]

After the long weekend we returned to Butuan. The regular nightly sessions continued while she went to work during the day. She's definitely becoming more comfortable and relaxed and anything is on the table. "No" doesn't enter into any conversations.

Daytime infills have been minimal. 1/. She's well and truely taking all my capacity and 2/. The flake rate of Pina Girls is getting higher as girls are chasing remote sponsors vs inperson meetings. It wouldn't surprise me if a P1000 afternoon fuck session actually costs some girls money.

I have been getting more and more messages from girls in other cities about meeting up. Many are determined to make ue most of the one day they have off from work or school. Trying to be in three places at once on a Sunday isn't going to be easy.

For these reasons I told Corp Girl that I would be going to Davao for diving on Saturday. That didn't go down too well but resulted in one monumental session Saturday morning to remind me what I would be missing. I do have to admit that she's a great lay and if it wasn't for the fuck around factor of dealing with work and late nights I'd probably stay. However, the grass is always greener so it will be good to see if that actually turns out to be the case or wishful thinking.

She has been fairly low maintenance but she did drop the hint that it's Mom's birthday soon and I could give her some cash, if I wanted. I was fine with that so GCashed her 4 k which brings the total up to about 1 k per day she was with me. I thought that was fair given that work meant it wasn't 24/7 but when she was with me she definitely did her best to keep me happy. Very low maintenance indeed. Incidentals were still very low. Nightly Grab Meals dinner was about P300 to 700. Taxis to work were about P100 per day.

All up I was pretty happy. I'll probably return but might push for weekends or holidays only when work isn't a factor and we don't have to work around anything. With a bit more effort, I could organise girls on day rate to come and go during the week.

[ShaggerAu]

had Aussie BF before.

Cherry picking the importance of this art of a good girl selection if possible. When a pinay has spent an extended time with a foreigner she knows more of what to expect and also what is expected of her.

Thinking of this:

Hong Kong weekend conference. I scored a weekend trip that I needed to take from Clark to Hong Kong and attend a conference. The girl I took was an Angeles employed girl working as a housekeeper for a westerner. Consequently in HK she was happy to explore by herself while ensuring all my business shirts were ironed and my bedtime was satisfying.

Provincial Uni Student. She had a foreigner step father at some point. I would fly her to join me in Clark during her holidays. She was happy to stay in my airbnb and enjoy the pool. Why fly a girl into Angeles? Because she was worth it, a good honest girl. Cleared her debt to graduate for her university degree.

[Old And Ugly]

Of course unemployed, childless beauties will be the obvious choice for anybody, but in reality they are kind of rare (yes they do exists), they may not advertise, or may not be up for rental.

My target demographic was usually university graduates or similar, since we were going to spend time together, maybe travel around, and I wanted to have some conversation going on beside giving bedside instructions and commands.

I was doing it mostly using DIA, where you can comb thru the resumes, and pick the right category, yes by using filters you lower the pool of candidates, and have to comb thru the sea of fakes and LBs, but that's how I found out that the ones with higher degrees of education, are more likely to be real, and if you use an interesting intriguing first message they will reply. I was doing this on the side, not as a main mongering source, because it takes time, and you can't rush into blunt conversation, until you slowly retrieve more info to build your case. A few times I got lucky and there was no monetary transaction involved, especially if I was in the neighborhood.

I find the 2 k / day 20 k / month to be slightly above average pay in the PH, extremely affordable for me, and a good incentive for them to find an excuse and take a break from a going nowhere boring job. Most graduates will not find the right good paid employment that they were dreaming of wile studying and end up doing something else to survive while waiting for a brighter future that never comes, and that's exactly the ones that I was searching for.

I didn't do this lately since I got my GF, but I can tell that sometimes it was lifechanging for the girls, giving them the push needed to move forward. One that comes to mind was a sales rep working for a plastic materials co in Manila, but had a degree in economics, after stayed with me for almost a week and got paid 10 k, used the money to move back home to Mindanao, because she was never able to save enough to do it. She was so nice, spontane, and lovely, that I ended up paying for a 3 k online ferry ticket also, because she had to move all her belongings back home and was only feasible by boat on a few days journey. Another one was a teacher from the Visayas that took the opportunity of me flying her to Cebu to apply for a few teaching jobs there, she was stuck on her island with a small salary, and never had the money and a place to stay for a few days in any big city in order to do it. Another teacher from Billiran just wanted to get away from all, and her 2 kids, for a few weeks, but could not afford it, after doing all the legwork, I ended up passing her to a friend of mine that came from his playgrounds in BKK to sample the PH pussy, and 5 years later he's still providing stress relief for her once a year.

[WestCoast1]

'As of July 2024, the unemployment rate in the Philippines was estimated at 4.7 percent, while the under-employment rate was 12.1 percent.'

Still optimistic but suggests at least one-fifth of females are not fully, gainfully employed. Whilst department store salesgirls may appear to be good prospects, the reality is they are exhausted by week's end, yet still have to clean and launder at home.

I don't trust those numbers. I think they give a false narrative. The approximate 17% un / under-employment rate might indicate that the complementary 83% are somehow employed.

However, countries often couch unemployment to mean those who are actively looking for work, but are not currently employed. It does not take into account those not looking for work. If 60% of the adults are not looking for work (housewives, retirees / elderly, students, the disabled, the independently wealthy, etc), then the 17% un/under-employed mentioned above would be considerably smaller taking into account the additional 60%.

From usafacts. Org: https://usafacts.org/answers/what-is...united-states/.

What is the unemployment rate in the US right now?

About 4.2% in April 2025. That's a 0.3 percentage point increase from a year before. The unemployment rate is the percentage of people in the labor force who are actively looking for work but not currently employed. It's a common way to measure the health of the job market and economy.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics calculates the unemployment rate through a monthly survey to identify the civilian labor force, meaning people who are employed or actively seeking work. It counts part-time workers as employed. It excludes people who arent actively looking for work, such as retirees or discouraged workers.

* The labor force participation rate in the US. About 62% of those 16 and older are either working, or looking for it. That means about 40% remain not working and not looking. Possibly higher in Phils not working, leaving not 20% unemployed, but half or more un / under-employed, who are quite possibly interested in some type of 'foreigner travel compensation package'. Gentlemen, start your engines!

https://usafacts.org/answers/what-is...united-states/

What is the labor force participation rate in the US?

It was 62.4% in February 2025. The labor force participation rate measures the percent of people ages 16 and older engaged in the labor market, including those who are working or who are unemployed but actively looking for a job.

[Trevor2522]

Interesting. Have taken girls on trips with an agreed set price. However I have never taken one who was working at the time. I tend to shy away from girls who have a regular job.

'As of July 2024, the unemployment rate in the Philippines was estimated at 4.7 percent, while the under-employment rate was 12.1 percent.'

Still optimistic but suggests at least one-fifth of females are not fully, gainfully employed. Whilst department store salesgirls may appear to be good prospects, the reality is they are exhausted by week's end, yet still have to clean and launder at home.

By extension, the very worst are aircrew -- they might be great lookers and English speakers -- but meeting up to their schedule is a nightmare (and they are sleeping with male crew anyway). Best to avoid 'jaded' females who have regular work-contact with foreigners. As you say, it is wise to latch on to the unemployed, whilst throwing travel, money and romance in to the mix.

[WestCoast1]

Paying them for the time missed from work is a must, and should not be regarded as pay for pussy.

Interesting. Have taken girls on trips (or flown them to me and then traveled around with them) with an agreed set price (I usually pro-rate the pay over time; example I give her 1/3 of the total after 1/3 of the days; or alternately I give the weekly amount weekly). However I have never taken one who was working at the time. It tend to shy away from girls who have a regular job, for the simple reason that it prevents me from poon access on my schedule, and forces me to conform to hers. I typically am interested in girls who are wildly free to do whatever they want / need, whenever needed.

[Trevor2522]

I did this over the years so many times that I can't even remember, I hired girls as travel companions for 2 k / day or 20 k / month depending of the length of the engagement. They may make only 10 or 15 k a month on their jobs, and spend most of that just on living expenses, but they all send a little bit home to the family, to keep it afloat. Paying them for the time missed from work is a must, and should not be regarded as pay for pussy.

I did not want to pry into my friend's actual expenditure but, amidst occasional, exorbitant, financial requests, he got a pretty-good deal overall by dipping into his wallet a couple of times a week, to keep her keen. Wisely, he made no lump-sum payment but sent her home safely from Cebu to GenSan, and back to selling her balut.

Charles Dickens might have written 'Great Expectations' for such relationship hopefuls. Given our creaky bodies, once past the age of 70, a nurse (or student nurse) would make a lot of sense, were we embracing both a carer and a general relationship. An uneducated 'casual' is going to be of limited use in an emergency, but does also highlight the importance of medical insurance and support in a country where nothing is free or can be assumed. Now back in a temperate climate, my friend reports a relapse into his joint aches and pains; tropical heat is very soothing!

[Old And Ugly]

Many guys don't realise the benefits to the girls of long term agreements, even at dramatically reduced day rates.

Could you imaging Trevor's friend's girl's eyes light up when she was handed P32,000 at the end of two months? Definitely the most cash she had seen ever. To these girls, that's a life changing sum. Enough to buy a house etc.

Cheers. G.

I did this over the years so many times that I can't even remember, I hired girls as travel companions for 2 k / day or 20 k / month depending of the length of the engagement. We talked about this here before, how the girls are part of a machinery that needs all the wheels to spin in order to function. They may make only 10 or 15 k a month on their jobs, and spend most of that just on living expenses, but they all send a little bit home to the family, to keep it afloat. If they go with you, than they don't make money anymore, but they still have to do their part for the family's well being. Paying them for the time missed from work is a must, and should not be regarded as pay for pussy.

[Goferring]

This is very do-able, especially with an established allowance.

Many guys don't realise the benefits to the girls of long term agreements, even at dramatically reduced day rates.

Could you imaging Trevor's friend's girl's eyes light up when she was handed P32,000 at the end of two months? Definitely the most cash she had seen ever. To these girls, that's a life changing sum. Enough to buy a house etc.

Cheers. G.

[WestCoast1]

Just an idea of what is possible via online dating, with relatively-little paid: around P4,000 a week, over 2 months (approx. min. salary).

Still a touch of newbie one-itis -- but he is serious about retiring in the Philippines.

This is very do-able, especially with an established allowance. For province girls that I didn't know and were willing to travel with me, p2500-3000 was usually fine. P4000 is above the minimum salary in the province for a week, p2500 is a more typical minimum salary (location depending). Some links below for that. Many employers here pay below the minimum (although some also provide a daily fare amount, of, say, p40-60).

That said, p4000 is probably a better pay range than the minimum. And compare the p4000/ week for so many shots on goal, as compared to a barfine or NCR freelancer. Also consider the un-rushed situation of waking up to your spinner every morning, available and happy to tend to your fav want and need. She is also translating, touring you, finding you a barbershop or laundry shop, etc. Touche to your friend, and good report sir Trevor.

https://digido.ph/articles/minimum-w...ilippines_2025

How much is minimum wage in Metro Manila 2025?

The minimum wage rate in Manila for 2022 was Php 570 per day for the non-agriculture sector and Php 533 per day for the agriculture sector. Following Wage Order No. NCR-24, issued on June 26, 2023, there was an increase of Php 40 (2), bringing the minimum wage in 2025 to Php 610 per day for the non-agriculture sector and Php 573 for the agriculture sector.

Is this enough? Not really.

At ₱610 per day, you will earn ₱13,420 if you work for 22 days a month. Now, a decent apartment costs ₱8,000 in Manila. As you can see, this already eats up big part of your income.

Add to that the cost of education, gasoline, food, and then you have nothing left. If you work in the BPO industry, you will find companies that pay as much as ₱25,000 even if you are just new. The kind of salary you earn, of course, depends on your skills and the clients that you serve.

And.

Provincial rate in the Philippines 2025
For the minimum wage Philippines in the province, it is a different discussion altogether.

The minimum provincial rate in the Philippines varies because there are different economic conditions depending on the location in the country. Moreover, the minimum wage depends on the cost of living of the workers based on the Wage Rationalization Act or RA 6727. For example, according to the 2025 Philippines DOLE wages table, the salary range in the minimum wage for the province of Pangasinan ranges from Php 454 to Php 500.
There are many regions in the Philippines, and you will have to consult the table from the Department of Labor and Employment to see the actual ranges.

Here are the minimum wage rates of some provinces in the Philippines.

✔ Minimum wage in Bukidnon is Php 411 Php 438
✔ Minimum wage in Surigao del Sur is Php 385
✔ Minimum wage in Davao Oriental is Php 438 Php 443
✔ Minimum wage in Quezon City is Php 610 Php 573
✔ Minimum wage in Pampanga is Php 454 Php 500
✔ Minimum wage in Cavite is Php 385 Php 520
✔ Minimum wage in Negros Occidental is Php 450 Php 480
✔ Minimum wage in Cebu is Php 420 Php 465
✔ Minimum wage in Samar is Php 382 Php 435
✔ Minimum wage in Zamboanga del Norte is Php 368 Php 380

[Goferring]

Just an idea of what is possible via online dating, with relatively-little paid: around P4,000 a week, over 2 months (approx. min. salary). Plain but pleasant face; good, slender figure, fair English, no baby; had Aussie BF before. Just ferrying around and staying in cheap AirBnBs was a novelty for her.

Friend is a former driving instructor and even gave her lessons on Siquijor. He is overweight but easy-going and knows how to please. His first foray into SE Asian dating and he had a great time! Lucky encounter: she was clearly seeking a LTR in return for low-level maintenance.

Too small for me but some guys like their ladies that petite. However, it appears to be a handicap to LTRs with local men. He is planning to return to her later this year but I encouraged him to try other online hopefuls for comparison. Still a touch of newbie one-itis -- but he is serious about retiring in the Philippines.

A good report.

Yet another example of what is possible away from the regular bar scene, especially if the guy has time on his hands.

No disrespect to the girl but I'd caution your friend that it can be dangerous trying to chase the dragon and relive fun times. Often they are impossible to repeat.

She was likely hoping to a long term commitment at the end of the two months.

Subsequent visits typically gone of two ways: either she realises that a long term relationship isn't happening so she bails or; sick buffaloes slowly creep in and costs climb to what we normally hear of.

Good luck to your friend. Any follow up information on his subsequent visits would be good.

Enjoy. G.

[Trevor2522]

Just an idea of what is possible via online dating, with relatively-little paid: around P4,000 a week, over 2 months (approx. min. salary). Plain but pleasant face; good, slender figure, fair English, no baby; had Aussie BF before. Just ferrying around and staying in cheap AirBnBs was a novelty for her.

Friend is a former driving instructor and even gave her lessons on Siquijor. He is overweight but easy-going and knows how to please. His first foray into SE Asian dating and he had a great time! Lucky encounter: she was clearly seeking a LTR in return for low-level maintenance.

Too small for me but some guys like their ladies that petite. However, it appears to be a handicap to LTRs with local men. He is planning to return to her later this year but I encouraged him to try other online hopefuls for comparison. Still a touch of newbie one-itis -- but he is serious about retiring in the Philippines.

[Transporter]

I'm planning to go and do some tourist bucket list items in Laoag. Anyone have recent experience in this north city?

I'm thinking 3 days, 2 nights with direct flights from MNL. I'm tossing up whether to find talent in town or just take a girl from Manila.

Recent experiences appreciated.

Laoag is awesome, send me a dm.