Jakarta

[GentileBear]

Thanks for the in depth info NoGermaphobe!

By any chance any one know if LV (Elvie) still is at Classic? She is super cute -maybe 24 +/- short 5' 3" big tits and speaks good English. She would have been stationed on the couch to the Right of Classic's T2 immediately once you enter. Anyway. She had encouraged me to bring my Beer into the room. She got some Coffee drink. But come to think of it I had said "Right" to the waitresses in the hotel rooms of Classic. Because I assumed they knew what I had ordered "Beer Cold," "Bintang " and I said "Right" "Right" - then they brought a Sprite to our room. Elvie was smart enough with English to get the mis- communication of "Right and Sprite". Anyway. Got me thinking about her.

And just like Beer choices, sometimes you eat cheap food - like McDonalds Rice!! And sometimes you eat Salmon Steak ! But yeah, I gotta have COLD Beer - drinking luke warm beer with it being watered down by ice just sucks... But then again, I get it. Classic is not a Sky Bar on top of a 5 Star Hotel!!!

[NoGermaphobe]

Re: Point 1. With the volume of beer they go through nightly, I just don't think they have the refrigerator / cooler space to store cold beer. Or won't invest in it. Re: 2. Most of the waitresses don't speak any English and are simply unable to communicate this to you. While this scene welcomes foreigners and treats them the same as locals, it is not organized towards us or our needs.

You also have to look at this from the mamasan's perspective. The most important thing to her is getting her commission for writing the voucher for the lady. 1 voucher is 365 K = 1 hour in the room with the lady to fuck or 1 hour with her at the table as "booking table. " It's the same to the mamasan and it's mostly (see below) the same for the lady. So as long as the mamasan gets her commission and you paying for the lady's time, you should be fine.

If you are a single, solo foreigner, without a group of friends there, who doesn't speak much Indonesian that just walked into a brothel, the mamasan assumes you are there to fuck. It's also the path of least resistance to the mamasan getting her commission by getting you to the room to fuck.

Regarding drinking with the ladies. Not all ladies like to drink. If you just want to drink yourself and you don't care if she drinks, you should make this clear to the lady. If you book a table, she may assume you want her to get drunk with you. This is because this is what the locals like and do. If locals book a table, most of them are looking for the lady to keep pace drinking with them all night long, whether it is a bucket (or 4) of Guinness or hard alcohol like whiskey. If you just want to kick back and drink for an hour and chat with her, make sure you let the lady know she doesn't have to drink alcohol and can drink a pocari, tea, or whatever local non alcoholic drink there is. The skinnier ladies especially may not want to drink beer or hard alcohol with you as they don't want to get fat or don't want to get shit faced drunk for the rest of the night and not be able to work. (She'll probably happily take a glass of beer, or a shot of whiskey. But the local guys that go often want the lady to match them drink for drink or at least always be drinking.) So just make sure you let her know it's ok if she doesn't drink much.

However. If you REALLY want a lady to drink with you and match you. There is a subset of ladies that absolutely LOVE to drink with customers and get drunk and just party all night. Typically these are the "bigger" ladies, but not all. Just don't expect that out of your typical 40-45 kg spinner that many of us seem to like here.

Do you ever notice all those "reserved" table tents with names on them all throughout Classic if you get there before 5 or 6 PM? These are regulars that often show up after work. Many are Chinese-Indo businessmen that make a LOT of money. Some of these guys drop 10-15 million or more a night, every night on whiskey alone. Like at least 8-10 bottles a night. They are there every night with their colleagues or friends. All the ladies and all the staff know them. Some drink with the ladies for several hours and then go fuck (if their dick still works after all that drinking). Some guys never go up and just go there to get shit-faced drunk every night after work, fondle the lady some and hang out with their friends.

This is what some ladies are scared of for "booking table." Expecting them to drink A LOT or match you drinking. There is a subculture of ladies that gravitate to this. But all not ladies want to do this. So if you book a table, it would be advisable to let the lady know she doesn't have to drink alcohol with you or she may prefer to just go to the room to fuck and not "book table. " Again though, it depends on the lady.

Again, just let her know she can drink whatever, but you are the one who wants to drink and it should be fine.

I did not know that. Wish the bar tenders 1) Served COLD beer instead of providing silver steins of ice cubes 2) Communicated to us. As customers that we can kick back and drink for a 1 HR session.

The mamasan's kept telling me "Go Up? " "Mister You Her Go Up? Go Up now? - they would have made more money from me if they allowed the Lubrication of beer to flow in me first before "going up. ".

[Plant Smoke]

I did not know that. Wish the bar tenders 1) Served COLD beer instead of providing silver steins of ice cubes 2) Communicated to us. As customers that we can kick back and drink for a 1 HR session.

The mamasan's kept telling me "Go Up? " "Mister You Her Go Up? Go Up now? - they would have made more money from me if they allowed the Lubrication of beer to flow in me first before "going up. ".

Wow here is an idea. Go over to the coffee shop, by yourself, without a girl and lube up. Or go in the corner near the pool tables, by yourself and lube up.

Then when you think you are going to drink your last quart of "oil", start looking for goldilocks, Mr. Bear.

Then see what you can get away with. If mamasan is getting edgy, walking in circles around your table, its time to go upstairs. Simple dilemma with a simple solution.

Unlike this problem of them putting meth and crack cocaine in indonesian cloves.

[Plant Smoke]

I did not know that. Wish the bar tenders 1) Served COLD beer instead of providing silver steins of ice cubes 2) Communicated to us. As customers that we can kick back and drink for a 1 HR session.

The mamasan's kept telling me "Go Up? " "Mister You Her Go Up? Go Up now? - they would have made more money from me if they allowed the Lubrication of beer to flow in me first before "going up. ".

God what is so difficult here Mr. Bear. Go to the coffee shop, drink three beers by yourself. Or go over to the pool tables and drink beer by yourself.

When you decide you are going to drink your last beer get a girl; don't go over 20-30 minutes you won't be charged. There problem solved.

Except for that damn crack and meth in those indonesian cloves.

[GentileBear]

, it's the same cost as taking her to the room. 365 K for 1 hour. And it's called "booking table. " She won't leave until the hour is up. You can book another 1 hour table or take her to the room or leave. Up to you.

I did not know that. Wish the bar tenders 1) Served COLD beer instead of providing silver steins of ice cubes 2) Communicated to us. As customers that we can kick back and drink for a 1 HR session.

The mamasan's kept telling me "Go Up? " "Mister You Her Go Up? Go Up now? - they would have made more money from me if they allowed the Lubrication of beer to flow in me first before "going up. ".

[Hard Cowboy]

Visited the'Heaven in South Jakarta. Before I entered they mentioned that if I left and didn't choose a girl it would be 115,000. Went to the 2nd floor lounge area and a mamasan came over and started showing me pictures. I asked to see the girls in the real, which was denied. Got up walked out and paid the 115,000. Staff seemed in shock. But the whole reason to visit these places is to avoid the heavily beauty filtered and angled photos of online girls.

[NoGermaphobe]

You can have the lady at your table for a reasonable, undefined amount of time to speak with her and get to know her first as Paolo99 did. Usually 5-15 minutes, but again, it's not set. It will depend on the lady, the mamasan, the time of day/night and how many other customers are around. Buying her a drink doesn't matter. This isn't Thailand and Philippines where ladies get commissions from overpriced drinks. It's just the cost of the drink.

If you take a longer time with the lady, the mamasan may ask you to go to the room or pull her away to another customer the mamasan wants to present her to. If the mamasan comes back and asks you go to the room, you are on the clock. You are expected to either take her to the room, book a table, or send her away. When this happened to Paolo99, he asked for a few more minutes to ask his final questions. This is usually fine. He then took the lady to the room. If another customer comes in and wants to take her to the room and you are still being indecisive, the mamasan will probably pull the lady away so she can go with the other customer. (I unintentionally did this to another customer once. I came in looking for a lady I had gone with the day before. She was at a another table chatting with a customer and I didn't see her. I asked the mamasan for her by name. The mamasan immediately located her chatting at the table with another customer, laser pointered her over to me, I paid the mamasan and we immediately went to the room. I didn't know she was chatting with another customer. But he hadn't booked her table and was just talking with her. So she was essentially available and went to the room with me.)

If you want to "reserve" her time to drink and keep you company, it's the same cost as taking her to the room. 365 K for 1 hour. And it's called "booking table. " She won't leave until the hour is up. You can book another 1 hour table or take her to the room or leave. Up to you.

Thank you for sharing.

I saw Asian guys that have girls at the table for long time. I don't think the pay just girls drink, because girls look happy.

I read in another post that they pay the same price for hour (so, reading your ticket 240 k for xp1, and it may be thiket 3. 5 k, no room for sure). It may be you never pay more because that time was in the hour you paid.

But it's all so cheaper, that when I wish I just try to take a girls before or after sex, then I will see if ticket change (aside drink). All so cheaper, all so nice. .

If someone else know more about girl at table price, just share thanks. In every case, with this always good price, I will try.

Have a nice night.

Giovanni.

[Giovanni Volo]

Thank you for sharing.

I saw Asian guys that have girls at the table for long time. I don't think the pay just girls drink, because girls look happy.

I read in another post that they pay the same price for hour (so, reading your ticket 240 k for xp1, and it may be thiket 3. 5 k, no room for sure). It may be you never pay more because that time was in the hour you paid.

But it's all so cheaper, that when I wish I just try to take a girls before or after sex, then I will see if ticket change (aside drink). All so cheaper, all so nice. .

If someone else know more about girl at table price, just share thanks. In every case, with this always good price, I will try.

Have a nice night.

Giovanni.

It's the same price than when you order something for yourself. There's no upcharge if the drink you're ordering is for you or for the girl. You don't pay to the mama, you'll have to pay it with the bill before leaving the club.

I don't understand their pricing but it remains cheap, they've got some "add charge", some "discount", the entry fee becomes 3,5 when you fuck a girl (instead of 5).

Here are the 3 tickets the cashier gave me in T5. The first one, I paid the girl's fee directly to mama, the 2 others the mama made me sign the paper and I paid everything before leaving the club.

I just see that the pack of cigarettes for the girl was 59 (instead of 52 that I wrote in the initial post).

[Safado70]

Quite busy in classic, Few spare tables at back, picked up a Mama, Ivon, previously worked Bali, nice lady, decent English good for a bit of a chat, she offered some different options too, from other mama's a 2 hour session for 500 k or take a girl out overnight 1 mil, girl stays til 8/9 am.

This is super interesting. I would love to get these options. Usually there are no discounts at all. 2 hours are 2 x 365, and overnight is five tickets 5 x 365.

I always assumed that prices were fixed in classic. This is why I never even tried to negotiate.

[Paolo99]

Just a question: how much you pay to have girl drinking with you at Classic? Did you pay mamasan, or after with bill?

It's the same price than when you order something for yourself. There's no upcharge if the drink you're ordering is for you or for the girl. You don't pay to the mama, you'll have to pay it with the bill before leaving the club.

I don't understand their pricing but it remains cheap, they've got some "add charge", some "discount", the entry fee becomes 3,5 when you fuck a girl (instead of 5).

Here are the 3 tickets the cashier gave me in T5. The first one, I paid the girl's fee directly to mama, the 2 others the mama made me sign the paper and I paid everything before leaving the club.

I just see that the pack of cigarettes for the girl was 59 (instead of 52 that I wrote in the initial post).

[Paolo99]

There's been several recent reports here about all girls at travel refusing BBBJ. I planned to go there at least once on my next trip to verify for myself, so it's good to see experiences at least vary.

I've had the feeling that all of them loved to suck dicks, even the dick scared girl gave a good BJ (covered).

The two first girls I've met in Travel were great, no Listerine bullshit too. I've been the one taking my dick out of their mouths most of the time, I felt like they could go on for a long time with the BJ, though I usually don't go for very extended BJ sessions.

I banged one girl at Classic (terminal 2) in the ass the one time I got there unusually late at night (close to midnight). She wasn't really my type face wise, but we got along rather well upstairs. She realized I wasn't going to take her, but hung around at my table anyway, and I grew to like her funny personality. Did a couple of tours around the place after giving her a polite goodbye, but saw nobody else I really liked (it was rather late, after a fruitless tinder date I think), and so went back to her in the end. Ended up carefully fucking her in the ass. She didn't ask for any tip, but once we were dressed I tipped her the double (200 k) of what I usually tip for good service.

That's good to know that at least some are OK with A+. It might have something to do with the kind of girls that I chose though. I've mostly taken young and slim girls.

[Werqweq]

Quite busy in classic, Few spare tables at back, picked up a Mama, Ivon, previously worked Bali, nice lady, decent English good for a bit of a chat, she offered some different options too, from other mama's a 2 hour session for 500 k or take a girl out overnight 1 mil, girl stays til 8/9 am.

She got my preferences, and off she went to round up some girls.

Now this was a first for my classic lineups, it appears mama went to several different couches and picked girls that actually closely met my preference, as girls started showing up in 2 and 3's from different directions, until

Wow. What kind of VIP are you? That's normal in the basement club (costing twice of T2/ T5, but no idea why), but never seen it in T2. I'd tip that mama and stick to her if she did that for me.

[Giovanni Volo]

Very interesting.

Just a question: how much you pay to have girl drinking with you at Classic? Did you pay mamasan, or after with bill?

The girls in the room was quite all fine for me. But it can be nice also drink something after the hours, before see bay. One time a girl ask me about.

Or also something before can be ok, specially if after she would be still better.

After meeting the dick scared girl I didn't want to come across that situation again. I would have a look at all the girls available first (and reject (respectfully) all the mamasans in the beginning). Then I would try to find a seat, even at a remote place if the good tables are already taken (which means every time in a place like Terminal 2 or Travel) or stay at a spot where I could have a good look at the girls when they are being asked to come and form a lineup for the Asian customers (like the corridor linking the main area the girls are seated with the area hosting the band show, not far from the stairs leading to the toilets in Travel). This would give me an idea of the girls body, shape and face. Then I would order my beer (Bali Hai at 44 in Classic, or Bintang at 70 in Travel), and pretend I'm not here for the girls. Mamas will invariably come over with one or two chicks that they think would match me. I had to reject some of them but more often than not they come over with a slim chick that I'm ready to fuck. I would offer her a drink too as the price is very cheap (some don't want one, one took an Iced capuccino (17) that she shared with her friends, one even took a pack of cigarettes instead (cheap too, around 52 at T5). That alone put the girls at ease, and I could see they felt more comfortable with me. I never discussed about services, just small usual talks like where you from, what's your name and so on. Very small talks anyway as I don't like communicating through the translate app, but I would try to be a bit touchy (not over the top, they are very shy in front of others). Once the mama comes back, I request a few more minutes where I precisely asked the girl "do you want to go with me?" which they all said "yes", then I would follow by "you're not scared? Which they smile and say "no" (only one said "a bit nervous" but she's been a gem in the room). After following these steps, I can't complain about any girl's attitude in the room, they then all had a top notch attitude.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

For your Lokasari naysayers, these are two girls I took to my hotel on separate occasions. Both 18, cute as hell in my opinion, friendly and very willing. Both found with a small group of equally cute 18-20 yos near KFC, Lokasari.

With pix this time.

[Asian Rain]

I fucked a Lokasari Mamasan named Angun.

Good to hear that Angun is becoming more entrepreneurial. Will ping her to see what stock she might be offering. Suppoosing we are talking about the same Angun, I posted a pic that she recently sent me. If you come across them, Adel and Nadia also will proactively introduce girls. I wouldn't refer to them as mamasans, but have adopted the term "pimpettes" for such providers. Although I have done them all in the past, only Angun is still fuckworthy after Adel pumped out her first baby. From my experience, these pimpettes are largely fishing from the same pool of girls that the aunty mamasans and the bug-eyed papasan are providing. That being said, there are some pimpettes that can provide girls who are outside the group of girls who hang around Lokasari (cewek tidak nongkrong di Lokasari) and those connections can lead to some noteworthy pleasurable experiences. Will leave it at that.

None of the girls I've seen had any diseases.

Guys will fuck however they want. Lokasari is a 100% guaranteed BB available environment, which is one of the prime attractions for some. I would highlight that this makes the girls particularly susceptible. I know for a fact that many of these girls can be cesspools of STDs. For this reason, if I use girls in the Lokasari network, I also use some of the preventative protocols mentioned by Gabacho, primarily antibiotic prophylaxis dose. My mongering mate once told me I was foolish for doing so, but then he ended up returning back to Europe with something that the doctors back home didn't diagnose correctly the first visit and he ended up taking a series of extremely painful intramuscular antibiotic shots in his ass to clear up the mess. Ouch. For consideration.

Then she made me use a condom which just killed the entire vibe. It's like why do I go to the trouble to have a vasectomy and take all these different antibiotics antivirals and vaccines just to still use a condom. Needless to say I wasn't able to cum.

Is there maybe a way to talk with the girl and confirm "tampa condom" before taking her to the room? With local language skills or discreet use of Google Translate, it might eliminate the uncertainty. If you have to roll the BB dice every time, that would be a kill joy from the start IMO. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.