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  1. #20550
    Quote Originally Posted by NRandom940  [View Original Post]
    In my entire mongering career of thousands of girls, I had unprotected sex one time and I got gonorrhea. The only STD I've ever had.
    And that happened because your penis wasn't hardened. The first time it encounters these deadly bacteria, it'll be seriously infected. But after a while, the skin there develops resistance, and you can stick your cock in any pussy and nothing will happen.

    Now it's too late. At your age, there's a risk that it'll fall off if it gets infected again. Be very careful.

  2. #20549
    Quote Originally Posted by Uphill69  [View Original Post]
    David points out the 2 VIP girls, and also 2 standard, letting me know they all meet my requirements, then he suggests I would maybe like two, now threesomes are a funny thing, I've only had a few I've considered a success and none in Indonesia, but I have never taken 2 from Emporium, David mentions one of the girls squirts and that they both work well together and I am sold, Bonus is they both speak more English than most indo girls.

    For reference 2 VIP girls is 2. 9 juta all in and 2 standard is 2. 5 juta.
    Excellent reports. Can't remember seeing a threesome report from Emporivum before, so that was interesting.

    A bit disappointing that even when paying that much the girls will still default to the "new pussy, new condom" dance, but could guess it would be like that. Rather cheap of Emporivum that taking two girls does not also extend the time, like it does at classic (1 hour -> 1. 5 hours), especially as they have now reduced the time in room from 1.5h to 1h.

  3. #20548
    Quote Originally Posted by GuyReynolds  [View Original Post]
    Anyone know what days are best for which specific bars / clubs? Read somewhere that Club H is best on Wednesdays to party, possibly try to pick up some civvies. I enjoy the nightlife, hitting up clubs and bars in the cities I monger. Helps to me from dulling my other attributes, and keep them sharp. Its nice and easy to pay for it, due to convenience, but nice to know you can still get freebies with some effort while enjoying the thrill of the hunt.
    Wednesday night = ladies night in most places = free entry, free or cheap drinks so always a good time to be out and about, especially in the clubs.

  4. #20547

    Negotiate

    Quote Originally Posted by FFlintstone69  [View Original Post]
    If arranging BBFS via tips is so easy in the room, why can't it just be arranged before paying for the room?
    Quote Originally Posted by FFlintstone69
    If I completely abort the mission and ignore the cost of the session she may go out and tell others don't go with him he only wants BBFS, sure that could happen pre-asking as well, but at least I'm not paying for that to happen, this is another reason I avoid the place (places with pre-set rules are garbage to me).

    Because what man in his right mind would fly so far to pay to screw 3rd world WGs with a full body condom. That is mind boggling and has absolutely zero value to me.
    Despite many posts suggesting that BBFS is virtually guaranteed "by offering a tip" in the room during the session at venues like Classic and Travel, it is clear that virtually guaranteed should be taken as not guaranteed for "Tampa condom". I appreciate the posters who reveal this fact as it gives a true representation of the uncertainty.

    Now to the question, why can't it [BBFS] just be arranged before? IMHO this can and should be done in venues like Classic and Travel IF it is important to YOU. Google Translate can be your friend here. When you sit with the girl, rather than just immediately blurt out "no condom" to the girl, consider a more eased approach by having a discreet conversation. NOTE: If other girls or mamasan try to look in on your translation, politely shoo them away! First, start by translating the usual chit-chat. Nice to meet you. How old are you? Do you have any kids? You are very cute. I like your smile. Do a little blah blah and feel the vibe. Then ease into the topic. "I like romantic sex. Same as boyfriend and girlfriend. Do you like?" Then eventually get to the key point. "Can you be my special girlfriend and play with me no condom? If you are good girlfriend for me, I will give good tip. " Now she can react in 2 ways. She can say NO WAY, in which you can politely send her away by translating "Sorry, I want a special girlfriend experience. " OR she can possibly reply with "how much tip". When a girls asks "how much", it is music to my ears. Now the conversation is just numbers. Based on what others are claiming, start with 100 k. If she is one of the "BBFS virtually guaranteed with tip" girls described in so many posts, then she should enthusiastically say yes and that is the time to say "okay, deal" to confirm with the girl. If she acknowledges, then it is time to raise your hand for mamasan to pay. Now keep in mind the girl may not be happy with 100 k, so she could ask for something like 200 k or even more. Offer to meet in the middle with 150 k. If she refuses and demands 200 k, then ask yourself if you want to bail over 6 US Dollars or get fucked the way that you want to fuck with no uncertainty. Now you have negotiated up front an all-inclusive experience. There is no tip anymore. You have negotiated what is most important to you, so unless something else special happens in the room, what was a "tip for something special" is just now a fixed extra you give her at the end of the session. Lastly, once the deal is done, politely refuse to entertain any downgrading of the condition like "you cum outside" or the like.

    As an aside, this is not just a hypothetical. I use variants of this approach in similar situations in Bangkok, where it is an order of magnitude more difficult to get reliable no-fuss BBFS. It absolutely does not guarantee success, but it helps me to avoid what would otherwise be failures from my POV. Feel free to take or leave this advice. Not minding the uncertainty of being forced to bag up, some would prefer to read the tea leaves or just inshallah. That is a perfectly legit strategy too! Enjoy Jakarta, AR.

  5. #20546
    Well my success rate may not be as high as LetMeIn's but it was still good as compared to most on this forum, infact I did very well at Emporium and didn't even ask the girls, slipped it in. Initially they were reluctant but eventually gave in and enjoyed, many went on with 'don't Stop', music to my ears, amen.

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    I think the only place on the planet you can possibly reach that much available anal is Brazil. You are flat out lying.

  6. #20545

    Guess what, it's classic again, so what I am a creature of habit.

    29th May.

    So after a nice meal and a couple of drinks, I head on out to classic T2, I could probably walk but its still raining a little, so I call a grab, by the time he arrives its stopped raining, but I don't mind as its like 22 k, and I don't have to risk the rain slicked roads, plus crossing about 3 busy roads where you court death.

    I arrive just on 9 pm, place is moderately busy, crusty old mama latches on to me, I scan for Ivon, can't see her, I ask apparently she is not working again, maybe she go moved on for offering alternate pricing options.

    I get setup on a table and order a big Bintang, tell the mama I want to have a drink first and she leaves, after my beer arrives, I am hoping I'll get a moment to survey the environment, but no, she is back with a group.

    So my rule for tonight is to do as I'm supposed to, stick to what I like and send everything that is not away.

    And that is what I do, first group dismissed, and then I type out in translate exactly what I require as the spoken word does not seem to filter through to this mama.

    She comes back about 5 times with various girls nothing like what I want, each small group sent packing, I think she finally gets the picture and does not come back.

    Another mama takes over, I show her my preferences, off she goes, first group no good, in between times I had been scanning couches and had my eye on a few, but fortunately this mama picked up one of the girls I had been eyeing and brought her to me, Success. Correct body type, facial features, and not a completely flat personality, also happy to get close. Great.

    I order myself and her a drink and we chit chat for a bit, laugh at the guy mangling the karaoke (not that either of us would do better we admitted), so good rapport. So we had a good 20 minutes at the table and then she confirms if I'the like to take her to a room, absolutely.

    Off to fetch mama and the business end is concluded, then off to the room.

    When the clothes come off she is almost perfect for me, she used to go to the gym you could tell and I confirm with her, but its been a few months since she started working at classic she has not been so a slight loss in definition but still good.

    We joke around quite a bit, just fooling really but it's put her at ease.

    Session follow the standard, bit if a makeout session then body licks, BBBJ, fingering, all the positions, I am fairly sure I got her to finish in mish while playing with her clit, she first would pull my hand away and the put it back, and its generally a good indication when you are caressing their tits and they grab your hand and make you squeeze harder.

    Anyway the girls with good customer service know how to do it either fake or real, it elevates the experience for me.

    But my plan was to take a couple girls tonight so she was just an appetiser and I did not want to blow my load, we fucked slow and hard for about 30 minutes and with a Dom on its easier to control myself, when I started getting too sensitive I ending the sex, and layback while she massaged by cock and balls with her mouth until the phone rung.

    Session one complete. She seemed sad I had not finished, I told her it was my choice.

    Tip given for good performance and attitude (made sure to let her know that was why).

    Back into the bar and grabbed a new table and a service girl to get me a drink.

    Stalking dancer from the other night pounces, she is pretty hot and is all over me for a minute trying for more shots for her and her friend, but I pass. I think I read in the past you can take them to a room it's just 3 x the cost, I did not ask though.

    Anyway I need to recover my energy after the previous cardio workout, so a couple more beers.

    I have been scanning the talent and there are still quite a few around I like, Some of the locals / chinese have scooped up some real hotties though, but its so mixed, some I would go near while some are drop dead gorgeous even within the same table group, just goes to show peoples tastes vary.

    Anyway crusty mama spots me without a lady and comes to have another go, I am not hopeful, but I still have most of a large Bintang bottle to go, so some entertainment in who she rustles up may be amusing, and who knows she may produce a gem.

    Spoiler she fails and gives up after one very poor attempt, though I see her bring a hottie to a local guys table, so obviously she capable, just trying to FOB her rejects on to me.

    I finish my beer and am about to do the rounds when mama 2 spots me and comes to check I am ok and do I want another lady, sure lets go, see what you can do, off she goes and she strikes out twice before finding the right girl.

    If anything more friendly than the last girl has me wrapped up in her arms immediately, and she is small under 5", I offer her a drink, but she would like a pack of smokes instead (turns out they are cheaper, especially cheaper than the Bintang lemon which is 90 k which I bought for the first girl). Really same MO as the first, except she is more affectionate at the table.

    I see girl 1 walk by for a lineup at one point and give her a smile and wave, which she returns, I like it when its not awkward, our time was a transaction, I had a good time, but am just a customer.

    So off to the room, for another sweaty fuck fest, I don't think I mentioned the AC in the rooms we were in was run of a central system which was not working, or was shit, so we worked up a literal sweat each time, not a bad thing, I don't mind a workout.

    So usual cleanup, but I notice she also give attention to the taint and ass, which most don't so I wonder if this bodes so extra attention later.

    Start of the same on the bed, caresses, kissing body licking, then she goes down for a BBBJ and she is pretty good, she also spends time on the balls and taint as well as the join between crotch and thigh which naughty massage ladies like to tease. Does not go all the way to rimming, but it's still a very nice sensation.

    When then go through all the positions and repeat a couple before I have her lying on her front with a pillow underneath and slowly fuck her in prone with her turning to kiss me with passion until I finish.

    Once done she quickly cleans up and jumps in the shower, comes back and lights a smoke (she does ask first) and I lay their spent but happy until the phone rings for check a few minutes later.

    Tipped again for good service and attitude, she also clings to me like a limpet all the way to the cashier which is rare as most say bye-bye as soo as you step back into the club or even before.

    Costs for the night.

    Girl 1 - 365 k + 100 k.

    Girl 2 - 365 k + 100 k.

    Tab - 440 k.

    So almost 1. 2 mil and I walk out about 1 am so 4 hours.

    I braved the mean streets and walk back to my hotel, at that time of night traffic is much quieter so did not fear for my life.

  7. #20544

    Wednesday Ladies Night at Zoo SCBD

    Yes. Confirmed wit friend. Wed is ladies night at Zoo. This is in SCBD across Langham hotels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chilli1  [View Original Post]
    How long you will stay.

    You can go to kemang bars resto but some will expect many.

    I had several meet as date from tinder who asked for many after finish leaving room.

    If there are long stay guys here they can share about their locations.

    If you younger age white.

  8. #20543
    Quote Originally Posted by GuyReynolds  [View Original Post]
    Anyone know what days are best for which specific bars / clubs? Read somewhere that Club H is best on Wednesdays to party, possibly try to pick up some civvies. I enjoy the nightlife, hitting up clubs and bars in the cities I monger. Helps to me from dulling my other attributes, and keep them sharp. Its nice and easy to pay for it, due to convenience, but nice to know you can still get freebies with some effort while enjoying the thrill of the hunt.
    Jakarta is a very easy place to pick up civvs if you have the confidence and not too old. Offer to buy a drink and you very successful. Indo girls can sometimes be shy and not talkative. Probably is language. Some don't speak good english and hard to talks in nightclub. H Club is good. You can also check out TCC which is the same Senopati area. A bit more higher end. If your staying in SCBD, there is group of more nightlife disco in the triangle plaza across from Langham and Equity tower. I am forgetting the name, but it has a red / white awning. You can't miss it. In there is club call zoo which had a lot of younger hot indos and expat guys who love them.

  9. #20542

    Oops I did it again, went back to emporium that is.

    28 May.

    I had a resonably busy day, but also time to contemplate evening activities. I'd had a really good night the evening before and wondered for the first time about repeating the experiance.

    The old adage its never as good as the first time, generally holds true, but it can be pretty close but different.

    I messaged David about 6 pm and said I was considering coming, did he have any new suggestions, I said I had a good time with the girls last night so if he had other suggestions, he said he was not sure but maybe I could repeat book the girls, I thought to myself why not. So I booked them in for 8 pm.

    When I arrived I head up to the lounge and meet david, I check with him about time in the room, if we skip the pool do we get extra time, and he says no, only 1 hour in the room, and 30 minutes in the pool or lounge drinking and chatting.

    Off he goes to get the girls who were were in red today. And off to the pool.

    I had a realisation that this would actually be the first time I have ever repeated with girls in Indo, so was curious how it would be.

    Our rapport was better, none of the getting to know you questions, so we had a bit of pool play and discussed various things, found out one of the girls fantasises about gangbangs and will do anal, we discussed that abit as the second girl was a big no no on anal, but wanted me and the first girl to try, she said mentioned she does not like the start but once warmed up enjoys it, I've done it a few times and under the right circumstances if I'm feeling a little filthy its OK, but its not something I activly seek anymore.

    Discussed a few other personal subjects which I won't go into, but either way we were more comfortable with each other made things easire in the room.

    Off to the room, and we bump into another pretty girl on the way down, a friend of the girls I'm with she gives me the v tounge licking sign and says I should take her too, have 3 ladies, she was cute enough, but I'm already limited to an hour and really don't feel like extending the time.

    In the room, being more comfortable the girls are aleady naked under their robes, so a quick swill of mouthwash and we jump in bed.

    I limit the chitchat this time and jump straight into alternately kissing them and caressing them, I have them lie side by side and straddle them so I have easy access to both, fondelling kissing fingering etc etc.

    I switch them around, I'm on all 4's and have one girl slide under and blow me while I kiss and finger the other, and on and on it goes, I bring squirty girl to the brink several times but she doesn't want to be a firehose tonight, which is fine, but its a good tease.

    We fuck in all the positions I like, and while fucking non squirter, I notice she starts playing with herself, we change positions to doggy and she keeps going, so appears she want to finish, so I give her a helping hand and she eventually collapses to a shuddering finish, both girls giggling.

    A fresh dom, and its squirters turn, again going through the positions but I'm careful to not play with her clit too much as she does not want to squirt.

    I should mention they were much more comfortable touching and caressing each other during this session, I don't think either of them has an interest in girls, but they were will to act the part than during the first session and better than alot of thai threesome places iv'e been to in the past.

    So during this session I had super power, aided by a sneaky half of a sidegra, I don't actually need it under normal circumstances, but had my GP give me a perscription and I can pick up legit stuff at home for cheaper than thailand, I'm not sure about here, but I'm not keen to buy off the street.

    So half a blue pill had me fucking for a good 45 minutes, my heart was racing both girls were completely spent, but I was still going, they were troopers, I was slowing down though, so I lay back, switched doms again and had the first girl ride me again as she has good rhythm and tightness, she almost got me there, but then collapsed she had no more power.

    So off with the Dom and squirter give me a BJ to completion while the other girl kisses me to death, she is actually pretty good and can get quite deep.

    It was fortunate timing as the phone rang a minute later. We talk abit as we tidy up and I find out the take out fee is 7 juta, the girl get 3-4 juta and stays until morning.

    KTV is approx 2. 6 Juta or 2. 8 juta + minimum 1. 5 Juta food and beverage package, you get 2 hours in KTV and 1 hour in room, if you want them naked in the KTV its another 1. 2 Juta.

    Pricing is the same if you want to take them to the club.

    Anyway they offer to take me sight seeing and selfie taking, which is nice, but I only have a couple days left.

    I tip them an extra 100 k each and off they go.

    I chat to david on the way out about the KTV, sounds fun, pricing for a solo guy is not cheap, david thinks I should have a party ofcourse he does its part of his job to sell.

    Anyway I had a great time again, I'll probably not take those 2 again, but not opposed to others in the future.

    I'll likely venture elseware tomorrow, but hit emporium early on my last day as its convenient.

  10. #20541

    Redemption

    ISG been so flaky the the few days.

    27 May Emporium.

    Redemption comes in many forms, mine was found in the arms of two lovely ladies at Emporium.

    Today was moving day, plus some work and a teams meeting (No rest for the wicked as the saying goes).

    New hotel makes Emporium an easy choice, and at least I know David will look after me, I was in need of some redemption after a couple of what could be called poor showings at classic.

    I let David know I am coming and arrive just after 7 pm, no massage for me today so we head up to the lounge and I take a seat front and centre, I know some like to hide in the back in the shadows and I did that myself the first few times, but now I put myself on show like the girls.

    There are not a great deal of girls seated, maybe 8 VIP and 12 Standard, I ask David if any of these match what I like, and he says maybe but not there is probably 1 in the VIP and 1 in the standard currently that look close to what I like, I ask about service, he says the VIP girl is very pretty but service is average, he has had complaints, he then looks at his phone and mumbles a couple of names, then goes to chat with the staff at the side, then disappears through the door. I wait patiently checking out the girls, then suddenly more girls appear, 2 VIP (Both of whom I have taken before and both are good), and another 8 Standard, not sure where they have all been hiding, I assume they had all had earlier customers so were in a break room, or maybe recently arrived getting ready? I don't know.

    David points out the 2 VIP girls, and also 2 standard, letting me know they all meet my requirements, then he suggests I would maybe like two, now threesomes are a funny thing, I've only had a few I've considered a success and none in Indonesia, but I have never taken 2 from Emporium, David mentions one of the girls squirts and that they both work well together and I am sold, Bonus is they both speak more English than most indo girls.

    For reference 2 VIP girls is 2. 9 juta all in and 2 standard is 2. 5 juta.

    After a brief intro, both girls collect their things and we head to the pool, the place is as busy as I've seen it, probably 3-4 guys heading to rooms as I change, another 8 across 3 tables and another 5-6 in the pool with girls.

    My two chosen arrive and into the pool we go, they alternate sitting in my lap and behind, massaging me and we small talk, they try to convince me to get in the cold pool, but I've done that once, I know its supposed to be healthy for you, but I really don't enjoy the cold any more. Spent maybe 20 minutes, then off to the room, you get a suite as part of the fee with 2 girls.

    In the room I shower and wash up, the girls use the facilities and the bum gun, we've all been in the pool and I assume they showed after the pool as I had.

    Now here is when things start looking up in comparison to previous times with 2 girls at for example classic, as I was drying of the girls, both naked piled up condoms and wipes on the bed and then lay there beckoning to me with a space for me in the middle, its hard to describe really 2 beautiful young women, 19 and 21 by their telling, but potentially early to mid twenties, small athletic bodies with great tits, smiling enthusiasm, laughing and beckoning you to lay with them, I couldn't help but leap into the bed.

    Normally I would give a bit of a play by play description, but so much happened on that bed with those girls it would take me too long to write up. But as a few highlights I received a double BJ, plus rimming BJ, confirmed that one of the girls does indeed squirt, was ridden by they other girl while the squirter played with herself firing her juice like a firehose, ridden by both, plenty of kissing etc, had one girl in doggy with the other sliding underneath because she wanted to watch, finished by banging the non squirter in doggy and had squirter stand over her facing me while we kissed and I fingered her so she squirted again.

    We collapsed on the bed and the girls cleaned me and themselves up, then lay either side of me playing affectionally and we chatted about music and movies.

    They did try to get me going again for another shot, but I was well and truly spent so just caressing and pillow talk until the phone rang for checkout, they seemed disappointed our time was up, maybe, or perhaps that was in my head again.

    One asked about tips, which did not surprise as I believe they get less on a duo, even though it includes tips so I split a few hundred k in cash between them, they were worth it.

    So I feel redeemed with the help of Emporium and David.

    Total cost about 2. 8 juta.

    After the session David took me for a tour of the KTV and Tease Club, the club is probably a bit too loud for me, but you can bring girls up from below, I think he mentioned the dancer cost 3 juta.

    It might be fun to take a couple girls to the KTV.

  11. #20540

    Kemang area

    Quote Originally Posted by GuyReynolds  [View Original Post]
    Anyone know what days are best for which specific bars / clubs? Read somewhere that Club H is best on Wednesdays to party, possibly try to pick up some civvies. I enjoy the nightlife, hitting up clubs and bars in the cities I monger. Helps to me from dulling my other attributes, and keep them sharp. Its nice and easy to pay for it, due to convenience, but nice to know you can still get freebies with some effort while enjoying the thrill of the hunt.
    How long you will stay.

    You can go to kemang bars resto but some will expect many.

    I had several meet as date from tinder who asked for many after finish leaving room.

    If there are long stay guys here they can share about their locations.

    If you younger age white.

  12. #20539

    Many thanks for your reply on your take

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabacho  [View Original Post]
    I believe another member asked me this too or said something about rolling the bareback dice killing his vibe or something like that, so I'll answer you both with this post. Allow me to elaborate.

    I have found in my mongering experiences over the years that asking for bareback or no condom before hand (and especially if other people are around or can hear) can potentially scare off girls who might have said yes in private and cause them to say no. This is especially true if they are in a group with other girls.

    What I like to do is when I talk to them before going to the room I try to read their personality if they are friendly and have a good personality that is a good sign. I will also ask if they do massage (kamu bisa pijit?) if they answer yes to that question that's another good sign, it means they are willing to do extra work to make sure you are satisfied, if they answer no to the pijit question it means they are lazy and don't really care if you are satisfied and I interpret that to be a precursor to a bad session and I will send them back to the sofa if they answer that question with a no..
    Mine is a bit different, I feel I'm a bit more rigid about this (pun not intended), I cannot stay hard with a condom at all, and I've never pulled out once in my entire life.

    That's cumming via my hand I may as well use Pornhub for free, and gambling by rolling the dice seems like it could cause issues I don't want to pay and just leave the room if that wasn't bad enough.

    If I completely abort the mission and ignore the cost of the session she may go out and tell others don't go with him he only wants BBFS, sure that could happen pre-asking as well, but at least I'm not paying for that to happen, this is another reason I avoid the place (places with pre-set rules are garbage to me).

    Many thanks again.

    In all seriousness I believe many feminist NGOs (ala Gates Foundation) and others promote condoms to destroy demand.

    Because what man in his right mind would fly so far to pay to screw 3rd world WGs with a full body condom.

    That is mind boggling and has absolutely zero value to me.

  13. #20538

    Picking up civvies

    Anyone know what days are best for which specific bars / clubs? Read somewhere that Club H is best on Wednesdays to party, possibly try to pick up some civvies. I enjoy the nightlife, hitting up clubs and bars in the cities I monger. Helps to me from dulling my other attributes, and keep them sharp. Its nice and easy to pay for it, due to convenience, but nice to know you can still get freebies with some effort while enjoying the thrill of the hunt.

  14. #20537
    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeIn6969  [View Original Post]
    I wanted to thank you for posting about Nia. She and Icha were the first girls I met in Classic and it was great that I came back the second night to the same girls. Sadly, she just got married (her husband texted me asking for the anal video "for memory", haha).
    Wow, that's too funny. Husband must be an open-minded guy. I remember her as a pleasant girl with some humor, so good for her.

  15. #20536
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabacho  [View Original Post]
    Yea but it's with a condom on so it's not real anal.

    Might as well just put a condom on and jack off it's the same fucking thing LOL.

    Gabacho.
    I'm not a risk taker like you. I enjoy the journey, not every journey has to have a destination if you know what I mean. I like interaction with the girls, bare dick to pussy contact is secondary for me.

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