Havana

[CiscoMech]

Take what I say with a grain of salt guys. Like I said everyone's journey is different. I already have a ball and chain at home so I wouldn't be caught dead dining with a chica. I just feel like it sends the wrong message to the girl that I'm looking to form long term bond with her. And the last thing I want is one of these hidden camera wannabe youtube stars to make me famous. For you single guys I can see the appeal of dining with a beautiful chica who will be extremely grateful. It's just not for me. I save the dining and nice gifts for the ball and chain.

Also, I'm definitely one of those stick to my Airbnb type of guys. If I do go out in that sweltering heat I generally stay within the vicinity of my Airbnb so I can circle back before I die of heat stroke unless. I'm going to the beach for a quick swim, the grocery store, or to hunt chicas. I grew up in the Caribbean so to me there isn't really shit to go see that I haven't already seen. I can see the appeal of exploration to a gringo though. To me Cubas only resource worth anything is its people.

[MongerHunger]

2 Quick questions. Filming. What is the average upsell for filming your encounters with girls and well. How open are they to that?

Second question. I've been thinking about this. I saw a video of a guy walking on San Rafael where all he does is film the people. I saw a video from a year ago. And one from 2 months ago. The same girl which I noticed because she's just my type. Popped up on both videos. With a cute smile / wink. She's a worker alright. For the girls in San Rafael. What do you guys think it's their "number" of men that have seen them?

I assume it's lower than escorts here in the US or street girls who might see 3-4 men per day. But for Cuban girls. What are we looking at?

Don't ever compare what your experience can be to others. It all varies. I don't care what others are paying because I do my own negotiations on what I feel is reasonable. Set your own rates and negotiate from there and maybe meet in the middle. Don't be a Sucker or a Simp.

There is no way to know how much mileage a girl on San Rafael has so don't even bother worrying, wondering or trying to do the math. It's useless because who really knows except for her?

If you are worried about what is going on that is out of your control then maybe you should look elsewhere for something that is more your speed and predictable. Don't be gullible or naive when it comes to this Hobby.

[Kabah2025]

2 Quick questions. Filming. What is the average upsell for filming your encounters with girls and well. How open are they to that?

Second question. I've been thinking about this. I saw a video of a guy walking on San Rafael where all he does is film the people. I saw a video from a year ago. And one from 2 months ago. The same girl which I noticed because she's just my type. Popped up on both videos. With a cute smile / wink. She's a worker alright. For the girls in San Rafael. What do you guys think it's their "number" of men that have seen them?

I assume it's lower than escorts here in the US or street girls who might see 3-4 men per day. But for Cuban girls. What are we looking at?

[Jiniterinator]

Good points.

It is ironic to say this on this website of all things, but different strokes for different folks. Not everyone is like you or me, so try not to judge how a man has his fun. I'm older and my Spanish is worse than Santo, but YMMV.

Back when I went 20 years ago I was of course younger, and I acted like a raging alkie maniac there. The last night, a girl I was with was telling me in bed that she had to leave in the morning, and I was like, yeah yeah, no problem, I'll call you a cab in the morning, through my drunken, poor Spanish speaking brain. She kept insisting, until I realized in my bad Spanish that she was saying it is morning. We'd partied all night, and with blackout curtains, I wasn't aware the sun was already up and she needed to sneak into her house before mama knew she was missing. So I had to get out of bed and out her in a cab and get ready to leave for the airport, still drunk and hungover. And that wasn't my only all-nighter on that trip.

I'm much too old for that now. It's all about sustainability now. 2-3 Cristales, wham, bam, thank you m'aam, and I'm good. YMMV!

I agree, Cuba is so cheap, why not take one of your favorites out to dinner (as opposed to eating alone? Who are you trying to impress with your behavior in Cuba? Have fun in your own way.

With that said, some aspiring mongers come on here contemplating their first trip to Cuba and don't know the ropes. I definitely think buyer beware is a good approach until you have a feel for the place. Cubanas can be extremely charming and manipulative, even by woman standards. I'll just suggest, don't make the first Cuban girl you hook up with your girlfriend for the entire trip. Girls will respect "no" more than they will yes, so you have to employ both, even with girls you really like and are into you. You can always circle back and see her again. But try to keep some degree of dread in her mind (FOMO).

OK I got to stop procrastinating and finish packing.

Everyone mongers differently and while I was going to ignore Cisco's comment regarding "wining and dining"; after reading Jiniterinator's post, I got to chime in.

If this were DR (where albeit I do engage in the same behavior), where dining at the best restaurants for two will easily run you $80-$100, I would definitely have less of a leg to stand on here; but in Cuba, can spending $20 on a meal instead of $10 REALLY be considered "wining and dining"? I mean seriously.

As previously mentioned, everyone mongers differently. I prefer to hunt for the best restaurants, clubs and extracurricular activities when I visit a city. Collect valuable intel. While those things can all be done alone, I don't find it nearly as enjoyable. Thankfully my Spanish is an 8-9/10 and I'm still in my 20's, so I generally keep a main non-pro with me (in this case my slim brown thang) to experience those things and bang working girls on the side as a hobby..

[Woodenlivers]

I do this on trips to Brazil and make 10 bags for 10 girls, literal cheat code. The girls there go ape shit for Victoria Secret stuff. They have stores there, but it's really expensive for them. They equate it on the same luxury level as LV, Gucci, Prada, etc, even though its regular mall shit for us that is dirt cheap. I haven't been to Cuba yet (planning a trip for next year, maybe Feb), but I'll gauge reactions when I go. If it makes no difference to them, I'll explore cheaper options. Those sexy lace panties are 10 pairs for $40 ($4 each), instead of $12 each. The body sprays are large, 250 ML. Only $8 each if you buy 5 or more, instead of $20 each. Don't bother with the travel size sprays because they are also $20 each, no deals. If you bring body sprays, you'll have to bring them in a checked bag. The 100 ML limit only applies to carry on. I try to make each bag cost me no more than $30. For Cuba, I'll fluff the bag with small travel size essentials that I can get wholesale for cheap. MongerHunger mentioned Badia Sazon Completa. LOL, I almost spit out my Dr Pepper when I read that, but makes sense. Fuck, I feel bad now for laughing.

Whenever I see a new young girl with a kung-fu grip that really puts in the work and gives me that 5 star service, I give them the gift on their way out when they aren't expecting anything except what was previously agreed upon. Ever since I started doing this, the repeat service I get from the girls I keep on roster is always 5 stars. The amount of freebies and overall "value" I've received back definitely dwarf the cost of an $30 bag. Bath and Body works has some good deals right now. $10 for 6 pocket hand sanitizers ($1. 66 each), and $4 for the full sized 259 ML hand soaps. I'll throw a few of those in my Cuba goodie bags.

[Huacho]

Freezing water is NOT effective at killing bacteria.

[KingSanto]

Everyone mongers differently and while I was going to ignore Cisco's comment regarding "wining and dining"; after reading Jiniterinator's post, I got to chime in.

If this were DR (where albeit I do engage in the same behavior), where dining at the best restaurants for two will easily run you $80-$100, I would definitely have less of a leg to stand on here; but in Cuba, can spending $20 on a meal instead of $10 REALLY be considered "wining and dining"? I mean seriously.

As previously mentioned, everyone mongers differently. I prefer to hunt for the best restaurants, clubs and extracurricular activities when I visit a city. Collect valuable intel. While those things can all be done alone, I don't find it nearly as enjoyable. Thankfully my Spanish is an 8-9/10 and I'm still in my 20's, so I generally keep a main non-pro with me (in this case my slim brown thang) to experience those things and bang working girls on the side as a hobby.

Some guys enjoy staying in their AirBnB and staring at the ceiling all day so that they can be in bed by 10 PM; and while there's nothing wrong with that, I prefer to take on a city in its entirety and master it before I move on.

Now, having said that, I would never "wine and dine" a jinetera. I'm not superman and I don't wear a cape when I enter these countries. I also don't send money when I'm outside of the country; but I do thoroughly enjoy discovering what the city has to offer with a beautiful non-pro that I don't have to pay on my hip.

I would hope that anyone who's been mongering for more than 6 months would be able to tell the difference between a jinetera and a non-pro but then again, common sense ain't always so common and depending on who you ask, every girl in Cuba is a jinetera. A sentiment that I strongly disagree with; but I digress.

[Jiniterinator]

Some good stuff in today's posts! A few thoughts.

I first went to Cuba over 20 years ago, back when there were no direct flights from USA. I went through Montreal, with an American friend whose mother was born in Cuba. But I had not been back until late 2023. That first trip I was left with a lasting impression much like Skinny Gallo's. I think the thing that stuck out to me most was that just about every girl in the country is "in play" so to speak. If you can speak any Spanish (the more the better, and I'm a 3-4/10), you can pull just about any chick if you don't look like Jabba the Hut. Not every chick, but say 7 or 8/10. I was just blown away at how game the girls were in Cuba. Example: We were picked up these two chicas off the street, just sitting bored on a park bench. We took them to get a snack on some vending cart, when an absolutely beautiful girl walked up to the cart and gave me a smile. True abundance.

Those were the glory days, when hot jineteras walked the streets at night on the Malecon in high heels and short skirts. It's definitely more subtle now, and there were some major crackdowns on streetwalkers once Havana became internationally known for its jinateras. It's now the Internet era and I'll leave it at that.

Jump ahead to today, and I've been like 8 times total and have two trips planned this summer and I am considering a third. Some thoughts:

Anyone can buy a "permanent" I. E, 330 day SIM card. If you go more than once it's worth it, and if you're only going once in that period they make great gifts if there is any data left on it. I don't think we can post links here, so look up the suenacuba site. You can buy the SIM online with a US credit card and pick it up from the Etecsa store in Old Havana (and many other areas) with ID (use your passport not DL). Look for Cubacel National SIM Card, and select the drop-down option "Cubacel Cuba Permanent SIM card (+250 CUP) - Price 45.14". And be sure to have them activate it for you while there because it is not intuitive (if your Spanish sucks, use a translator in advance and have your Spanish requests ready to go when they help you). I have done this twice so I know it works. I'm actually doing it again this trip for a friend. Also, be sure to pre-load your apps if you have an iPhone. Whatapp, VPN, maps. Me with Havana map pre-downloaded, La Nave etc. It is very difficult to access the App Store from Cuba even with a VPN.

I recently bought a non-US version of iPhone 16 that takes physical SIM's, and it's easy to switch back and forth in iOS from your US number (which is good when you are on WiFi in your casa) and the Cubacel SIM when you're walking about. This Etecsa store is on Obispo and any visitor should be walking that street anyway, because it has many good shops and some girls. Honestly you should be exploring on foot the various streets to find little tiendas everywhere. Some have my favorite pineapple sodas, other will have American chips and candy, and yet another will have an apple soda I like (I need something sweet when I am smoking cigars). There is no one-stop shopping in Cuba haha.

LOTS of good gift ideas posted below. One that goes back all the way to my first trip is panties (I. E, "blumes" in Cuban slang). Very hard to come by in Cuba and there isn't a Cubana on the island who doesn't need / want more. Amazon has plenty of cheap knock-offs. And of course you present this gift *in advance* and tell her you want to see her model it for you later (I have girls over for drinks on my balcony and chat a little before festivities begin. Feels less transactional.). It raises the excitement for both people a bit; the idea of her modeling underwear for a stranger scares and excites her.

Someone mentioned earlier. Yes, name brand samplers are available for a decent price on eBay. Every girl in Cuba LOVES perfume, not only because it is in short supply, but so is deodorant, in a hot, humid climate. They want to smell good. Look for cheap body sprays on Amazon. BTW there is a store on Ran Rafael that sells body sprays. It's a beauty supply store. But bring pesos.

Speaking of drinks, they are great facilitators and 90% of Cubanas like Cristal, so always have them in your frio nice and cold. Speaking of beer, you'll almost certainly have to pay for them with pesos (unless you walk up to a bar and get raped in dollars for carry out). I have a little tienda in Habana Vieja that does both: Exchanges dollars and sells beer. It's at the corner of Tejadillo & Villegas, right around the corner from ChaChaCha restaurant. 258 Tejadillo. Just walk up to the cashier and ask to change money. They always give the El Toque rate, and it is private, safe, and civilized, unlike street exchange deals. They typically have beer, sodas, Red Bull, red and white wine (decent imported varieties), and various sundries. This store is always my first errand once I check into my AirBNB.

A word on "dates. " I agree with Cisco, one must keep perspective and realize what these girls are. With that said, I have enjoyed taking out my favorites to check out a new bar I discovered once in a while. I can't stress enough how important being fun and agreeable is in a woman, and if you find that in a hot Cubana, it does add value to the experience, at least in mine (sorry / not sorry I am too old to fuck for 12 hours straight like some of you young bulls, so how do I fill the other 11? I have a couple on my roster that are so fun and funny, it really is time well spent just bantering. I agree, no need to wine and dine, but if you enjoy the company of one, why not check out a new bar with her on a subsequent visit? Being with a hot chick is a good way to pick up hot chicks (social approval). I've actually gotten phone numbers in bars when my chica was in the restroom. I guess I'm somewhere between Cisco and Santo (I have cute white and brown thangs in Cuba jjj) on this one. Just know what you're getting, buyer beware, and have fun however you like. As for me, I am blessed financially and I don't sweat the dollar bills. With that said, beware of becoming so SIMPy that you are not in charge, she is. That's not how Cuba should work ha ha. Or any country.

Of course they will always ask for more, so you have to have a strong pimp hand with them even if you are naturally generous. Be sure to mention to them when you are together how you hate that some girls have asked you to send them money before you've even met, or when you get home. Tell them you have to save up money just to come to Cuba and you'd never make it there otherwise (coming off as "rich" is never helpful in Cuba, which is why I wear a cheap Timex watch when I am there).

And yes you should be bringing wet wipes for personal use and as gifts. Also get a small travel pack of them an bring them in your carry on, for any cases of the runs you might encounter on the flight home (personally I don't eat *any* Cuban food when there but I am not a foodie and YMMV). Also, bar soap (get the 12 or 14 packs cheaper online) makes a great gift. They simply have nothing like our fragrant bar soap in Cuba.

Some have mentioned bricks of espresso like Cafe La Llave (few Cubans have coffee makers so brick coffee is preferred) but I have actually seen it cheaper in Cuba than on Amazon. But you can't always count on it being available. It's always a mystery what Cuban stores will have in stock on a given trip.

Amazon has these 10-packs of both lip gloss and nail polishes, and you can give one or two of each from the pack to a chica as a parting gift, very economically.

Other things I have brought to those girls in my starting lineup: Vitamins (also children's gummy vitamins if they have a kid). Also, sanitary pads for el periodo, but not tampons. They don't seem to know what tampons are in my experience jjj. And many use rags or paper towels for lack of anything else.

Band aids are also good. I always bring a little med kit for myself (band aids, topical antibiotics, analgesics, anti-diarrhea meds, etc) and give them away at the end of my trip.

Those who say to bring a power brick, yes. But I also have a foldable 25 W solar panel with USB output. Good to have anywhere, but especially in Cuba. Also consider a USB lantern for the power outages.

WRT water, you can't bring enough but obviously there are weight and size limitations. My practice is to buy the bottled Cuba water, but I freeze it before drinking to kill any possible germs.

Also bring napkins and / or paper towels for your personal use if you stay in an Airbnb and eat at home, which I do.

I'll be in Havana on Wednesday. Look for a report in a couple weeks, assuming I don't post from there. Salud!

[CiscoMech]

Some of my overall lesson learned from traveling / mongering, not just Cuba but in Brazil, DR, Colombia, Mexico, Jamaica, US, England, Portugal, Middle East, etc.

#1- None of these girls are in love with you. They only love what you do for them. Don't waste your time or money taking these girls on dates and buying them dinner and getting too attached. You only date the girl you intend to marry. I see mongers that wine and dine these girls and put them on pedestals. Send them money every month. Crash out when they realize that they are just one of many simps. These same girls are back on the strip as soon as their sugar daddy leaves. The only loyalty they have is to their native boyfriend and their family.

#2- if you decide to go full native and marry these rural girls with no formal education you should understand the type of partner you're getting and what you're signing up for. That jungle bunny might feel exotic and be a dream in bed, but as with all women beauty fades. You introduce her to a comfortable life and she will inevitably turn into an entitled, nagging couch potato. This cycle has been repeated since the first caveman invited the first cavewoman into his cave. The biggest concern that should worry you is your legacy. What happens when you die or leave and your jungle bunny wife in charge of everything who doesn't have basic life skills like balancing a checkbook, planning a funeral, mitigating taxes, replacing a roof, etc. Watch how quickly everything you invested in or built will fall apart without the right partner. Fuck them but don't start a family with them.

#3- don't bite off more than you can chew. Having 2 girls at once is a great bucket list experience when done right. I'm still grinning ear to ear Every time I think about mine. But I think It might be a bit overrated and probably won't do it again. I like the one on one experience where my attention isn't divided and it's generally not a good idea to be outnumbered behind closed doors when you are far from home. For the guys trying to have 3-4+ chicks at the same time it's not worth it. Use what happened to that young man in Columbia as a cautionary tale.

#4- keep your monger life and personal life separate. You might fantasize about that girl next door or the girl at work, but all girls are drama. Guys get caught up everyday at work or at home and lose their careers or relationships all because they couldn't keep it in their pants long enough to make a sensible mongering plan. There are beautiful women all over the world and they are all fucked up in one way or another. Just chill out and be a consummate professional day to day and make an intentional plan to let the deviant flag fly far away from the empire you are building.

Take this all with a grain of salt. Every monger is at a different stage in their journey and does things differently.

[MongerHunger]

Thanks for the advice on the SIM card, I will do that next time. Asking a girl to cook or maybe cook together could be a good icebreaker. One girl who came to see me was so nervous that she was shaking. I gave her good massage to relax her, combined with pussy massage. By treats, you mean small gift bag with some beauty products or something food realated?

Treats can be whatever you want or whatever you think girls like. I wouldn't go overboard with it but something that can be useful or thoughtful. Wouldn't invest too much money on it.

[MongerHunger]

I felt more comfortable having the line in my name instead of hers (or some random Cuban) - you never know.

I've been using that SIM for years, no problems. Just reload the SIM online before arriving in Cuba. I'm not that paranoid.

[Skinny Gallo]

When you return to Cuba have one of the local chicas get you a CubaCel SIM card for locals. Don't use that tourist SIM card. The local sim card last for about a year if unused but if you reload it before it expires it will last about a year from your last load. I think 335 days, so keep reloading and use the same number. Cost is about 1 K CUP. I've been using the same SIM for years. Also bring the chicas a few treats and maybe let a few cook some local dishes for you.

Have fun on your next one!

Thanks for the advice on the SIM card, I will do that next time. Asking a girl to cook or maybe cook together could be a good icebreaker. One girl who came to see me was so nervous that she was shaking. I gave her good massage to relax her, combined with pussy massage. By treats, you mean small gift bag with some beauty products or something food realated?

[KingSanto]

I would also recommend getting a permanent line. I got one for $45 via suenacuba (same company that does the tourist Sims, just google permanent line). My slim brown thang offered to put it in her name for me for the 1000 peso charge that the locals pay but I felt more comfortable having the line in my name instead of hers (or some random Cuban) - you never know.

KS.

When you return to Cuba have one of the local chicas get you a CubaCel SIM card for locals. Don't use that tourist SIM card. The local sim card last for about a year if unused but if you reload it before it expires it will last about a year from your last load. I think 335 days, so keep reloading and use the same number. Cost is about 1 K CUP. I've been using the same SIM for years. Also bring the chicas a few treats and maybe let a few cook some local dishes for you.

Have fun on your next one!

[MongerHunger]

I was only 4 days in Havana form may 23-26 (more like a 3 days - 26th I was leaving).

It was my first time in Cuba.

I was scared before going, and after the first day, I just wanted to return. I was annoyed by almost everything, shit on the streets, people trying to scam me, bici telling me it's $5 or 700 peso etc. But it was my "fight to flight" mechanism kicking in. I remember someone here said, give yourself a day or 2, and it's true, got to be a little patient. I will not go into the details of girls and meeting them (badoo was mostly for me, in app chat, WhatsApp and then schedule meeting) but they just jumped on my dick raw with me putting the condom in the middle of the whole thing, not ready to send money for a newborn yet..

When you return to Cuba have one of the local chicas get you a CubaCel SIM card for locals. Don't use that tourist SIM card. The local sim card last for about a year if unused but if you reload it before it expires it will last about a year from your last load. I think 335 days, so keep reloading and use the same number. Cost is about 1 K CUP. I've been using the same SIM for years. Also bring the chicas a few treats and maybe let a few cook some local dishes for you.

Have fun on your next one!

[MongerHunger]

Also, jiniterinater made a great tip too about the shopping bags. If you arbe fortunate enough to even get shopping bags in Cuba they are made out of 1-ply toilet paper and you often have to pay like 5 or 10 pesos for it. I bring my own heavy duty shopping bag that I get from Trader Joe's with me.

It is a great tip. I always bring a lot of plastic shopping bags to Cuba. I have plenty to bring. The chicas like them and reuse them as I mostly reuse them as trash bags. Sugar is a hot commodity also and they love that Goya Sazon. Some other items to consider bringing are: Badia Sazon Completa, Salt, Pepper, Canned Tuna, Spam, Dry Pasta, Rice, Red Beans, Lentils, Chocolate, Disposable Shaving Razors, Bar Soap, Make Up, Body Spray, Sour Candy like Sour Patch Kids, Blow Pops or Chupa Chupa, Tooth Brushes and Paste, Wash Clothes and anything to do with Finger Nail Maintenance. These have always been a hit with the chicas so you can't go wrong with them. This is just a partial list. I usually bring more items for more success.

Happy Hunting and Happy Humping!