Seeking Arrangements

[CherchezFemme]

VanessasClient.

Your reply is depressing but rings of truth. There are no guarantees are there? Plus women are far less reliable than men. Add in the fact that these girls are pros and most pros IME are average intelligence at best, and tend towards the dumb side of the bell curve. It's crazy how slow some of them are to respond. With most you can't send them a long message with multiple ideas and questions because they won't reply to 90% of it.

Let's see if someone else chimes in.

[CherchezFemme]

Great tip on the location, thanks.

That's going to happen if you have your location (city) set to the USA. I NEVER use the seeking app, or seeking from the browser on my phone, because the site will ask for location permission. Which might conflict with the location you specify. I ONLY use seeking from a desktop computer, which I will not be prompted for location access, and can set my city to wherever I goddamn well please, without a VPN.

With all the experience I have in life now, it is beyond me why anyone would pursue a gringa woman in this day and age.

[VanessasClient]

Guys, I want to fly a provider to meet me in Europe. Most of these girls I met in Brazil.

I would like advice on how much I should pay (roughly) and advice on how to set up the behavior I expect. Would love to hear from those who have actually done it and can give advice based on experience. What I mean is how to inoculate against possible problems such as her saying she has a headache, her period started early (I'll still want to fuck). Basically how to install the frame that even though we're going to have fun she needs to be PROFESSIONAL and behave like a professional.

I want her to hang with me a few days in my hometown, then travel a bit around Italy and probably Spain and Portugal. I want sex 2 x a day and of course I would want a nice fun attitude and no whining.

I only want to bring a girl I've already fucked, which leaves me with these choices. UNLESS you think I can do it successfully without knowing the girl beforehand. There are a lot of girls in Brazil and Colombia!

The girls I know:

1 - fantastic girl, sweet and we really had good chemistry, 25 yo. My top choice, but she is replying less and less to my messages and didn't say much to my offer of flying her to Europe, other than saying she was afraid of long flights. So I can't count on her.

2 - Nice enough girl, 22, but very Gen Z. A little moody, a bit quiet, a bit slow to respond, her IG is nothing but anime memes. She seems the most interested. I'm slightly concerned that she wouldn't be 100 percent compliant.

3- Nice girl, 28, a bit dumb but that's probably a bonus. Does not have a passport. Not sure she can get her act together and get an expedited passport in time.

4- a real pro, she's already done 2 tours of Europe working as an independent escort. She would do it but will probably ask too much. She's smart with her money (and good for her).

So any advice is welcome.

I've done it before, but won't do it anymore, unless the girl shows initiative; and 90% + of girls will not. I had success on 3 occasions in a row, with the same girl that I would continue to see. Were it not for the fact that she inadvertently got pregnant with another man's baby. She's going to keep the baby and attempt to start a family with the man; I have no clue whether it will work. Regardless.

There's another girl I tried it with last year. Like the other girl, she is someone I had spent time with before. First time she bailed because she claimed her grandmother was in the hospital. Lucky for me I had a refundable ticket with LatAm, so they covered me. I spoke to the hotel manager, and he also covered me on her room. But, I still lost money on some of the tours I had scheduled for she and I. The 2nd time I was willing to take much less risk, given my prior experience with her. So I said "if you want to see me and go on this vacation, you'll need to ride the bus" So I got her a bus ticket that cost $40 USD. She failed to get to the bus station on time, and blamed it on the rain. So from here on out, if she wants something from me, she's going to have to pay off her debt with the only bodily organ she has of any value; and quit hint, it's not her brain.

Anyway, there's another girl I can think of that I get along pretty well with. But, she has asthma and is prone to unexpected health problems. And the last thing I want is to get a call 2 hours before her flight telling me she's stuck in the emergency room. Because I don't always have a fully refundable flight.

Basically the conclusion I came to was that if you setup an arrangement like this, it is completely dependent on the other person upholding their end of the bargain. If they get into a car accident on the way to the airport, you are out of money. If they forgot it was their sister's wedding or birthday party the day of the flight, you are out of money. Or if they just change their mind and decide to mess with you for whatever reason, you are also at a loss. Women in general are far more volatile and far less reliable than men, and in the end I just decided it wasn't worth the risk anymore.

Even the girl I struck gold with on those 3 occasions didn't provide sex quite as often as I would have preferred on 2 out of the 3 trips. Granted, there are legit reasons for not being in "the mood", such as a near fatal binge drinking episode resulting in a catastrophic hangover. But, even if I had pressured her or refused to pay what I agreed to, I 100% guarantee you that would have very bitterly ended that connection at bare minimum, but likely could have resulted in other repercussions. Remember, even if this woman doesn't have your room key, they know your room number. And there are few things foreign law enforcement love more than aggressively pursuing a gringo they perceive as wealthy. I wouldn't have pushed her for more sex anyhow after she already declined. Not only because it's inappropriate, but we didn't specify a specific number of times we were going to fuck before the trip; she just understood that sex was expected. Still, if you're going to take the risk on this kind of travel arrange, definitely do not pay any compensation until the very last day of the trip, ideally right before going to the airport.

I don't advise it; too risky for my taste. I'll just find a girl at my target destination. And if there are none to my liking, I'll just go alone, and with any luck I might meet someone while I'm over there. On that note, there was another girl I was talking to who had the money to pay for her own flight, and I told her I would reimburse her if her behavior on the trip was satisfactory. She declined. And that's where you'll get that 90+ % number from. More than likely 99% or higher.

[Jbob084]

Non-pro price range depends more on physical attractiveness and flirting skills of buyer than the location. Even after that $150 per meeting is too low for a client without long term prospect in most of the Europe. You might get some pro's pretending as Non-pro at that price. I see lot of pros also making profile as Non-pro on seeking in prague, I use local Czech version similar to seeking (hledamsponzora dot cz) but it's not worth the hassle for tourists. SEA or South America are far better option for your requirements.

Interesting about the Czech version. Currently in Prague, and it's filled with Ukrainian hotties. Had a fair share of them so far in the massage parlours, all model quality. Been searching for some on Seeking, can't find any. Can't be bothered with Czech women, wondering if this site you mentioned has any Ukrainian girls on there? 'Sponsor' culture is quite normalised and common with Russian and Ukrainian girls, just can't seem to find a way to access them in Prague. I've seen a few foreign older guys waking around with Ukrainian hotties too, so definitely feel like I'm missing out on something. Would appreciate some intel on this.

[CherchezFemme]

Guys, I want to fly a provider to meet me in Europe. Most of these girls I met in Brazil.

I would like advice on how much I should pay (roughly) and advice on how to set up the behavior I expect. Would love to hear from those who have actually done it and can give advice based on experience. What I mean is how to inoculate against possible problems such as her saying she has a headache, her period started early (I'll still want to fuck). Basically how to install the frame that even though we're going to have fun she needs to be PROFESSIONAL and behave like a professional.

I want her to hang with me a few days in my hometown, then travel a bit around Italy and probably Spain and Portugal. I want sex 2 x a day and of course I would want a nice fun attitude and no whining.

I only want to bring a girl I've already fucked, which leaves me with these choices. UNLESS you think I can do it successfully without knowing the girl beforehand. There are a lot of girls in Brazil and Colombia!

The girls I know:

1 - fantastic girl, sweet and we really had good chemistry, 25 yo. My top choice, but she is replying less and less to my messages and didn't say much to my offer of flying her to Europe, other than saying she was afraid of long flights. So I can't count on her.

2 - Nice enough girl, 22, but very Gen Z. A little moody, a bit quiet, a bit slow to respond, her IG is nothing but anime memes. She seems the most interested. I'm slightly concerned that she wouldn't be 100 percent compliant.

3- Nice girl, 28, a bit dumb but that's probably a bonus. Does not have a passport. Not sure she can get her act together and get an expedited passport in time.

4- a real pro, she's already done 2 tours of Europe working as an independent escort. She would do it but will probably ask too much. She's smart with her money (and good for her).

So any advice is welcome.

[DramaFree11]

I really don't think you are going to find a Seeking girl for 150 in Europe that meets your bar. The economy simply doesn't support such a low number. I've been able to find a couple GND girls in Spain at 250 but even that is not easy girls in Spain (a second tier economy) seem locked in at 300-350. Others may have deeper Euro experience than me but I doubt 150 is happening.

On the other hand finding that in Brazil is easy. I've had a few great and stunning girls at 500 R ($90) even. One became long term and travel girl.

Yep, in CDMX I am paying between $225-300 in CDMX. A little less in MTY.

[Steve 9696]

I've been reading the forum and checking out the escort sites of Athens, among other countries. After a trip to Barcelona I noticed that I would like to stick to "non-pros", as they have been the best experience in my home country. Thus, the escort sites and massage parlor reviews won't give valid information about what to expect and where to go for. I've used other platforms than Seeking, which seems to be getting more and more negative comments from hobbyists, but it's probably the best way that there is. Other ways I've used have been really demanding for time and not even efficient. Real pictures are essential, or at least to be able to get them before meeting. I'm quite a scrutinizer for body and face, even though I don't look for the miss universe type.

All I'd really want is to find one, two or three natural, cute semi-fit 20 something to cover up the sex part for a few week trip and pay them like 150 euro per meeting. Could this be achieved through Seeking in Portugal, Spain, Czech or Greece? Or is the SEA or South America the only way to fulfill this ideal arrangement?

I really don't think you are going to find a Seeking girl for 150 in Europe that meets your bar. The economy simply doesn't support such a low number. I've been able to find a couple GND girls in Spain at 250 but even that is not easy girls in Spain (a second tier economy) seem locked in at 300-350. Others may have deeper Euro experience than me but I doubt 150 is happening.

On the other hand finding that in Brazil is easy. I've had a few great and stunning girls at 500 R ($90) even. One became long term and travel girl.

[DwayneJohnson]

I've been reading the forum and checking out the escort sites of Athens, among other countries. After a trip to Barcelona I noticed that I would like to stick to "non-pros", as they have been the best experience in my home country. Thus, the escort sites and massage parlor reviews won't give valid information about what to expect and where to go for. I've used other platforms than Seeking, which seems to be getting more and more negative comments from hobbyists, but it's probably the best way that there is. Other ways I've used have been really demanding for time and not even efficient. Real pictures are essential, or at least to be able to get them before meeting. I'm quite a scrutinizer for body and face, even though I don't look for the miss universe type.

All I'd really want is to find one, two or three natural, cute semi-fit 20 something to cover up the sex part for a few week trip and pay them like 150 euro per meeting. Could this be achieved through Seeking in Portugal, Spain, Czech or Greece? Or is the SEA or South America the only way to fulfill this ideal arrangement?

Non-pro price range depends more on physical attractiveness and flirting skills of buyer than the location. Even after that $150 per meeting is too low for a client without long term prospect in most of the Europe. You might get some pro's pretending as Non-pro at that price. I see lot of pros also making profile as Non-pro on seeking in prague, I use local Czech version similar to seeking (hledamsponzora dot cz) but it's not worth the hassle for tourists. SEA or South America are far better option for your requirements.

[NoBuglyFitches]

Athens is full of Ukrainian girls, escort rates are around 150 euro

What's a good site or agency for escorts in Athens?

[HumbleHal]

retarded concepts such as the Oedipus complex.

I usually eat-a-puss complexly if allowed.

[Desin]

Athens is full of Ukrainian girls, escort rates are around 150 euro. Filis street "wham bam thank you mam" privats are cheaper but that also means escort rates do not explode like rest of Europe. However if you only hunt on seeking then rates are very similar in most of the Europe. Barcelona is slightly cheaper for escorts than Athens but girls are less taller than Athens and slightly more percentage of brunettes to blonde or ginger.

I've been reading the forum and checking out the escort sites of Athens, among other countries. After a trip to Barcelona I noticed that I would like to stick to "non-pros", as they have been the best experience in my home country. Thus, the escort sites and massage parlor reviews won't give valid information about what to expect and where to go for. I've used other platforms than Seeking, which seems to be getting more and more negative comments from hobbyists, but it's probably the best way that there is. Other ways I've used have been really demanding for time and not even efficient. Real pictures are essential, or at least to be able to get them before meeting. I'm quite a scrutinizer for body and face, even though I don't look for the miss universe type.

All I'd really want is to find one, two or three natural, cute semi-fit 20 something to cover up the sex part for a few week trip and pay them like 150 euro per meeting. Could this be achieved through Seeking in Portugal, Spain, Czech or Greece? Or is the SEA or South America the only way to fulfill this ideal arrangement?

[GoingDumb]

I recently saw a travel show where the host encouraged connecting with locals. It made me think about how that's an unexpected benefit of sa. I had great experiences a few years ago in bcn, and really enjoyed practicing my spanish with locals. My favorite experience was with a girl I don't think I would've picked on paper (more alt looking, bi, vegan) but who was super fun to hang out with and great in bed. I even liked the vegan places we went LOL. It didn't hurt my hotel had a nice rooftop pool and bar so we'the hang out there and have a few cocktails before going in. I'll never forget her carrying a large purse with all her sex toys in it to dinner so we could use them later LOL or fucking her in fishnets.

Going back to bcn in a few months with sb I've been seeing and probably going to stay at the same hotel. Last time I found a fun spot to fuck outside at the hotel. Sb would be down for it but wondering if showing her will make her ask questions LOL.

[DwayneJohnson]

About the issue of Seeking, is there a country in Europe or nearby that would provide university aged girls with 100-150 euros per hour or 200-250 for 2-3 hours?

I'd like to spend holiday on a country where it's cheaper than the local 200/250 per hour tax. I'm quite interested in Prague, but I guess that place would be 200+ per hour.

Athens is full of Ukrainian girls, escort rates are around 150 euro. Filis street "wham bam thank you mam" privats are cheaper but that also means escort rates do not explode like rest of Europe. However if you only hunt on seeking then rates are very similar in most of the Europe. Barcelona is slightly cheaper for escorts than Athens but girls are less taller than Athens and slightly more percentage of brunettes to blonde or ginger.

[Desin]

Lovely rant, VanessasClient. But I see you lack any understanding about the issue you are raving about.

...retarded concepts such as the oedipus complex.

And definitely let's not talk about Madonna / working girl-complex. On a *****monger forum. No sexual deviants here!

About the issue of Seeking, is there a country in Europe or nearby that would provide university aged girls with 100-150 euros per hour or 200-250 for 2-3 hours?

I'd like to spend holiday on a country where it's cheaper than the local 200/250 per hour tax. I'm quite interested in Prague, but I guess that place would be 200+ per hour.

[HumbleHal]

The "father complex" idea was invented by one Sigmund freud.

All you need to understand about Sigmund Freud is his theory about "Penis Envy. " Women wish they had a penis- because they envy yours, so be sure to give it to them. Long, hard, fast, slow. Put it in and take it out. Turn it all about, that's the hokey pokey!