Stupid Shit in Brazil

[Bravo]

You guys are paying $200-300 dollars a night for a freaking DV girl? WTF? What happened to Rio that we are paying such absurd prices? No wonder these girls are bragging about the "stupid gringos" in their whatsapp groups and showing picture of their financial windfalls! You guys do remember that "We don't have to pay the prices that they ask for" right? Trust, I understand that prices don't stay the same forever, but $300 a night, that just plane out of this world.

I don't know who to blame more, the youtubers or the young guys who have lost their minds. I saw a Instagram video a couple of weeks ago where a young pretty carioca proudly proclaimed that "If you are broke, don't come to Rio!! You guys want to spend 100 dollars for pussy and you are cheap! Stay home if you are broke!" I was shocked. How the fuck can you make $1. 50 an hour and talk shit about a man who has 100 bucks in his pocket. Please someone, make it make sense. Thank goodness I have a large black book of numbers at my disposal, I don't have to pay these ridiculous prices!

They are trying to make Rio prices equal to Miami escort prices!

[Vagabundo1]

Pornstars and publications.

Analogies?

Pornstars and publications.

Which, with regard to mongering Vagabundo has some experience in, as he was Buttman's lawyer and internet pro. At least for a few years in the late 2000's.

So.

Same chick. For example, Ana Foxxx. (PM me for her personal #, go bang her in las vegas, for like 100 x the price as a porn star in Rio).

You can find her pics in.

1. Hustler.

2. EvilAngel videos / website.

3. Penthouse.

4. Playboy.

She is the same exact girl in all of those publications.

She stays in Vegas at the Hard Rock Hotel, you can go talk to her in the lobby. And Noemie Bilas. And Anne Amari. And Elsa Jean.

If you have enough money, you can bang her at the Trump Tower. The Marriott. The Hyatt.

Or if you just want a hot piece of fuckable kunt wrapped around your penis, you can fuck a Ana Foxxx look alike in Vila Mimosa, in Mosaico, in any sex motel in Rio de Janeiro (see guiadomoteis).

You could have found her at some point in her career anywhere from the Inland Empire, where she was a high school hot little negra, or in Fig, where she lived with her bro who was some kind of thug with guns, or you could have found her in Evil Angel in porn valley, or the Hustler building, or in the Penthouse offices or locations getting her vagina photographed for that fine medical journal -- or Playboy!

The point is it is the same girl. If you live in Rio de Janeiro, your see the SAME GIRL, like Penelope 4 x4 2020 when she was 18 fresh from Minas Gerais, who also was in Perola Negra, and who worked at all the higher end clinicas in SP and Scandallo, who then went to Europe, and who is now in Bali.

It's the same girls.

Vagabundo saw the old Bella Donna the other day at a sushi place on Olegario Maciel, which is the best terma in Brazil -- not just Perola Negra, but the whole beach from posto 1 (praia dos amadores, beach of lovers) to posto 3. It was years later and she is not all that.

Look, all this talk on ISG (try to find scandallo on the local board, GP-Guia.net!) about scandallo is a sure sign of Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome by travelers who haven't figured out their situation so they can invest it in what really counts -- daily Brazilian kunts. Plural. As in two a day. Not just Brazilian, but Cuban, American, kunts from Denmark, and Finland, oh my god, Finland. Because Brazilian kunts make global kunts sluttier.

OK, I don't care if you are Elon Musk. Elon Musk is poorer than Vagabundo in what counts, which is daily multiple Brazilian kunts. I mean, he can probably buy plenty of Brazilian kunts, even in Texas. I mean, one of my law school classmates a little Brazilian hard body later turned up on Erosguide dot com, some of you will remember that.

But Brazilian kunts in their local environment are what it is all about.

You go on GP-Guia.net

You make your list, like a kid studies maps of disneyland.

You invite them to hotels from guiadomoteis.

Brazilians live like this, this is adult disneyland. Where in Pussy Prison, husbands settle for maybe sex once a month like in The Fixer, in Brazil, if the wife doesn't put out, hey, prostitution is legal, just go to a prive, go on gp-guia make a list of the top girls in some clinica, get there early, and make repeat apointments with the good ones. Wear a condom or get tested or both.

I think Anaggie was on the right track with the analogy but of course analogies are imperfect. The real problem tho is when people think he is talking about individual girl quality. And refute that argument with same girls work at both.

The analogy is NOT about the girls per se. It's about the overall experience. I think hotel brands might be a better analogy. Because it's about the experience. Also whereas I don't drive a Chevy one day and a Mercedes the next, I do vary my hotel stays based on whether I am looking for a top end experience like the JW or a moderate priced one like the Fairfield Inn..

[Lalabo]

Here we go again.

Why eat fine dining when McDonalds fill you up?

Why drive a Mercedes when a Chevy gets you to your destination?

Why wear a Rolex when a Timex tells the same time?

At the end of the day. To each his own.

The good news is that Scandallo got everyone covered.

Are you Mercedes / Lexus / Rolex lover, then you are covered as Scandallo has lots of them.

Are you McDonalds lover, then Scandallo got you covered too as long as you are willing to pay a large premium there compared to the price you would pay eating at a McDonalds location.

What would any wise man spend money on at Scandallo? Hint: not McDonalds or Timex.

[The Cane]

I think Anaggie was on the right track with the analogy but of course analogies are imperfect. The real problem tho is when people think he is talking about individual girl quality. And refute that argument with same girls work at both.

I would say that Scan the JW. And casarao used to be the Fairfield Inn. But since the remodel it's now a Sheraton or Marriott.

The "same girls" argument is seriously flawed and diminished by the fact that it's not a lot of the same girls. Will you find some working both clubs? Yes, you will. But it's an insignificant number. It would serve to change my calculus otherwise. But since the number isn't significant it doesn't. And as far as Casarao being like the Marriott? Well, if they truly renovated those heavily used rooms OK. I guess I might have to give it another try when I head to Brazil later this year. I will stay for a month between Sampa, Salvador (new for me), and Rio. So, we shall see!

[Steve 9696]

I think Anaggie was on the right track with the analogy but of course analogies are imperfect. The real problem tho is when people think he is talking about individual girl quality. And refute that argument with same girls work at both.

The analogy is NOT about the girls per se. It's about the overall experience. I think hotel brands might be a better analogy. Because it's about the experience. Also whereas I don't drive a Chevy one day and a Mercedes the next, I do vary my hotel stays based on whether I am looking for a top end experience like the JW or a moderate priced one like the Fairfield Inn.

I would say that Scan the JW. And casarao used to be the Fairfield Inn. But since the remodel it's now a Sheraton or Marriott. Scan it is not but it's pretty damn nice now and I like it a lot. As Cane says do both. When I want to feel like the king of the world I go to Scan. When I want to fuck a pretty girl for less I go to Casarao. I often do both the same night.

I will state the following things that I think most people will say are factual:

1. Scan is a much larger club with more varied environments to socialize in.

2. Scan is considerably more luxurious than Casa.

3. There are on average more pretty girls at Scan than Casa.

4. A gem can be found at either. A dud can be found at either.

5. Improperly negotiated a Casa girl is more likely to try to CBJ you than a Scan girl.

6. Service at Scan is far superior if u buy a bottle. The waiters are top notch. And there is no such thing at Casa. Only bartenders.

Again I am not saying Scan is better. Casa is better in CPF any day. They both have their place and both are great. And seriously Casa used to be Fairfield Inn and is now Marriot (ish). If you haven't been since the Reno you should def go.

[Rahsta]

Here we go again.

Why eat fine dining when McDonalds fill you up?

Why drive a Mercedes when a Chevy gets you to your destination?

Why wear a Rolex when a Timex tells the same time?

At the end of the day. To each his own.

It's different. Some of the same girls that work in Scandolla work at Casarao. A Mercedes and a Chevy are two different cars. The cars are built using parts. You can't use a Mercedes headlight and put it in a Chevy. But the same exact girls work in both spots. I goto both.

[The Cane]

I guess someone stepped on a nerve here by calling "Cheap Charlie". First of all I'd rephrase that, if I want a slim petite young college girl with good service available for $250, why pay $1000 ? That's not cheap charlie that's called not being stupid. In the monger world, more money doesn't equate better quality.

This is actually a bad example and not based in the reality of the situation at hand. First of all, you're dealing with seasoned mongers here who know full well that paying more for sex does not somehow equate to better quality. Nobody here even made a hint of a suggestion for that proposition. The fact is that virtually all of the guys here who write reports like to utilize many of the less costly sources for procuring pussy too. That's recognition that the best quality doesn't always come with the highest expenditure. Second, the spread in price we're talking about, say between Scandallo and Casarao, is not $750 like in the example you gave. It's not anywhere even close to that! Not even (unless you're in there buying girls all kinds of drinks and expensive bottles, but that doesn't have to be). No, it's typically much more marginal, leading me to the same central conclusion. If someone doesn't want to go to Scandallo only because of the money, and they constantly try to bring up every other kind of false reason for why the club sucks (attempting to obscure the real reason which is the money), then yes they're just being a Cheap Charlie. If you have solid disposable income, and most guys who travel to monger abroad do, then the difference in cost between the two isn't going to come close to breaking the bank. Not even. It's the way you think about things, wherever you got those beliefs from. And thus, the mentality that Anaggie notes. Why go to a nice restaurant when I can get full at McDonald's? Why drive a Lexus when I can roll a Hyundai and get to the same place? And why be "stupid" and wear a Rolex when I can wear a Timex and see the same time (do they even make those anymore)? Yep, being a Cheap Charlie is a mental thing, which can influenced by not having strong disposable income (understandable in this case), but not always. A guy (the traveling international trick) can have a lot of money relative to most people and still be a Cheap Charlie. Because that's his mentality. It's how he thinks. And you become and act how you think. Think like a Cheap Charlie, and that's who and what you are. Whether you have strong disposable income or not.

[Anaggie]

Casarao has come a long way since I visited a few months ago, rooms are nicer and renovated with Bluetooth tablet controlling Ac and music with built in wall speakers. I also saw some scandallo girls there. 100-150 women. Casarao underground bar is nice and also girls are dressed nicely and are just as hot. Also there is 30 min pricing in Casarao unavailable in Scandallo. Are we unnecessarily overpaying in Scandallo for similar girl and service quality? I understand the girl quality in Scandallo and it's fair to pay for a unicorn but the entry cover + room rent is out of control. I just had a 3-way with 2 girls in scandallo and I was charged 2 x the room rent. Dude I only used 1 room.

High quality girls who are good enough for scandallo are available in Casarao because the schedule is flexible unlike Scandallo that forces them to come in 5 days / week.

Here we go again.

Why eat fine dining when McDonalds fill you up?

Why drive a Mercedes when a Chevy gets you to your destination?

Why wear a Rolex when a Timex tells the same time?

At the end of the day. To each his own.

[The Cane]

Casarao has come a long way since I visited a few months ago, rooms are nicer and renovated with Bluetooth tablet controlling Ac and music with built in wall speakers. I also saw some scandallo girls there. 100-150 women. Casarao underground bar is nice and also girls are dressed nicely and are just as hot. Also there is 30 min pricing in Casarao unavailable in Scandallo. Are we unnecessarily overpaying in Scandallo for similar girl and service quality? I understand the girl quality in Scandallo and it's fair to pay for a unicorn but the entry cover + room rent is out of control. I just had a 3-way with 2 girls in scandallo and I was charged 2 x the room rent. Dude I only used 1 room. High quality girls who are good enough for scandallo are available in Casarao because the schedule is flexible unlike Scandallo that forces them to come in 5 days / week.

I say why choose? If you like both, then patronize both for what they are and what they offer. It's like trying to pick between Sampa versus Rio. I can't. So, I always go to both places. Same with Casarao and Scandallo. Go to both. And do the clinicas in the daytime if that catches your fancy too. Do it all!

[OkSwimmer5517]

Casarao has come a long way since I visited a few months ago, rooms are nicer and renovated with Bluetooth tablet controlling Ac and music with built in wall speakers. I also saw some scandallo girls there. 100-150 women. Casarao underground bar is nice and also girls are dressed nicely and are just as hot. Also there is 30 min pricing in Casarao unavailable in Scandallo. Are we unnecessarily overpaying in Scandallo for similar girl and service quality? I understand the girl quality in Scandallo and it's fair to pay for a unicorn but the entry cover + room rent is out of control. I just had a 3-way with 2 girls in scandallo and I was charged 2 x the room rent. Dude I only used 1 room.

High quality girls who are good enough for scandallo are available in Casarao because the schedule is flexible unlike Scandallo that forces them to come in 5 days / week.

[Tasss]

The question of Colombia vs Sao Paulo gets asked occasionally on the forums. I've also asked the question before coming to here, so I think it's helpful to add one more voice to the conversation. I'll also limit this comparison between Medellin and Sao Paulo since they're a better direct comparison IMO than Bogota vs Sao Paulo.

The last two weeks I've tried to get as many data points in this city as possible, but it is still a newbie impression. All prices are standardized on 1 HR BBFS outcall to my apartment.

Mid-range: prices in the mid-range vs Medellin is fairly similar. Last year I was paying 350 k for an FB girl. In SP I was paying between 500-800 reals. The rise in COP vs USD killed Medellin's value somewhat this year. The quality at the mid-range is fairly similar as well, with one notable exception. No city really stands out for me.

Low-end: The low end is where Colombia has its biggest advantage over Brazil. This is mostly because of the Venezuelans working the streets in Colombia. There are some good looking girls available for 120-150 k COP in Plaza Botero or Santa Fe whereas I found most of the streetwalkers and predio girls I saw in SP to be undoable.

High-end: I haven't been to La Isla in Medellin but other board members say that there's no comparison in Latin America to Scandallo. The prices are also higher at the top end. Adding club fees like cover, mandatory consumables, exit or room fees, one BBFS session can easily cost $600 or more at Scan. However, there were girls I saw in Scandallo, and also Gauguin, that were super hot, hotter than any working girl I've seen in Medellin or Bogota.

Girl variety: Mestizo, black, and brown girls can be found in both countries easily. White girls are harder but not impossible to find in Colombia, whereas they're a more common in Sao Paulo. There are girls I interviewed who were natural red heads and could pass for Scottish or Irish. There were other girls I sessioned with that were brunettes and blondes that look central or eastern European. There are even Asian looking girls in SP but I'd rather go to Asia for that.

BBFS availability: as anywhere, the higher end you go, the harder it is to get BBFS. At the mid-level, my BBFS success rate is only marginally lower than with FB girls in Medellin or Seeking girls in Bogota. Casarao was my main hunting ground for girls who take BB and I've had takers including one girl who formerly worked at Scan and another who could place among the top third of hotness in Scandallo. But at those higher end clubs themselves, BBFS is difficult just because of the venue.

Take-home availability: this might not be everyone's cup of tea but SEA spoiled me with take home service where I can relax and not have to deal with door knocking. In Colombia, take-home is essentially available all the time because street girls are available all the time, either from Plaza Botero, Lleras, or Santa Fe in Bogota. Unless you go online in Brazil or you already have contacts, take-home isn't an option until late night when the clubs start going.

Food: Food options in SP is amazing. Bogota is a couple of steps behind whereas Medellin is a couple of steps behind Bogota. I might be wrong but food delivery seems more complicated for foreigners in SP since a lot of online services want CPFs or Brazilian phone numbers. I had a US plan with roaming so I couldn't get iFood inside the Uber app to work for example. I'll try to get the regular iFood app or 99 to work next time.

ATMs: ATM availability was kind of a PITA in Brazil. But behavioral changes can easily fix this problem. Go before 4 pm to the big banks and withdraw a lot of cash in multiple transactions if you need to. Google Maps was often wrong about the hours of "24 hour ATMs" and would send you to ones that either don't exist or are in stores that closed by the time you arrive. ATMs were more accessible in Colombia.

Safety: there's a real risk of getting drugged and robbed in Medellin. Girls specifically target foreigners in that city. Petty crime is common. I haven't heard of drugging being a problem in Brazil and I didn't feel uncomfortable in any of the areas I went to besides the Airbnb near Princesa Isabella park.

Flight time: Add 10 hours more round trip for SP vs either of the two major cities in Colombia. Therefore less US weekend warriors in SP.

Overall, I think SP is definitely worth checking out at least once as long as you have time and money.

[Vagabundo1]

That's righteous.

Having made the same error, I learn from you, senor.

SubCmdr,

After taking a sober look at your post in Stupid Brazil thread and my extreme over reaction to it, I want to humbly apologize to you. I am the one who went psycho here, not you and I have no real excuse for what I did. I should have read your post before overreacting to it like I did. I am under a lot of stress at the moment due to a family crisis so when I saw you had responded to my hotel post (originally in the SP thread) in the stupid Brazil thread; I instantly and foolishly jumped to the conclusion that you were launching a personal attack.

[SubCmdr]

The Cmdr accepts your apology and wishes you success with your challenge!

It's all good!

Take care of your family A. H.

The girls and the RANTS threads will be here when you get back.

You are one of the few people I respect on ISG. May not mean much to you. But it means something to me. Don't ever take anytime I right in the RANTS thread serious. It is where I have fun!

Subcmdr.

SubCmdr.

After taking a sober look at your post in Stupid Brazil thread and my extreme over reaction to it, I want to humbly apologize to you. I am the one who went psycho here, not you and I have no real excuse for what I did. I should have read your post before overreacting to it like I did. I am under a lot of stress at the moment due to a family crisis so when I saw you had responded to my hotel post (originally in the SP thread) in the stupid Brazil thread; I instantly and foolishly jumped to the conclusion that you were launching a personal attack.

I can only offer you my sincere apology for this fuckup and I have asked the moderator to remove my 2 offensive posts in the stupid Brazil and stupid Thai threads.

[Axel Heyst]

SubCmdr,

After taking a sober look at your post in Stupid Brazil thread and my extreme over reaction to it, I want to humbly apologize to you. I am the one who went psycho here, not you and I have no real excuse for what I did. I should have read your post before overreacting to it like I did. I am under a lot of stress at the moment due to a family crisis so when I saw you had responded to my hotel post (originally in the SP thread) in the stupid Brazil thread; I instantly and foolishly jumped to the conclusion that you were launching a personal attack.

I can only offer you my sincere apology for this fuckup and I have asked the moderator to remove my 2 offensive posts in the stupid Brazil and stupid Thai threads.

P.S. I tried to send you a PM, but your mailbox is full.

A. H.

[SubCmdr]

Hey Sudsy, A. H.

Who is Sudsy?

My handle is Subcmdr You better ask the white hoodie wearing individual Oakie and all his other friends like Elvis and Allover about that. Good luck finding the individual with the handle of Sudsy.