What Country has the Best Women for STR?

[Explorer8939]

While looking for new places to go, I read the forums, and here's what I look out for:

If 90% of the posts are asking where to go, it's dead, Jim.

If most of the posts are about Tinder, it's dead, Jim.

If posts are about a specific lady, it's dead, Jim.

What I look for are actual reports with financial terms included.

[Manny51]

That is certainly a good analysis, but I think many punters developed an aversion to the independent escort and high-end agency system before there was a good John review mechanism. In many markets that have switched from the open venue system, you can read honest reviews from trustable reviewers. Many don't write negative reviews, so you go with the positive reviews from guys with a lot of posts and a lot of participation, and read between the lines when they make the occasional not-as-positive comments. This system is indeed more beneficial to the ladies, but they have only partially been the drivers of change. Keeping sex work hidden is an easier compromise for politicians when it is desirable for the economy, but under relentless attack from the far right and the far left.

I promise you that many, if not most online forum reviews are fake. Forum posting isn't new. Heck, this forums has been around for a long time.

I would respectfully disagree and insist that the women are the drivers of change. Politicians don't care as long as its not in plain sight. Hell, the local politicians are the ones that frequent the venues the most. FKK's thrive in Germany because they business is transacted completely out of public view.

[Mongerer88]

The reason why some are resistant to change is because the old way was more beneficial to the punter.

1. The current social media method requires you to do more background work. The one honest broker is floating within an ocean of fake photos and listings.

2. The best venues, like the old Hotel Del Rey, had some form of vetting of the girls. Sure its not a money back guarantee, but with enough complaints, some girls get barred.

3. Bigger, more established venues tended to exist in societies where there is at least some very basic STD testing.

4. It was safer. You are just going to someone's apartment. Who knows whether there are guys there about to jump you..

That is certainly a good analysis, but I think many punters developed an aversion to the independent escort and high-end agency system before there was a good John review mechanism. In many markets that have switched from the open venue system, you can read honest reviews from trustable reviewers. Many don't write negative reviews, so you go with the positive reviews from guys with a lot of posts and a lot of participation, and read between the lines when they make the occasional not-as-positive comments. This system is indeed more beneficial to the ladies, but they have only partially been the drivers of change. Keeping sex work hidden is an easier compromise for politicians when it is desirable for the economy, but under relentless attack from the far right and the far left.

[The Cane]

The reason why some are resistant to change is because the old way was more beneficial to the punter.

1. The current social media method requires you to do more background work. The one honest broker is floating within an ocean of fake photos and listings.

2. The best venues, like the old Hotel Del Rey, had some form of vetting of the girls. Sure its not a money back guarantee, but with enough complaints, some girls get barred.

3. Bigger, more established venues tended to exist in societies where there is at least some very basic STD testing.

4. It was safer. You are just going to someone's apartment. Who knows whether there are guys there about to jump you..

It's all just more fun the old way versus sitting somewhere behind a computer screen trying to source a piece of ass! Would rather be hanging out at a place like the Del Rey tossing one back in the Blue Marlin bar and finding a girl of my dreams in there who I take up to my room for a toss in the sack. Then shower, go back downstairs, and do it again! So, so many leaning against the wall waiting just for you.

[Manny51]

I swear I don't know why some of you guys are so resistant to change.

The smartphone and the Internet allows top-performing young women to make more money operating independently than crowding into a meat market, although some ladies start out in the meat market and develop a client base to become independents. Katy was the star at Teens and then went independent.

Katy has endless great reviews, including from me. She is just a great looking young lady with wide service offerings and she will make and keep appointments. She will be my first WhatsApp message on my next Barcelona trip.

https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/katy-...g-t500257.html

If you stop in Barcelona, see her. She is a naturally dark-skinned Spanish lady who will give you a great session, and she will give you some variety compared to Thai and Colombian ladies.

There are a number of similar independents in Barcelona, such as Dolca, who have similar reviews. I haven't personally seen Dolca, but if you stop for a couple of days, you can put together two or three independent Spanish ladies who you will be very pleased with.

https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/dolca...g-t449420.html

The reason why some are resistant to change is because the old way was more beneficial to the punter.

1. The current social media method requires you to do more background work. The one honest broker is floating within an ocean of fake photos and listings.

2. The best venues, like the old Hotel Del Rey, had some form of vetting of the girls. Sure its not a money back guarantee, but with enough complaints, some girls get barred.

3. Bigger, more established venues tended to exist in societies where there is at least some very basic STD testing.

4. It was safer. You are just going to someone's apartment. Who knows whether there are guys there about to jump you.

5. With open venues, you can see exactly what you are getting.

6. In many venues, prices were fixed.

The social media system is more beneficial to the lady, provided that she has already built a clientele. I get it. Less cruising the pavement, so to speak.

Personally, I still prefer finding well run venues. Sure they may all disappear someday, but I am going to ride them until they do.

[Mongerer88]

In my search for a new mongering destination, I browse the various topics (RTFF). What I have found is that if most of the posts are asking where to find a lady, that place is dead. If most of the posts are about one lady, that place is dead. If most posts are about online mongering, forget it.

If there are a lot of posts about how great the place used to be, it's on my avoid list.

So far, I haven't found somewhere to go between Thailand and Brazil. Still looking.

Concerning Barcelona, I may stop there on the way back for a few days.

I swear I don't know why some of you guys are so resistant to change.

The smartphone and the Internet allows top-performing young women to make more money operating independently than crowding into a meat market, although some ladies start out in the meat market and develop a client base to become independents. Katy was the star at Teens and then went independent.

Katy has endless great reviews, including from me. She is just a great looking young lady with wide service offerings and she will make and keep appointments. She will be my first WhatsApp message on my next Barcelona trip.

https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/katy-...g-t500257.html

If you stop in Barcelona, see her. She is a naturally dark-skinned Spanish lady who will give you a great session, and she will give you some variety compared to Thai and Colombian ladies.

There are a number of similar independents in Barcelona, such as Dolca, who have similar reviews. I haven't personally seen Dolca, but if you stop for a couple of days, you can put together two or three independent Spanish ladies who you will be very pleased with.

https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/dolca...g-t449420.html

[The Cane]

I am hoping that some new place will emerge.

Meanwhile, China is gone, Kuala Lumpur is sad, allegedly there is a crackdown in Sosua, Angeles City is dying, all very sad.

And the overall talent and quality of the FKK scene in Germany has fallen off as well. I can personally attest to that from a recent month-long visit.

[Explorer8939]

I am hoping that some new place will emerge.

Meanwhile, China is gone, Kuala Lumpur is sad, allegedly there is a crackdown in Sosua, Angeles City is dying, all very sad.

[Manny51]

In my search for a new mongering destination, I browse the various topics (RTFF). What I have found is that if most of the posts are asking where to find a lady, that place is dead. If most of the posts are about one lady, that place is dead. If most posts are about online mongering, forget it.

If there are a lot of posts about how great the place used to be, it's on my avoid list.

So far, I haven't found somewhere to go between Thailand and Brazil. Still looking.

Concerning Barcelona, I may stop there on the way back for a few days.

Yeah, well, its like I said earlier in the chain. Punting is declining all over the world. Nothing is like it was 10 years ago. That doesn't mean that there aren't good experiences to be had. But it does mean that you have to do more research, go to places that you wouldn't have otherwise gone, and you have to be willing to pay a little more. That's why the forum is more important than ever. The days of strolling into the Del Rey Hotel and seeing hundreds of women are over.

If you are younger and just getting into the game now, then I am afraid that you have missed the heyday. Don't read older posts. They will just depress you.

[Explorer8939]

In my search for a new mongering destination, I browse the various topics (RTFF). What I have found is that if most of the posts are asking where to find a lady, that place is dead. If most of the posts are about one lady, that place is dead. If most posts are about online mongering, forget it.

If there are a lot of posts about how great the place used to be, it's on my avoid list.

So far, I haven't found somewhere to go between Thailand and Brazil. Still looking.

Concerning Barcelona, I may stop there on the way back for a few days.

[Steve 9696]

Barcelona seems interesting, but I don't know why I would pay Barcelona prices for Latinas if I am going to Latin America afterwards.

Fair point but again if you are just tying to break up the trip Barca could be nice. And it's not hugely more expensive. Like Eden 53 is 120/ HR which is a good value. And the handler said if you come in the next two hours I will make it 100€. I had an amazing time. And that's a great value most anywhere in the world for a pretty girl in a clean venue.

Of course La Suite and Felina are more like 180/45 as I recall. But they are luxe rooms — nicer than Scandallo for example. Tho it lacks the club atmosphere.

[Manny51]

Barcelona seems interesting, but I don't know why I would pay Barcelona prices for Latinas if I am going to Latin America afterwards.

Yes, you will find many Colombians and Venezuelans there. But the interesting thing about Barcelona is that local girls work too. And these are SPANISH girls, not Latinas. There is a difference. Its like comparing Penelope Cruz to Salma Hayek. They are generally thinner, and the accent is much sexier.

[Explorer8939]

For the guy looking for a warm stopover between Brazil and Thailand I'the suggest Barcelona. It won't be hot hot but it won't be cold cold either. As Manny says it's a great spot. It doesn't have a club scene but the high end brothels like Felina and La Suite are amazing. Also had a great and inexpensive time at the more mid market Eden 53. A great city as well and a solid Seeking Arrangement scene. As long as clubs are not a must have, Barca is. Great place to spend a few days midway.

Manny the mansion is now called Casa Blanca and you can read about it in the Medellin thread if you look for that term. Owners health went downhill and last I knew so had it or maybe even gone now. It's been a couple years.

Barcelona seems interesting, but I don't know why I would pay Barcelona prices for Latinas if I am going to Latin America afterwards.

[Steve 9696]

For the guy looking for a warm stopover between Brazil and Thailand I'the suggest Barcelona. It won't be hot hot but it won't be cold cold either. As Manny says it's a great spot. It doesn't have a club scene but the high end brothels like Felina and La Suite are amazing. Also had a great and inexpensive time at the more mid market Eden 53. A great city as well and a solid Seeking Arrangement scene. As long as clubs are not a must have, Barca is. Great place to spend a few days midway.

Manny — the mansion is now called Casa Blanca and you can read about it in the Medellin thread if you look for that term. Owners health went downhill and last I knew so had it or maybe even gone now. It's been a couple years.

[Manny51]

Been to Jakarta several times. First trip (Pre Covid times) stayed at JW Marriott, hit the spa after work on Day 1 and had a full service, when I stepped out after shower and was paying for it the manager said the girl can also do "room service massage". Banged the same girl next day in the room. More girls speak English (than Thailand IMO) and the liberal religious mindset is a big plus. One of the best experiences was a hijab girl I met there on a later trip. BBFS was not readily offered.
Have stayed in hotels and Airbnb apartments in and around Jakarta - all places are girl friendly, and the girls had no issue coming

Vietnam has on average the slimmest and prettiest girls IMO. Danang and Hanoi I found have less activity than HCMC. Which I have not yet been to. BBFS was available for more money.

I would agree with you on Jakarta. I went once just before Covid and had a great time. I was definitely wanting to go again. From your experience, has it changed siginfiicantly after COVID?

And yes, Vietnamese women are smoking hot. I would say tied for first in Asia w / Koreans.

In keeping with the larger theme of "best for STR," I would say that, for convenient access for Americans, SXM is probably at the top of the list. Unless you live in a city with nonstop flights to Rio. If you had asked me a few years ago I would have said Costa Rica, but that's not true anymore. That scene has cratered.

I think its important to describe the scene not just in terms of "best countries for STR" but also best VENUES for STR. With punting in an international decline, finding a place that ties it all together- price, convenience, quality, good attitude, cleanliness, and safety -- are getting harder to find. For example, I went to a place in Salvador Brazil that was the best venue I had been to in years. I wrote a report at the time.

On that note, I have many great memories of the Medellin Mansion. Does anyone know if that place is still up and running? I can't seem to find any info on it anymore.

For my my bucket list, I would probably put Sao Paolo at the top of the list. Madagascar too, but that is far far far. You have to burn 3 days just to get there. I saw a post that said Almaty is also a good and up and coming area. Same with Guadalajara.

For old reliables a little further, I would say that Barcelona tops the list. There is also the PI and Thailand, of course. And Germany, if you like FKKs. They are not my cup of tea.