Kyiv

[Jojosun]

I haven't really thought about visiting Russia after the war started, but can Americans visit Russia safely? Or you risk your life (in prison) as well like visiting drone-covered Kyiv?

Hi Sorbonne,

Glad to see you back here and that you are still in active duty.

So glad we enjoyed the good old days of Kiev 14 years ago.

All the best.

[Sorbonne]

Kyiv used to be a good option, but not anymore.

There is absolutely no reason for anyone to risk his life staying here for average-looking girls and terrible mongering scene.

The Ukrainian society has changed a lot since the war started, and not to a better direction. Number of people with serious mental problems has increased greatly since I last visited here. Rude people are also becoming more common.

Just not worth it.

If you're into Slavic girls, Russia Far East is a much better (and safer) alternative.

I haven't really thought about visiting Russia after the war started, but can Americans visit Russia safely? Or you risk your life (in prison) as well like visiting drone-covered Kyiv?

[Savsiem]

The massage salons generally strictly prohibit sex, though they have services where they wear silicon "pussy" for you to fuck. The fake pussies are cringe at first, but once you get used to them, it's quite fun. I couldn't persuade girls to have vaginal sex, even for extra money, but I guess if you manage to build trust with the girl after a few visits, it's quite possible to take her out. I just didn't have enough time for it.

Thank you for the answer sir. Very much appreciated.

[Savsiem]

Vladivostok. Used to be a blonde paradise for mongers from neighbouring Asian countries (China, Korea, Japan). Now because of the political situation, Korean and Japanese tourists almost disappeared, just local and Chinese mongers. The city offers a great variety of young talents from the city itself and surrounding Russian Far East regions. There also great seafood and a huge casino, though I'm not interested in gambling. The erotic massage salons are probably among the greatest I've ever seen around the world. I've met some really young, hot, and well-educated girls there.

Knowledge of Russian language would be great helpful with mongering experience as there are very few western tourists there.

Can you fuck them in these massage salons? There are a lot of them in Moscow as well, but I cannot understand if they are actually salons like the ones in Piter, or they are massage places. I am really not interested in massage at all.

[HumbleHal]

I gave her my number, she was 18 at that time, and a few days later she did not stop texting and me that she loves me. Now I have been with her for 3 years, I pay for her studies, her room, and I fly to Morocco a few times per year. It's hard to understand why she shows me proudly around with her friends, but it's like this.

Are you getting any sex? Sounds platonic, one sided.

[AntonySun1996]

I've never liked strippers or strip clubs or seasoned professional women. They are too jaded and well-used for my liking. I've always been partial to university-aged women or young women who just entered the work force and want to earn extra money by fucking an older man on a regular basis to supplement their low salary. It used to be these girl-next-door types at 21-26 in Kyiv were plentiful. You could have a different one each month, but those days are gone. They are now few and far between.

But my real interest is university-aged women, 18-20. In 2014 I was sponsoring three of them at one time, including a real beauty from Kramatorsk. In 2018 I was sponsoring a knock-out 19-year old red-head with immaculate tits for only a hundred bucks a meeting. I could fuck her whenever I wanted as rough as I wanted.

Well, currently in Kyiv, I've found zero girls of that age online. It's possible now that the university year has begun, some will appear, but I'm pessimistic.

You might be thinking: Gopnik, you said you met an amazing 29-year old who will fuck you for less than 200 USD. Who cares about the younger women, just fuck her. If you're thinking this, you're partly correct. However, I want what I don't have access to in North America. Women 18-22. So, as I have been unable to find any, I've changed my game plan.

I had some business cards made up, with my Telegram and WhatsApp number, an idea I considered years ago, but never had a need to follow through on. Over the last week, if I see a young attractive woman walking alone or sitting on a bench, or even two strolling together, I'll stop them, ask a question such as 'Excuse me, dear, could you tell me where Shuliavska metro station is?' or 'Do you know where Ocean Plaza is?' and after some small talk will give them my card and say 'If you need a job or help with money, you can contact me here' and after a pleasant goodbye, I walk away..

Just go to Russia if you are into 18 year old slavic girls. They are widely available there. Also less scams IMO.

Ukraine was good until it was ruined as a sex tourist destination thanks to the West. A hot young Ukrainian girl can easily go to Europe or North America to find a job (and potentially a husband) if she needs money, instead of selling her pussy in Kyiv. So it's not surprising if all you can get now are single moms in their late 20's and early 30's whose husbands have gone missing after being abducted by TCC.

I just don't understand why people still risk their lives traveling there for mediocre level girls.

[NoBuglyFitches]

I kind of test the waters and make a judgement on how they respond. Also, I try and move them over to Telegram and then talk details there. Never had an issue.

So you have to match them first without offering money, just based on your looks etc, same as any other guy on Tinder? Do you wait for them to right swipe you or you reach out first?

I reached out and offered "sponsorship. " Met a few girls, had sex with them, and then Tinder caught on and shadow-banned me.

[John Auro]

I've never liked strippers or strip ... SKiP...........

Also, I'm not as young as I once was. I'm mid-forties now. Perhaps that is part of the problem, but I don't think it is a serious one. I dress well always and have taken decent care of myself. I recently went on a coffee date with a hot single mom in her mid-thirties who told me I looked 38, for what that might be worth. And all it takes is for one of these university girls to say yes and I'll consider it a success, but who knows if that will happen. Maybe I need to change my approach? Any advice?

I'll post updates if I have any news. Thanks for reading.

I think the problem is the society, who talks bad about old men / young girl relations in certain countries, I myself I am over 60 years, a young girl smiled at me in the bus Agadir to Marrakech, I gave her my number, she was 18 at that time, and a few days later she did not stop texting and me that she loves me. Now I have been with her for 3 years, I pay for her studies, her room, and I fly to Morocco a few times per year. It's hard to understand why she shows me proudly around with her friends, but it's like this. Maybe just luck and her special situation. She is not coming along with her mother, and she has moved out of her mother's house. Her father has a new wife and never phones her.

But a similar thing happened to me when staying in Tunis for a week, a young punk girl (emo-girl, e-girls) 18 years, came to visit me every day, and she would not stop asking me to return to her country. This girl is fine with her Mom at home, but she does not talk and avoids her father, who is also in her house.

Anyhow, I know what happened to me is not an everyday occurrence.

But something else comes to mind: I know a young girl who married a man in a wheelchair, and some of my friends have given her their respect that she went with a man with a handicap.
Being old can also be viewed as a handicap, and similarly, if a young girl chooses an older man, it can be seen in a similar light. Isn't it!

Auro.

[Enter The V]

Vladivostok. Used to be a blonde paradise for mongers from neighbouring Asian countries (China, Korea, Japan). Now because of the political situation, Korean and Japanese tourists almost disappeared, just local and Chinese mongers. The city offers a great variety of young talents from the city itself and surrounding Russian Far East regions. There also great seafood and a huge casino, though I'm not interested in gambling. The erotic massage salons are probably among the greatest I've ever seen around the world. I've met some really young, hot, and well-educated girls there.

Knowledge of Russian language would be great helpful with mongering experience as there are very few western tourists there.

I want to go to Belarus Have you been there?

[Gopnik]

With Tinder girls, how do you let them know you're prepared to give them money? Tinder does a shadow-ban if you offer money, happened to me after a couple of successful hookups.

I kind of test the waters and make a judgement on how they respond. Also, I try and move them over to Telegram and then talk details there. Never had an issue.

[NoBuglyFitches]

The last woman I've met with was from Tinder... At first I was worried she would ask for 400-500 USD

With Tinder girls, how do you let them know you're prepared to give them money? Tinder does a shadow-ban if you offer money, happened to me after a couple of successful hookups.

[Gopnik]

I've never liked strippers or strip clubs or seasoned professional women. They are too jaded and well-used for my liking. I've always been partial to university-aged women or young women who just entered the work force and want to earn extra money by fucking an older man on a regular basis to supplement their low salary. It used to be these girl-next-door types at 21-26 in Kyiv were plentiful. You could have a different one each month, but those days are gone. They are now few and far between.

But my real interest is university-aged women, 18-20. In 2014 I was sponsoring three of them at one time, including a real beauty from Kramatorsk. In 2018 I was sponsoring a knock-out 19-year old red-head with immaculate tits for only a hundred bucks a meeting. I could fuck her whenever I wanted as rough as I wanted.

Well, currently in Kyiv, I've found zero girls of that age online. It's possible now that the university year has begun, some will appear, but I'm pessimistic.

You might be thinking: Gopnik, you said you met an amazing 29-year old who will fuck you for less than 200 USD. Who cares about the younger women, just fuck her. If you're thinking this, you're partly correct. However, I want what I don't have access to in North America. Women 18-22. So, as I have been unable to find any, I've changed my game plan.

I had some business cards made up, with my Telegram and WhatsApp number, an idea I considered years ago, but never had a need to follow through on. Over the last week, if I see a young attractive woman walking alone or sitting on a bench, or even two strolling together, I'll stop them, ask a question such as 'Excuse me, dear, could you tell me where Shuliavska metro station is?' or 'Do you know where Ocean Plaza is?' and after some small talk will give them my card and say 'If you need a job or help with money, you can contact me here' and after a pleasant goodbye, I walk away.

Just today I was sitting in a park near a university, smoking a small cigar, when a young beauty strolled past me. She said her name was 'Karolina' and she was very pleasant. I made some small talk and gave her my card. Yesterday I was walking at Globus Mall when a pretty red-head in spandex shorts was approaching and I stopped her with the same routine. Gave her my card, she thanked me politely and walked off. Three days ago I was in Metrograd Mall when two young women around 19-20 with short dresses, facial piercings and vaping approached me. I couldn't help myself and spoke to them briefly and gave them my card, then watched them walk away. I was in Ocean Plaza speaking with a young woman working at some cosmetic shop and went through the same routine. She was friendly, pretty and took my card with a thank you.

I've probably given out 12-15 cards and have received all of one reply. She said she wasn't interested in sponsorship but was pleasant about it. It's not as easy as you might think to approach strangers on the street with the idea of others around watching and undoubtedly understanding what is happening. I'm kind of self-conscious about it so I pick my spots.

Also, I'm not as young as I once was. I'm mid-forties now. Perhaps that is part of the problem, but I don't think it is a serious one. I dress well always and have taken decent care of myself. I recently went on a coffee date with a hot single mom in her mid-thirties who told me I looked 38, for what that might be worth. And all it takes is for one of these university girls to say yes and I'll consider it a success, but who knows if that will happen. Maybe I need to change my approach? Any advice?

I'll post updates if I have any news. Thanks for reading.

[Gopnik]

I'll break this up into two parts. The first are my successes, the second will be my failures. I've been back in Kyiv for 2-months now and would like to share my experiences with you. It should be noted, I lived in Kyiv for many years before the war began and had quite a bit of success with sponsoring young women here, university-aged being my preference.

It has been said on here that Kyiv or Ukraine is 'over' and it is largely true; if one is considering a quick trip into Ukraine for some mongering, I would say forget it. It's not worth the time, effort, money and risk. For those such as myself, who had the option to come back to live and work, the situation is better, but not like before the war, certainly. The options are not as plentiful but there is still some action to be had. I've had success meeting women on Travelgirls, Badoo, Tinder and Mamba (though it is a ghost town compared to pre-COVID when I was able to meet plenty of university-aged women). The best option is Travelgirls, but the women there are more expensive as they are aware what men abroad will pay them. Here are the women I've met so far. I changed their names for their privacy. Please don't ask me for contact numbers as I don't give them out.

The first woman I met was from Travelgirls. Will call her Liza, she's 26, 170 cm, sexy, very fun to spend time with and comes from Western Ukraine. She asks 500 USD per meeting, which I think she can get in Europe, but no way I am spending that much on a girl here in Ukraine. I negotiated 8,000 UAH which after some time she agreed to. Liza has a lovely little pussy.

The second woman I met is Alina, who was in my contact list for some time and can't recall how I met her. She's early-thirties, around 170 cm who originally asked for 9,000 (I would rather meet Liza again at 8,000) and I returned 6,000 which she agreed to after I made it clear I wasn't budging. A pleasant woman with a nice figure. Definitely worth 6,000. Gave a loving BJ, like Liza.

The last woman I've met with was from Tinder. Sofiia is 29, 175 cm tall and hot! She long legs, a pretty face, large breasts and originally from Luhansk. She met me dressed in a short, pink skirt and looking amazing. At first I was worried she would ask for 400-500 USD, which if anyone is worth that amount, it would be her. I offered her 8,000 UAH which she agreed to, to my pleasant surprise. She was a little conservative in bed but she has such a great figure that it didn't take her long to get the job done. I'll definitely meet her again.

What you may notice is there are no university aged girls on my list, which is my preference. About that in Part 2.

[AntonySun1996]

If you're into Slavic girls, Russia Far East is a much better (and safer) alternative.

Russia far east, do you mean places like Perm, Ekat, Novosibirsk or further east like Vladivostok?

Vladivostok. Used to be a blonde paradise for mongers from neighbouring Asian countries (China, Korea, Japan). Now because of the political situation, Korean and Japanese tourists almost disappeared, just local and Chinese mongers. The city offers a great variety of young talents from the city itself and surrounding Russian Far East regions. There also great seafood and a huge casino, though I'm not interested in gambling. The erotic massage salons are probably among the greatest I've ever seen around the world. I've met some really young, hot, and well-educated girls there.

Knowledge of Russian language would be great helpful with mongering experience as there are very few western tourists there.

[Timmy21]

If you're into Slavic girls, Russia Far East is a much better (and safer) alternative.

Russia far east, do you mean places like Perm, Ekat, Novosibirsk or further east like Vladivostok?