Seeking Arrangements

**DigLicker** · 01-11-26 07:59

So I meant to buy a 30 day only subscription but somehow it ended up adding an additional 90 days to my account. Anyway, I am browsing seeking in NYC and I am not a fan of the selection. The girls seem uptight and the demands high. Looking at in other countries and cities and the selection seems way more easy going and not as demanding. Also alot of these messages that just go nowhere. Is it worth using in NYC or am I better off using it abroad?

**Fnulnu202** · 01-11-26 02:52

Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]

Welcome to our world! Once you master the art of Seeking you will be hooked. And yes you have to have money but not tons. The 500-700 will absolutely get you a top quality date in London.

I've attached my soup to nuts guide on the subject. While originally written for USA it really applies.

So how do you do it properly? I suppose this could vary widely depending on what you are after. But I am after a girl who FEELS like a girlfriend. She's affectionate, appreciates an evening above her usual stature in life, and is able to actually enjoy herself with you. She views the allowance / gift (I. E. Money!) as a bonus. Not the only thing she is after. Any girl where I feel money is the primary motivation and she will go with anyone for a high enough price, gets kicked straight to the curb. She's got to be a girlfriend first, and any "benefits" come second...

That is one of the most thorough and enlightening thing I've read on here. You're making me want to give seeking a shot.

**Steve 9696** · 01-11-26 02:18

Originally Posted by Rinkzzz [View Original Post]

Hello all,

As a newbie to seeking I'm confused on how to go about it.

So, a bit of a background, Mid 40's male. London based, have done a fair bit of mongering in many countries in the past but not used seeking ever.

I 'm by no means rich, have a comfortable job and doing ok financially. In my mind to enjoy seeking one needs to be rich (Expensive hotels, food, drinks and the allowance).

Is this correct? Is everyone using seeking fairly wealthy? In London its easy a minimum of 500-700 which I'm comfortable paying once a month, however I'm guessing it's a confidence issue.

Can someone please help and guide with the best approach? I'm really keen on going on SB journey and not into Pros anymore but unable to get started.

Any pointers and tips will be greatly appreciated?

Thanks Rink.

Welcome to our world! Once you master the art of Seeking you will be hooked. And yes you have to have money but not tons. The 500-700 £ will absolutely get you a top quality date in London.

I've attached my soup to nuts guide on the subject. While originally written for USA it really applies.

So how do you do it properly? I suppose this could vary widely depending on what you are after. But I am after a girl who FEELS like a girlfriend. She's affectionate, appreciates an evening above her usual stature in life, and is able to actually enjoy herself with you. She views the allowance / gift (I. E. Money!) as a bonus. Not the only thing she is after. Any girl where I feel money is the primary motivation and she will go with anyone for a high enough price, gets kicked straight to the curb. She's got to be a girlfriend first, and any "benefits" come second.

Knowing that this is the kind of girl I want to attract (and other guys I have talked to also find this persona the most attractive), there is a set of rules you have to play by. Understand that SA is NOT AT ALL like picking up hookers. It is much more like meeting a girl in a bar and seducing her to leave with you. It's just an online bar. Sure you need money, but you also need some texting game and you need to treat her with respect. If you do, you have a chance of closing the deal. However, the moment you disrespect her, she will be gone.

The most important rule when vibing with a girl and getting a meeting set up is: never discuss sex or money. These things will be implied and they will be done offline. Never discuss sex or money on the Seeking Arrangements platform and really never discuss sex at all. As soon as you are that explicit, the kind of girl you are after will feel disrespected and ghost you in no time flat. Plus, it can get you booted from SA for life if you are reported. Don't worry, there are ways to have this conversation properly, explained below.

Start your engagement with a girl with some light chat and flirt. Your opener should be something specific to her that you read in her profile -- not something generic. And ALWAYS end every message with a question. This prompts her to respond. If you don't ask a question, she will not take the initiative and the conversation will just die. You have to drive it; and you drive with questions. Get her to tell you a few things about herself: what she likes to eat, her favorite wine, dog or cat person. It doesn't really matter what you discuss; just something that will get her to engage a bit.

At some point you will establish that you like each other reasonably well and one or the other will suggest taking the conversation off of SA and over to text. If tries to take you offline right away, she is probably a hooker. With the kind of girls I want, often I am the one to suggest going over to private phone text. You can keep it pretty innocuous, saying you notice she is not on often and it might be easier to connect up by text or WhatsApp. I usually do it after a day or two of chat but some guys pull the trigger sooner.

Once you are texting, pick up the thread you had going and continue a little friendly chat. At some point, you will suggest that you think you vibe well and should meet up. Most often she will agree and now it's time to establish that you will have sex (without saying it!) and how much is the agreed price (without saying it's a price! Some guys cover the price discussion in person, but I find that awkward and always set it ahead of time. I've done a few dates where we don't discuss it at all and I just pay her what I think fair; but this definitely runs a risk of disappointment, so I don't really do that anymore.

Once she's said "yeah, lets meetup" I say I want to describe our date to her (this is how I introduce the sex topic without getting explicit.) I usually say something about going out for dinner or drinks and having an epic time, laughing a lot and if the chemistry is right spending some private time (or intimate time or adult time -- insert your favorite euphemism -- but never say SEX!) or on the off chance we don't vibe, we can part after dinner no harm no foul. And ask if that sounds about right to them. Most often, if they are the kind of girl you are after, they will be down with this description and say, sure that sounds good.

This opens the door for the pricing discussion. I usually say something like "Of course I'the want to give you a gift / allowance. Did you have something in mind?" and the negotiation is underway. Never ever say "what's your price" or "how much do you charge for PPM". Always use the approach above, that you want to give them something. Sometimes, she will say she doesn't know and get you to give the first figure (good negotiating tactic on her part, but often they are in fact new). I am OK with this and say "well, what I've done before is 400. I hope that works for you. " (note no $ sign, and adjust for geography).

As far as what you should pay, I've found a strong correlation between what a pretty hooker charges for an hour (in a given city) to be what an SA girl will take for an evening. I'the say (pre-pandemic) most big US cities $400 was reasonable for a pretty girl, but it's definitely gone up since then. As of 2024, I'the say getting a US-based girl for $500 is par for the course, if you are good at this game, but with gems found for less than that. Many girls asking 800-1000, but I never pay more than $500 worldwide, with US and Europe being most likely to hit that number. But the gems are out there – I have a repeat girl in Brazil who is $100/ meet (yep!) and gem in the US that is $300/ meet. But most are higher in both geographies.

Once you have said "we are going to have sex, right" -- without saying it -- and money discussion out of the way, you should be good to go. Just keep on with the flirty texts without being too frequent, clingy or annoying and then meet up at the appointed day and time. More often than not, if you are not terribly objectionable looking, have a little bit of charm, and follow the "let's get out of here" model you might use with a regular pickup, you will end up in the room with your girl and have a rocking time.

Having done this alot (more than 50 times in many different cities), I've found that having sex on the first date is super important. The few times I've had a platonic date (especially a non-alcoholic one) to be followed by sex on the second date – it never happens. You have to take the momentum on that first date and take it all the way to the bedroom. Remember girls are submissive and will largely follow your lead – even if that lead is to the hotel room.

Finally, I should note that how much time you spend with her is largely up to her and how well you vibe. It's not something you negotiate, like you would with a hooker. I highly recommend you never discuss the amount of time because you want to treat her like a girlfriend, not a hooker. Most times it will probably be 3-4 hours including dinner and sex, after which she might say she needs to get home. But, in my experience, about 50% of girls sleep over. It's not something you discuss. It just happens. You cuddle after sex and next thing you know she's taking off her necklace to the bedside table. Bingo!

The other great thing about Seeking as you advance in the game is that some girls are true girlfriend material – not in the long term "I want to marry you" sense, but in the sense that you would spend a good chunk of time with them. These are the girls that I fly to be with me when I am on business. This is advanced Seeking game, but I highly recommend it. If you vibe really well with a girl (I crush pretty hard! Then they are sooooo down to fly to some fun city. Spending a few days with a girl playing true BFGF is just great fun. More than just the sex – cuddling, shopping, sightseeing – it's a full experience and "falling a little in love" without any strings attached is just the best. And of course you don't have to limit this to one girl. I tend to have at least one real crush-girl per continent and sometimes more.

Recently guys have been asking me about when I fly a girl to be with me in some other city and what I pay them. I have found that once you establish chemistry and you would like each other 24/7 they are fully satisfied with the PPM price covering a full day. Like when you first met, it was $400 for the date and maybe it was 3-5 hours. So then when you fly them somewhere nice, you can give them $400/ day and they are cool with that.

Seeking is absolutely the best, if you take the time to find the gems amongst the bullshit and follow the above guide.

**Rinkzzz** · 01-10-26 23:45

Hello all,

As a newbie to seeking I'm confused on how to go about it.

So, a bit of a background, Mid 40's male. London based, have done a fair bit of mongering in many countries in the past but not used seeking ever.

I 'm by no means rich, have a comfortable job and doing ok financially. In my mind to enjoy seeking one needs to be rich (Expensive hotels, food, drinks and the allowance).

Is this correct? Is everyone using seeking fairly wealthy? In London its easy a minimum of £500-£700 which I'm comfortable paying once a month, however I'm guessing it's a confidence issue.

Can someone please help and guide with the best approach? I'm really keen on going on SB journey and not into Pros anymore but unable to get started.

Any pointers and tips will be greatly appreciated?

Thanks Rink.

**BaltiX** · 01-10-26 21:43

Out of curiosity has anyone tried sugar dating in Rome?

**Jbob084** · 01-09-26 14:51

Anyone with experience on the Seeking scene in Paris?

Plenty of profiles, by far one of the highest quanity and variety wise from any European city I've seen, maybe except London / Barcelona. I'm quite experienced in Seeking around Europe.

Getting plenty of hits from Paris girls, mainly Middle Eastern / Arab girls, open to ppm arrangements. I would guess it's around the 300-400 € mark for ppm?

I've read on another forum someone mentioned meeting seeking girls in Paris, and they were on their phone the entire time, like they were waiting for someone? Anything to be wary of, apart from usual Seeking precautions and common sense? And any specific Paris safety tips?

Also, if I plan to meet several girls over my few days there, are hotels in Paris fine with having guests over? Or would an Airbnb be better?

Advice and intel would be much appreciated.

**The Cane** · 01-06-26 10:26

Men, don't let one of these Seeking "softcore hoors" turn you into a "Captain Save-A-Hoor"! LMAO:

https://youtu.be/_7vQSPBtwyc?si=zmLVPtf5Yom9lrpf

**VanessasClient** · 01-06-26 08:58

Originally Posted by BroComplex [View Original Post]

I attempted to login into my account that I haven't opened for years and was asked for a selfie. Not a photo that I can upload but to take an actual selfie during the log in process. I'm trying to see which countries has more and better looking girls before my trip to Jakarta, Bangkok and manila next month.

People that are on the app how does the app feel after the selfie situation. Do you see less girls? More genuine girls rather than time wasters? Is it worth it to take the selfie and open the account?

Any personal safety concerns like with the tea app fiasco? I thought the main selling point of the app is the ability to remain anonymous and now that's gone.

You'll never be anonymous on the internet unless you take Ross Ulbricht style precautions, and even he got caught eventually. Walking into large stores in major urban areas, wearing sunglasses and a hat, and then buying prepaid phones with cash. That's after you've hidden your license plate from all the traffic cameras in the area. Going to crowded Starbucks during peak hours to use public Wifi, then destroying the device later only to buy a new one. The people who don't get caught using the internet are the people who don't rock the boat. You make a big enough splash, someone is going to come after you, and in most cases, it's legal authorities. If you are trying to hide adultery from your wife, then the better solution is not to get married. In regards to Seeking itself, it relies on its name. No different than Nike or eBay. People flock to these companies because of brand recognition. The only way another site is going to capture most of the market of paying for sex is if either Seeking falls by the wayside, or another site gets enormous publicity. In the second scenario, it usually takes multiple years for a transition to happen.

**BroComplex** · 01-06-26 03:04

I attempted to login into my account that I haven't opened for years and was asked for a selfie. Not a photo that I can upload but to take an actual selfie during the log in process. I'm trying to see which countries has more and better looking girls before my trip to Jakarta, Bangkok and manila next month.

People that are on the app how does the app feel after the selfie situation. Do you see less girls? More genuine girls rather than time wasters? Is it worth it to take the selfie and open the account?

Any personal safety concerns like with the tea app fiasco? I thought the main selling point of the app is the ability to remain anonymous and now that's gone.

**Steve 9696** · 01-05-26 02:02

Rekindled with D last night. The smoking hot Indian girl. For those that like my stories, read on. This story is 90% penthouse forum stuff because this date we just had drinks and headed for the hotel. But it's also a great lesson in keeping your girls warm even when not active.

D is a smoking hot 9 Indian girl, locally studying for her masters. We had a great first date but then she got cool and took a step back. (I was her first Seeking date and only third guy lifetime). I said fine, wasn't a dick, and gently pinged her maybe every two weeks to say hey hope all is well and I'the love to see you again when you're ready.

Well sure enough October turns to January and she's ready! She didn't want to do dinner or play pool or anything. Just drinks and sex. I honestly like going out but hey I will settle for sex. 😜.

Drinks time was so so. I actually don't click with her personality that much. But her smoking hot bod and face have me coming back for more. Plus she's very passionate, coachable and submissive. It just feels a bit more friends with benefits for some reason, except in the bedroom.

It being off-season, the Hilton is very reasonable and we have a large corner suite. The room is cold so we snuggle under the blankets fully clothed as it warms. It's prob only 30 seconds though before kissing ensues and the slippery slope to fucking gets slippery!

I start by pulling her on top of me as we make out. We both like to kiss and we make out throughout our session. On top of me, her world class tits are only inches away, so we free those bad girls. And oh my. They are def top five all time. I mean perfect in every respect.

They are also very responsive and she's enjoying some slow kneading circles. But when I get them in my mouth is when she starts to moan and get very worked up. She's grinding and I know she's getting wet. I loooove girls whose tits are connected directly to their pussy.

We both shed our clothes. And pretty quickly I get dominant and am on top of her. I'm in mish fucking postion but of course just plan to kiss and grind. But she's obviously been with amateurs to date (I'm her third guy including 7 year BF) because she's concerned I'm going to dive in with no lube and little warmup. I assure her we going to get there, but not yet and proceed to make out and work her tits and generally get her hot and bothered.

At drinks she had mentioned how she likes to make her partner happy and always wants to improve. She wasn't talking about sex per se but it reinforced my perception from date 1 that she's submissive. So in the bedroom I get to just directing her pretty explicitly and she complies.

For example, while I am on top of her making out I decide I want to start with BJ (she's not one to initiate) so I move her to Steve 2 position. (As a refresher, Steve2 is standing at side of bed, her on her side, cock in her mouth, spread her legs and fingering her pussy.) At first she's a little confused what I am up to but she gets the hang of it and gets in position cock in mouth.

Once she's in position, I spread her legs and start stroking her clit. I move down a bit and sure enough she's wet, but she's still a little paranoid (newbie!) and asks for some lube. She doesn't need it but I oblige and got to say it feels stunningly good all slippery.

She's doing a good job on basic in and out BJ but I move her to balls and she excels. Last time she was a bit tentative on this but this time it's spot on. By now I have my finger up inside her and hitting her gspot and she starts to moan. Sooooo sexy with my dick deep in her mouth.

She has what I call god pussy in that it's perfect feeling in all directions. She has some of those little ridges up at the gspot but all other directions are like liquid velvet. Un-fucking-believable. Makes me hard just writing about it!

We go at this a good bit and her BJ is way better than I remember. She's doing long licks from balls to tip. Then sucking balls and doing it again. It's quite good. And her pussy feels fucking amazing. For not fucking, the Steve2 is one of the best sexual positions ever for both partners.

From our first date it was clear she's never had proper DATY so I'm committed to rocking her world. I start by positioning her on her back, pussy at edge of bed so I can kneel on the floor. But first I go up face to face and make out. And then make a maddeningly slow descent, sucking tits and licking thighs and everything except her pussy. You can tell she's just about to beg me to touch it when I make my tongue flat and engage her clit.

She's already wet but I give her an amazing time. I'm doing slow licks up the slot and then doing sucking clit tongue circles. And repeating. She's grinding and moaning from the get go. I get a finger inside to work G spot but she seems to prefer just clit focus. Ok baby. It's all about you. The clit it is.

I know I've done a great job when about five minutes in she's cooing "oh Steve" but ten minutes in she blurts out "I love you!" Hahaha. I think she meant "I love the way you eat my pussy like no other man ever has" but I'll take it. LOL.

From here it's the perfect position to insert in the Steve position. So I poise for entry (bareback of course. We previously confirmed no STDs and vasectomy). Recall that she's tight as fuck. So I go super slow. Just a half inch at a time. She's still gasping and going "ow" from time to time so I am going in super slow and reassuring her. Sure enough I finally get balls deep and it's on. Fuck she feels fine!

We go at this a long time. Then doggie where she feels great. Then mish. I mean the fucking was FINE. After a bit I ask her if she wants to rest because last time she was stunned that we would go for 40 minutes or more due to her previous and limited experience with boys. But she says no she is good and we rock on.

Some more fucking and when she's close to cumming I go back to DATY and rock her world. She reciprocates and puts me on my back and does some great BJ.

I think I might blow a stack but don't. And I really want to cum inside her. I contemplate moving to mish to pound one out but instead indicate for her to come up for air and kiss me. She does and we stick it in cowgirl. A lot of girls grind which does little for me, but she is a bit more leaned over doggie style and fucking me in and out. This is great because I can fuck from the bottom as well and start pounding.

God this is lovely face to face, her tits bouncing and me building. It's not long before I shoot a hot load up inside her. Wow. Super rare for me to cum in cowgirl and a huge improvement on date one where I had to finish by hand. She seems like a real keeper!

Of course I've still got my regular girl G and so I'm in a bit of a spot (nice problem to have). G is waaaay more fun and a party girl. Legendary BJ but kinda heavy these days. Overall more fun to be with tho. And then D seems a bit cold and rigid and not a party girl. But fuck, those tits could launch a thousand ships. Combine that with a 9 face and god pussy and it makes it darn hard to decide. So for now I won't. Going to juggle for a bit and see how it goes. But D is def back on the agenda!

**The Cane** · 01-04-26 23:06

Originally Posted by VanessasClient [View Original Post]

It sounds like you originally met her more than several years ago. How old is she now? And what kind of stupid decisions did she make in the mean time? Is she one of those people who never seems to learn from her mistakes?

I would say she's about 31+ now. As far as stupid decisions where do I begin? Public intoxication, marrying an idiot drug peddler, breaking and entering (but she claims it wasn't her fault), recreational drug use. Get the idea? She tried to hide some of this shit from me, but I found out about it doing a simple public records check (I found out what I know after she moved away and we weren't fucking anymore). Had her kids taken away at one point (and maybe now). There's no telling what I don't know about that she's been hiding. I strongly suspect she lost the house a relative left her too. Her parents bought her a decent car and her dumb ass sold it! She clearly hasn't learned shit, and is one of these people who will have financial and legal problems most likely for the majority of her life, if not all of it. Which might be short if she doesn't get her act together soon. I kept telling her you have two young kids. They need you! But you know she's pretty, and pretty people get repeated opportunities and chances that others don't. Oh well. I stopped trying to be a Captain Save-A-Hoor decades ago. Good luck, and Godspeed!

**VanessasClient** · 01-04-26 22:22

It sounds like you originally met her more than several years ago. How old is she now? And what kind of stupid decisions did she make in the mean time? Is she one of those people who never seems to learn from her mistakes?

Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]

She tried to "guilt trip" me. I told her that her problems in life had nothing to do with me, and that her life could be good if she made better decisions and stopped fucking up all the time. Of course, she got pissed off, but I didn't care. Time to keep it real! I said the friendship was done. She lobbed a few choice insults, told me to never contact her again, and blocked me. You just know how it's going to end when a really hot girl with a really fucked up life wants to keep asking you for stuff when interacting with you, you were smart enough to keep her at arm's length and not let her get too deep into your own life (and God knows not marry her), and you tell her "no you need to get your shit together and stop asking for money and stuff all the time". Good riddance! I don't 100% fault her. It was a relationship that started with money at the crux of it. I no longer wanted that. Not with her or anyone else, and felt it was time to make that clear. It is what it is. Or isn't.

**The Cane** · 01-03-26 17:54

Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]

My old "grand slam home run" Seeking girl hit me up for money on Christmas Eve. Knew it was coming. Although we have remained in touch, I have not seen her in a few years, and she allegedly has a new boyfriend (after her divorce). Why isn't he helping her with what she needs (actually believe she's telling the truth about her situation). My answer was a diplomatic "no". Told her I'm not interested in having a sugar daddy relationship with her or anyone else ever again. I'm out of this scene. For good! She hasn't seen my response yet. Let's see how she reacts.

She tried to "guilt trip" me. I told her that her problems in life had nothing to do with me, and that her life could be good if she made better decisions and stopped fucking up all the time. Of course, she got pissed off, but I didn't care. Time to keep it real! I said the friendship was done. She lobbed a few choice insults, told me to never contact her again, and blocked me. You just know how it's going to end when a really hot girl with a really fucked up life wants to keep asking you for stuff when interacting with you, you were smart enough to keep her at arm's length and not let her get too deep into your own life (and God knows not marry her), and you tell her "no you need to get your shit together and stop asking for money and stuff all the time". Good riddance! I don't 100% fault her. It was a relationship that started with money at the crux of it. I no longer wanted that. Not with her or anyone else, and felt it was time to make that clear. It is what it is. Or isn't.

**Vendelo** · 01-03-26 09:02

Originally Posted by VanessasClient [View Original Post]

I'm noticing MANY more women are now paying for premium membership. Several months ago, I would only see this once a blue moon. Now, a significant number of female profiles have it. I wonder if there's a specific reason behind this.

I'm an on again / off again paid member but I like to lurk. I haven't noticed an increase in female premium members. Perhaps its certain locations where there are a lot of girls, e. G, Guadalajara.

I noticed just today that the monthly membership for men is $150!

**VanessasClient** · 01-01-26 02:49

I'm noticing MANY more women are now paying for premium membership. Several months ago, I would only see this once a blue moon. Now, a significant number of female profiles have it. I wonder if there's a specific reason behind this.