Sao Paulo Reports

[Nounce]

I didn't create those words. I didn't create the concept that those words address. And I absolutely am not the only Scandallo guy to have ever used them either, including recently. But once again, you only seem to have a problem when it's me The Cane who uses said words.

I pointed out what is in the post. It's not about you. It's about it wasn't fair to him and I did not mention your name.

I observe not just from my own view. I tried from other's point of view. While I see differences, I also see similarity that I have pointed out. I have doubt that all members will enjoy the same if the price double of triple. Eventually, everyone will be in the same boat when bar / price is high enough. The similarity is most members want better value. The differences is the definition of "value".

[Nounce]

But no! You think it's appropriate to compare a puta palace to a "white bread" hotel like the Hyatt hahahaha! I know plenty. And if you don't know (you don't) then you better ask somebody! But don't ask me. Because I'm not here to waste my time trying to convince.

You mixed up two subjects in my post.

The first one is the place that I already described with a photo I took of the place.

I rephrase the second one here. Imaging you are staying in Renaissance Sao Paulo. Casarao is only a few hundreds feet away in easy walking distance (connivence). Casarao has 100+ girls every night (consistency) (low cost of entry) and you can easily find Scandallo quality here for a more or less standard price of 100 USD (transparency) (YMMV of course, I can for example). Weed has been mentioned frequently, You pass by this weed store to get some when you walk back to the hotel with the girl. Haha. There is a place like this but the names are different.

[Tasss]

You can find street girls 24/7 in and around 2600 block of Avenida Indianapolis (near rua Irere). There is a little bit of everything You can find reviews on gp-guia.

Will check this.

Before my Scan report I got a girl from there to meet me for 1400 for 1 HR at my apartment outside of Scan working hours (during the day time). But on Whatsapp she says she wants to add the club exit fee of 400 to make it 1800. Is this a scam? We agreed to 1400 so is she just fishing for extra money? 1400 / HR outcall was for BBFS we agreed to in the club but we didn't exit the club together.

Anyways I just reported on my Airbnb experience looking for girl friendly places. As a follow up So today I looked at a couple of listings where the owner explicitly answered by the messaging system that they allowed guests and the building has no problems. One of them was near Parque Princesa Isabelle. One review pointed out that the area looked dangerous, but others were 5 stars. I booked it thinking it's no big deal since I've been to Santa Fe in Bogota and Plaza Botero in Medellin at night in both places. When I got there, it was worse than I thought. There were drug addicts gallore and groups of young men loitering. It was really unnerving walking in that area trying to find ATMs or food. I'd compare it to the couple of streets north of Plaza Botero in Medellin where all the addicts are. So a word of advice, even from a guy who's used to those sketchy areas, that corner of downtown is no good. I bailed on that Airbnb, absorbing another cancelation penalty.

The current Airbnb I'm in looks promising. No door guards at all, located in Pinheiros. The bad part is there are hills up and down the area so it's exhausting walking around for restaurants, and the restaurants are expensive, not like around Rua Augusta.

For ATMs, reading this forum, I was scared of using the Banco24 Hora red ATMs, but they're fine if you have a Fidelity (or Schwab probably) CMA card. Just like with Colombia ATMs, you decline the conversion and it'll use the Visa FX rate. The fee will be reimbursed next day by Fido or end of month by Schwab. I personally prefer Fido over Schwab since the money you have in the CMA collects money market interest whereas Schwab gives you some miniscule rate, and also the next day fee reimbursement rocks.

OK for Scan, my perspective comes from someone who got used to bringing girls back for BBFS so my take may be very very different for someone more flexible. The looks quality at Scan is very good, no doubt. I'm not a club guy, and the only closest thing I can compare it to is Fase II in Medellin, but Scan is much bigger and the girls are taller and better made up. I guess I wasn't stunned because I've seen some equally hot girls on Seeking in Colombia, but the quantity and average hotness of the girls can throw off someone who's never witnessed it before. At least for Saturday, the girl guy ratio didn't seem that good. For the BBFS question, I always offered 1. 4-1. 5 k. 5 girls flat out rejected it before even hearing my rate. One asked for some insane price like 5 k, one said 2. 5 k, one 2 k. One agreed to 1. 5 k but before we left, she asked me to pay her bar tab and I felt that was scammy so I declined and she left. The girls who agreed to BB strongly preferred to do it in the rooms, but I stuck to my demands. In the end I didn't pay those inflated prices, and I was OK going home with no one, but the experience I think is still worth it. I look at it this way, I paid 400 reals for enough food for two meals. I brought back the second entree to my Airbnb. And you pay 200 (40 USD) for cover. It's high but not terrible. One girl who said 2 k in the club messaged me back on Whatsapp, hence the question above.

In the end I just wasn't ready to pay 2 k or more because the girls who did agree to BB were mid level by Scandallo terms. There are FB girls in Medellin at the same level of hotness who would do BB for much less than what they're asking. Indeed some women I met on FB in Medellin could definitely work in Scan. Maybe the differentiator is the level of service but I've no point of comparison on the SP side just yet.

[Knowledge]

You can find street girls 24/7 in and around 2600 block of Avenida Indianapolis (near rua Irere). There is a little bit of everything You can find reviews on gp-guia.

I had the impression from some posts that Airbnb door guards in general are pretty chill. Well this is definitely not the case for the Airbnbs near Casarao Augusta. I personally prefer take out service everywhere I go so having a girl friendly place is one of my musts. I know about the Hotels and Accomodations thread, but I specifically wanted one near Casarao since I would like to go often and I did not see one nearby in that thread. That goal of trying to find one near Casarao might have been a mistake and mistake that could have cost me my entire SP trip since that was supposed to be my main source of freelancer girls.

When I checked Airbnb, every building near Casarao seems to have a doorman. So my first strategy was to look for Airbnbs without house rules preventing guests from checking in. As far as that check, several listings passed that filter so I booked one of them. Turns out the building has a "only registered guests" policy that the host did not specify. The building only opens manually, not through facial scan, and the doorman was so strict that he blocked me from going in once. Unfortunately, you won't know about this policy until you actually arrive there. I decided to cancel this Airbnb and eat a $300 penalty because this place would have ruined my trip. Complaining to Airbnb was no use since they said the host met listing requirements..

[Tochka]

I had the impression from some posts that Airbnb door guards in general are pretty chill. Well this is definitely not the case for the Airbnbs near Casarao Augusta. I personally prefer take out service everywhere I go so having a girl friendly place is one of my musts. I know about the Hotels and Accomodations thread, but I specifically wanted one near Casarao since I would like to go often and I did not see one nearby in that thread. That goal of trying to find one near Casarao

- Went to Casarao at 3 am. Lots of guys but the ratio is around like 1. 2 m to 1 f. Talked to three girls. One refused BBFS, one said maybe tomorrow during the afternoon for 700 and left me her number, one took it for 800/ HR outcall. The last one was the girl who got blocked by the doorman.

Many years ago I ran into the same headache, Airbnb not guestfriendly, paying stupid cancellation feed, "guest-friendly" confusion means send her biodata for approval, doorman & receptionist front desk drama, and asking nosy questions. I pivoted completely.

In Sao Paulo, love motels was simply the easier move for me. There are several sex themed love motels less than a 7-minute Uber ride from Casaro. No security issues. No host approval. No awkward conversations because the front desk reception welcomes you and your date. Pick your duration 2 hours, 4 to 6 hours, or 12 hours overnight until noon the next day. Simple no hassles.

At Casaro, I use a "try before you buy" . Spend some time next door in a session, lets me get a feel for the vibes, then decide if I want to extend the night elsewhere or cut bait. Makes for a much better (informed drunken) choice than locking into drama. The garotas that smoke in your bathroom. Boom. Cleaning fee,.

For nightlife, I prefer Rua Augusta great energy but I would not stay there. Too many unpredictable street life hanging around following you for no good reason. You never know what habits someone might bring back to your rental, and Airbnb hosts in So Paulo are not tolerant.

For Asian visitors: Yankin has long been considered Asian-friendly, and several other clinics are as well. You can research on GP-Guia and read current reviews before choosing.

Saturday nights at Scandallo is consider by the garotas Asian night, lots of motivated skinny thin pretty garotas working the room to find Asian love connection.

If you're near Andar de Cima Love Motel, Tokyo Karaoke nearby is also a fun civilian option dancing, karaoke, drinks, relaxed vibe.

[Kazeu]

It seems like you had a lot of really bad luck with airbnbs. Good rule to follow is to always ask the host directly if visitors are allowed. If you want to be extra careful, ask what the process is for accepting visitors. Sometimes a host will say yes, visitors are allowed, but will fail to mention that you are required to send their ID to the host and have the host approve the guest before entry.

Also, facial recognition doesn't necessarily mean visitors are allowed. Better to ask directly if this is really important to you.

Good news is that there are definitely airbnbs near casarao that are visitor friendly, you just have to look for them.

I wouldn't really worry about some girl spreading gossip about you in Casarao. Theres a lot of asians that go to casarao. Give it a week and she probably won't recognize you again. Or possibly confuse you with another asian. These girls go through so many guys and there are so many girls at casarao. Its not like they are all friends, maybe only the regulars, and you don't want the regulars anyways.

I had the impression from some posts that Airbnb door guards in general are pretty chill. Well this is definitely not the case for the Airbnbs near Casarao Augusta. I personally prefer take out service everywhere I go so having a girl friendly place is one of my musts. I know about the Hotels and Accomodations thread, but I specifically wanted one near Casarao since I would like to go often and I did not see one nearby in that thread. That goal of trying to find one near Casarao might have been a mistake and mistake that could have cost me my entire SP trip since that was supposed to be my main source of freelancer girls.

When I checked Airbnb, every building near Casarao seems to have a doorman. So my first strategy was to look for Airbnbs without house rules preventing guests from checking in. As far as that check, several listings passed that filter so I booked one of them. Turns out the building has a "only registered guests" policy that the host did not specify. The building only opens manually, not through facial scan, and the doorman was so strict that he blocked me from going in once. Unfortunately, you won't know about this policy until you actually arrive there. I decided to cancel this Airbnb and eat a $300 penalty because this place would have ruined my trip. Complaining to Airbnb was no use since they said the host met listing requirements.

Next I asked around a few hosts to see if their building supports facial recognition. I booked one that did. However, my facial recognition didn't get done that night but I thought the doorman was going to be chill about guests (he wasn't). As a backup measure in case the doorman didn't let the girl through, I registered a fake guest with a generic Portugese female name. When I took the girl back from Casarao, I forgot to give her the fake name. She was stopped at the door and since I didn't tell her what to say, she says that fake Portugese name wasn't hers. After she gets stopped, she created a ruckus at the door, and I had to pay her the full takeout amount to leave. It's also questionable whether even if I got her in this time with the fake name trick, that it'll work repeatedly. The doormen in Colombia usually can be worked with and even bribed sometimes, but the ones in SP refused to be bribed.

The bad thing about the second incident is that not only did it ruin my stay at Airbnb #2 but the girl could spread gossip in Casarao about what happened. Unfortunately I'm pretty recognizable among Brazilians, and if girls talk, it's possible they'll try to avoid me making Casarao a no-go for the time being.

Some other things I've learned so far.

- Using a Fidelity CMA-linked debit card, I withdrew 3 k reals from one of the blue 24 hour ATMs in the airport since I couldn't find a Bradesco or Santander ATM. The ATM didn't show any fees when completing the withdrawal and the Fidelity account, thus far, hasn't deducted more than the 3 k real equivalent in USD. I was afraid that I might have fucked myself with that withdrawal but that might have been OK. FYI, Fidelity brokerage linked debit cards won't reimburse foreign ATM fees, only the CMA linked ones do.

- As others mentioned Uber Taxi can save time when traveling longer distances where there are bus lanes. On the small roads, the taxis can still get stuck since there are no bus lanes there.

- Went to several clinicas during my first two days. Tangara had no girl above a 5. I saw a bunch of Asian dudes in the waiting room. Being Asian myself I'm wondering whether we just have very low standards when it comes to girls' service and maybe looks. When Koreans started taking over Angeles, the looks and service certainly went down year after year until it's not worth going to anymore. But maybe a correlation and not a cause.

- Sharon Premium had a Russian looking blonde / blue eyed girl. Her boobs are a bit squashed from breastfeeding, but decent body overall. Sessioned with her. She refused BBFS when offered, even when I said I can present exams. 430 for the house + 300 for her. She says she'll do an outcall for 1 k but I didn't care to negotiate down from that.

- Yankin's roster looks better, Aphrodite was full of fatties, Zeus was also bad.

- Went to check out streetwalkers near Casarao at 2 pm and 8 pm and didn't see any. 12 midnight there were a few girls who kind of looked like SWs, but in general I don't think finding street girls is a fruitful exercise in SP.

- Went into Nova Caribe at 2:30 am, which is near Casarao. 30 reals entry. The roster was sad, but found one girl worth talking to. However she tried to scam me by saying the exit fee for the house is 1800 reals when it is 150.

- Went to Casarao at 3 am. Lots of guys but the ratio is around like 1. 2 m to 1 f. Talked to three girls. One refused BBFS, one said maybe tomorrow during the afternoon for 700 and left me her number, one took it for 800/ HR outcall. The last one was the girl who got blocked by the doorman.

[Steve 9696]

I always buy bottles and keep the on the table while I walk around to find girls. This "reserves" your table and the waiters keep any eye on it for you.

Agree. The bottle is a sure way to feel like king of world. Prob run you $120 which actually is a good value and they will hold it for six months (tied to your card / ID). The waiters will get you a table and clear out any squatters if it's crowded. And as Annagie says its holds your table while you browse.

If you are feeling baller get a big cache of Red Bull tropicals and invite some hotties to join you. The bottle will go fast but Man you are king of the world for a few hours. Then pick ur fave and go rock on. Tell the waiter u are going up or ur bottle might be drained when u return.

[Tasss]

I had the impression from some posts that Airbnb door guards in general are pretty chill. Well this is definitely not the case for the Airbnbs near Casarao Augusta. I personally prefer take out service everywhere I go so having a girl friendly place is one of my musts. I know about the Hotels and Accomodations thread, but I specifically wanted one near Casarao since I would like to go often and I did not see one nearby in that thread. That goal of trying to find one near Casarao might have been a mistake and mistake that could have cost me my entire SP trip since that was supposed to be my main source of freelancer girls.

When I checked Airbnb, every building near Casarao seems to have a doorman. So my first strategy was to look for Airbnbs without house rules preventing guests from checking in. As far as that check, several listings passed that filter so I booked one of them. Turns out the building has a "only registered guests" policy that the host did not specify. The building only opens manually, not through facial scan, and the doorman was so strict that he blocked me from going in once. Unfortunately, you won't know about this policy until you actually arrive there. I decided to cancel this Airbnb and eat a $300 penalty because this place would have ruined my trip. Complaining to Airbnb was no use since they said the host met listing requirements.

Next I asked around a few hosts to see if their building supports facial recognition. I booked one that did. However, my facial recognition didn't get done that night but I thought the doorman was going to be chill about guests (he wasn't). As a backup measure in case the doorman didn't let the girl through, I registered a fake guest with a generic Portugese female name. When I took the girl back from Casarao, I forgot to give her the fake name. She was stopped at the door and since I didn't tell her what to say, she says that fake Portugese name wasn't hers. After she gets stopped, she created a ruckus at the door, and I had to pay her the full takeout amount to leave. It's also questionable whether even if I got her in this time with the fake name trick, that it'll work repeatedly. The doormen in Colombia usually can be worked with and even bribed sometimes, but the ones in SP refused to be bribed.

The bad thing about the second incident is that not only did it ruin my stay at Airbnb #2 but the girl could spread gossip in Casarao about what happened. Unfortunately I'm pretty recognizable among Brazilians, and if girls talk, it's possible they'll try to avoid me making Casarao a no-go for the time being.

Some other things I've learned so far.

- Using a Fidelity CMA-linked debit card, I withdrew 3 k reals from one of the blue 24 hour ATMs in the airport since I couldn't find a Bradesco or Santander ATM. The ATM didn't show any fees when completing the withdrawal and the Fidelity account, thus far, hasn't deducted more than the 3 k real equivalent in USD. I was afraid that I might have fucked myself with that withdrawal but that might have been OK. FYI, Fidelity brokerage linked debit cards won't reimburse foreign ATM fees, only the CMA linked ones do.

- As others mentioned Uber Taxi can save time when traveling longer distances where there are bus lanes. On the small roads, the taxis can still get stuck since there are no bus lanes there.

- Went to several clinicas during my first two days. Tangara had no girl above a 5. I saw a bunch of Asian dudes in the waiting room. Being Asian myself I'm wondering whether we just have very low standards when it comes to girls' service and maybe looks. When Koreans started taking over Angeles, the looks and service certainly went down year after year until it's not worth going to anymore. But maybe a correlation and not a cause.

- Sharon Premium had a Russian looking blonde / blue eyed girl. Her boobs are a bit squashed from breastfeeding, but decent body overall. Sessioned with her. She refused BBFS when offered, even when I said I can present exams. 430 for the house + 300 for her. She says she'll do an outcall for 1 k but I didn't care to negotiate down from that.

- Yankin's roster looks better, Aphrodite was full of fatties, Zeus was also bad.

- Went to check out streetwalkers near Casarao at 2 pm and 8 pm and didn't see any. 12 midnight there were a few girls who kind of looked like SWs, but in general I don't think finding street girls is a fruitful exercise in SP.

- Went into Nova Caribe at 2:30 am, which is near Casarao. 30 reals entry. The roster was sad, but found one girl worth talking to. However she tried to scam me by saying the exit fee for the house is 1800 reals when it is 150.

- Went to Casarao at 3 am. Lots of guys but the ratio is around like 1. 2 m to 1 f. Talked to three girls. One refused BBFS, one said maybe tomorrow during the afternoon for 700 and left me her number, one took it for 800/ HR outcall. The last one was the girl who got blocked by the doorman.

[Chicago85]

Super easy decision! I'm not attracted to 95% of the Asian women I see. So, no doubt any of my favorite places in Brazil, not just Scandallo. That's not a money-driven decision for me. It's a "kind of women I like" decision. I've mongered in Asia, but I will never travel there again specifically for that purpose. I see guys talking about how Thailand, Indonesia, or the Philippines is the best when you look at the sheer number of girls working, pricing, availability of bareback, etc. Well, a place is "the best" only if you like the kind of women you're going to find there the best. All those flat ass, no titties, "butter face" girls over there not for me. My tutes got to have pretty faces and some plump, round "boo boo" haha! So Brazil it is!

Agree with this. The fact is, the hottest Asians that I've seen are in the USA (mostly West Coast and I'm talking everyday girl, not working). It's rare that I see a really hot girl in SE Asia anymore. Even non-working. And if you're referring to working, it's nothing like the 2000's. Beyond that you have the performance of Latinas, and Brasilheras in particular.

[Anaggie]

For those who purchase bottles, I'd love get some feedback on your approach.

I'll be in SP next week and hopefully in Scan for 3-4 nights. In the past, I've bought a bottle and kept it behind the bar (outside, since it's usually less busy). It's nice to be able to access it during subsequent visits and manage the consumption more strategically (or at least I tell myself). The question is, is it a better move to ask a server to keep a bottle at one of the tables and therefore "reserve" that table for the evening? Assuming that's how it would work? As I'll be solo, I'll spend most of my time roaming, but the table could be good as a home base with the garotas.

I respect everyone's individual spending preferences fwiw!

I always buy bottles and keep the on the table while I walk around to find girls. This "reserves" your table and the waiters keep any eye on it for you.

[Tochka]

Do you know if there is a plan to renovate all the rooms? Because I got to tell you. Those rooms simply don't do it for me! The first time I go with a girl, I would rather do it onsite to see how we get on. But those rooms were just barely meeting my minimum standards!

Good point I'll ask about the renovation plans next time.

To give a visual, the new rooms feel similar to the rooms at Abbbora. The size is slightly larger than my favorite Casarao Room 2, and it's comfortable enough for two garotas to enjoy without feeling tight.

That said, it's still pretty basic in terms of amenities. There's no convenient charging access near the bed, and the Bluetooth connection for Spotify still isn't great. I usually grab extra towels because the standard setup isn't enough.

No stripper pole.

Overall, it's a modest size upgrade, but functionally still simple. If they improve the tech and a few comfort details, it would make a noticeable difference. Its located in the same ground floor corridor of rooms 1-7 . There is a door at the back that opens up to another corridor maze which leads to the better rooms at the end. The garotas were also happy to perform in more space. I prefer in house action two at a time, then cycle through two more cute garotas, lastly mix and match best two performers for a third round. I always try to session with newer garotas. Shit I learned the hard way if the smoking hot cutie from MG or the GND cutie pie ,newbie from the interior of the country is in Casarao only for a few days to grab her quick.

She might be in SP only for a few days.

[The Cane]

Stopped by Casaro. Overall, it was a slower night than usual.

There was a live band playing upstairs, which gave the place a relaxed vibe. Most of the action was downstairs in their newly expanded area, which is where the majority of clients were.

I ran into a very attractive 20-year-old morena with a very natural beauty look reminded me of a Meghan Markle type. Funny enough, she remembered me even though I honestly have trouble remembering many of the garotas at Casaro unless we've connected on WhatsApp or Instagram before.

Later, I invited two 20-year-old GDP newbies for a one-hour session. One was a pretty morena, the other a sexy nonstop carioca garota. We agreed on are $450 BRL each for the hour.

Staff Update:

The staff was enthusiastic about showing off their newly renovated, larger rooms. I recommend rooms 108,109, and 110. These are noticeably bigger than the standard, more claustrophobic rooms and are much more comfortable especially for two-GDP, four hands sessions.

Do you know if there is a plan to renovate all the rooms? Because I got to tell you. Those rooms simply don't do it for me! The first time I go with a girl, I would rather do it onsite to see how we get on. But those rooms were just barely meeting my minimum standards!

[Tochka]

Stopped by Casaro. Overall, it was a slower night than usual.

There was a live band playing upstairs, which gave the place a relaxed vibe. Most of the action was downstairs in their newly expanded area, which is where the majority of garotas were. some of them have been working in casarao for two or three years. as one fdp garota reminds every time we see each other kkkk. there is a fresh crop of 20 years from the interior every night which keeps it fresh . if you spot a good one grab her early to lock in a session. whatever thin blonde models or sexy attractive morena you like other dudes want the same.

I ran into a very attractive 20-year-old morena with a very natural beauty look reminded me of a Meghan Markle type. Funny enough, she remembered me even though I honestly have trouble remembering many of the garotas at Casaro unless we've connected on WhatsApp or Instagram before.

Later, I invited two 20-year-old GDP newbies for a one-hour session. One was a pretty morena, the other a sexy nonstop carioca garota. We agreed on are $450 BRL each for the hour.
casarao is enjoyed more when you can speak some brasilian slang or falo basic porto. it helps to keep the great vibes going..
Staff Update:

The staff was enthusiastic about showing off their newly renovated, larger rooms. I recommend rooms 108,109, and 110. These are noticeably bigger than the standard, more claustrophobic rooms and are much more comfortable especially for two-GDP, four hands sessions.

Note that the upgraded rooms come at a higher price than the standard rooms, but the extra space makes a difference. Even better we went straight to the new rooms instead of waiting in the long ass line.

[Sperto]

First of all I'd rephrase that, if I want a slim petite young college girl with good service available for $250, why pay $1000 ? That's not cheap charlie that's called not being stupid. In the monger world, more money doesn't equate better quality.

Very true!

[ZoomPum]

For those who purchase bottles, I'd love get some feedback on your approach.

I'll be in SP next week and hopefully in Scan for 3-4 nights. In the past, I've bought a bottle and kept it behind the bar (outside, since it's usually less busy). It's nice to be able to access it during subsequent visits and manage the consumption more strategically (or at least I tell myself). The question is, is it a better move to ask a server to keep a bottle at one of the tables and therefore "reserve" that table for the evening? Assuming that's how it would work? As I'll be solo, I'll spend most of my time roaming, but the table could be good as a home base with the garotas.

I respect everyone's individual spending preferences fwiw!