Tokyo

[Rick Rock]

1. Visit to a top experience soapland for JAV style nuru and FS experience.
2. A Delivery Health order with a cute Japanese (option fot secret menu).
3. Visit to a top notch oppai club that has good girls and guaranteed good experience.

1. Kings Room https://kings-room.com/.

2. Tokyo Amateur Escort https://amateurtokyo.com/.

3. Luxe https://www.luxe-shinjuku.jp/.

If you act responsibly and follow the rules, I don't think you will have any problem at any of these places as an Indian either.

[CrystalRed76]

So folks, finally I will travel to Japan to fulfil a life long fantasy of visiting the beautiful country and partake in living out some of my years of JAV fantasies. Thanks to all the brothers for detailing so much about the complex scene of Japanese adult industry. I have been browsing the forum for 2 months. And to be honest. I feel totally confused to put it all together in a simple top 3 things to do in during the 2 days I am there. There are just too many opinions and suggestions. So I have broken it down to following top 3 wishlists.

1. Visit to a top experience soapland for JAV style nuru and FS experience.

2. A Delivery Health order with a cute Japanese (option fot secret menu).

3. Visit to a top notch oppai club that has good girls and guaranteed good experience.

I would highly appreciate any pointed guidance brothers can share on how a native Indian like me can score with reasonable success, I would be forever in debt. Of course, I would be happy to share my FR post this.

Thank you in advance.

[Md955]

Thai women are good to go for this arrangement, and it's very common so you won't have trouble or misunderstanding. It is just a matter of cost, and as you point out you could save money indirectly. It also makes for a different memorable trip during sightseeing. Thai women have no tabboo about SW or this arrangement, and she knows what you do before / after her is not even her business. It is nice.

35 k Thai Baht is $1100, it is a good rate. You will pay her meals and other expenses too but that's part of the experience and special memory to some. I assume for you too. You're obviously picking a girl you like and already get along with after all. If you are going to partake in other FS fun, maybe it's best not to overlap that part. For example hiring her 10 days for a 12-15 day trip. Then you can TAE on the other days if you choose. All the non-FS light fun can be overlapped or not. But since Tokyo costs more and is for "city stuff", you might end up with just a few days for it to happen. Unless you like city stuff. The food in Tokyo is really good. Just pick what Japan is good at (ex: sushi), it is so easy to win. Do try the uniquely Japanese fast food sometimes (Yoshinoya and Zetteria are a guilty pleasure). Food is so competitive in Tokyo that as long as it is mainstream, it is fantastic value and quality.

I would maybe suggest Shibuya Galaxy because it is cheap and one of a kind, and they are welcoming to foreigners and speak English. There is a strict security check so you don't have a recording device / electronics, otherwise it is wholesome perverted fun. If you don't mind long peaceful walks and are in Tokyo, see Meiji Jingu temple. If more adventurous, do Nara on a weekday as a side-trip from Kyoto. This year will be less crowded, so in combo with that it'll be nice. Not that it will be not crowded, but it will be way better than usual.

On paper Thailand and Tijuana both do naughty bars better than Japan in pricing. But an oppai pub bar like Luxe is a different / unique system still. Since you expressed interest, it's a sign you'll want to try it once for the experience since it is different enough. Every guy gets a girl and it is light foreplay and chat (just don't touch pussy or asshole). In my experience, if you are a gentleman everything else is allowed. Keep it playful, I always have a good time meeting one girl after another.

Luxe is 100% English friendly and most of the customers are English speaking, much of the staff are native speakers (grew up in the US). That's their selling point. Girls can be hit and miss, so they send you 2 or 3 girls. There is always a promotional discount to enter, just use Manzoku, online coupon, or ask. The Luxe manager gives people discounts just for asking, their business model is to get people to keep extending. So they try to make people happy in that sense. They are within sight of the main Manzoku building.

I know Thailand is cheaper than Japan, but it's different if you focus on Japanese things. For example, Japanese food is truly cheaper and better in Japan. Most people do understand it's better, but they don't always understand how much cheaper and better it is. It is very low margin in Japan, obviously authentic, and they sell a high volume which makes it even cheaper than you expect. Japanese people take food seriously.

Kyoto and Nara are the best and most special places for Japan sightseeing, and they're right next to each other. But it sounds like you have a lot of time, so there's many other options. It is just tricky to align with your "brief" mongering time in Tokyo. Obviously, the nature / historical things you can see in Japan you can't get anywhere else. But Tokyo has a lot of cool city stuff. While in Tokyo, take your girl to Teamlabs (there are several). I also mention Meiji Jingu because it is the nature / historical experience combined into one, in the middle of a city. It is one of a kind, like going back in time.

Thanks for your detailed response. I agree that I shouldn't overlap my FS fun, and yes, that is why I only asked for 10 days, as I will want some days to myself to experience a little bit of Japanese mongering, as well as nerd out on my own at some shops / locations (I am huge into video games and anime).

The price isn't too bad as you are correct that it will make the trip more memorable. I would have the girlfriend experience, and she would take care of my needs in bed. I am glad that I am making a good choice. I will definitely be trying out a lot of Japanese food, I love sushi and seafood in general, so I am quite excited. I am planning on spending my first 4 or 5 nights in Tokyo, another 4 or 5 in Kyoto, then back to Tokyo for the remainder of the trip. I will be using Kyoto as a home base and taking the train to other locations as day trips to surrounding areas. I have read online that for a first timer in Japan it is best to keep it relaxed and to not try to squeeze too much to do or too many places, as two weeks really isn't that long. From what I see, Tokyo is quite large and there is much to do, so I don't think I will be disappointed in that regard.

I will definitely look into your recommendations. Shibuya Galaxy seems like something I won't experience anywhere else, so that has me intrigued for sure. Luxe as well. While yes, Thailand seems to have cheaper girl bars, I wanted something different this year. I will definitely return to Thailand over the coming years, but my job only allows one "long" vacation. Traveling to Thailand takes about a day and a half each way from the USA, so three vacation days are shot just for traveling, which quite honestly sucks.

I know I've read that you don't like to meet up with people from the site, but if you're interested, I'd be down to invite you to some food and drinks when I'm there. Again, thank you for all the information you provide to the forum, it's been a great help and I'm sure I'll be coming back to your posts many times over the coming weeks.

[Traveler X]

So I've booked my first trip to Japan, will be out there next month for two weeks. I've been to Thailand multiple times, I absolutely love it, but I want to do something different for my "big" vacation this year. I don't plan on mongering the whole trip as I am leaning toward being a "regular" tourist for the most part. I will be visiting multiple locations. I am not a heavy drinker. I drank in Pattaya, but never really got drunk and I've never 'blacked out'.

I have a small roster of Thai women who have expressed interest in meeting up with me in Japan and acting as my girlfriend while I'm there. The general price I'm being told is around 35 k Thai Baht for around 10 days, plus paying for her flights and transportation, as well as accompany me wherever I go. BBFS, CIP, the whole nine yards.

I suppose my questions are, have any of you done something similar? How did it go?

I don't plan on mongering much in Japan as it seems way more expensive than Thailand, but I will likely try at least one or two women from TAE, as well as try out the Luxe Oppai Bar.

Also wanted to shout out Traveler X for his posts. Very informative.

Thai women are good to go for this arrangement, and it's very common so you won't have trouble or misunderstanding. It is just a matter of cost, and as you point out you could save money indirectly. It also makes for a different memorable trip during sightseeing. Thai women have no tabboo about SW or this arrangement, and she knows what you do before / after her is not even her business. It is nice.

35 k Thai Baht is $1100, it is a good rate. You will pay her meals and other expenses too but that's part of the experience and special memory to some. I assume for you too. You're obviously picking a girl you like and already get along with after all. If you are going to partake in other FS fun, maybe it's best not to overlap that part. For example hiring her 10 days for a 12-15 day trip. Then you can TAE on the other days if you choose. All the non-FS light fun can be overlapped or not. But since Tokyo costs more and is for "city stuff", you might end up with just a few days for it to happen. Unless you like city stuff. The food in Tokyo is really good. Just pick what Japan is good at (ex: sushi), it is so easy to win. Do try the uniquely Japanese fast food sometimes (Yoshinoya and Zetteria are a guilty pleasure). Food is so competitive in Tokyo that as long as it is mainstream, it is fantastic value and quality.

I would maybe suggest Shibuya Galaxy because it is cheap and one of a kind, and they are welcoming to foreigners and speak English. There is a strict security check so you don't have a recording device / electronics, otherwise it is wholesome perverted fun. If you don't mind long peaceful walks and are in Tokyo, see Meiji Jingu temple. If more adventurous, do Nara on a weekday as a side-trip from Kyoto. This year will be less crowded, so in combo with that it'll be nice. Not that it will be not crowded, but it will be way better than usual.

On paper Thailand and Tijuana both do naughty bars better than Japan in pricing. But an oppai pub bar like Luxe is a different / unique system still. Since you expressed interest, it's a sign you'll want to try it once for the experience since it is different enough. Every guy gets a girl and it is light foreplay and chat (just don't touch pussy or asshole). In my experience, if you are a gentleman everything else is allowed. Keep it playful, I always have a good time meeting one girl after another.

Luxe is 100% English friendly and most of the customers are English speaking, much of the staff are native speakers (grew up in the US). That's their selling point. Girls can be hit and miss, so they send you 2 or 3 girls. There is always a promotional discount to enter, just use Manzoku, online coupon, or ask. The Luxe manager gives people discounts just for asking, their business model is to get people to keep extending. So they try to make people happy in that sense. They are within sight of the main Manzoku building.

I know Thailand is cheaper than Japan, but it's different if you focus on Japanese things. For example, Japanese food is truly cheaper and better in Japan. Most people do understand it's better, but they don't always understand how much cheaper and better it is. It is very low margin in Japan, obviously authentic, and they sell a high volume which makes it even cheaper than you expect. Japanese people take food seriously.

Kyoto and Nara are the best and most special places for Japan sightseeing, and they're right next to each other. But it sounds like you have a lot of time, so there's many other options. It is just tricky to align with your "brief" mongering time in Tokyo. Obviously, the nature / historical things you can see in Japan you can't get anywhere else. But Tokyo has a lot of cool city stuff. While in Tokyo, take your girl to Teamlabs (there are several). I also mention Meiji Jingu because it is the nature / historical experience combined into one, in the middle of a city. It is one of a kind, like going back in time.

[Canada]

So I've booked my first trip to Japan, will be out there next month for two weeks. I've been to Thailand multiple times, I absolutely love it, but I want to do something different for my "big" vacation this year. I don't plan on mongering the whole trip as I am leaning toward being a "regular" tourist for the most part. I will be visiting multiple locations. I am not a heavy drinker. I drank in Pattaya, but never really got drunk and I've never 'blacked out'.

I have a small roster of Thai women who have expressed interest in meeting up with me in Japan and acting as my girlfriend while I'm there. The general price I'm being told is around 35 k Thai Baht for around 10 days, plus paying for her flights and transportation, as well as accompany me wherever I go. BBFS, CIP, the whole nine yards.

I suppose my questions are, have any of you done something similar? How did it go?

I don't plan on mongering much in Japan as it seems way more expensive than Thailand, but I will likely try at least one or two women from TAE, as well as try out the Luxe Oppai Bar.

Also wanted to shout out Traveler X for his posts. Very informative.

I have not taken a Thai girl anywhere but I took a Kazak girl on several weeklong vacations to Dominican Republic and Istanbul I also took 2 different Russian girls to Dominican Republic for a week each. The Kazak girl wasn't a working girl but wanted to travel on vacations. No money paid but payed her flights bought her some clothes, makeup and accessories so worked out the same as paying an upfront fee. The 2 Russian girls both wanted $1500 for the week plus their flights. Every trip went well and it is a great way to travel.

[Md955]

So I've booked my first trip to Japan, will be out there next month for two weeks. I've been to Thailand multiple times, I absolutely love it, but I want to do something different for my "big" vacation this year. I don't plan on mongering the whole trip as I am leaning toward being a "regular" tourist for the most part. I will be visiting multiple locations. I am not a heavy drinker. I drank in Pattaya, but never really got drunk and I've never 'blacked out'.

I have a small roster of Thai women who have expressed interest in meeting up with me in Japan and acting as my girlfriend while I'm there. The general price I'm being told is around 35 k Thai Baht for around 10 days, plus paying for her flights and transportation, as well as accompany me wherever I go. BBFS, CIP, the whole nine yards.

I suppose my questions are, have any of you done something similar? How did it go?

I don't plan on mongering much in Japan as it seems way more expensive than Thailand, but I will likely try at least one or two women from TAE, as well as try out the Luxe Oppai Bar.

Also wanted to shout out Traveler X for his posts. Very informative.

[Rick Rock]

I think that easily getting to a top tier Soapland may be a headache

Not necessarily. You could easily send a message to King's Room and taxi there the next day. Walk in on time, pay the fee, go up in the room and have 2 hours of bliss. Where's the headache?

[JoeThighsMan]

Mone does post many photos on her blog and you can also see customer comments at the bottom about her boobs. Since the customer feedback is on THC's own website, we can be skeptical that there is going to be moderation to what gets posted. But it is generally actual "fan mail" so to speak, it's part of the fun and girls read their own feedback. In Japan, this is common and it's expected you keep it polite. But if guys are all praising her boobs, that detail is probably true.

Whereas comments or ads portraying the girl as young or beautiful, can be exaggeration. I'm just saying it's unlikely she has tiny tits that are being exaggerated all the way to legendary boobs

Thank you Mr. X, as always. You are a wonderful asset to this hobby of ours!

[BigIrish1970]

Hello all.

Love the wealth of knowledge on this board. I think that I've narrowed my focus based on everything shared here. I'll be in the Shibuya area, so I think that easily getting to a top tier Soapland may be a headache with TAE, THC and Gingira close by. Also looking for a 3 p experience and the Soapland look to be closer to 150000 yen for that option.

With that said. Is it harder to get the "special menu" with 2 girls in play? Adding to that. Is it harder to get BBFS when there are 2 ladies. My thought right now is that I'm going to stick with TAE and Gingira. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

Follow up. Any good cigar bars close to Shibuya anyone would recommend?

[Traveler X]

https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=2887

As a purveyor of Japanese breasts being the best breasts, I have my eyes set on Mone, who seems to be a dream come true for a guy like me.

I did search on ISG and did not find much. While I know the THC reviews can be deceiving, there are more than enough to comvince me she is time well-spent.

Mone does post many photos on her blog and you can also see customer comments at the bottom about her boobs. Since the customer feedback is on THC's own website, we can be skeptical that there is going to be moderation to what gets posted. But it is generally actual "fan mail" so to speak, it's part of the fun and girls read their own feedback. In Japan, this is common and it's expected you keep it polite. But if guys are all praising her boobs, that detail is probably true.

Whereas comments or ads portraying the girl as young or beautiful, can be exaggeration. I'm just saying it's unlikely she has tiny tits that are being exaggerated all the way to legendary boobs.

What are folks thoughts about ordering a girl delivered to their actual hotel VS taking one to a love hotel. Are there any red flags with having one come to my hotel?

I've used my own hotel 90% of the time. I meet the girl outside the front entrance and walk with her to the elevator and to my room. DH is legal, so being discreet is just about good manners. Some girls will show up with a face mask and take it off in the elevator or in your room.

There are pros and cons to using your room or a love hotel. If you are new to the idea, most shops will assist you on that. Normally, locals are supposed to check themselves in and then call the DH shop and tell them the hotel name and room number. Then the girl walks there. But for us foreigners, male staff or even the DH girl might escort us to the front desk and check us in. You pay the cost, it's not a lot (seems like 2200 to 4000 yen these days). Many people use this method because they simply don't have a hotel they can use close by or at all.

Having tried both, I always prefer my own hotel.

[Vendelo]

Thanks Traveler X, that's the general info I needed to calibrate my expectations.

Now I have some things to think about. Soaplands sound intriguing but I'm maybe more interested in a more long, slow, and intimate session. Maybe my best bet is to roll the dice on a hotel delivery girl for 90 minutes, budget an extra 20 k above advertised price and hope for the best. I assume that the girls that don't do FS are pretty decent at making the time enjoyable anyway.

What are folks thoughts about ordering a girl delivered to their actual hotel VS taking one to a love hotel. Are there any red flags with having one come to my hotel?

Long, slow and intimate: I prefer two-hour sessions for various reasons including the three you mentioned. If you luck out and click with a girl it is quite an amazing experience. I've clicked with three girls and repeated with two. For me, I know within the first minute by her smile and body language.

Love Hotel v. Hotel: I've done it both ways many times. Some Love Hotels are quite nice and cost about 8000 yen for two hours. Other Love Hotels are a little tacky with bright furniture and lights but are cheaper. It is also quicker, I. E. , you go to an agency, select the girl and she walks you to the Love Hotel. But basically everyone you pass on the street knows exactly what you're doing.

In regards to your hotel, there is no red flag that I can think of. I've had girls come directly to my room via the elevator. I've also had girls come to my Airbnb. They were delivered and picked up by the agency in a private car.

[JohnG01]

For legal reasons they can't advertise full service.

Thanks Traveler X, that's the general info I needed to calibrate my expectations.

Now I have some things to think about. Soaplands sound intriguing but I'm maybe more interested in a more long, slow, and intimate session. Maybe my best bet is to roll the dice on a hotel delivery girl for 90 minutes, budget an extra ¥20 k above advertised price and hope for the best. I assume that the girls that don't do FS are pretty decent at making the time enjoyable anyway.

What are folks thoughts about ordering a girl delivered to their actual hotel VS taking one to a love hotel. Are there any red flags with having one come to my hotel?

[JoeThighsMan]

https://hentaitokyo.com/profile?cc=2887

As a purveyor of Japanese breasts being the best breasts, I have my eyes set on Mone, who seems to be a dream come true for a guy like me.

I did search on ISG and did not find much. While I know the THC reviews can be deceiving, there are more than enough to comvince me she is time well-spent.

Does anyone have any info that would help in my upcoming Tokyo trip?

Thanks!

[TheKid2222]

Cityheaven is for locals. For inbound tourists, it's Yoasobi. Yes it sucks. The two sites are the same company, both sites point to the same database. If you try to use Cityheaven and can speak japanese, it might work or it might fail because many shops care whether or not you are a local resident. The gaijin tax is really an "inbound tax" in practice. Many shops will ask you, especially in recent years. In the case of Kira Kira, on repeat visits they asked me to pay the gaijin tax since I'm visiting as a tourist. They knew and believed me when I pointed out I was always given local rates in the past. But they put in new rules since then and added a gaijin tax. Since I was a tourist I had to pay it. I have no interest in lying to a shop for discounts, but if that's your thing go ahead. It might or might not work. At most places if you are a foreigner with residency in Japan, you don't have to pay it. It is about money.

Although the main purpose of this is greed, it's true there is also potential extra work and risk they take on with tourists who are more likely to run off. Many shops say guys running off or not following basic rules is the main problem they encounter. Even shops that did NOT have a gaijin tax said this, like hostess clubs and oppai pubs. They will reject Japanese locals too if the vibe doesn't feel right. That's their solution instead of a gaijin tax, especially since once you are in there are still male staff around observing you. DH and Soap shops can't do this. So shops often choose this fee as a way to deal with their added perceive work / risk..

I appreciate it thanks for the great info! Yeah, I will just pay the foreigner fee; seems to make sense.

[Traveler X]

I'm doing some research for an upcoming trip. I expect to have a couple days free to experience Tokyo. I'm totally confused by what's on offer. I've searched through yaosobi and I see some pretty amazing things. Like an 18 year old that will come to my hotel for an hour for 30,000 yen dressed in a schoolgirl uniform. But now I'm questioning what kind of service I can actually expect. How do I know if full service is actually on offer or if I'm just going to be flirting with a phone translator and maybe getting a blowjob if I'm lucky? Is it wrong to assume that most of the delivery Escort services include full service in the price? Or is that an extra service that I'm going to pay for and it's a roll of the dice whether the girl even offers it?

Thanks for the help.

For legal reasons they can't advertise full service. Delivering a girl to your room for massage, handjob, blowjob, even anal is all legal. But PIV (penis in vagina) sex can't be advertised. However, the law also allows two people who "know each other" to do what they like for money (i.e. sugaring is legal). So with most DH places you can negotiate that. It is between you and the girl. At high end DH like Elise, it's often included with no negotiation.

People expect it with DH (Delivery Health). Every shop can have a slightly different concept but the popular ones generally include the basic menu like kissing, foreplay, blowjob, etc.. A sexy massage place might not necessarily offer fs but it's possible. If you want guaranteed fs, at Soapland it is generally guaranteed. Just ask for it.

This video answers most questions:
https://youtu.be/oyn-qEYUn68?t=1329 Delivery Health explained by a pro

The Secret Menu
About the secret menu for fs, some TAE girls ask you to keep it private. Many other DH girls were open about it, in any case it's up to them if it's offered. I always got it. As this video summarizes, each girl gets to decide what options she offers and it's between you and the girl.

One veteran DH girl I knew from the US explained that at soapland, the girl is always expected to bang. Whereas at DH, the girl gets to decide.

Obviously, girls will refuse guys they don't find suitable or problematic whether it's behavior or hygene. Otoh if you are respectful and seem safe, your chance is higher than those guys. I got it from every girl, but it is not guaranteed.

Negotiation
I did not have a hard time with negotiations. Most girls I liked and got along with, so it was settled in seconds. Sometimes the girls said a number first, other times I offered 10k. Sometimes for multiple options (effectively making one option or the other 0k). I always repeated those girls, so they were happy with the arrangement.

It was not hard to agree, I don't feel I got any GPS. Simply the more attractive girls asked more and the less conventionally attractive girls were fine with less. That was just my experience in 9 DH visits, it was evenly spread from 0k to 30k for fs. I never actually haggled because I felt each girl was being reasonable, sometimes the girl asked for more and I accepted it.

If I didn't like a girl, I didn't bring it up and enjoyed my time with her (this only happened once and not at TAE).

I know other guys have a tighter budget, so this DH negotiation guide as well as Bribs' technique sums it up:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2979529 DH Negotiation

There are two secret menus beyond the basic, I feel it better not to explain it all. However, TAE is very open by labeling certain girls with a Blue stamp showing they will allow photos for a small tip (3k or 5k). Whether they allow face or not is between you and the girl.

Some more resources you can look over:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3007010
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3016039