Tokyo

[DaveCory69]

HUH?

I've been going to soaplands (including GFE and Kira Kira) for 20 years and I have NEVER gone from the mat to the bed still covered in gel.

They have ALWAYS washed me before we went to the bed.

Hey, I'll be going to Tokyo soon. Any recs for Soapland for foreigners in shinjuku and shibuya? Thanks.

[Vendelo]

On a side note, as I was coming downstairs this older gentleman was walking up the stairs with a hottie, she was probably a 9/10 and if I wasn't heading to the airport, who knows, maybe I would have went back to the administrator and tried to book that beauty for the next day.…

If she was tall with a swimmer's build and a beautiful Japanese face, that was probably Risa. If you would have RTFF, you would have discovered I wrote about her twice. Beautiful girl and definitely a 9.

[Vendelo]

It can seem perfect, until you get addicted to the experience and fall in love. Language ability and age gap are the other big drawbacks. Young women are great in the sack but can become bored (or be boring).

This is not my first rodeo. I've holiday-GF-ed girls in Thailand, Jakarta, Cambodia, Vietnam, and Mexico.

[Lion]

Exactly.

I literally just returned home in the US after three weeks in Phnom Penh and Nha Trang. I holiday-GF a Khmer girl, 20, for a week who I met on literally her first day at a Phnom Penh bar. The owner, whom I've known for a year, introduced me to her. Then I holiday-GF-ed a girl, 25, in Nha Trang who I met on Tinder. I totally lucked out in crossing paths with her. She is a keeper.

Whoever created the Holiday GF business model is a god and should receive a Nobel. The idea of having 24/7 arm candy that wakes up next to you with zero visceral fat and soft feet and without the darn nagging of a real GF or wife is what makes me realize I can't and will not date another age-appropriate woman in the US. Not to mention I don't have to talk about remodeling my kitchen, re-landscaping the backyard, or remembering birthdays.

It can seem perfect, until you get addicted to the experience and fall in love. Language ability and age gap are the other big drawbacks. Young women are great in the sack but can become bored (or be boring).

[Maximus V]

No offense but this is a really strange take. You went to an amateur place and seem peeved that they gave you an amateur. The entire point of TAE is that you're getting skinny fresh girls who are new to sex.

Rick Rock, I appreciate that feedback, I didn't think about it that way but you are exactly right. I paid for service with an amateur and that's indeed what I received, an amateur with zero skills. So I guess I can't be that frustrated looking back at the situation. Below are the reports from the sessions with the other two girls.

Girl 2 - As my first experience was below average I decided to come back and give TAE another chance. This time while in the office the administrator gave me 5 different picture cards of available ladies to choose from. Again I chose one that seemed to have "big boobs" and a nice face. This time there was no confusion at the love hotel and my room was not given away like last time. My girl arrived about 5 minutes later and I would say her face didn't look anything like the picture card but her body seemed to be nice with her clothes on. She knew a bit more English than the first girl and had better overall energy. We jumped in the shower to freshen up and on to the bed. Body was great naked but face left a lot to be desired. I didn't let that deter me and we proceeded to have a great time. Once she started doing the move with rubbing vagina up and down on dick and using her hand with lots of lube it felt great she knew exactly what to do. I was ready to blow so I had to slow things down. Flipped her around and started a nice 69, that was a wonderful sight! Then got into missionary and I was just kissing her all around and when my dick got next to her vagina for a little rubbing she said yes hold on, then she grabbed a condom and put it on. There was no discussion about extras fees / charges she just put on the condom and I slowly went inside. It was nice just going with the flow. I finished up and we cuddled for a bit. I was waiting for her to tell me the extra cost but she never did. Wow, ok I thought that was nice of her to give me a free "special menu" session. I tipped her 8 k because although she wasn't the best looker she gave great service and had a nice body.

Girl 3 - Before leaving the country I had about 2 hrs of free time that I thought I could use to squeeze out one more session at TAE. When I met with the administrator, I guess this was a busy time because he only had 3 picture cards of available ladies. I told him to pick for me the most popular one, this would prove to be a BIG mistake. He said ok, I paid and he made the arrangements with the love hotel. I got the keys and went to my room and 10 minutes or so the girl shows up. She has a cute face I would say better than the first 2 so I was excited for good things to come. When we undressed to get into the shower things went down hill fast! I couldn't tell what I was looking at as her body seemed great with clothes on but with clothes off she had a lot of loose skin like she just had a baby! I never had this happen before in Japan, in my home country it has happened a few times. I was def disappointed in her body but there was nothing I could do at this point, I could send her away but the administrator isn't going to give me my money back so I decided to just get a BJ and call it a day. I asked her while on the bed if she just had a child and she said no kids but she was very big before and then she went on diet and lost a lot of weight! I was not trying to destroy her self esteem so I just said ok and left it alone. In my head I'm thinking this profession is probably not for you. Then I got mad at the admin for recommending this girl when I asked for most popular. There is no way in hell this girl is popular unless the Japanese have some sort of loose skin fetish that I don't know about. So I just closed my eyes and had her give me a BJ for a long long time before I eventually busted. It was a sad way to end my business trip but what can you do except keep swinging!

On a side note, as I was coming downstairs this older gentleman was walking up the stairs with a hottie, she was probably a 9/10 and if I wasn't heading to the airport, who knows, maybe I would have went back to the administrator and tried to book that beauty for the next day.

Tips for newbies (from my limited experience). You are not getting the girls in the pictures. I don't know if it's straight bait and switch or the heaviest amount of photoshop edits but whoever you think you are getting is not going to show up at your hotel or love hotel. Even though my sample size is only 3, I was 0 for 3 in terms of face matching picture. I'm sure if I went 20 times the result would still be the same. Don't trust the booker to pick someone popular or hot, from my experience the booker is going to pick someone who has been sitting on the sidelines to give her some work. Each interaction is going to vary wildly so YMMV is a very true statement. First girl said absolutely no to any special services regardless of how much money I was willing to pay, the other girl gave out special services for free and the last girl, well she was down for anything but unfortunately I was not. You are indeed (as Rick Rock mentioned) getting real amateur girls, so if you don't mind paying for girls that might not know what they are doing, or face and body not the greatest then by all means give the service a try, you could get lucky like that older gent on the stairs!

[PNWGentleman]

I've been there and wrote about it.

Tl; dr.

I sessioned with a girl at THC. Top 3 most beautiful girls I have ever been with. I opted for two hours, FS and sans condom. Cost me a fortune. I went for it because what are the chances of an older gent like me banging a smokin' 22-year old Japanese girl in Japan? Pretty much zero.

Fantastic.

Have done the same.

Multiple sessions and paid her to travel to USA as well.

A dream.

[Vendelo]

Thanks for sharing that. Yeah, makes it feel a little more human when you realize you were paying for an extraordinary experience (compared to our normal lives).

Appreciate it. Yeah I think this would be a different story if it I had spent the mortgage; for what it was, it was still great value for an unforgettable memory....

Exactly.

I literally just returned home in the US after three weeks in Phnom Penh and Nha Trang. I holiday-GF a Khmer girl, 20, for a week who I met on literally her first day at a Phnom Penh bar. The owner, whom I've known for a year, introduced me to her. Then I holiday-GF-ed a girl, 25, in Nha Trang who I met on Tinder. I totally lucked out in crossing paths with her. She is a keeper.

Whoever created the Holiday GF business model is a god and should receive a Nobel. The idea of having 24/7 arm candy that wakes up next to you with zero visceral fat and soft feet and without the darn nagging of a real GF or wife is what makes me realize I can't and will not date another age-appropriate woman in the US. Not to mention I don't have to talk about remodeling my kitchen, re-landscaping the backyard, or remembering birthdays.

[Traveler X]

Great, informative post as usual. I am now thinking about trying one of these oppai clubs the next time I am back in Japan.

Have you written any on ordering DH? I have had success, but it is always a bit of a challenge to place the order correctly in Japanese and I have no one to learn from.

I know the services in English are easy, but they tend to be a good bit more expensive.

Every DH shop can be a bit different in their setup and how you order a girl. Here is my review of TAE:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3002306 TAE Review

Here are links to TAE's own explanation of their system:

Shop: Tokyo Amateur Escort
Time and price: 65 minutes ~28K yen

https://amateurtokyo.com/play-guide/ How to book
https://amateurtokyo.com/howtoplay/ How to play
https://amateurtokyo.com/concept/ Concept
https://amateurtokyo.com/system/ System (note there are added fees and tax)
https://amateurtokyo.com/schedule/ Daily schedule with girls stats
https://amateurtokyo.com/girls/ Girls
https://amateurtokyo.com/access/ How to access shop (not necessary, just if you want incall)

True to their concept, every girl I saw appeared to be 20-25 years old. However, note there are fees and tax on so you will never get the base 17k rate. For example the 22k outcall rate for 65 mins ends up almost 28k ($193) after fees and taxes. Which is still cheap.

Here is the exact formula to calculate how much you will pay. Unlike many DH shops, TAE advertises before-tax rates. Like most DH shops, the further away you are from their shop (in Dogenzaka Shibuya), the more the delivery fee is.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3016039 TAE cost formula

Here is how to negotiate for extra offerings:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3054911 DH Negotiations

Each girl decides what she offers. I've pointed out before that it seems new girls are labeled on TAE's site with a 3K discount. I always avoided them. So, that may be why I had very smooth sailing. One girl was hot but asked for a higher tip, another girl was butterface but cheap and awesome body and service, and another was very cute but we didn't vibe. She was nice enough and had good enough looks, but wasn't as enthusiastic as the other two girls. She was cooperative but passive like "you can do what you want", while the other two girls attacked me with their routine.

About every shop being different. TAE has a physical shop you can enter - many DH shops do not. Even if you speak Japanese, if you are not a local resident they will charge you the gaijin tax. But at least TAE's tax is small compared to most shops. If you are a local resident, even if you are not Japanese, you should be able to get the locals rate. Many shops follow this rule because it is about risk - tourists are more likely to run off without paying for example. Whereas a local resident who has a Japanese phone number can be tracked down and held accountable. Regardless of background, that is the perception. This was the same thing oppai pubs explained, but their POV is different since they at least have staff on-hand for security. So oppai pubs do not charge a foreigner tax. They'll simply sus out visitors regardless of tourist or locals. They'll refuse service to locals too who are too drunk or don't pass the sniff test.

About oppai pubs, I've posted this before but for those asking:

Oppai Pub Posts
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2927559 Intro to oppai pubs (July 2024)
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2927664 Part 2
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2959611 Update (Nov 2024) - Bribs is researching
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...57#post2964457 Update (Nov 2024) - Bribs finds love
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2966010 Update (Dec 2024) - Bribs repeats love
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2929014 No tip, buy drink, save money by not extending
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2927688 No need for VIP
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2927714 No need for VIP
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...ai#post2936662 Hygene (Aug 2024)
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...25#post2965225 Fjrk76 might buy a house for an oppai pub girl
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2955623 ATexGuy's visit
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...61#post2963461 How to get to Manzoku

Manzoku can take you to any oppai pub, hostess club, or fetish shop in the area. They are 3rd party experts that will call the shop, make sure you can enter, and arrange an escort. They will actually get you the best "first timer" rate. Used them for 20 years perfectly.

Do not engage with Nigerian touts in Kabukicho, just keep walking don't even acknowledge them. At best, they will take you to a rip off tourist shop. No different than Thailand tuk tuks. This is the ONLY rule I want everyone to follow no matter what! Everything else in Japan is really safe.

Also:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...66#post2946666 Introduction to Japan
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3002870 Oppai pub rankings and update

There is a second smaller Manzoku shop. Attached is an image of how it looks. They can take you to all the same shops. Also attached is Super Angel.

Note that the 6000 yen (early bird) and 8000 yen promo rates are introductory rates. But as long as things are slow, the staff will call and ask the shop "We have a customer who visited you yesterday, can he come again at the promo rate?" And if the shop isn't busy, it's yes. Of course, if the Manzoku staff doesn't remember and you don't bring it up, they won't even mention that part. In 23 years of going oppai pubs, the oppai pub has never cared and always honored the promo rate. The staff who greet you, they aren't the boss and they don't care since it was Manzoku that introduced you. Same reason why they explain the rules in double time - as long as they said all the words to you, they are off the hook for their boss.

But it needs to be said that oppai pubs can get full. Friday Saturday especially, but sometimes any night 10pm or after. Some oppai pubs are open very late, I've seen 2am or 4am. But you need a taxi if you aren't staying local.

[Lion]

The following post is a long commentary on oppai pubs aka sekukyaba. If you're not interested, please skip!

Great, informative post as usual. I am now thinking about trying one of these oppai clubs the next time I am back in Japan.

Have you written any on ordering DH? I have had success, but it is always a bit of a challenge to place the order correctly in Japanese and I have no one to learn from.

I know the services in English are easy, but they tend to be a good bit more expensive.

[JnemodoeX]

I've been there and wrote about it.

Tl; dr.

I sessioned with a girl at THC. Top 3 most beautiful girls I have ever been with. I opted for two hours, FS and sans condom. Cost me a fortune. I went for it because what are the chances of an older gent like me banging a smokin' 22-year old Japanese girl in Japan? Pretty much zero.

Thanks for sharing that. Yeah, makes it feel a little more human when you realize you were paying for an extraordinary experience (compared to our normal lives).

You did very well. You saw hot girls and made it far with them. Yes you could potentially have turned down the last girl and saved money, but you did like her and had a fun memory. You even got her rival interested in you, you won't forget it. There are other clubs where the girls aren't as hot, and people can end up paying for an okay time but not what you got. And I think it is good value compared to DH.

Appreciate it. Yeah I think this would be a different story if it I had spent the mortgage; for what it was, it was still great value for an unforgettable memory.

For those who can speak some Japanese, this is how it feels at first. Don't worry about it. I'll say that once Manzoku confirms your Japanese, you are set. It is not a high bar, maybe just 2 to 4 years of Japanese. No more tests by either the escort or the shop. Avoid Golden Week holiday.

For those in this situation, they'll say some variant of "Otearai wa daijobu desu ka?" with the key word Otearai. For those interested, see the oppai pub guide where the sequence is explained:

I know it is a lot to read the full guide, but that's how manuals are. If you've ever seen those kung fu dramas where a guy picks up a scroll and he can do kung fu after reading them, that's why I write them. I've written oppai pub tips for 22 years and I'm getting too old. It's someone else's turn to see these young women and lick their tits.

Definitely. I realized I no longer needed to prove myself after that first time and especially in Fukuoka where I was more "on my own. " As for the Otearai question, my mistake was thinking they would deviate from the routine. Read the player-guide front and back but got lost in the sauce. For any future first-timers I would also suggest they don't try to "figure it out" as if their experience will be the exception. Even if you can't really hear them (like in my case), best to mentally follow the script.

Super Angel is beginner friendly. It's a good club in two ways: the pricing is all-inclusive of girl's drinks so no upsell pressure, and they have many girls in a 'cabaret' style lineup. It's been so long since I went but they had a number on each girl and you'd say the number of the girl you wanted. Each guy would 'draft' his girl! That's the plus side. The first downside is the times I went, many of the girls weren't Japanese (but Asian), and the second downside is they aren't as hot as the top oppai pubs. But they were hot and I did go back. My first visit was 23 years ago, most other shops did not survive this long. I feel like the better oppai pubs have more girls fawn over you and give better service due to the upsell potential.

Beginner friendly for sure. Lack of pressure is probably why I liked it so much LOL. Your experience was not my experience though. All the girls I saw were definitely Japanese. And the girls didn't have numbers, it was just the regular random girl assignment like others. Not as hot as other clubs like you said though.

Thanks again for the advice and words of wisdom. I'm sure next time will be even smoother.

[Rick Rock]

Seems to be a cultural thing, related to perceived personal "compatibility". Much the same as westerners match star signs.

I get regular blood tests; I asked my doctor what type I was, he didn't know because they don't test for that any more. Maybe it only matters if you're getting a transfusion.

Yeah, they call it "Ketsueki-gata".

https://savvytokyo.com/a-crash-cours...d-type-theory/

You can find out your blood type with any blood test or even when you donate blood. It's easy to detect.

You would normally find that out early on in life, but even if you know it they will test again to make sure if you get into any emergency situation.

But East Asian people will ask you it all the time when it comes to dating, so it's good to know if you want to go that route.

FYI most Japanese are A or O.

[Rick Rock]

I was just not all that into her as she was too skinny and didn't do it for me. After the shower, we got on the bed and she gave the usual tongue bath. Really felt like she was going through the motions, not a GFE experience. The worst part was just lightly touching her vagina seemed like it was the first time she ever got touched. Well of course this girl didn't know how to do it properly.

No offense but this is a really strange take. You went to an amateur place and seem peeved that they gave you an amateur. The entire point of TAE is that you're getting skinny fresh girls who are new to sex.

[PNWGentleman]

I had a few days in Tokyo on business but had a packed itinerary so didn't have time to explore or practice the hobby as much as I would like. I did have the opportunity to try TAE 3 times during my trip. When they say that YMWV, that might be an understatement, what I found in every interaction is you are just rolling the dice on basically everything (from body type, to secret menu, to attraction, to even just basic services! When ordering just don't get your hopes up and don't have any expectations except that you will have a release at some point. Given the price point, this type of arrangement might be fine for some Gents but I did not like it. I booked all women directly with the administrator at the TAE office and used the connected love hotel next door.

Girl 1 - I selected a girl with "big boobs" from about 7 picture cards of available talent. I paid the administrator around 22 k and he called the love hotel to tell them to expect me and got me a room number, he told me to tell the front desk I am there for room number 403 and pay for the room. I am 100% sure that my girl was given to another Monger who had walked into the love hotel 30 seconds before me because the front desk was giving him the keys to my room number. I tried to tell the front desk that was my room but the interaction was lost in translation..

Just no thank you .22 K no extras?

[Traveler X]

The following post is a long commentary on oppai pubs aka sekukyaba. If you're not interested, please skip!

Manzoku (Sekukyaba's specifically).

I walked up to the curtain and older gentleman outside turned to me. "What are you looking for? He asks in Japanese. "Oppai clubs? I asked, in Japanglish. "We have those. Come inside".

He showed me a couple posters of some of the clubs and then confirms if I speak Japanese..He told me about what you can and cannot do (truth is that the rules are a little more flexible depending on the girl, but of course YMMV). He was also being a bro by telling me not to not extend on my first visit and not buy too much for any girl.

When you use Manzoku to go to oppai pubs, they give you the promo rate of 6000 (early bird) or 8000 yen for 40 mins. This is better than full price of 10000 or 12000 yen ($76) at some shops. The full rate is also the 40 minute extension rate. So by default, most people don't extend. What you can do is use Manzoku to enter yet another shop for 8000 yen for 40 mins. But when I found a true favorite girl, I do extend her because she's worth it.

You did very well. You saw hot girls and made it far with them. Yes you could potentially have turned down the last girl and saved money, but you did like her and had a fun memory. You even got her rival interested in you, you won't forget it. There are other clubs where the girls aren't as hot, and people can end up paying for an okay time but not what you got. And I think it is good value compared to DH.

The advice I give to "English only" tourists is different than "some Japanese" tourists. Anyone who can speak some Japanese should go Hosekinobako and Leicster. Whereas Luxe is the most foreigner / English friendly. But anyone with a Japanese friend can enter any club, then they are free to re-enter them.

I ranked them as Hosekinobako, Leicester, Sweater Moon, Club Sexy, Luxe, Super Angel:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3001752 Oppai club guide
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3002310 Manzoku

Sexy and Angel both have hot girls, but the service levels is tamer.

I can't get the Manzoku google maps link to work, so I'll attach an image showing how to walk there. Their shop sign is a black bat and there are a bunch of "18 and up" curtains. You can use Don Quijote and Famimart as checkpoints. Walk past all black touts and don't speak with them.

If you are a gentleman with good manners and hygene, then most girls are happy to do everything. The main rule is not to touch a girl's pussy. I would keep it natural and make sure the girl is comfortable. As you saw, most girls know how to have a good time and a few will even take the lead.

Leicester

It was around 7 so he suggested I check out Leicester. I was stoked since earlier reports praised Leicester. He called them up and and said he had a Japanese-speaking foreigner. 20 minute wait. That was fine by me so I agreed. We made some small talk for a bit and I was trying my best to not expose myself as a phony.

After a few minutes his colleague came to guide me to the store. He was dead-silent the whole walk, only occasionally glancing back to make sure I didn't get left behind. Once we got to the building I decided to prove myself and make a little small talk in the elevator. After that he spoke only in rapid-fire Japanese. We get to the door of Leicester and he goes over the rules again (in 2 x speed). Luckily the bro at Manzoku already explained, so it wasn't too hard to follow along. I asked a simple question to something he said to show I wasn't pretending to listen. After this he hands me off to the staff.

For those who can speak some Japanese, this is how it feels at first. Don't worry about it. I'll say that once Manzoku confirms your Japanese, you are set. It is not a high bar, maybe just 2 to 4 years of Japanese. No more tests by either the escort or the shop. Avoid Golden Week holiday.

The "20 minute wait" is normal, I've gotten 40 or 60 minute wait sometimes in later hours. Hosekinobako opens 5pm and Leicester opens 7pm. right after opening and Mon-Thu are less congested. There are busy days and times where they are "full" and you can't go.

..so when the staff first started talking to me (in rapid fire Japanese, as usual), I had no idea what he said. I probably looked lost so he asked again in English. "Do you need to use the bathroom?" Gah, damnit. I read about this and should've figured that out from context. Oh well. I responded simply that I was alright and he led me to my table. He reiterated that it was going to be a 20 minute way and then asked for my drink order. I'm not really a beer kind of guy, but something about a cold asahi or sapporo hits just right in Japan. Ordered one of those and tried to look around at the girls while sipping. Unfortunately, I was seated in the section closest to the door and couldn't really see all that much. I had a partial view of one girl and a 3/4 angle of another. It was pretty amazing seeing her climb onto the dude's lap and take her top off. Damn. Still, I was stuck waiting. They gave me some complimentary snacks while I waited.

For those in this situation, they'll say some variant of "Otearai wa daijobu desu ka?" with the key word Otearai. For those interested, see the oppai pub guide where the sequence is explained:

"Free" aka furee is the normal course when you see 3 random girls for 40 minutes, as opposed to "shimei" where you nominate/extend a specific girl you like by name..When you walk in they might ask about otearai which means if you need to use the bathroom. Daijoubu desu means you're good. When you sit they give you a towel and ask about "nomimono" which is what you want to drink. Beer is beeru. VIP is veep, don't pay for that. Most girls will ask if you'll buy them a drink, some guys do some guys don't - if I like a girl I do it's complicated to explain the pros and cons. Know how to ask or signal a girl to hop on you and show you her tits, I managed to ask that with 3 months of Japanese 20 years ago. Make an effort yourself.

If a girl is shy, I ask for permission even though the answer is always yes. If she is forward, just go at it. Some clubs like Sweater Moon and Sexy have more expensive double and triple shot drinks ($24 to $40), don't buy them. On repeat visits a girl may ask you to buy champagne, definitely don't buy that.

First time orientation
I'll describe the Lester routine. First there is a rule explanation at door of what you can and can't do. You can kiss her lips, boobs, anywhere waist and above. Don't touch her privates, you can touch her legs. Everything else is common sense. They explain the costs to enter, to keep a girl, to buy a girl's drink, and extension. A bit overwhelming the first time but if you know it, it's similar at each club.

At Lester (short for Leicester), the outer door then opens and you see a bunch of cups with green mouthwash. You gargle with mouthwash, then out of politeness I spit it back into the cup and pour it down the draink. Then toss the cup. They may offer hand sanitizer and ask if you need to use the bathroom. At Hosekinobako, you go up the stairs and at the top they ask if you need bathroom (otearai). I say now and then they lead me to my seat and ask what drink I want (nominomo). I say draft (nama beeru). Sip your beer slowly and rarely so you don't get drunk!

A reminder that their business model is to get you to fall in love and extend a girl repeatedly at a higher rate. Never buy the champagne, it is prohibitively expensive of course and a waste. If you repeat visit a girl it's her job to ask you this, of course most guys don't. Like Bribs, just say "Not this time" or "Maybe next time" and never see her again. You can happily and cheaply hop oppai pubs if you only do the 40 minutes. Use the girl's card to nominate her next time, there is often a discount for doing so.

I know it is a lot to read the full guide, but that's how manuals are. If you've ever seen those kung fu dramas where a guy picks up a scroll and he can do kung fu after reading them, that's why I write them. I've written oppai pub tips for 22 years and I'm getting too old. It's someone else's turn to see these young women and lick their tits.

Made out with her, talked, made out some more. Before I knew it, time was up with her. She said goodbye and told me to have fun on my trip. In hindsight I should have just kept her or at least bought her a drink, but I got lost in the moment. Something something 20/20.

One tip I give is if you find your girl, just nominate her. I mean it, the next girl could be better or worse but if you truly like a girl then it's as close to a 100% good time as you can predict. You say "shimei shitai" and the girl will signal to staff with a hand down gesture which means she is all yours. You "keep" her. If this is the 1st girl out of 3, it means she stays for all 3 rounds instead of 2 more girls. Whereas if it is the last girl, then it would mean you need to combo it with a time extension. Just extend by 40 mins by default. Nominating a girl is pretty cheap, it's the extension that costs more at full rate.

It's normal to turn down a girl you later regret, we've all done it. I'm sure we've also nominated a girl where a better girl was just around the corner, we'll never know. There's no wrong choice! If you do regret turning down a girl, you can just nominate her next visit. If she gave you a card, use it for a significant discount. The catch is she might not be working the next time. The staff will return the card to you and usually even honor the discount. I have actually used this method to get the discount for a girl I knew wasn't there lol.

They send you 3 girls for a reason. There is a good chance one of them is your type, but no one can predict which one it is or what order. As you saw, they definitely want you to find your girl. That's how they make the most money.

I harkened back to when Traveler X wrote feeling something similar around my age in Nagoya. I got it now. And yes, after absorbing so much of Traveler X's advice in USAG and here I decided to pay homage with my name.

Yes, that's the only reason I write these guides. I'm getting too old, it's your turn.

I hadn't heard about Super Angel, so I asked him about it. Basically, it's a huge club. Over 40 girls working that night. Higher entry fee but girls' drinks are included. Hell yeah. I was down but I told him that I wanted to see Hoseki first. He called and said it was a 15 minute wait. I agreed and he immediately led me over himself.

Super Angel is beginner friendly. It's a good club in two ways: the pricing is all-inclusive of girl's drinks so no upsell pressure, and they have many girls in a 'cabaret' style lineup. It's been so long since I went but they had a number on each girl and you'd say the number of the girl you wanted. Each guy would 'draft' his girl! That's the plus side. The first downside is the times I went, many of the girls weren't Japanese (but Asian), and the second downside is they aren't as hot as the top oppai pubs. But they were hot and I did go back. My first visit was 23 years ago, most other shops did not survive this long. I feel like the better oppai pubs have more girls fawn over you and give better service due to the upsell potential.

When some girls started coming in, I was starstruck. They were way hotter. So many S-tier girls in one place. An A-tier girl came, kneeled and handed me her card, then sat next to me.

Yes, Hosekinobako is an open club where you can look around. It has a lot of S-Tier and A-Tier girls. The few B-Tier girls even know their own level so they will act extra cute to compensate lol. Hosekinobako is the furthest walk from Manzoku and you have to cross a street. Just know that when you exit just know there might be an Asian tout trying to get you to talk but you ignore them and keep walking. I've seen him every year - do not use him or any tout in Kabukicho.

While I was waiting for my second girl, I saw this gorgeous S-tier walk by. I was hoping on my lucky stars that she would come by table. Her body was exactly my type. After about 2 minutes she came over, kneeled, and gave me her card. Her card had her name written in sharpie, so I figured that she was new. I later found out that this was her second day on the job. Sometimes you get lucky. Talked, got a drink, kanpai'd, then she asked if she could hop on. She had no problem flashing her G-cups (Japanese size granted, but still) to win me over. We "talked" for a bit but then staff came by and tapped her shoulder that something came up.

Most of the time, you can nominate a girl on the spot to keep her. Or maybe another guy nominates a girl so off she goes (this is rare). However, sometimes the staff pulls a girl to give her "the talk". That's when you get a substitute girl like you did. The talk is where he explains that here is a legit customer who doesn't look like a bum, and there are stars in his eyes when he looks at her. So, get his contact, get him to come back, and sell him champagne. As you mentioned, this is the girl's second day. She isn't a pro at this, she didn't intend to do this but that's now her job. I've had some very nice girls do the same thing, they never pressured me but they were so sweet it is hard to say no. So like Bribs and I, we say try different things or say "maybe next time" on champagne. It is very tough saying no to a girl who treats you so well, I know it.

Make sure to get a girl's name / card so you can nominate her. I will sometimes even ask a girl's schedule for the week to plan a visit when she is there. If a girl you like gives you GPS, just move on. You can change girls by calling the staff and nominating any other girl. Then lick her rival's tits.

Meanwhile she swapped LINEs with me (bad idea #2) and kept making out with me, even when the staff returned with my change and playfully chided that my time was up. Good cop / bad cop routine. She walked me out (and made out with me along the way) until I broke away out of fear of getting in trouble. I stumbled out of there with my will wavering. This would lead to bad decisions, I knew. But damn if those weren't the best girls.

I was shocked- she brought me a gift!..They would offer me the bottle for half off plus another 40 minutes for free. I caved. I was probably never going to see this girl again and wanted to enjoy my time with her..Also funny enough, the other girl texted me complaining that she saw me at the club that night and that I didn't nominate her. Oops. She sent me a sexy video to try wooing me..

Worse things have happened to people.

Another day when I did return to Manzoku and asked if it was possible to use Manzoku and nominate a girl, they informed me it was not possible and warned me against nomination in general due to the much higher fees associated. They tried to warn me but I didn't listen (mistake #3).

The reason I recommend Manzoku is they are next level professional, they know what they are doing. There are a dozen other 24-hour info booths that are copycats of Manzoku, but the staff are clueless. It is a night and day difference.

I hope you keep winning. Attached is how to walk from Don Quijote to Manzoku. The second image shows Donki with Godzilla head in the background. Third image shows Donki on the left and a Famimart on the right. You want to walk straight down Kabukicho Sakura-dori (blue sign). Fourth image shows a closeup of the Family Mart. Then the walk until you see Manzoku on the left. During daytime, the place is shuttered so that is the google street image of it. At night, it's full of "18 and up" curtains. Their staff are all in business suits, some might stand just outside to greet you.

Last two images are the first girl I got at Hosekinobako and the first girl I got at Leicester. Photo accurate. Hostess clubs and oppai pubs usually are exactly perfect accurate, unlike most DH / fs photos.

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… Then "why not? Hard sell from both of them. Even harder when she's on my lap and I'm 2 beers + a few shots in. Still, I refuse and say it's too expensive. He offers to reduce it by 30000. She tells him no, that she will offer it for 20000 cheaper but not that cheap (LOL). I refuse a few times and he leaves. Then the bill comes with an offer I can't refuse (mistake #4). They would offer me the bottle for half off plus another 40 minutes for free. I caved. I was probably never going to see this girl again and wanted to enjoy my time with her. It didn't even taste that great, but I got a "free" key-chain charm of her with a goofy face.

Do I regret it? Yeah a bit. I was more than able to afford it, but it was the principle of spending more than I wanted to at a club like this. Expensive lesson, but one I'm taking to heart. Heed my warning, fellow mongers. I'm keeping that charm to remind myself LOL...

I've been there and wrote about it.

Tl; dr.

I sessioned with a girl at THC. Top 3 most beautiful girls I have ever been with. I opted for two hours, FS and sans condom. Cost me a fortune. I went for it because what are the chances of an older gent like me banging a smokin' 22-year old Japanese girl in Japan? Pretty much zero.