Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

Agree. Cking has now become a consolidated website like what backpage used to do in 2010-15 era, sadly.

It is indeed going down, though you may find guys here aggressively promoting its never-ending aura, charm and magic.

I don't know anyone who is saying Seeking is great or as good as it used to be. On balance it sucks. But it's worth it to many of us who put in the work and sort thru tens of girls to find that one gem. I have always described it as a massive pile of bullshit with a diamond inside. Sooooo much shit to slog thru for the diamonds. And the mound of shitnis larger. And the diamonds fewer. But they are still there. You just have to put in the work.

To voodoo jones comment, yes a girl eh wants hourly gets immediately blocked. I'm not looking for straight up hookers. I like the GF illusion and the pricing that goes with it.

[Hhann]

Agree. Cking has now become a consolidated website like what backpage used to do in 2010-15 era, sadly.

It is indeed going down, though you may find guys here aggressively promoting its never-ending aura, charm and magic.

I find the women on Seeking who want to charge by the hour interesting. I can browse escort sites for free and pay half of what they want. Why am I paying a subscription fee to get up-charged?

If they're hot enough, maybe they'll go to the back of line, but most likely my other options will keep me busy.

[EasyIslandLife]

So I bought plane tickets for "J", and had to trust her to show up to the airport and get on a 2 1/2 hour long flight to Labuan Bajo from Jakarta without me accompanying her, while I flew from Yogyakarta. I think I got lucky because it all went according to plan and she had already check into the resort by the time I arrived.

After the two excellent sessions I had with "J", my expectations were high for an all around great GFE. I promised $1200 for 6 days, again, I probably could have paid less, in the neighborhood of $900 ($150 per day was the original agreed upon price), but who cares.

A week with "J" was an experience. I've never had a partner that was as wild and horny as she was. Upon my arrival, the first thing we did was shower sex and she was light enough for me to pick her up and fuck her standing in the shower. Everything was BBBJ, BBFS in the tightest of pussy's, endless animalist sex, she continued to talk dirty and she recommended we watch porn together while fucking. I'm pretty sure watching porn is where she learned how to be such a horny dirty girl. We averaged sex about 4 times per day, constant flirting, constant touching, every night we slept naked so we could have sex in the middle of night, literally the best GFE I've ever had.

We got to know each other very intimately, I learned I was too big for her and had to be gentler with her in some positions like miss, but I could go to town when she was prone or her legs were together. Literally, no complaints as she was servicing almost every erection of mine she noticed. I actually started to hide some of my stiffies because my abs were getting so sore from overwork. Because it was all BBFS and she knew how to properly use teeth in BBBJ, my johnson was fine without the discomfort of latex and chomp marks. Overall week of sex was a 10, I gave her $1500 I had such a great time.

We did some sightseeing, boat trips, Komodo dragons and stuff, but most of it was just fucking, on the couch while she was ordering room service, while she was talking to her mom, out on the balcony facing the ocean hoping no one on the beach looked up at night, BBBJ while I was on the phone trying to schedule tours, lots of Netflix and chill, anytime we didn't have anything to do like when we were waiting for a ride to arrive, we would just have sex even if it was just to kill 15 minutes. Her English was limited and I don't speak Indonesian, so what else were we going to do. We tried all sorts of positions I've never tried before, learning and testing all types of things first hand, like how bath sex underwater just plain hurts (well known, but I'd never actually run the experiment until this trip).

Her limited English was not a issue and I'm considering taking her on an international trip. I'm probably just a simp. I think she is looking for a serious relationship with an older man as she talked about the 25 year age difference between her parents (I'm only 23 years older than her) and she loves babies *Danger* **Danger** *Danger* Run Awayyyyyy!

FYI, we got a couples massage at Rana Spa and the masseuse on the other side of the curtain was definitely giving the guy a HJ. Not sure what else is available at the massage places, but out in the middle of nowhere Indonesia where Grab doesn't even work, I'm sure it wouldn't be difficult to find what we're looking for on the side at any of the massage places, as they all appear to be female staffed. You might have to bring your own condom and please keep it on the down low, as rumors can ruin a village girls reputation where everyone knows everyone else, it's not Jakarta after all.

Enjoy the island life people, it's fun.

Ratings: Face with make up = 7, Face without make up 7, Body = 10, Attitude = 10, Service = 10.

[EasyIslandLife]

While I was fucking SB "A", SB "J" was flirting all day over WhatsApp, sending stickers liked the one of the cat sucking a dick. After sending "A" on her way, I called housekeeping to get a 2nd round of room cleaning between girls as I was meeting "J" at 7 PM and didn't want to bring her back to the messed up room, dirty towels, 2 used condoms in the garbage and a bed that smelled of strawberry scented lube. When I had to leave for the date and they hadn't shown up, I called again and learned they only do one cleaning per a day (what kind of 5 star hotel is this!) I requested a 2nd cleaning and explained I would pay for it, left 100,000 IDR on the table and prayed to the hotel cleaning gods.

I met "J" at Pagi Sore, a normal Indonesian restaurant fingers crossed about the room. She walked into the very conservative Indonesian restaurant, where all the staff and other females were in Hijabs with literally no skin showing, in a bubble ultra mini skirt showing off every inch of her gorgeous long legs with bloomers out and tiny top showing off her shoulders and cleavage. I laughed inside.

Back at the hotel room, only part of my prayers were answered. The cleaning staff thankfully changed the sheets and emptied the garbage of the used condoms, but did not change the towels. I called a 3rd time and bought plane tickets for "J" to join me for Labuan Bajo while we waited for new towels, all while trying my hardest to hold "J" at bay as she was walking around naked and being ultra flirty and handsy, sitting on my lap and rubbing me in all the right places. I still had my cloths on because I had to open the door for the cleaning staff to exchange towels.

Finally with plane tickets booked and new towels, "J" wanted to shower together and I was pleasantly surprised when she went straight to a HJ and BBBJ with the water running. Dried off and in bed, she wanted to go BB and I expressed my concern about knocking her up after finding out she is not on birth control. She kept insisting she was clean and saying all the things I love hearing in my really messed up head about how she wanted to feel the real me inside her, how badly she wanted to make me cum this time and how she wanted my cum inside her. I finger tested her (it smelled clean) and close visual inspection showed she had the perfect tiny pink pussy covered by dark tan lips and puffy labia shaved cleaned for what little that's worth, literally nothing more than the nice view as I left my STI testing finger in America. I finally gave in and let her slide me in BBFS, hoping to use the original birth control method of not finishing inside her, ah high school memories. BBFS felt good, it seems like forever since I last BB a tight pussy (really it was just a couple of months ago). We went at it like animals again, but I was trying to be cognizant not to cum inside of her. As a result, I couldn't really enjoy it as much as I wanted because every time I came close, I had to pull out and she would give a BBBJ and HJ. Then we would go back to fucking in all sorts of positions including some I've never tried before. Eventually, she finished multiple times while I was still too worried about knocking her up, but we had to stop at some point of exhaustion. So we cuddled and slept naked.

I woke up with a woody in the middle of night and tried for more sugar, I assumed this was why she slept naked, but she rolled over and declined. I woke up early at 6 AM using the excuse I needed to pack and leave for the airport at 7 AM (when really I just had SB "A" showing up at 7:30 AM), but she started giving me a HJ and started with a BBBJ before I had to stop her. I showered first, then packed while she showered. I slipped her $200 and I finally got her out just after 7 AM. Overall service was a 9 with point loss for no middle of the night sex because she was tired. My inability to maximize enjoyment of her service is on me. I counted my blessings that the Grab ride dropping SB "A" off (early by the way, apparently this is not Mexico City, District Federal), was not the Grab ride picking up SB "J" up. Who know what the bellhops and guards were thinking when they saw me kissing "J" goodbye and 15 minutes later welcoming "A" with kiss after checking out. If you want to follow chronological, please see my Jakarta post Trip to Jogja with a Classics girl.

Ratings: Face with make up = 7, Body = 10, Attitude = 9, Service = 9, Stress level = High.

[Elvis 2008]

Elvis, you were one of the members that got me using Seeking years back. I was wondering if using an American number on Whatsapp gets you worse results than using a Colombian number. I'm still in the US and been back on the site for a week. You think I'd be better off waiting until next week when I have a Colombian number? I don't remember there being much difference in the past.

They'll figure out I'm a gringo eventually, of course. But maybe the opening offer would be lower.

I had hundreds of responses and never thought about the phone number.

I would not really reach out until you are ready to leave. It is fine to look, but I would not send messages until at least 2 days before you are ready to leave. The women have short attention spans. A lot of women who reached out to me may have gotten cold feet or things happened in their lives.

Occasionally, I will look at the updates section of whatsapp and see how many of the women have kids or husbands now. It blows me away.

Looking back on it, in 2021, it was what 5000 COP to the dollar and so many women were laid off or just bored or strung out by the pandemic. The back half of 2020 and 2021 may have been the most fun I had in my life. Unless we see a massive recession, I do not think things will ever be that good again.

[EasyIslandLife]

I contacted "J" via WhatsApp, she was surprised thinking I didn't like her because she didn't speak English well, I used a condom and I didn't cum (side of effect of low dosing tadalafil) like she said she did multiple times. She offered a couple of her friends for a date, sending me pictures and everything, before I explained I wanted to see her and take her on my trip. I agreed to meet her and her friend at Skye Bar anyway, and I'm pretty sure a threesome was on the table if I wanted. "J" showed up in tight jeans and a blouse. Her friend came in a little white dress with a low cut top showing off her ample cleavage. Friend "T" was a 23 year old recent university grad looking for work. A little thick, nice tan skin with big tits, big hips and big bunda, probably 5'2" and 130 lbs. Quite pretty, although she looked nothing like the filtered photoshopped pictures "J" sent, and she spoke excellent English. I bought the girls a nice dinner and drinks with a rooftop view. We were out late and I was actually thankful when they wanted to go home instead of coming back to my hotel. I was tired and a bit sore after smashing "J" multiple times the night before and "A" for the extra long session in the afternoon. Condoms are rough on the johnson and the thought of a threesome was not that appealing at that specific moment. I agreed to meet "J" tomorrow night alone as I needed to book her flights so she could join me on my trip. If you want to follow chronological, please see my Jakarta post Classics Girl Day Game 2 next.

[EasyIslandLife]

I met up with "J" at Cecilia's Bar for food (more fake Wagyu beef) and cocktails. Another 22 year old university student from Bandung. The original agreed upon price was $150 USD (she was OK with foreign currency, thank god because paying SBs all in IDR would have required lugging around a fucking suitcase full of their bills). To ensure she showed up, I upped the gift to $200 the day before because I didn't have $50 bills and wanted to incentivize her showing up. She showed up in a black pant suit with frills. Another super skinny spinner with a rack. Even though she didn't look much like her pictures or the video call due to the use of those augmented reality video face filter apps, at least she was still actually pretty. Medium length black hair, beautiful soft tan skin head to toe, big Indonesian eyes, thick luscious lips and a lot less make up without the need to hide acne and acne scarring. Face score was a 7 with make up and 7 without make up in full daylight. 5'1" and probably less than 80 lbs, big be cups with dark areola, nipples that were easy to get to stand at attention with the slightest arousal, another tiny waist I could almost wrap my hands around, perfect tiny ass and fully shaved down below. Actually she was so thin, I could basically wrap one hand around her neck as she was another girl that asked for choking and this time I obliged. Another Janice Griffith body only a bit skinnier. Body score was a 10 for me. Overall visual score 8.5.

"J" was a very flirty handsy girl, not afraid of touching and petting at the table at the nearly empty restaurant. English was not as good as advertised, so why not as I'm probably never showing up at this bar again. Back at the hotel, superb DFK, a quick shower, then into bed for more DFK and excellent BBBJ with plenty of ball licking, sucking and even proper use of teeth. She asked about a condom and I pulled one out. Then we went at it, sex in one of the tightest pussy's I've ever had the pleasure of penetrating. Multiple positions and variations: miss with legs up, legs spread and legs together, cowgirl, variations on scissoring, until eventually the condom started to dry out. We took a break and ordered strawberry lube from Alfamart through Grab (102, 700 IDR or $5.90). While we waited, she took off the condom and went back to giving me a BBBJ. Once Grab called, I had to put on cloths and go all the way downstairs and out to the street to pick up the lube only to discover that the Alfamart was literally across the street from the hotel, LOL. Lube in hand, cloths off and back at it, going through the same positions and several more such as prone and spoon. I could feel her get wetter and wetter as we went at it like animals (the lube became unnecessary) until we were both just knackered and collapsed from exhaustion. We cuddled, petted and finally went down to sleep naked. In the middle of the night, she comes over for a nice naked cuddle, I get hard, she asks about a condom, I put one on and I move into penetration in spoon. Spoon was followed by more intertwining positions and general good times until we were tired again and back to sleep until morning. I woke up with morning wood, but she had to get to class, so a short HJ was all I got before showering. Overall performance was a 9 for the LT overnight, great DFK, great BBBJ, very tight pussy, almost unlimited fucking, would have been a 10 if she just skipped class and serviced my morning wood. Where are the priorities with girls these days?

"J" performance was good enough that I decided to cancel my 4th SB date last minute. A 27 year old that was pretty pissed about it, not the first time a potential SBs been mad at me, so I'm getting use to it. Instead, I decided to WhatsApp "A" from Classics to see if her performance would improved for some day game before work, hoping she would be less tired. If you want to follow chronological, please see my Jakarta post Classics Girl Day Game next.

Ratings: Face with make up = 7, Body = 10, Attitude = 10, Service = 9.

[EasyIslandLife]

I juggled dates with SB candidates in the morning. After some back and forth, I agreed to meet "Ca" at Henshin, her pictures looked good and she passed the video chat test a couple of weeks ago. High end restaurants in Indonesia label a lot of beef Wagyu, I call bullshit, they charge about $10 per serving in Jakarta and it taste nothing like real Wagyu, way too chewy, little flavor, not nearly fatty enough and way too cheap.

The original agreed upon price was 3.5 million IDR ($201.38 USD) to meet "Ca", but in the afternoon after some flip flopping, I agreed to up the gift to 5 million IDR ($287.69 USD) for a LT overnight in hopes of making sure she showed up after the incident with "Dh". I soon regretted it.

She showed up in a white form fitting dress. 22 year old university student, 5'1" and maybe 100 lbs. Unfortunately, I missed the heavy use of face filter apps in the video call (stupid augmented reality filter technology bullshit), so I was a bit disappointed at the meeting. Her face looked nothing like the her pics or the video call. Long black hair, big Indonesian eyes, flat Asian nose, full lips, heavily made up with significant acne and acne scarring, face with make up was a 5. At least her body was still a nice hot pear shape with smooth light skin, tiny waist with some hips and ass (unfortunately with slight cellulite) and be cups, fully shaved down below. Body score was an 8 as I'm a sucker for a tiny waist. Combined visual score around a 6.5. At least she spoke English conversationally.

Back at the hotel, we started with DFK and showered together but nothing but touching chests and backs. In bed, at least the BBBJ was excellent. Honestly, really good, as good as I've had in Mexico and Brazil, which is saying a lot. She really knew how to suck and lick and did not forget to spend time on my balls. After a long BBBJ, she nervously ask about a condom and seemed ecstatic when I said yes, so I assume BBFS was on the table if I wanted. The sex overall was not great, at least she was really tight, but she barely got any excursion in cowgirl, just kind of sat on top and barely wiggled, so I had to do all the work. So I went to work as a smashing machine: miss, spoon, doggie and prone where at least I got to really enjoy her tight pussy in front of the mirror in the room (the only reason to really get the Executive Room at Movenpick). We kept at for like a while, she asked me to choke her, but I declined, not my thing. It felt good inside her due to her tightness, even though she was mostly a starfish, until her pussy dried out with the condom and I could tell I was literally hurting her, so we stopped. She decided to return to cowgirl with spit, but we had no lube and she was pretty dry. I let her return to BBBJ, no rinse and she asked me not to finish in her mouth, face or hair, really, whatever. Finally, she finished me with a HJ while biting my nipple. Even though we had agreed that she would spend the entire night and provide morning sex for the 5 million IDR, she asked to leave and I let her. Overall service was a 5, good DFK, excellent BBBJ, sex wasn't great, but at least her lower mileage pussy was nice and tight. I'm pretty sure Classics girls are very high mileage in comparison to SBs on seeking. Total costs 5 million IDR ($287.69 USD).

Ratings: Face with make up = 5, Body = 8, Attitude = 4, Service = 5.

[EasyIslandLife]

I spent a month on Seeking setting up SB dates. Probably shot gunned 70 different pretty thin girls with the same generic message. I got a fairly healthy response, but there were definitely girls that mentioned money on Seeking's messaging system and one almost got me banned when I responded to it (I literally asked her not to mention money on Seeking and got reported). Ended up messaging about 40 of the girls on WhatsApp or Telegram with the primary criteria being ability to speak English and travel with me.

I worked on getting them to specify gift amounts, which varied wildly. Most fell between 2. 4 million IDR ($138) to 6 million IDR ($345). GPS is a serious issue even in Indonesia with some girls asking for 10 million IDR ($575) and one even asking for $1000 USD PPM, LOL. Those that fell between 2. 4 million IDR and 3. 5 million IDR I vetted with a video call, about 15 girls (damn Seeking is time consuming) because photoshop makes this a requirement. Most of the girls looked nothing like their photoshopped pictures (we're talking possible ladyboys, sickly or just plain fugly) but 6 of the girls passed the video call test, so less than 10% of the original. When I have a choice, my preference is a pretty little spinner with a decent rack in their 20's, but who among us hasn't picked up a 3 or 4 or even a fatty (for the BJ) when not paying.

I set up 4 dates and planned to take a girl or two on vacation with me to Yogyakarta and Labuan Bajo. I stayed at Movenpick, which was a nice enough hotel next to Emporium and close to Classics, and girl friendly as far as I could tell. Their pastries are not that good by the way, but the bar for edible pastries in Indonesia is very low, across four 5 star hotel and resorts, I didn't find a single edible croissant.

My first scheduled SB date was with "Dh" at a nice Indonesian restaurant Plataran Menteng in town, her request. "Dh" was 27 year old, pretty enough, 5'1" and 100 lbs and spoke English. Confirmed the meet the day before while traveling, morning of and as I was leaving the hotel 30 min before. On the Grab ride to the restaurant, 10 minutes before arrival, she bailed saying her father died. Fail. I ate alone at the fine dining restaurant. Thank god for Classics and back up plans, as I headed straight there next.

If you want to follow chronological, please see my Jakarta post Thank god for Classics and back up plans next.

[TomTraubert]

Anyone else noticing a big decrease in quantity and quality nowadays, especially in Europe?

Been doing Europe for the last 2-3 years, and planning a Euro summer soon. Usually cities like Barcelona, Madrid, London, Amsterdam have too much to choose from, spoilt for choice and hard to pick which ones to message / meet. This year I've been seeing much of the same profiles as previous years, all looking like hardened pro's, and very few if any of the 18-27 girl next door / student types. And almost all of these GND types accounts that pop up seem to sign up, and they never log on again, with their profiles last seen date closed to their join date..

I think it's a global phenom. The rebranding as a dating site plus the flood of pros and OF models plus hyperinflation is a perfect storm for disaster. I was getting no time limit dates with models and porn stars raw dog for 500 here in LA. Now plain girls and cougars call that Splenda.

I tried seeking in Spain 3 years ago and was shocked at how hard it was to get someone under 500. I did find a great hard body cougar for 400 though but she seemed like the exception.

I'm planning a Fall assault on Mexico and plan to use seeking and will report back. I am traveling solo and for an extended period so staying in an airbnb so a regular I can register would be ideal in many ways. I imagine real SBs would be horrified at going to a love motel LOL.

[Voodoo Jones]

I found many of the women in Colombia and Mexico to be much the same though Mexico is getting more Westernized.

Elvis, you were one of the members that got me using Seeking years back. I was wondering if using an American number on Whatsapp gets you worse results than using a Colombian number. I'm still in the US and been back on the site for a week. You think I'd be better off waiting until next week when I have a Colombian number? I don't remember there being much difference in the past.

They'll figure out I'm a gringo eventually, of course. But maybe the opening offer would be lower.

[Voodoo Jones]

I find the women on Seeking who want to charge by the hour interesting. I can browse escort sites for free and pay half of what they want. Why am I paying a subscription fee to get up-charged?

If they're hot enough, maybe they'll go to the back of line, but most likely my other options will keep me busy.

[DigLicker]

Anyone else noticing a big decrease in quantity and quality nowadays, especially in Europe?

Been doing Europe for the last 2-3 years, and planning a Euro summer soon. Usually cities like Barcelona, Madrid, London, Amsterdam have too much to choose from, spoilt for choice and hard to pick which ones to message / meet. This year I've been seeing much of the same profiles as previous years, all looking like hardened pro's, and very few if any of the 18-27 girl next door / student types. And almost all of these GND types accounts that pop up seem to sign up, and they never log on again, with their profiles last seen date closed to their join date.

Sad state of affairs.

Pivot to online work and influencers etc. Just getting messaged directly on IG by guys to fly them out or what?

I really wonder.

Not really. If anything I am seeing the opposite. Why would these factors be worse than 2 years ago considering alot of the online avenues are saturated with AI and women trying to do the same thing for zero work.

[Jbob084]

Anyone else noticing a big decrease in quantity and quality nowadays, especially in Europe?

Been doing Europe for the last 2-3 years, and planning a Euro summer soon. Usually cities like Barcelona, Madrid, London, Amsterdam have too much to choose from, spoilt for choice and hard to pick which ones to message / meet. This year I've been seeing much of the same profiles as previous years, all looking like hardened pro's, and very few if any of the 18-27 girl next door / student types. And almost all of these GND types accounts that pop up seem to sign up, and they never log on again, with their profiles last seen date closed to their join date.

Sad state of affairs.

Pivot to online work and influencers etc. Just getting messaged directly on IG by guys to fly them out or what?

I really wonder.

[Akibono]

Hahaha I knew someone would low key flame me (thanks cane!) for being a bit beta in this situation, but I am eyes wide open. I tend to play a more BFGF game than most. And that leads to a bit longer term stuff (known her since I've 2024). And that means we don't always show our best selves. Because we've gotten super comfortable. So I am ok w a girl showing her emotions, as long as it's not lazy. Most girls do get lazy 1. 5 to 2 years in and that's when I end things. But having a tiff is not grounds for dismissal. Getting lazy about sex is.

I've realized also that the girls I really adore and sorta love (only 4 since 2018) were all very alpha. Like a woman who is admired by others and really takes charge a lot. And that's def N. She is everyone's dream girl. To just be around her energy is intoxicating and I am willing to be a little beta to keep it rolling. I know girls don't really want beta so I tread a fine line. But this girl is fire and not just her looks. She slays all that come in contact. So I am going to keep it rolling.

People who complain don't have a good game. A confident man does not have to worry about a woman straying. By being the alpha male, no other guy can compete. If you have to guard your prize, it is a sign of lack of confidence. And girls love guys with confidence. If you show a weak hand, she already trading up.