Sao Paulo Reports

[JZeleznik]

I actually like the vibe at Casarao. And the girls are prettier than before. But prices have gone up a lot and if you try the old pricing you may have a big argument. Happened to me twice. The girls agreed to 500 and I was clear I meant an hour. But in the room they wanted the money up front. I never do this but they were so nice. And then they say times up at 30 or 40 minutes and say no it's 800 for an hour. Maybe but that wasn't what was agreed.

So you can try to go in at 500/ HR but this seems to be the outcome. And it's not like Scan I don't even know who to complain to. 😂.

Of course I should not have paid before. Just don't do it. Walk away. So that's on me.

That said I did end up taking a girl to my hotel at 5 AM for 1000 and she was great. No quit in that girl. Wrapped up at 6:50 AM. Hahaha.

I completely agree on the new vibe and on the quality. They had some kind of party going on with a mechanical bull, spiced wine, cotton candy, and a few other interesting things, and it made for a fun atmosphere. I wish the prices weren't going up, but thanks for confirming its a more regular thing and not just me falling for gringo pricing.

Back to the hotel for an extended session might be the way to go now. I usually do that for repeats, though I am leery of doing it for a first time. I suppose you just have to roll the dice.

[OkSwimmer5517]

That report is from my first ever trip to Scandallo. Glad you enjoyed it. I deleted my reddit account because I was deeply hurt by some of the things you said. I was unsuccessful in deleting my ISG account guess it was fate so I could write this comment. Be careful who you're messing with, you might end up looking like a fool.

Evidence.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FkkSaunaClubs/s/CoVDTbrziE

I recently discovered a post on Reddit where a guy does an outstanding job of comparing the best FKK in Germany today (Sharks) to Scandallo. I know that from time to time the readership here is interested in these kinds of comparisons, and this report is one of the best I have ever seen. If you've ever wondered about the FKKs in Germany, then it's absolutely worth your while to read the report. And even if you're not, then the report is still highly recommended since, over the course of it, he does a commendable job of detailing the ins and outs of Scandallo, which is quite useful for anyone who wants to know more about Scandallo too. And for those of you like me who are already quite familiar with both clubs, and who just love to take in a well-written and entertaining piece, you're going to love this report as well! So, as my favorite librarian used to say, check it out! Here's a link to it:

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=3071088

But why are you quoting prices for Brazilian establishments in Euros? And writing a long report about FKK Sharks in the Sao Paulo thread instead of in the FKK Sharks thread where FKK aficianados would appreciate it the most?

Already posted in FKK reddit and I'm perfectly fine keeping my amazing experiences to myself. I don't have to post, tbh couldn't care less.

I can't remember how many times I've felt like telling somebody, "No, please don't try to help me". This is a place for sharing relevant, useful, and accurate information. And it helps when it can be entertaining too! If you can't do that or don't want to do that, then the forum will continue on and prosper as it always has. It's bigger than any one person. And I can assure you that we too have all the information we need. Good luck!

[Steve 9696]

I actually like the vibe at Casarao. And the girls are prettier than before. But prices have gone up a lot and if you try the old pricing you may have a big argument. Happened to me twice. The girls agreed to 500 and I was clear I meant an hour. But in the room they wanted the money up front. I never do this but they were so nice. And then they say times up at 30 or 40 minutes and say no it's 800 for an hour. Maybe but that wasn't what was agreed.

So you can try to go in at 500/ HR but this seems to be the outcome. And it's not like Scan— I don't even know who to complain to. 😂.

Of course I should not have paid before. Just don't do it. Walk away. So that's on me.

That said I did end up taking a girl to my hotel at 5 AM for 1000 and she was great. No quit in that girl. Wrapped up at 6:50 AM. Hahaha.

[Safado70]

EDIT: What is going on with the board editing my post? It seems like a bunch of little things got removed like the mention of reais after each number.

Many people have complained about this annoying bullshit, but the owner or webmaster doesn't care. The auto correction of this old forum software changes single letters to some random nonsense.

I'll type the letters of the alphabet, this is the result.

A be see the e f g h I j k l m and o p q are s t you v w x why z.

[JZeleznik]

If you've ever wondered about the FKKs in Germany, then it's absolutely worth your while to read the report.

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=3071088

Cane,

I think its a fairly solid report, though I wanted to highlight that in my experience the difference in quality of service is truly staggering. Even the few girls I tried multiple times at Sharks were perhaps a B- in service despite us having some real conversations and building a rapport. Typically that be- is the worst I get in Scandallo. Additionally one thing that I don't see talked about much, Sharks doesn't clean the rooms and they don't have showers in them. I'm not a clean freak by any means, but the fact that each girl just changes out the sheet and that's it was not something I would expect from an establishment of that size. Tiny clinicas get better room cleaning between fucks. Then I have to go off and shower in the locker room, and the girl I hope to god showers somewhere too.

Also I just wrapped up my first week in Sao Paulo so quick report time:

Monday: I make a late night trip to Casarao. The building has done some significant renovations since my last visit, and has much more space on the lower level. I end up overpaying for an hour with a gorgeous girl, but we had a great vibe and having just returned to Brazil I didn't want to blow it haggling too much if the pricing scheme had changed.

Tuesday: I make my way to Guaguin a little after 11 pm to see what the hype is about. A local friend talked it up to me as well, so in fairness perhaps between the reports here and him I set the mental bar too high. The club had a good vibe and felt very professional like Scandallo, but the talent lineup was a complete miss for me. I did not see a single girl who really impressed me, it felt like the sort of background characters at Scandallo who I would basically look past without even considering. Attractive enough, but not that I would consider paying for. I looked around for about an hour before getting cornered by a girl who I had no interest in, and after about 20 minutes of that I decided to leave and get some sleep that night. Given the lineup, I did have a bit of sticker shock in seeing my 500 are bill for entry.

Wednesday: I make my way to Scandallo at 10 pm and eat a late dinner. Entry was 600 are with 400 are consumable, so a tiny bump from my last visit. That said, it was absolutely worth it. Scandallo remains the kind of environment I would call an embarrassment of riches. I grabbed some phone numbers, took one to the room for that 1500 are which does seem to be the standard asking price, and had a great night. Attitude makes a world of difference for me, and she was extremely positive, friendly, and upbeat. To give people a sense of the kind of quality the club maintains, I accidentally dropped a 100 are note from my bill fold when paying her, and as I was at the door the girl pointed it out on the bed to me.

Thursday: I make my way to Casarao again, and run into a girl I went with many times on my last visit. She was always lots of fun, and this time was no exception. Back then she did 400 are for a half or 600 are for an hour, and this time was the same. I initially only planned for the half but we quickly ran out of time and she called someone to bring a card reader and I paid to extend the time.

Friday: I had been really enjoying the new Casarao environment so I decided to keep pressing my luck. Did a half hour with a redhead for 400 are, good looking girl and solid service. I decided to stick around late and met a girl who was friends with my Monday girl. She has very good energy and we have chemistry, and I ask how much. Comes back with 500 are for a half, 800 are for an hour which seems to be what everyone is hitting me with these days. I tell her yes, but only if she is willing to do anal. She says no, I say maybe next time then, and then she grabs me and says lets try it. She was fantastic in the room, and didn't try to shy away from anal once we were there which is a thing I have run into before.

Saturday: I push my luck too far with another return to Casarao. There are two stunners who really catch my eye, but they are sitting with guys for literally hours. Meanwhile I don't see any of the other girls I enjoyed previously. Finally a new girl catches my eye, and up close I realize what a spectacular body she is hiding under her dress. She tells me it is her second day in town, and she wants 500 are for a half and 1000 are for an hour. Mostly crucially she says she will only do a CBJ, and there is zero chance I am paying 1000 are for that. Regardless I was enjoying our chat enough I offer her a drink before we part ways, but after getting the drink we kept chatting and I say lets do a half hour and here things get weird. She says she was taught she needs the money before we go next door. Not before we fuck, not before we go to the room, but before we walk up to the checkout. I tried to clarify she understood the layout and that I was not taking her back to my hotel, just next door. I offer to pay her in the hotel lobby which in 70+ visits to Casarao I have done one time, as I would say 60% of girls ask for the money after and maybe 40% once we enter the room. She eventually says at the checkout area would be okay, but still that felt so strange to me I decided with great regret to pass.

In retrospect I wish I had rolled the dice on my 500 are because what I got instead was terrible. I see a girl I had chatted with Friday but decided to pass on, and agree to an hour for 800 are. She agrees to BBBJ but I can tell she would have 100% insisted on a CBJ if I hadn't specified. Not a great sign, but we soldier on. We go to the hotel, and after paying for the room I notice it says 180 are on my receipt. My Porto is still mediocre, but apparently she told the attendant we wanted some new overpriced room. I'm deeply annoyed, but suppress the feeling as not to get us off to a really bad start. The girl proceeds to give me the laziest of blowjobs if you could even call it that, and we have a middling fuck I can't wait to be over.

Sunday: The spirit was willing, but I just couldn't bring myself to hit up Casarao again after that previous night and I wasn't aware of any other Sunday night options. In Casarao I seem to be getting hit with this 800 are stuff constantly, so I intend to start going back to "500 are lets go?" and seeing how that pans out.

I'm going to try Gauguin again at some point this week, and perhaps another Scandallo run, or a stop at Bomboa. I also wanted to mention that more girls have expressed an interest in coming back with me for multiple hours for reasonable-ish rates of 1200-1500. While the current pricing seems quite high to me, I get the sense most have a threshold amount of money they are trying to clear and would be more flexible on time to do it.

EDIT: What is going on with the board editing my post? It seems like a bunch of little things got removed like the mention of reais after each number.

[ZohanDude]

Can someone share what the interactions with girls look like in Scandallo? Do you approach them or do they approach you? Once you agree on a price, do you need to use the rooms upstairs or can you too go off to your own hotel? What all do they allow I. E. Kissing, role play, act like GF etc. Or is it more like mechanical fuck in the holes and be done with it kind of interaction. Do they agree to stay overnight or stay with you for a couple of days? Is it common? Sorry for many questions, landing next week and info will be helpful. Thank you.

[Pokemonger]

Thanks for the report.

May I ask why you wondered out to Vila Leopoldina / Lapa neighborhood? Most gringos would not wander out pass Vila Madalena.

Speaking of Honey, if you mean mel on the website, I sessioned with her a few months ago in Yankin or Tangara. Ok service.

Abbobora is a great day time spot for hot women but the receptionist is a pain to deal with.

Anyways, hope you enjoy SP.

Yeah I wouldn't recommend that area to stay in. I only spent a couple days in Sao Paulo when I first arrived in Brazil just to settle in and figure out logistics before going to Rio. Would definitely recommend the other neighborhoods that people have been mentioning. And yes I got the name wrong it was Mel not Honey. Clinicas are okay if you just want to get your rocks off, but not being able to screen chicas makes it less enjoyable in my opinion. Generally cheaper at least.

[Steve 9696]

Thanks for the reply Steve. Would you happen to leave your passport in bag check or carry it on you throughout the club?

Depends on you and your frame of mind. I'm a glass half full kinda guy. I always leave it in my bag. Never even occurred to me.

[Zeyto]

Yes. They have a bag check. I do it all the time.

Thanks for the reply Steve. Would you happen to leave your passport in bag check or carry it on you throughout the club?

[Steve 9696]

Hey, I was looking to go back to SP later in August and I would definitely have a late night flight back to the states. Will Scandello let me store my bag somewhere while I try to go pick some girls up if there are any in the early evening?

Yes. They have a bag check. I do it all the time.

[Zeyto]

Casarao is strictly late night. But you can go to Scandallo earlier, even in the afternoon. Not as many women and not the same energy as later, but you'll still likely find a hot-looking one. I've done that quite a few times when my flight leaves SP at night.

Hey, I was looking to go back to SP later in August and I would definitely have a late night flight back to the states. Will Scandello let me store my bag somewhere while I try to go pick some girls up if there are any in the early evening?

[JacobMann]

This was one of the best Scandallo breakdowns I've read. My first trip will be later this year, I will certainly bookmark this post! Thanks!

Sao Paulo Day 1 .

Appreciate it. Here a few extra miscellaneous Scandallo tips from the forum that I can confirm, for the sake of more completeness.

- If you are going to consume a lot of alcohol in a group, or plan to come multiple nights, you can get a bottle and they will store it for you up to several months.

- 340 brl is the charge for the room. If you take a girl out of the club, this changes to a 400 brl takeout fee, so unless you have a specific reason for this, don't do it. After your test drive at the venue, you can get her number and schedule something later and avoid this fee if you want. I think the 10% card fee is not applied to this but you can confirm it.

- For whatever reason, if you take up multiple girls, they charge the 340 brl each time even if you only use one room.

- If you bring a girl to the venue, instead of the usual cover fee scheme, she pays the 400 brl takeout fee and gets no consumable spending from that.

- They are open noon to 5 AM every day but closed Sundays. Saturday has been reported to be the quietest and Thursday the most optimal, and nights better than daytime, but ymmv, try it all out.

[Tochka]

Question that came to mind as I was reading more about Scandallo and especially Casarao which directly impacted my decision to just stick to the clinicas during my first trip to SP, is why are these night time clubs open so late? Time and time again I heard that Casarao doesn't even get going until after midnight. At the same time, I kind of read that the majority of the clientele who visit these boates are local Brazilian dudes so apart from the weekend nights, don't these guys have daytime jobs to go to in the morning? Just wondering why these clubs (especially Casarao) made decisions to operate so late?

Because Casarão's crowd skews young party animals. It's ground zero for the late-night Baixo Augusta scene. Take a look around Rua Augusta at 0100 am.

These ain't old dudes needing oatmeal and bran flakes for breakfast. Local Paulistanos are at the botecos on Augusta, filling up, so the club doesn't even get started until after midnight.

It's basically a local bachelor party boate for single and groups of swinging dicks. Guys roll in 5 to 8 deep for the cheap entry just to cop a feel, watch the strip show, and grab a 19-24 yo novinha (tons of young mineiras from MG) to take to the rooms next door.

I've literally stood in line and watched dudes get turned away at the door for being underage and trying to sneak in. You will *never* see that happen at higher-end spots like Scandallo, Gauguin, Café Foto, or Connection. They skew older.

Next time it's packed and you're sitting on that long sofa for a room to open up with your favorite garota on your lap, do the test. Look down the row and quietly ask yourself:

Mofo "Younger than me, or older?" You'll quickly realize who is the oldest gringo in the joint kkkk.

Pro tip: The manager at Casarão has been running the floor for 21 years. He works the register on busy nights. If you want the real history of the scene, chat him up on a slow night. Same goes for Scandallo their managers have 18 to 21 years in the game too. History of how and why they do shit successfully for decades while other spots come and go.

[Combo]

Question that came to mind as I was reading more about Scandallo and especially Casarao which directly impacted my decision to just stick to the clinicas during my first trip to SP, is why are these night time clubs open so late? Time and time again I heard that Casarao doesn't even get going until after midnight. At the same time, I kind of read that the majority of the clientele who visit these boates are local Brazilian dudes so apart from the weekend nights, don't these guys have daytime jobs to go to in the morning? Just wondering why these clubs (especially Casarao) made decisions to operate so late?

Casarao is strictly late night. But you can go to Scandallo earlier, even in the afternoon. Not as many women and not the same energy as later, but you'll still likely find a hot-looking one. I've done that quite a few times when my flight leaves SP at night.

[One Eyed Man]

Question that came to mind as I was reading more about Scandallo and especially Casarao which directly impacted my decision to just stick to the clinicas during my first trip to SP, is why are these night time clubs open so late? Time and time again I heard that Casarao doesn't even get going until after midnight. At the same time, I kind of read that the majority of the clientele who visit these boates are local Brazilian dudes so apart from the weekend nights, don't these guys have daytime jobs to go to in the morning? Just wondering why these clubs (especially Casarao) made decisions to operate so late?

I went to a club in Rio at 8:00 pm ("when doors open") to see a band, however I had to hang out until they went on stage at 11:00 pm.