Sosua Reports

[Turgid]

........When I take her outside I see the taxi driver is waiting for me, and he's demanding 2000 DOP for driving her front and back. This was not discussed at all in my conversation with her on tinder, and I was paying the price. FYI for those that don't know this is basically 200% more than the usual taxi rate. This is because she booked the most expensive ride service and fully expected me to pay it without telling me. At this point though, it was late at night and I didn't want any trouble, so I hand the driver an extra 2 k and walk back to my hotel in defeat.........

Dude, you are a very polite nice person and you were milked for what could have been gotten out of you. If I am in my hotel room and a girl gave me the service that that woman gave you why on earth would I escort her outside? As soon as she's outside my room I would close the door with me inside, end of story. Not to be heard from or texted to again.

[Triple Darknes]

You finally figured it out at the end. Another sad report. I don't know why or how the new guys mess this up so bad. I'm guessing you're young. First mistake, staying at a place away from the action. The hotels near the strip are all within walking distance and cheap. Second mistake, you went online to look for girls. Did you read previous reports? You don't go online to get girls in Sosua, or you'll get exactly what you described. Instead, you walk outside your hotel and go get one. It's that easy. No transportation issues, you get to see them, talk to them, and feel them out before walking back to the hotel. I was doing this my first trip, and had no leche papi girls. Third mistake, you didn't know where you were. You say you're a tit guy, but then went to a place where the focus is all about ass. The girls are great, just not your kind. This is a classic mistake of not doing research. Sosua is a breeze. Don't make it harder than it needs to be.

You're correct but dude went to Brazil first then came to Sosua of course he's going to see it negatively.

I wasn't in Sosua the last time I was in the DR but I was damn near accosted by a haitian chick in a bar in Bavaro I took an inordianetly long time to come so she tapped out after an hour. Standard 2500 fee for me in Punta Cana of all places. A chick I knew flaked and I had a wonderful overnight with another Haitiana for 7 k. This was my mistake because it was supposed to be short time for 2500 K and ended up being long time I wanted to give her 4500 but she wanted 7 and since I already fucked before we established prices I took the Loss.

Why am I saying this? Because I'm a veteran of the DR and Veteran semi pro hunter I know how to convert a chance meeting into a fuck.

Telling a new monger to go to Sosua see almost nothing on the street, going to Bailee's or Blue Ice and taking a chance glance and convert it to getting into her pants is something that's a lost art.

Frankly if a dude can't cut his teeth on semipros in the states he'll never pick up on the subtile clues in the DR.

As far as going to Sosua yes it's way better to stay on the strip but at the end of the day the time when the baddies of Santo Domingo would show up in low season is well and truly over. Now you'd be lucky to get Intercourse with an Introvert from Imbert. If I were in Puerta Plata at this point I wouldn't waste my time going to Sosua even the beach is fucked up.

Literally going to Playa Alicia is the only reason to go now and that's if you happen to be in Puerta Plata and you must import from Puerta Plata at least and that's she's willing to risk going to Sosua with you.

On one hand if you are experienced and how how to read cues the Dominican Republic is a magical place especially for semipros that most guys especially new escapees from the US sex prison want. There is no place that Ive been to thats better for semi pro hunting but if you dont have any experience with semi pro hunting in the states He wouldnt know how to pick up a puta while getting a Pica Pollo on Pedro so if you dont know dont go

The best place for most guys is Rio

At this Juncture telling anyone that's not a Dyed in the wool Sosua Veteran with 20 girls on speed dial with Facetime verification is madness. I had chicks flake and one refusal / holdout for 5000 pesos for short time and I'm a veteran (though not of Punta Cana) sending aa Newbie out there to the Sosua Sirens is just going to piss them off.

At this point this board needs to be folded into the Other Areas section.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[Mr Enternational]

TLDR: 5000 mediocre catfish fuck that didn't even last 30 minutes, ended up costing an extra 2000 because I didn't specify transport. 7000 DOP total damage. Top 5 worst mongering experience I ever had, not necessarily just because of the price, but mostly because the service was garbage and for the unexpected extra charge at the end.

You stayed somewhere up a hill and spent 7000 pesos getting some pussy. You definitely did not read the forum.

[IronQuinn]

Approaching the local girls is a better experience IMO. No risk of getting catfished by edited photos, and since they are closer you can just take them to a nearby hotel and not have to pay for transport. Bailee's is a popular one that is good to check out. You don't even have to order anything. Everyone knows what you are there for.

You finally figured it out at the end. Another sad report. I don't know why or how the new guys mess this up so bad. I'm guessing you're young. First mistake, staying at a place away from the action. The hotels near the strip are all within walking distance and cheap. Second mistake, you went online to look for girls. Did you read previous reports? You don't go online to get girls in Sosua, or you'll get exactly what you described. Instead, you walk outside your hotel and go get one. It's that easy. No transportation issues, you get to see them, talk to them, and feel them out before walking back to the hotel. I was doing this my first trip, and had no leche papi girls. Third mistake, you didn't know where you were. You say you're a tit guy, but then went to a place where the focus is all about ass. The girls are great, just not your kind. This is a classic mistake of not doing research. Sosua is a breeze. Don't make it harder than it needs to be.

[Pokemonger]

I just got home from Sosua. I'm never going there again.
And honestly, there really is no point to sleep with a woman if the service won't be great. So sex by itself isn't the goal.

The goal is quality service (at least for me), which can only be delivered by certain women. Which is why screening will always be a cornerstone.

I mean that's great, my point is that out of 20 women, maybe 2-3 of those women would be at that level and quality that you described. The other 17-18 will be leche papi bullshit.

Those odds are definitely not worth me stepping foot out of the states, getting on a plane, setting aside time, etc, and all the other bullshit that comes with it.

What countries have you been to? In my opinion: Brazil Colombia DR.

I 100 % agree on if the service isn't good the sex isn't worth it.

Only in DR I have experienced the leche papi BS that you are describing along with the tip begging almost every time. While in Brazil and Colombia, I only got asked for tip once or twice after a long session. Plus they have a much friendlier attitude (meet with kisses) and much better service (sometimes DFK or GFE). I think there are reasons to go to the DR. Great food, nice resorts if going with family, but quality mongering isn't one of them. Plenty of pussy for sale but not great pussy. Oh and big natural asses on most women I suppose, but I'm more of a tits person.

[Pokemonger]

I was pretty excited coming here at first, but overall the mongering is very unsatisfactory here. I'm sharing this so others can avoid the same mistakes I did when finding an escort on Tinder.

I took a bus from Santo Domingo and one of the first issues I ran into was transportation. Ride apps like Uber / InDrive were flakeydrivers would accept rides, then message afterward trying to renegotiate the fare to 23 x the app price and ask for cash. Even for very short trips, the prices being demanded were crazy. One person offered $20 to take me 1. 5 km to my hotel. Hard pass. Best way to get around is to hire a motoconcho (motorcycle) or rent a car for a day with a couple of buddies. If you plan on mongering even once a day, the car is very worth it since otherwise the chicas will book the most expensive ride service and have you foot the bill.

My accommodation was cheap ($30/ night), but it was located up in the hills, which made logistics annoying. Getting up and down required motoconcho (motorcycle) rides, and the drivers weren't always reliable or easy to reach consistently. This is why I'm not crazy about beach towns. Typically more inconvenient to get from place to place.

Now onto the chicas.

The first person I met had photos that were really sexy, but in-person she just looked like an average Dominican girl. Quite a letdown. Thanks to advice from fellow ISGers, I did ask her to schedule a video call to confirm she wasn't a true catfish, but I should've trusted my instincts more and just blocked her after seeing the video. She kinda looked like the pictures but went from a 7 to a 6, and she had massive RBF LOL. However, I just chalked it up to being bad video quality and lighting, big mistake.

When we finally met, she gave off a very transactional vibe. No smile or hug. Strictly business. I get that a lot at clinicas, but you'd think an escort would have a lot more enthusiasm? Also keep in mind that since I met her in Tinder, there was some playful conversation beforehand, so she was definitely being very two-faced here.

The sex wasn't great either. She used lube which made the experience much more enjoyable, but it felt like I was fucking an emotionless sex doll. The worst part was that every time I switched position or stopped to take a break, she would ask if I came or not. WTF, is this common with chicks that give bad service? It made me want to take it slower on purpose just so I could maximize the hour. In the end though, I was tired of this shitty transaction so I tried to cum as fast as I could. After 20 minutes I finished and just wanted to pay her to GTFO.

Her reaction afterward could not be more robotic. After I came, she demanded a towel. Wiped herself, and then immediately hopped out of her bed to call her driver that was waiting just outside the compound. No GFE, cuddling, kind words, just a resting face. Even when I pay her there's no thank you. She grabs the money sticks it in her bra and tells me to escort her out. The shit experience doesn't end there: When I take her outside I see the taxi driver is waiting for me, and he's demanding 2000 DOP for driving her front and back. This was not discussed at all in my conversation with her on tinder, and I was paying the price. FYI for those that don't know this is basically 200% more than the usual taxi rate. This is because she booked the most expensive ride service and fully expected me to pay it without telling me. At this point though, it was late at night and I didn't want any trouble, so I hand the driver an extra 2 k and walk back to my hotel in defeat.

In the morning though, I have some post nut clarity and realize that I was wronged. So I just message her that her service was godawful and block her afterwards. Won't change much end of day, but felt good to get off my chest.

TLDR: 5000 mediocre catfish fuck that didn't even last 30 minutes, ended up costing an extra 2000 because I didn't specify transport. 7000 DOP total damage. Top 5 worst mongering experience I ever had, not necessarily just because of the price, but mostly because the service was garbage and for the unexpected extra charge at the end.

Approaching the local girls is a better experience IMO. No risk of getting catfished by edited photos, and since they are closer you can just take them to a nearby hotel and not have to pay for transport. Bailee's is a popular one that is good to check out. You don't even have to order anything. Everyone knows what you are there for. Just know though that most girls will refuse the typical DFK, GFE, BBBJ. Good luck.

Overall, I wouldn't recommend Sosua. I had a lot more fun in Santo Domingo, and you can still get a good amount of matches there without 90% of them all being sex workers. Beach was nice, but I won't be coming back. I won't be back to this shithole LOL. Will share my second experience when I get the chance.

[Norbert61]

The girls of sosua just treat the town like a place they can go to for a day to suck some money out of, and then go back home and shit in the neighborhood they're from as well. It's not like they show up to sosua and treat it well because it's a good opporunity. Nope, they just show up, take advantage, shit in the town, do a bunch of bullshit in the town, and then leave. Sad.

LOL. This is hilarious. Substitute the words "Short term mongers" for "girls" and "sex" for "money" and you will get what people who live in Sosua have been saying for years.

I suspect international mongering and probably travel in general is not for you.

[TerOnlyOnce]

I just got home from Sosua. I'm never going there again. On my last day there, my flight got delayed from the Puerto Plata airport and they had to cancel the entire flight. I've only ever been to Sosua 2 times, and on the second time I had to deal with a massive flight problem. I had to spend another night in the DR. The airline booked me a place to stay, all inclusive food, and transportation. But it was still bullshit because I wanted to leave that day and I had plans. I wasted a whole fucking day. And the next day I spent the whole day going through airports and bullshit. Normally I would consider this worth it, if my trip to sosua was grade A. But it wasn't. It was fucking medicore at best. I hardly spent time fucking or meeting women. I just sat in my room most of the day because 99% of the girls were fucking bitches. I did meet another American tourist half way into my trip, and then saw him again 2 days later. We reconnected and hung out for like 3 hours, drinking beers, talking about our trips, etc. But in short, I only fucked 2 new girls, and I was in sosua for a week. Both of them the service was not really too good for me, the first totally sucked, and the second one basically lied / scammed me by pretending to not understand English in the room. After that experience, I spent the second half of my trip just fucking the short term girlfriend I had, saw her 3 times in total and gave her extra money at the end of my last session, as a thank you for her not being a fucking be! Tch like the other 2 girls were.

It's true YMMV depending on your looks, and how you act. But, up charging is really a lack of vetting on the guy's part. You have to read the girl before bringing her back. It's not a hundred percent, but helps significantly to be a good judge of character. And, a big dick tax is bullshit. It's an excuse. I have a BWC and my experience has been the opposite. The girls I've been with enjoy it, and that includes Kenya and Papua New Guinea. By the way, if you're in PNG, forget Port Moresby and go to the highlands around Mount Hagen. The girls are much more laid back. Only once did I have a girl not like it and that was in shitty Tijuana. She just said no and walked out. But, one thing that affects the interaction is skin color. For example, those Sub-Saharan girls love a white face and I get a lot of messages when I'm on Badoo before a trip.

In Sosua that doesn't matter as much. Those girls are coming in for one reason and if you've got the cash you're good to go. But, looks and how you act does make a difference on service. That's just human nature. For example, three years ago I was in the small casino near Playa Sosua with a Haitian friend I had met on a previous trip. He saw a Dominican chick he liked and asked me if I'd proposition her for him because he knew if he asked she'd say no, but maybe if I asked it'd be different. So, I approached this girl and asked if she'd take 2,000 pesos. She looked at me and said it was a little low but it was also late in the night. She smiled and said yes. Then, I said it's not for me but my friend over there. The smile disappeared from her face and she turned around and said no. Think of it this way, if you were a gigolo and were approached by a seventy-year-old woman and another time approached by a twenty-year-old woman, who are you giving better service to? You might go through the motions with both, but you'll enjoy the younger one better (at least I hope you would). It's the same with these chicks. They're human too, not robots.

So it's just like the US basically?

I was under the expectation that the women in these international countries treat american tourists better, because they want the tourists to keep coming back.

The girls of sosua just treat the town like a place they can go to for a day to suck some money out of, and then go back home and shit in the neighborhood they're from as well. It's not like they show up to sosua and treat it well because it's a good opporunity. Nope, they just show up, take advantage, shit in the town, do a bunch of bullshit in the town, and then leave. Sad.

Also in terms of vetting the girls, that won't be enough to consistently get good service. It'll always be a coinflip. Because girls can just straight up lie during the vetting process. Just this trip, the second girl I saw literally just straight up lied to me over text. Lied by omission because she agreed to pricing and things I mentioned through text, saying "okay", but then when we meet up, she starts throwing a fuss. So vetting doesn't protect you, girls will just lie to continue things. Also, if you can't speak the language fluently, they will always try to take advantage of the misunderstanding gap. I remember the first dumb be! Tch I met with on this trip. I knew she was understanding what I said towards the end of our session, I wanted to cut it at 1 round instead of 2 and pay her less because her service as bad, but she kept pretending that she didn't understand. So I just kept bringing it up. It's all just bullshit manipulation tactics that they use to strong arm things forward and to get money or to make things happen. Man it's annoying, I don't even want to think about my experiences anymore, the level of greed and taking advantage by these chicks truly is annoying. Fuck coming back here man, I don't have time for that. The girls in the US already do that enough, I don't need to go to another country for that same shit.

I think that YMMV in this hobby, one thing I can say rushes service and up charging can ruined the mood for any seasoned veteran and that type of shit happens virtually almost anywhere in the world. To be honest the one country I've been to where I felt insulted by a woman trying to up charge me on service was Papua New Guinea a country almost no one has heard of. In Latin America up charging seems to be the norm right along with over charging too. I've reported extensively on shitty service with a so called Big Dick Tax in Kenya and upon my last visit I deduced that the females ruined their on bread and butter. And unfortunately greediness isn't limited to just Africa some guys need to try going to Amsterdam and they'll find out the hard way that after getting in the room with a average looking hooker, she actually wants 500+ Euros for rushed services.

Upcharging and overcharging happens everywhere. I didn't realize this before because I basically had zero international mongering experience. But in various countries, I've dealt with the same shit. Wh0 res in montreal, wh0 res in Canada, wh0 res in the DR, wh0 res back in the states. It's all the same bullshit. Really the behavior of upcharging, whining, and being bitchy, is simply a universal trait amongst all women.

The only way to get around it is to do it the old fashioned way. Straight up just volume, grinding, and screening. Meet them on dating apps or sugar dating apps. Talk to them, interview them, vet them. And even then they may still pull some bullshit. But that's the only way I can see it working, because paying for bitches in cheaper countries is not a shortcut. If anything, you can pay them but you still have to go through the bullshit of vetting them and kicking them out if they're bad quality or have bad behavior, which most will have.

You seem to be dividing the world into two parts.

The US.

Not the US.

The world is a bigger place than this, and some of us even love traveling for the sake of travel. Beyond mongering, to discover other places and enjoy new experiences.

Sosua is a small place with limited number of sex workers, and it's been fucked for good by weekend warriors who throw money around to prove their masculinity.

Still, as much as I hate all those lazy, greedy, leche papi types, I normally manage to find a couple of decent girls during my short visits. Nothing spectacular, but it's a 3-hour flight.

You've been given a few tips by now. Try places other than Sosua. Or try Sosua during the high season. Instead, you're making an assumption that mongering outside the US sucks in general.

To each their own, but this board wouldn't exist if that were true.

The lazy, greedy, leche papi types make up 80% of the girls in sosua.

To me, it's no different than dealing with girls in the US that I would chat and meet off sugar sites.

You still have to grind through girls, screen them, vet them, etc. Dudes that are getting good service outside of the US are putting in time that they would have to put in anyway if they wanted to get any girl. The implication that you can just show up to a poor country, front some cash, and then shortly after be able to enjoy good service, is a false premise.

Which is funny to me because I can think of many times where I would go into a restaurant and the women waiters there I could tell with 100% certainity that they're speaking with me and smiling at me with such warmth, as if they are ready to start giving me a very pleasant two hand massage for my penis, and continue to smile as they are doing it and as I bust a very happy nut.

But for some reason, in the sex trade economy, this level of service and consistency doesn't translate over. In fact, the service is significantly worst, it goes in the complete opposite direction. Just bad service. Maybe other mongers just shit up the sex industry permanently, or the only girls that could be in this industry are just mentally damaged. I have no idea, it's out of control though.

But anyway, to sum up, every be! Tch you talk to will need to go through the same vetting process, no matter where you are. Most girls will fail the vetting because they are annoying, greedy, have problems, etc. Few girls will pass the vetting because they're just better quality, and you'll be able to actually get the good level of service that you want.

And honestly, there really is no point to sleep with a woman if the service won't be great. So sex by itself isn't the goal.

The goal is quality service (at least for me), which can only be delivered by certain women. Which is why screening will always be a cornerstone.

What opinions and experiences do is give us a window of what to expect GENERALLY from a destination or from it's participants. We tend to focus more on what is negative, and / or common to most destinations. What they don't do is breakdown individual experiences where one has a great experience at a destination. An experience that may make many individuals question whether they gave a destination it's proper assessment & just due?

Like two guys visiting Sosua at different times. One guy has a lousy time full of drama. And another guy has a great time with great memories. Whose assessment of Sosua is the correct one to go by? It's subjective. Plus in each mans case certain variables were in place to help each make a decision about that place.

Here's an example. In early January 2019 I visited Angeles City in the Philippines. On the 21st of January I met a beautiful Filipina passing by the restaurant that I was at. When I saw her passing, I hustled down the street to catch up to her. This Filipina had a nice body and a pretty face. She looked a lot like a Dominican woman. We got together later that night. Ate dinner, then we went to my hotel. This chick was insatiable in the bedroom. Had me going for hours.

I had her come over a few more times, and at the end of the month we ended up traveling to Subic Bay for the weekend. I knew she was a working girl. But it just so happened that I met her at the right time. She became my road dog. We hung together, shopped together. She cooked and kept my place clean. She would come by my apartment and stay for two days, and then leave to be with her two kids.

Now anyone can make an assessment about what is supposed to happen when trying to connect with most Filipinas, and how the women are in the Pay for Play arena. How the Filipinas are small, no assess, small tits etc. But that trip in 2019 showed me something. That I could find a decent working girl and still have a great time. This also applies to me visiting Thailand, cities in Africa, or any other destination in the world. Different trips may yield different results. One's positive experience may override the opinions and experiences of others who have a general outlook about a destination.

I mean that's great, my point is that out of 20 women, maybe 2-3 of those women would be at that level and quality that you described. The other 17-18 will be leche papi bullshit.

Those odds are definitely not worth me stepping foot out of the states, getting on a plane, setting aside time, etc, and all the other bullshit that comes with it.

[IronQuinn]

I think that YMMV in this hobby, one thing I can say rushes service and up charging can ruined the mood for any seasoned veteran and that type of shit happens virtually almost anywhere in the world. To be honest the one country I've been to where I felt insulted by a woman trying to up charge me on service was Papua New Guinea a country almost no one has heard of. In Latin America up charging seems to be the norm right along with over charging too. I've reported extensively on shitty service with a so called Big Dick Tax in Kenya and upon my last visit I deduced that the females ruined their on bread and butter. And unfortunately greediness isn't limited to just Africa some guys need to try going to Amsterdam and they'll find out the hard way that after getting in the room with a average looking hooker, she actually wants 500+ Euros for rushed services.

It's true YMMV depending on your looks, and how you act. But, up charging is really a lack of vetting on the guy's part. You have to read the girl before bringing her back. It's not a hundred percent, but helps significantly to be a good judge of character. And, a big dick tax is bullshit. It's an excuse. I have a BWC and my experience has been the opposite. The girls I've been with enjoy it, and that includes Kenya and Papua New Guinea. By the way, if you're in PNG, forget Port Moresby and go to the highlands around Mount Hagen. The girls are much more laid back. Only once did I have a girl not like it and that was in shitty Tijuana. She just said no and walked out. But, one thing that affects the interaction is skin color. For example, those Sub-Saharan girls love a white face and I get a lot of messages when I'm on Badoo before a trip.

In Sosua that doesn't matter as much. Those girls are coming in for one reason and if you've got the cash you're good to go. But, looks and how you act does make a difference on service. That's just human nature. For example, three years ago I was in the small casino near Playa Sosua with a Haitian friend I had met on a previous trip. He saw a Dominican chick he liked and asked me if I'd proposition her for him because he knew if he asked she'd say no, but maybe if I asked it'd be different. So, I approached this girl and asked if she'd take 2,000 pesos. She looked at me and said it was a little low but it was also late in the night. She smiled and said yes. Then, I said it's not for me but my friend over there. The smile disappeared from her face and she turned around and said no. Think of it this way, if you were a gigolo and were approached by a seventy-year-old woman and another time approached by a twenty-year-old woman, who are you giving better service to? You might go through the motions with both, but you'll enjoy the younger one better (at least I hope you would). It's the same with these chicks. They're human too, not robots.

[MwenByen]

I think that YMMV in this hobby, one thing I can say rushes service and up charging can ruined the mood for any seasoned veteran and that type of shit happens virtually almost anywhere in the world. To be honest the one country I've been to where I felt insulted by a woman trying to up charge me on service was Papua New Guinea a country almost no one has heard of. In Latin America up charging seems to be the norm right along with over charging too. I've reported extensively on shitty service with a so called Big Dick Tax in Kenya and upon my last visit I deduced that the females ruined their on bread and butter. And unfortunately greediness isn't limited to just Africa some guys need to try going to Amsterdam and they'll find out the hard way that after getting in the room with a average looking hooker, she actually wants 500+ Euros for rushed services.

You seem to be dividing the world into two parts.

The US.

Not the US.

The world is a bigger place than this, and some of us even love traveling for the sake of travel. Beyond mongering, to discover other places and enjoy new experiences.

Sosua is a small place with limited number of sex workers, and it's been fucked for good by weekend warriors who throw money around to prove their masculinity.

Still, as much as I hate all those lazy, greedy, leche papi types, I normally manage to find a couple of decent girls during my short visits. Nothing spectacular, but it's a 3-hour flight.

You've been given a few tips by now. Try places other than Sosua. Or try Sosua during the high season. Instead, you're making an assumption that mongering outside the US sucks in general.

To each their own, but this board wouldn't exist if that were true.

[Xpartan]

Yeah, for some reason May is completely dead in Sosua. So it depends on what time of year you go. If you're willing to do the work of screening women and taking losses through trial and error of finding the right girls, then Sosua is fine.

My issue is that I already do that in the US. I thought if I went international the amount of work basically gets cut in half because the girls here would be significantly different. But nope, same behavior as women in the US. Just a bunch more women here that are willing to have sex on day 1, and a lot more hotter girls. So if one wants to scale up the amount of work they would normally do to get laid in the US, I suppose they can go international. For me, I'm not really interested in scaling up how much work I do LOL. It's either the amount of work gets cut significantly and I can scale it up, or it's a no go for me.

That's surprising to me because in Tijuana's HK, which is the main strip club to go and meet the girls for fucking, the girls are significantly more stricter about timing of sessions. Also, you're required to pay them up front before the session begins, whereas in Sosua, this isn't required. Sosua still sucks in terms of service, but Tijuana is definitely more militant and business-like.

I think I'm done with international for now. All these places seem cool but for me personally, if I'm not getting a consistent and radically different experience with the girls there, it's just not worth it to me, compared to me just hunting in the US. If the girls have great asses, that's great and it's important, but if the quality of service isn't there, then I don't care if I'm surrounded by 100 girls who look like 10's with perfect asses. Behavior and quality service is foundational for me.

You seem to be dividing the world into two parts.

The US.

Not the US.

The world is a bigger place than this, and some of us even love traveling for the sake of travel. Beyond mongering, to discover other places and enjoy new experiences.

Sosua is a small place with limited number of sex workers, and it's been fucked for good by weekend warriors who throw money around to prove their masculinity.

Still, as much as I hate all those lazy, greedy, leche papi types, I normally manage to find a couple of decent girls during my short visits. Nothing spectacular, but it's a 3-hour flight.

You've been given a few tips by now. Try places other than Sosua. Or try Sosua during the high season. Instead, you're making an assumption that mongering outside the US sucks in general.

To each their own, but this board wouldn't exist if that were true.

[Wrx2005]

What opinions and experiences do is give us a window of what to expect GENERALLY from a destination or from it's participants. We tend to focus more on what is negative, and / or common to most destinations. What they don't do is breakdown individual experiences where one has a great experience at a destination. An experience that may make many individuals question whether they gave a destination it's proper assessment & just due?

Like two guys visiting Sosua at different times. One guy has a lousy time full of drama. And another guy has a great time with great memories. Whose assessment of Sosua is the correct one to go by? It's subjective. Plus in each mans case certain variables were in place to help each make a decision about that place.

Here's an example. In early January 2019 I visited Angeles City in the Philippines. On the 21st of January I met a beautiful Filipina passing by the restaurant that I was at. When I saw her passing, I hustled down the street to catch up to her. This Filipina had a nice body and a pretty face. She looked a lot like a Dominican woman. We got together later that night. Ate dinner, then we went to my hotel. This chick was insatiable in the bedroom. Had me going for hours.

I had her come over a few more times, and at the end of the month we ended up traveling to Subic Bay for the weekend. I knew she was a working girl. But it just so happened that I met her at the right time. She became my road dog. We hung together, shopped together. She cooked and kept my place clean. She would come by my apartment and stay for two days, and then leave to be with her two kids.

Now anyone can make an assessment about what is supposed to happen when trying to connect with most Filipinas, and how the women are in the Pay for Play arena. How the Filipinas are small, no assess, small tits etc. But that trip in 2019 showed me something. That I could find a decent working girl and still have a great time. This also applies to me visiting Thailand, cities in Africa, or any other destination in the world. Different trips may yield different results. One's positive experience may override the opinions and experiences of others who have a general outlook about a destination.

[TerOnlyOnce]

Like any where else Sosua does have high and low seasons, heard its lean season for few months starting April combined with all the street restrictions made it worse for you. When you talk about pricing it all comes down to supply and demand and of course timing. I would also keep the P4 P game on besides solely relying on online chicas. I was there not too long ago and was able to tick most of my check boxes, personally not done with Sosua yet planning to head back during the fall months.

Yeah, for some reason May is completely dead in Sosua. So it depends on what time of year you go. If you're willing to do the work of screening women and taking losses through trial and error of finding the right girls, then Sosua is fine.

My issue is that I already do that in the US. I thought if I went international the amount of work basically gets cut in half because the girls here would be significantly different. But nope, same behavior as women in the US. Just a bunch more women here that are willing to have sex on day 1, and a lot more hotter girls. So if one wants to scale up the amount of work they would normally do to get laid in the US, I suppose they can go international. For me, I'm not really interested in scaling up how much work I do LOL. It's either the amount of work gets cut significantly and I can scale it up, or it's a no go for me.

I got better service in Tijuana than Sosua.

Same and I have only been to Tijuana once, and Sosua a handful of times. Actually going back to Tijuana next month to see how it is.

That's surprising to me because in Tijuana's HK, which is the main strip club to go and meet the girls for fucking, the girls are significantly more stricter about timing of sessions. Also, you're required to pay them up front before the session begins, whereas in Sosua, this isn't required. Sosua still sucks in terms of service, but Tijuana is definitely more militant and business-like.

Everyone has their preference. Yours happens to be huge asses, a good attitude, and a reasonable price. To break this down of the major monger locations, you can skip Asia completely. The mainland girls have a good attitude and reasonable to moderate prices, but trying to find an Asian chick with a solid ass is like finding a pig that flies. Although, if you want to try tiny girls with big tits, Indonesia has a multitude. That's just fun, and the bars in Kota Indah have great prices. Europe and Canada are a step up, but the asses will be hit and miss because these are primarily Caucasian countries. And, any time you step outside the tropics you run into that evil plague called Feminism and the attitude to go with it. Central American girls have short box-like builds, it won't be your thing. And, Tijuana just outright sucks. I remember laughing on the street because there was nothing good anywhere.

The best bet for what you like are the following destinations. Sub-Saharan Africa checks all three boxes. South Africa has the biggest asses anywhere you'll find the most Steatopygia there, but you have to get them under 25 yrs because the rest of their bodies balloon up past that. West Africa has the best (imo), slender waist, big and firm upright asses. And they're a lot darker than the SA girls. Just keep in mind traveling to and within Africa has its own hurdles outside of mongering that I won't get into in this post. Brazil is another good option with multiple places you can go. Just keep in mind it's a trek and is more expensive. Plus, there's a huge emphasis on image there, so a lot of plastic and PEDs in theses girls (but many naturals can be found). And if you don't mind those ridiculous tan lines and the fact they speak Portuguese, maybe you'll like it. Colombia is a good honorable mention with multiple locations in the country as well..

I think I'm done with international for now. All these places seem cool but for me personally, if I'm not getting a consistent and radically different experience with the girls there, it's just not worth it to me, compared to me just hunting in the US. If the girls have great asses, that's great and it's important, but if the quality of service isn't there, then I don't care if I'm surrounded by 100 girls who look like 10's with perfect asses. Behavior and quality service is foundational for me. If I can't get that, doesn't matter if she's hot. I would rather just not get laid, and go jerk off. Or continue grinding as much as I need to until I find a girl who meets my minimum looks requirements, and provides that grade A service that I'm looking for.

Also, you mentioned "feminist attitudes", I'm starting to think that the female fuckery (for lack of a better term) you would experience in the US, is the same in every other country.

By female fuckery, I mean: not being concerned with delivering a good service, primarily interested in extracting as much value as possible while giving an amount that isn't equal. Basically only wanting to engage in interactions with men that are obviously tilted towards their favor. Not interactions that are generally fair and make sense in terms of the value that they're getting, versus what they are giving back to the guy.

I don't think this is a US problem, I think it applies to women around the world not matter the country, and is just built into the game.

If that is the truth, then going international to meet women means all you're doing is literally just scaling up the amount of work you would normally do if you were hunting for women in the US. Because internationally, there are far more women throwing themselves at you.

You still have to screen them though, and cut out the ones that won't be good, like you would in the US.

To give another example to illustrate what I mean, let's say 80% of women in the US are annoying and not date-able, by going international I thought that this 80% would drop down to 30-40%.

So when you land in these countries, you would notice immediately how much easier and more refreshing it is to sort through women quickly, get laid, and have a quality experience at a fair market rate.

This is not the case though. The 80% number still stays the same, whether you're in the US or Thailand, or anywhere else.

Now, I can't make this assertion for every city in the world. But I do know that for Sosua and Tijuana, this is 100% the case. Without a doubt, I'm sure of it. I'm just extrapolating out my limited experience to other international cities. And Sosua isn't small fry. It's a major sex tourism hub in the world.

[GringoLoko]

I got better service in Tijuana than Sosua.

Same and I have only been to Tijuana once, and Sosua a handful of times. Actually going back to Tijuana next month to see how it is.

[IronQuinn]

Correct, I have never been to those locations.

My experience internationally is in Tijuana Mexico, Sosua, and Montreal Canada. I did fuck a Colombian girl in Boston one time though. Met her on a sugar dating site, I could tell she was a foreigner because of her accent and minimal English.

Again everything I've written is just my opinion and extrapolations.

If you can give me a counter argument as to why I would be wrong, I'd be willing to hear it out.

Everyone has their preference. Yours happens to be huge asses, a good attitude, and a reasonable price. To break this down of the major monger locations, you can skip Asia completely. The mainland girls have a good attitude and reasonable to moderate prices, but trying to find an Asian chick with a solid ass is like finding a pig that flies. Although, if you want to try tiny girls with big tits, Indonesia has a multitude. That's just fun, and the bars in Kota Indah have great prices. Europe and Canada are a step up, but the asses will be hit and miss because these are primarily Caucasian countries. And, any time you step outside the tropics you run into that evil plague called Feminism and the attitude to go with it. Central American girls have short box-like builds, it won't be your thing. And, Tijuana just outright sucks. I remember laughing on the street because there was nothing good anywhere.

The best bet for what you like are the following destinations. Sub-Saharan Africa checks all three boxes. South Africa has the biggest asses anywhere you'll find the most Steatopygia there, but you have to get them under 25 yrs because the rest of their bodies balloon up past that. West Africa has the best (imo), slender waist, big and firm upright asses. And they're a lot darker than the SA girls. Just keep in mind traveling to and within Africa has its own hurdles outside of mongering that I won't get into in this post. Brazil is another good option with multiple places you can go. Just keep in mind it's a trek and is more expensive. Plus, there's a huge emphasis on image there, so a lot of plastic and PEDs in theses girls (but many naturals can be found). And if you don't mind those ridiculous tan lines and the fact they speak Portuguese, maybe you'll like it. Colombia is a good honorable mention with multiple locations in the country as well.

Even after traveling all over the world, I still love Sosua and I think you shouldn't write it off. The Haitian girls check all three boxes if your approach and attitude is good. You can have that West African body without crossing an ocean or taking malaria pills. Plus, it's a nice little relaxed beach town with friendly locals. You won't find that in a city. With each trip you learn what to do and not to do. But, if you're set on closing that door, try one of the other locations I mentioned. Just remember to do your research. That can make or break a trip.